Why Turkey is Cosying Up to Saudi Arabia

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Last week, Turkey's President Erdogan toured the Middle East, signing investment deals, while also gifting the leaders Turkey's first electric car. These recent moves come as a part of a diplomatic reset between Turkey and the Gulf states; so, in this video, we're going to take a look at the history of Turkish relations with the Gulf states, why Erdogan has U-turned, and what this means for the region.
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1 - www.bbc.com/news/world-africa...
2 - www.cfr.org/in-brief/why-turk...
3 - www.economist.com/middle-east...
4 - www.cfr.org/in-brief/why-turk...
5 - www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7...
00:00 - Introduction
01:08 - Why Turkey Fell Out with the Middle East in the First Place
04:35 - Erdogan's Pivot
08:35 - Sponsored Content

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@Moemuntz
@Moemuntz 11 ай бұрын
TLDR really struggles with Middle East basics. Would you consider getting a regional expert? They got recent events almost ok, but some basic facts make you shake your head. I don’t see bias but misunderstood connections or names, but the format is great. That I really appreciate. It simplifies the complicated issues for the viewer.Anyway good effort.
@user-op8fg3ny3j
@user-op8fg3ny3j 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, they don't seem to be well versed in ME politics: khawariji Vs madhkali
@antoniogrljevic3733
@antoniogrljevic3733 11 ай бұрын
TLDR are mediocre across all topics they cover. I always get interested when reading a title but I almost never get any new insight and sometimes things are so oversimplified that they cross into factual non truth. They might be good for people who don't get their news from anywhere else but would like to kinda stay in the loop.
@banto1
@banto1 11 ай бұрын
You have to remember that their target audience is the TLDR millennials and younger. TLDR doesn't have to be correct or smart, since no one in their target audience would know the difference anyway.
@CoyotesOwn
@CoyotesOwn 11 ай бұрын
I'm a bit confused. As far as I know, the Muslim Brotherhood did "really emerge" in the after of the Arab Spring. Re-emerge yes, but its organization dates back to 1925, and while being deemed illegal by Nasser and later combated by Mubarak, it continued operations as an underground organization. As I understand it springs up post-revolution but rather ceased being illegal after the fall of Mubarak;'s regime.
@jesseberg3271
@jesseberg3271 11 ай бұрын
That's true, but it is also long enough that it risks receiving a TLDR itself. They're oversimplifying to avoid losing people's interest.
@Moemuntz
@Moemuntz 11 ай бұрын
Also almost no Muslim brotherhood in Syria. It’s so small, so insignificant Turkey chose to work with bigger groups/parties. Not sure where TLDR got that from.
@ArabianQuirkSA
@ArabianQuirkSA 11 ай бұрын
The Muslim brotherhood is an evil kaffir organization
@edwardclayton556
@edwardclayton556 11 ай бұрын
The Muslim brotherhood of Egypt is not considered a gulf state, but a North African state.
@nasseralzeer9935
@nasseralzeer9935 11 ай бұрын
The Brotherhood, just like Al Qaeda and Houthis, are legitimate and illegitimate, according to the interests of America. When Bush fought terrorism after 9/11, he classified the Brotherhood as terrorists, and when Obama wanted to overthrow Arab regimes, he sought the help of the Brotherhood. As well as Houthi, when Trump wanted to put sanctions on Iran, he classified them as terrorists, but when Biden came and wanted a nuclear deal, he turned a blind eye to the Houthis. Also al-Qaeda in the past, the US media used to describe them as heroes and the White House host them to overthrow the Soviet Union. Once the Soviets were overthrown, the US sold them, which made al-Qaeda due to the unfortunate 9/11 attacks. As usual, the US made another country in the world bear its mistakes, and this country was Saudi Arabia to blackmail it to get cheap oil.
@rendezyt
@rendezyt 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't consider it ditching; Turkiye just needs money. Erdogan went to Saudi Arabia, UAE for investment deals and to sell military gear
@Daisy_3011
@Daisy_3011 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't even consider that there's anything to ditch. Did Erdogan and putin sign some pact? They're just far more autonomous to be able to do their own thing than most NATO and EU members because of their location.
@rendezyt
@rendezyt 11 ай бұрын
@@Daisy_3011 No they didn't sign any sort of pact; the relations Turkiye and Russia have are just of convenience like you said due to location (so they coordinate in Syria for example) and they have some trade but I wouldn't call them allies. Historically they never got along too so as you said there is nothing to ditch
@skp8748
@skp8748 11 ай бұрын
​@@rendezytLOL they're fighting in Libya, Turkey arms Ukraine, Turkey helped destroy Russias military ally Armenia and Turkey has actively been against russian ally Assad.
@nasseralzeer9935
@nasseralzeer9935 11 ай бұрын
Erdogan turned into a car dealer. I think it will become his job in the Gulf when he retires. Ottoman Sultan Auto Workshop, what a catchy name
@rendezyt
@rendezyt 11 ай бұрын
@@nasseralzeer9935 Lol, the Gulf version of a Snakeoil Salesman.
