He also spent time in Northern KY. His kids went to Simon Kenton HS I believe. He would hang out at the local racetrack Turfway Park.

Lmao

I’ll tell you h’wat

i didn't get it until i read the lasr two words. lmao

He had a son? Even with his, uh, y'know, narrow urethra?

Tommy also killed the van driver for the Lufthansa heist . At least now we have uber and lift.

Cocaine Bear

Ray played a great corrupt cop once ...perfect role ..

Seriously .. all the good ones gotta go

@@EXPLISITemcee place beyond the pines

🤣 a man of culture i see.

I've always thought that was a little too quick. There's not quite enough time for us to see the ultimate truth on Tommy's face before the "Oh n-" and the gunshot.

@@tomshea8382 I hear that. I like the