@tvgerbil1984
@tvgerbil1984 11 ай бұрын
Russia is a bit tight in finance at the moment. The Saudis on the other hand are always loaded. There is really no contest from Erdogan's point of view.
@antr7493
@antr7493 11 ай бұрын
a special financial OPERATION IS NEEDED
@Movingforward2000
@Movingforward2000 11 ай бұрын
Why would anyone help Turkey for?
@Bolognabeef
@Bolognabeef 11 ай бұрын
@@Movingforward2000 I think uniquely for their strategic geography and huge population
@johnnywires943
@johnnywires943 11 ай бұрын
@@Bolognabeef Even if it is a shit state?
@evanwang5777
@evanwang5777 11 ай бұрын
@@johnnywires943 It's Middle East. Everyone's shit. Turkey is just the least shit.
@Ceyrekiletken
@Ceyrekiletken 11 ай бұрын
I don't disagree with what's presented in this video but I think it's overlooking that Turkey's position during middle east civil wars aligned with the west. In Libya and Syria, Turkey and the West supported the same groups against the incumbent governments at first. It's just that western powers dropped their support eventually or lost interest for whatever reason. For example, providing armament to the Syrian opposition wasn't directly a Turkish initiative, it was part of the US operation Timber Sycamore. Turkey followed it. Similarly in Libya Government of National Accord was the UN backed government. What I'm getting at is that not providing this background makes it sound like Turkey's bad relations in the middle east were exclusively their bad decisions. They did and still do support some weird factions but they weren't completely alone in supporting some of these groups at the beginning when their relations with the other gulf countries deteriorated the most. I guess the exception is the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, I may be mistaken but no one supported them except Turkey.
@skp8748
@skp8748 11 ай бұрын
Yep all right in fact West supported the coup against Morsi
@potato_nugget
@potato_nugget 11 ай бұрын
Your comment is entirely on the assumption that West = good. The video didn't present it as bad, just that they were opposing, and you saying "Turkey aligned with the west" isn't any argument for it being good.
@Ceyrekiletken
@Ceyrekiletken 11 ай бұрын
@@potato_nugget I am not really trying to make anyone look good or bad, I'm just saying that the video makes it sound like Turkey was the only country that supported uprisings against the incumbent governments. They weren't the only country, they followed what most of the western country did at the time. Conclude what you will from that.
@Shambles7698
@Shambles7698 11 ай бұрын
Arab country and turkey never see Russia as close friend just mutual interest. maybe only Russia think it's
@VIVIHESS
@VIVIHESS 11 ай бұрын
Does Russia sees them as a friend ? No.
@GuineaPigEveryday
@GuineaPigEveryday 11 ай бұрын
Russia has never worked in the interest of the Middle east, especially historically they’ve only wanted it for themselves, specifically Turkey, but Iran-Russia have rarely ever been friendly in the past. Putin is functioning on the basis of fellow authoritarian comradeship, but thats it
@tomlxyz
@tomlxyz 11 ай бұрын
Arab countries and turkey also aren't friends
@rushyscoper1651
@rushyscoper1651 11 ай бұрын
@@tomlxyz not true i know a lot of people who like turkey more then KSA, it depend what Islamic sect they follow and political ideals. my friend is erdogan supporter while i dislike him
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 11 ай бұрын
At least the Soviet Union has communism to connect with nations ideologically. Putin's ideology of Russian ethnic supremacy doesn't resonate with anyone other than Russian fascists.
@maddogbasil
@maddogbasil 11 ай бұрын
*first erdogan is going back to west....then back to east* Bruh why does everybody somehow think erdogan isnt gonna just do what he wants Their are no U TURNS in poltics Its just poltics
@Bunnyroo7
@Bunnyroo7 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely nobody trusts or relies on Erdogan. They cut short-term deals with him, make it work and then move on.
@RCSVirginia
@RCSVirginia 11 ай бұрын
"One has no rules Is not precise One rarely acts The same way twice One spurns no device Politics-the art of the possible." From "Evita"
@Free_Muslim_Unlike_Slaves
@Free_Muslim_Unlike_Slaves 11 ай бұрын
@@polok1231 because no one on its side
@zahat79
@zahat79 11 ай бұрын
Brother Erdogan sometimes move west(eu), sometimes east(Russia) and sometimes south (middle east).
@DoofyGilmore1299
@DoofyGilmore1299 11 ай бұрын
when it comes to politics we dont have allies or friends (Azerbaijan is not included they are our brother country) we have political interests
@mohammed44_
@mohammed44_ 2 ай бұрын
1-russia on turkey's north, not east 2-turkey is middle eastern state
@felixb6
@felixb6 11 ай бұрын
Jack should change his glasses
@Bobogdan258
@Bobogdan258 11 ай бұрын
1:44 Egypt is missing the Sinai Peninsula
@Bolognabeef
@Bolognabeef 11 ай бұрын
It must be Israel, old habits die hard.
@Bobogdan258
@Bobogdan258 11 ай бұрын
@@Bolognabeef What do you mean by that?
@SRAMLiraium
@SRAMLiraium 11 ай бұрын
​​@@BolognabeefİSREAL İS DEATH DURİNG KİPPUR WAR..
@Iamwolf134
@Iamwolf134 11 ай бұрын
This series of moves from Erdogan could very likely be an attempt at self-preservation.
@skp8748
@skp8748 11 ай бұрын
😂 no.
@kth6736
@kth6736 11 ай бұрын
Thankyou captain obvious. Great insights. 😂😂
@notastone4832
@notastone4832 11 ай бұрын
fun fact: saudi and russia are both members of OPEC+ and get along just fine..
@Rjsjrjsjrjsj
@Rjsjrjsjrjsj 11 ай бұрын
Fun fact, that's absolute bull💩. Saudi has made a move on several occasions to cripple Russia s oil sales. Do your homework. 🙄
@KanLuxiang
@KanLuxiang 11 ай бұрын
Neither of these countries are friends. They are partners of convenience. They will work together when beneficial and backstab each other when beneficial.
@FNA27601
@FNA27601 3 ай бұрын
​@KanLuxiang ehh neither would backstab one another over fear of the others retaliation which could hurt them. Russia and saudi are basically stuck with one another and that's why they have to maintain relations, cooperation and balance with one another.
@ezaxis
@ezaxis 11 ай бұрын
Are we not going to talk about whatever is going on with Jack's hair? Is he working on a pony tail?
@CaptainBaseball
@CaptainBaseball 11 ай бұрын
You see the turkish electrical car brand TOGG in the video at 08:20 when Bin Zayed is driving and Erdogan sitting next to him. Erdogan gave Saudi Arabia, Qatar and UAE the electrical SUV car TOGG T10X. Also Saudi Arabia and UAE made a huge deal to buy turkish combat drones by Bayraktar. The complete deal with UAE is over 50 billion dollars. Turkish Construction companies will have share in building the advanced modern city NEOM in Saudia Arabia and other parts of the kingdom like Jeddah. The construction sector is growing there.
@Nawaf-qk9mu
@Nawaf-qk9mu 11 ай бұрын
That was actually Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman driving.
@CaptainBaseball
@CaptainBaseball 11 ай бұрын
@@Nawaf-qk9mu At the beginning yes. But then you see in the back mirror of the car the UAE leader Mohammed Bin Zayed
@markdowding5737
@markdowding5737 11 ай бұрын
I still remember the video that you guys made with the title "How Turkey Ran Out of Friends and Money". They still have no money but now everybody, from the EU, Russia, and the Gulf States, is trying to be friends with them. This only proves there is no such thing as friends in geopolitics, and countries will ally with whoever suits their interests, regardless of ideology.
@The_Midnight_Bear
@The_Midnight_Bear 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, but Russia and the Saudis arent exactly full of friends either.
@skp8748
@skp8748 11 ай бұрын
Right they're obsessed with Erdoğan
@skp8748
@skp8748 11 ай бұрын
​@@The_Midnight_Bear😂 Saudi has more friends than the UK
@The_Midnight_Bear
@The_Midnight_Bear 11 ай бұрын
@@skp8748 More like clients.
@skp8748
@skp8748 11 ай бұрын
@@The_Midnight_Bear same thing
@MusicallyQ
@MusicallyQ 11 ай бұрын
*The Turkey-Ruzzia relationship has largely been driven by the two authoritarian leaders' personal rapport,* *but a weakened Putin becomes a less reliable partner, experts said.* *Erdogan’s Surprise Western Pivot*
@badluck5647
@badluck5647 11 ай бұрын
& Saudis have more money
@kevinu.k.7042
@kevinu.k.7042 11 ай бұрын
Not all all. He only wants to remain in power and to do that he will get into bed with the country ofering the best deals. He has no loyalty, no commitment to a moral code. Diplomatically he is but a whore.
@Jay...777
@Jay...777 11 ай бұрын
Turkey plays both sides. Look at the map. A new Russia Turkey gas pipes agreed. Most of Europe gas will have to come thro Turkey. Russia & Saudi are in strong alliance. China negotiated peace between Saudi & Iran. SCO & BRICS members soon. Turkey sees which way the wind is blowing
@WackadoodleMalarkey
@WackadoodleMalarkey 11 ай бұрын
It's just like when Hulk Hogan betrayed the NWO
@kevinu.k.7042
@kevinu.k.7042 11 ай бұрын
@@Jay...777 I agree, but they are not playing both sides they are playing ALL sides. Once you step away from the East West dialectic there are many others. For example Türkiye is competing with China to win over the 'Stans' into it's economic sphere. It has set up a Turkic development bank and quite a few Turkic countries have deposited serious money into it. At the same time it is demanding an easier route into the EU. No, Europe does not have to get gas through Turkey, the EU is shopping else where for that and were they again to get gas from Russia they would use the pipelines already in place - Check the map.
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 11 ай бұрын
The TLDR of it: "Hello, I like money." - Erdogan.
@marym7104
@marym7104 11 ай бұрын
Within 2 hours!
@hactervrut1948
@hactervrut1948 11 ай бұрын
you typed turkiye wrong
@ElliexUwU
@ElliexUwU 11 ай бұрын
yes
@kaanboztepe
@kaanboztepe 11 ай бұрын
the middle east has always been a hot mess of competing interests of the nations within the borders as well as without. Iran, Iraq , Dyria and Turkiye have all Kurdish populations that would like autonomy , similarly there are Armenian , Azerbaijani minorities are within Iran and Turkiye as well . Adding to this mess that iran wants all the middle east to become Shia under their model and preferably under their religious rule so they work with Shia leaders such as Esad and against all others via various groups ( usually designated terrorists in middle east nations ) . of course Saudi Arabia has a problem with the USA now energy independent and no longer interested in defending them or selling weapons to them and even starting to criticize their human rights records. which leads them to search for a new source of weapons and possibly a new nation to defend them in case of attack ( most likely from Iran ). that all leads that every nation is ally with some and against some others on some issues and against each other on others. Economic problems of Turkiye cause them to change direction every decade in their search for investors doesnt help stability either.
@user-op8fg3ny3j
@user-op8fg3ny3j 11 ай бұрын
It's far more complex than Sunni v Shia. I'd argue most of the friction is between competing Sunni groups like khawarijism Vs madhkalism
@thepax2621
@thepax2621 11 ай бұрын
Saudi Arabia enables Russia to make more money out of oil exports, so... ditching one for the other is silly to begin with
@HShango
@HShango 11 ай бұрын
So true, that slipped my mind.
@Suksass
@Suksass 11 ай бұрын
Saudi Arabia is being screwed by Russia after the later broke agreement on oil sale. Saudis keep trying to increase the price per barrel while Russia keeps trying to lower it.
@matpk
@matpk 11 ай бұрын
TLDR is a primary school project
@ashisalrtaken
@ashisalrtaken 11 ай бұрын
Shut up none of you mentioning Russia even know what you are blabbering on about 😂😂😂😂
@rushyscoper1651
@rushyscoper1651 11 ай бұрын
saudi arabia isn't following russia anymore, the new boss in the area is china which both iran and saudi arabia following. don't know why turkey isn't tho yet
@theconqueringram5295
@theconqueringram5295 11 ай бұрын
We should keep an eye on this indeed.
@emptyhad2571
@emptyhad2571 11 ай бұрын
I miss the days when the KZfaq comments use to be much nicer and more civil.
@user-he8ws1wy6r
@user-he8ws1wy6r 11 ай бұрын
1:41 where's the sinai peninsula?
@hjalmarfreidenvall1655
@hjalmarfreidenvall1655 11 ай бұрын
Neat
@Tyronius_Maximus
@Tyronius_Maximus 11 ай бұрын
1:28 Its not like Saudi Arabia is anti-islamist, they just support different types of Islamists for different reasons. In Syria the Saudis supported Salafi Jihadist type factions while loathing the mainly non-Salafi Muslim Brotherhood. Funnily enough Turkey aided alot of these same factions in Syria as well.
@user-wh7lb5jo7c
@user-wh7lb5jo7c 11 ай бұрын
I think the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Turkey are collaborating for mutual benefits. That's how the world should continue to focus on.
@dejanSLO84
@dejanSLO84 11 ай бұрын
what is that the 10th monthly, Russia will collapse imminently video?
@user-he8ws1wy6r
@user-he8ws1wy6r 11 ай бұрын
Peace to all the Middle East❤
@d.b.cooper1
@d.b.cooper1 11 ай бұрын
@tigran-khanabazyan Err that's quite literally why parts of it are an endless pit of doom, didn't work in Libya or Syria, royal led kingdoms & stability long as they take care of citizens with the wealth is ideal. Notion of western demoracy frankly just creates centuries long endless war & splits.
@bradleyadams4496
@bradleyadams4496 11 ай бұрын
Hard muscle. It isn't progress beyond Gilgamesh. It doesn't matter who you supported before so long as we are on the same page today. People who aren't strategizing for the future act more impulsively, this just feels right for Erdogan right now.
@thepax2621
@thepax2621 11 ай бұрын
But Saudi Arabia and Russia are buddies as well 🤷🏻‍♀️? So is that even a choice?
@xyphoon5013
@xyphoon5013 11 ай бұрын
Saudi Arabia doesn't really have enemies on the world stage, they've even moved towards friendly relations with Iran
@schneejacques3502
@schneejacques3502 11 ай бұрын
They really aren't? Saudi wants to be more independent from the US. That doesn't mean they are pro russia.
@thepax2621
@thepax2621 11 ай бұрын
@@schneejacques3502 They sure are, both want higher oil prices for different reasons, so they discovered their personal friendship in trying to f*ck over the west
@giantWario
@giantWario 11 ай бұрын
@@schneejacques3502 It's more than that dude, the only reason why oil prices rose after the war in Ukraine even is that, when Russia became unable to export as much oil, the Saudis actually followed suit and limited their oil export as well instead of taking Russia's place in the market. If the Saudis had done that, oil prices would have remained pretty much the same and the Russian economy would have crumbled. The Saudis *are* helping Russia.
@azumishimizu1880
@azumishimizu1880 11 ай бұрын
US controls Saudi. They can not be buddies with Russia.
@Happy-Mint
@Happy-Mint 11 ай бұрын
As a person living in the Gulf, there are So many factual errors in this video. A lot of orientalist views as well. This video may be considered misinformation.
@mightyrighty1
@mightyrighty1 11 ай бұрын
i love your show but having 1/4 of it being self advertising is very very annoying
@HolisticIntegral
@HolisticIntegral 11 ай бұрын
Couple of points needs elaboration and others not particularly accurate.
@CouchTomato87
@CouchTomato87 11 ай бұрын
8:16 *Quintilateral
@user-zh1js8mv9x
@user-zh1js8mv9x 4 ай бұрын
Türkiye takes decisions from Ankara, not Washington 😶‍🌫
@EngineerShaikhAbd-ul-AzizfromB
@EngineerShaikhAbd-ul-AzizfromB 11 ай бұрын
It's not Bashar al-Assad, it's Bashar al-Kalb.
@rushyscoper1651
@rushyscoper1651 11 ай бұрын
an innocent misunderstanding of the issue, its understandable because its kinda complex and only understood by people who are very invested into religion. the reason why gulf states not including qatar dislike muslims brotherhood is because their own kingdom was funded on another Islamic sec which conflict with Muslims brotherhood, basically changing the underline base might change their system which they control. this also isn't a new thing, however in the past its was gulf states against USSR social leaning state (don't know how to word but it have a name in arabic syrai, egypt, iraq) the arab is split into two form dictatorship and monarchy. Muslims brotherhood is a movement that brand itself of being modern (some social element) so when dictatorship fall apart, Muslims brotherhood where an easy replacement. monarchy survived because their base is different then dictatorship that stem from tradition and strict religion, where dictatorship base stem from history and sentiment (we need strong leader to fight west intervention in arab world), hence why when that sentiment is unstable in the arab spring most arabs didn't share that sentiment anymore and saw their leader as a bigger issue then the west at least arab living under dictatorship. so short story, turkey have its own Islamic sect which is used as influence, Iran have its own and gulf states have its own, the conflict is about those parties trying to spread that influence, which none kinda won they all just got worn out by the conflict, maybe just Egypt completely won by gulf states.
@skp8748
@skp8748 11 ай бұрын
Muslim brotherhood would be the best thing for the region.
@rushyscoper1651
@rushyscoper1651 11 ай бұрын
@@skp8748 not really, i don't think any is good for the region as long they don't get consumed with fighting other ideology instead of fixing real issues common people have then don't care what kinda of sect their follow. Arabs should became policy focused instead of ideology focus or the only change that will happen is ideology not policies.
@skp8748
@skp8748 11 ай бұрын
@@rushyscoper1651 Muslim brotherhood is not a sect. Its a non violent democratic institution that recognises people want to be led by people accountable to islamic law instead of tyrannical despots/monarchs. MB is professors, officers, Dr's ect it's the professional educated class.
@rushyscoper1651
@rushyscoper1651 11 ай бұрын
@@skp8748 like not always no violent or democratic, Muslim brotherhood differ from country to country
@gilkin6328
@gilkin6328 10 ай бұрын
The crown prince revealed an ambitious program of social and economic reform entitled "Vision 2030" and pledged to diversify the economy by offering part of the state-owned oil company Aramco to the public and encouraging new companies to reduce dependence on oil exports.
@julonkrutor4649
@julonkrutor4649 11 ай бұрын
5:17 This is skipping the history and Co.
@cageybee7221
@cageybee7221 11 ай бұрын
talk about out of the frying pan and into the fire jesus
@mazengomazengo9810
@mazengomazengo9810 11 ай бұрын
Some corrections: Saudia and Russia have common interests in many fronts including cutting oil supply and raising cost of energy! Turkey isn't in similar footing !
@raychristenson6455
@raychristenson6455 11 ай бұрын
Has Turkey improved relations with Egypt?
@napolien1310
@napolien1310 11 ай бұрын
Yes, they kicked out some anti Egypt politicians (Egyptians) took their Turkey's citizenship...etc
@petertozser6386
@petertozser6386 11 ай бұрын
I think it’s also important to mention that Turkey had a century long western orientation towards Europe since Kemal Atatürk. For decades thay’ve been waiting to be admitted to the European Union, but as there are no European prospects for Turkey and as nationalism and islamization grow, they have to look for a “B plan”. This can be some kind of regional power struggle in the Middle East and they may also play the role of a “bridge” between Asia and the West.
@thereita1052
@thereita1052 11 ай бұрын
Atatürk dream Is dead and Turkey can now be fully considered an asian power whit nato leverage. Not too different from a Kazakistan on steroids.
@user-yj7ve5zv9n
@user-yj7ve5zv9n 11 ай бұрын
I meant they would have perhaps a chance if they took a more democratic approach
@petertozser6386
@petertozser6386 11 ай бұрын
@@thereita1052 Yeah, it seems like it, unfortunately…
@rizkyadiyanto7922
@rizkyadiyanto7922 11 ай бұрын
​@@user-yj7ve5zv9nturkey is more democratic than current US administration.
@thornelderfin
@thornelderfin 11 ай бұрын
​@@user-yj7ve5zv9n I don't think that would help as they invaded Cyprus in 1974 and still hold more than third of its territory (at this point probably forever). Cyprus would veto Turkey admission to EU every single time... even democracy wouldn't help.
@banto1
@banto1 11 ай бұрын
Main reason I see is MBS is building trillion $ projects in the desert and Erdo wants to cash in on that, supplying Turkish workers & materials, to build it and then Turkish appliances and other equipment to make livable.
@d.b.cooper1
@d.b.cooper1 11 ай бұрын
Turkey doesn't have any real workers of interest to saudi, it's a middle income country with high wages. 1 vacancy will have a thousand applicants from cheaper countries in Africa or south Asia. Labour or even building resources really isn't anything to bargain over. If anything Saudi holds leverage over all these countries given how many billion $ they get in remittances from workers sending money back to India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc.
@banto1
@banto1 11 ай бұрын
@@d.b.cooper1 Construction is not unskilled labor. You need a lot of experience to do rebar work, tiling, plastering, electrical, plumbing, waterproofing, etc... in particular if you want it done to code and at high quality (i.e. fit for a king). Also, Saudi would probably prefer Muslim workers that would go back home when the work is done (i.e they have a decent place to return to).
@d.b.cooper1
@d.b.cooper1 11 ай бұрын
@@banto1 Damn I wonder how saudi & gulf nations have managed to do such work to high standard for past 3/4 decades since the 80s/90s? The biggest migrant workers mate are literally from Phillipines...you know a deeply catholic/crhistian country who are trusted not just as labourers but maids & more. Religon plays no part lol, even recruit from nepal & other non Muslim African countries. All those roles you mentioned are done by previous mentioned countries, heck even bigger roles are done by them as often they're highly educated but wages are very low. A turk would never migrate for such a small salary. This simply has nothing to do with labour & everything to do with billion $ foreign currency backing for oil imports & future strategic partnerships in miltary/alignment etc. Tourism to turkey from saudi/gulf is frankly a bigger discussion than what you said
@JohnDon-bi1iz
@JohnDon-bi1iz 11 ай бұрын
​@@d.b.cooper1I can tell you how, additional to the workers from Philippines, they got experts from the West Now they pretend like they don't need the West, only cheap workers so we will See them fail soon
@FNA27601
@FNA27601 10 ай бұрын
​@@d.b.cooper1there's a ton of turks in the gulf tho working in restaurants or as barbers tho so not sure about that one especially when the Turkish economy Keeps being berserk.
@khaledtorjman167
@khaledtorjman167 11 ай бұрын
We would love to hear more about Syria as TLDR is the only channel i trust as non biased
@gilkin6328
@gilkin6328 10 ай бұрын
The plan also calls for strengthening the presence of women in the labour force and easing Saudi hardliner social norms. "Our vision is a tolerant country, Islam is its constitution, and its moderation is moderate," he said when announcing the vision.
@a.p1675
@a.p1675 11 ай бұрын
Snake goes were the grass is high. Sells snake oil were the wind blows.
@papadavie8460
@papadavie8460 10 ай бұрын
When US president visits Japan and Australia, do you assume that he has dumped Europe?
@bledakaan
@bledakaan 9 ай бұрын
İt's officially "Türkiye" since June 2022 acording to the UN.
@guadalupefreyre5900
@guadalupefreyre5900 11 ай бұрын
0:18
@philipjohansson3949
@philipjohansson3949 11 ай бұрын
Missed pootbin oppurtunity with the thumbnail
@philipjohansson3949
@philipjohansson3949 11 ай бұрын
Ah, I see you fixed it now. Very nice!
@mardasman428
@mardasman428 11 ай бұрын
How are the Gulf monarchies "the Middle East"? You equate the two, even though the Gulf monarchies only account for less than 10% of the Middle Eastern population.
@KanLuxiang
@KanLuxiang 11 ай бұрын
I wonder where this Cattar country is that Jack keeps going on about.
@KishorPasha
@KishorPasha 11 ай бұрын
Best Euroopan propaganda channel in KZfaq. Good jobs.
@speculawyer
@speculawyer 11 ай бұрын
Because Saudi Arabia still has money. 😂
@theultimateshield5133
@theultimateshield5133 11 ай бұрын
Well I don't remember a time when they never had that😅
@norwegianzound
@norwegianzound 11 ай бұрын
STOP SHOUTING!
@jamesjross
@jamesjross 11 ай бұрын
could nobody tell you about your hair? nice work colleagues.
@wizzohizzo
@wizzohizzo 11 ай бұрын
😅😅 drawned rat 😅
@RCSVirginia
@RCSVirginia 11 ай бұрын
They saw, but they just couldn't resist.
@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500
@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 11 ай бұрын
i can't say nothin when my school photo day photos are sittin next to me
@jvb4450
@jvb4450 10 ай бұрын
Yeah Erdogan U-turns always. Cant take him seriously.
@shafsteryellow
@shafsteryellow 5 ай бұрын
It's called pragmatism
@howiescott5865
@howiescott5865 11 ай бұрын
If I were the ruler of Saudi Arabia, I'd have told Erdogan... take back the EV and give me a drone or at lease a BIG block Chevy.
@Wiki8Will
@Wiki8Will 11 ай бұрын
Well, not really any difference, a dictator with a war for no reason in Ukraine, and a dictator with a war in Yemen. Edit: Fixed a spelling error
@HShango
@HShango 11 ай бұрын
Dictator*
@blueskull1119
@blueskull1119 11 ай бұрын
What about democracies? That's at war for no reason, that's a good thing. 🤔
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 11 ай бұрын
Saudi Arabia is a strong partner with US, UAE (UK) and Israel And they all want to demolish Iran, so...
@TheSkcube
@TheSkcube 11 ай бұрын
difference is that one has the support of the US, and the other doesn't.
@artman12
@artman12 11 ай бұрын
And a dictator with a war in Syria and Libya?
@shadhinov
@shadhinov 10 ай бұрын
Saudi and Iran vying for hegemony in the middle east. Egypt and Ethiopia for nilo sahara. Brics and NATO for global. Turkey is something everywhere. Badly.
@kjamestaylor
@kjamestaylor 11 ай бұрын
"The Society of the Muslim Brothers, better known as the Muslim Brotherhood, is a transnational Sunni Islamist organization founded in Egypt by Islamic scholar and schoolteacher Hassan al-Banna in 1928".... Wikipedia. After which Arab Spring? The story of the Saudi kingdom is impossible to understand without mentioning the support and connivance of the UK US and oil cos Gulf states have more money than they know what to do with?
@haroonsamsharoonsams3016
@haroonsamsharoonsams3016 11 ай бұрын
suadi is supporting russia
@user-lz5dz1qx2q
@user-lz5dz1qx2q 11 ай бұрын
The way gulf monarchies fight democratic movements in the region looks like what happened to napoleon
@wwasv
@wwasv 11 ай бұрын
muslim brotherhood almost a century old, didn't emerge after arab spring...
@fateenshareef8716
@fateenshareef8716 11 ай бұрын
Economic reasons are the primary driver behind this pivot. With waning American interest in the region in the backdrop of Russia-Ukraine and US-China, Gulf states have plenty of incentive to use their money as investment in rival countries than using it to buy American tech. A kind of European economic co-operation is being seen here. Sustained mutual economic interest may seen these countries put their animosity in the backseat and not let it fester out openly. But how long will this last? What happnes when harder economic times come? Will the few years of common economic interest be enough to erase these animosities forever? Remains to be seen. Interesting times lie ahead.
@Nawaf-qk9mu
@Nawaf-qk9mu 11 ай бұрын
Your cultural context on Saudi and its social environment is severely lacking.
@TRDPaul
@TRDPaul 11 ай бұрын
I don't know why but you always have such a condescending tone in your ad reads
@Rehmaatesh
@Rehmaatesh 11 ай бұрын
After watching thisTLDR video i can assure , they don't have any right knowledge of ME and their timeline is very incorrect. Don't consider this video as factual.......
@larisael-netanany488
@larisael-netanany488 11 ай бұрын
Excuse me, you got a hole in your research. The Muslim Brotherhood is MUCH older than 2011 and the Arab spring.
@LGSMaratonu2024
@LGSMaratonu2024 11 ай бұрын
As a Turkish owner, I want to watch videos made by foreigners about us, please add Turkish subtitles
@sktt1488
@sktt1488 11 ай бұрын
Çok yüzeysel boş konuşuyor.. Bu "tldr" zaten özet gibi bişey.
@user-vb6df4sd8d
@user-vb6df4sd8d 11 ай бұрын
Don’t worry you are not missing out on much most of the stuff he is saying is missing a LOT of the important details
@sha29i
@sha29i 11 ай бұрын
This was cute but it misses way too many historical contexts. Gulf monarchies arent simply "really keen on stability". They were put in power by the British so lack popular legitimacy. Also muslim brotherhood wasnt born after arab spring. Its roots dates back to days of Egypt's independence from the British. Be nice if you spend some more resources on your research so you dont just mirror the superficial coverage in the media.
@stivenstivens
@stivenstivens 11 ай бұрын
Turkey needs dollars .
@andrewrogers3067
@andrewrogers3067 11 ай бұрын
While I’m not super fond of erdogan, I’m hoping that he can finally turn Turkey around for the better especially with his Allie’s. Between the U-turn on his economic policies, letting Sweden into NATO and this, I think there’s actually a chance.
@mlrk3y858
@mlrk3y858 11 ай бұрын
The Turkish Lira is so low because of this man... why do you think he can fix it?
@firefromthelord777
@firefromthelord777 11 ай бұрын
I hope he will be the reason that they will be crushed
@davidjma7226
@davidjma7226 11 ай бұрын
Turkey are pals with Iran of course. KSA has just renewed friendship with Iran. Thats why!
@Free_Muslim_Unlike_Slaves
@Free_Muslim_Unlike_Slaves 11 ай бұрын
lol turkiye is just partner with iran not ally
@user-he8ws1wy6r
@user-he8ws1wy6r 11 ай бұрын
It's not Turkey anymore, It's Turkiye now.
@gilkin6328
@gilkin6328 10 ай бұрын
This is due to the changes witnessed by the Saudi ruling house represented by the rise of a new leadership of the Saudi state with new intellectual traits Commensurate with the assumption of the mandate of the young Prince Mohammed bin Salman.
@KangaKucha
@KangaKucha 11 ай бұрын
Cancer?
@xaviermarechal1894
@xaviermarechal1894 11 ай бұрын
You should remove Bolsonaro's image from the intro. As TLDR News US seams dead, you may replace him by Biden
@hussienbintalal91
@hussienbintalal91 11 ай бұрын
Erdoğan :Friendships ended with russia❌, now Saudia is my new best friend ✔️
@datupatrick9640
@datupatrick9640 11 ай бұрын
SAUDI ARABIA RUSIA😎
@iamagi
@iamagi 11 ай бұрын
Book burning Interference by unfriendly foreign actors Islamist political movements. You guys, I know exactly who we need to talk with. -The Green Party in Sweden
@RendallRen
@RendallRen 11 ай бұрын
"Turkey ditch Putin for Saudi" English as she is spoke.
@pokemonjt
@pokemonjt 11 ай бұрын
Wow, ur usually quite right about a lot, but can’t believe how wrong u r on this, need more reading bro
@olijakob7059
@olijakob7059 11 ай бұрын
Why is Turkey always U turning about everything?
@eren3390
@eren3390 11 ай бұрын
Politics. Everyone does it.
@panosgeorgedimitriou2290
@panosgeorgedimitriou2290 11 ай бұрын
​@@eren3390nope,only turkey
@Free_Muslim_Unlike_Slaves
@Free_Muslim_Unlike_Slaves 11 ай бұрын
@@panosgeorgedimitriou2290 just because you're blind
@panosgeorgedimitriou2290
@panosgeorgedimitriou2290 11 ай бұрын
@@Free_Muslim_Unlike_Slaves nah just the fanatic Muslims..I hear your buddies turks are beating everyone who speaks Arabic inside turkey while the sultan begs them for some USA dollars..lol
@1verstapp
@1verstapp 11 ай бұрын
''i've got a garage full of solid gold rollers and you try to bribe me with a pissy little beenmer?!''
@phunk8607
@phunk8607 11 ай бұрын
Lol both a dead end alliance
@kerrighan01
@kerrighan01 11 ай бұрын
Turkey buys oil to saudi saudi buys cheap oil from russia and sell it to turkey in higher price
@yvzycl2654
@yvzycl2654 6 ай бұрын
SEN APTALMISIN....?.
@shlomoaziz411
@shlomoaziz411 11 ай бұрын
🐺🤘
@SH__-
@SH__- 11 ай бұрын
Guys I like your videos but the sponsored messages take up far too much time in all your vids. At the start and the end
@felixb6
@felixb6 11 ай бұрын
Just skip em
@SH__-
@SH__- 11 ай бұрын
@@felixb6 I think it impacts the content, especially when listening too whilst on a walk.
@phoebus86
@phoebus86 11 ай бұрын
I mean Erdogan is known to be quite of a flip flopper.
@marym7104
@marym7104 11 ай бұрын
11,023th viewer of this video!
@zj760
@zj760 10 ай бұрын
Business is business he is looking to get a job back for Turk. Move on bro
@hoteny
@hoteny 11 ай бұрын
💰
@paletwa1
@paletwa1 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like Islamophobia!
@kavvame
@kavvame 9 ай бұрын
West is acting with despotic manners in international politics and trade since the end of colonialism era especially and obviously after worldwar 1. In world trade its tools are : Enforcement of West Currencies in payments; rating companies desicions; international money transfer rules/means; The enourmous amounts of money in the Western banks; the regional wars / conflicts/embargoes started directly by West or by other means. Against all these the point reached by West is very very interesting. The west countries debts reached such levels that paybacks are far beyond their current gdp capacities. "Asset bubbles" catastrope still remains unsolved. Only the last two years printed amount only by USA 12 trillion dollars. Their economies are far away being real anymore and further can't capable to manage international economics properly. Let come to Arabs and Turks. Upon emerging the new Arab politics of West, Arabs are trying to increase relations and ties with potential countries other than West in order can be assisted in self-defense of their countries beside looking regions for investment opportunies . Among these countries also Turkiye existed who is also eager for foreign investment. Further, with its real economy and previous foreign investment successes has a potential to attract investments. Another positive point for Turkey its loyalty in handling his agreements and successes in assisting his allies in wars, conflicts and embargoes especially in last decade. There are also too many opportunities for Arabs to make partnership with Turkiye in defence investments both in their land and in Turkiye. Developing the releations will be very fruitfull for both parties even nowadays and close future. Isn't more or less many of the countries outside West keep running on same path. It is clear that any country can not rise its economy only with domestic achievements but together with proper international relations/ties/agreements.
@panosgeorgedimitriou2290
@panosgeorgedimitriou2290 11 ай бұрын
Erdogan is like those ladies in the streets who say i do everything for 5 dollars 😂😂😂
@Free_Muslim_Unlike_Slaves
@Free_Muslim_Unlike_Slaves 11 ай бұрын
just like your mother ?
@Ar1AnX1x
@Ar1AnX1x 11 ай бұрын
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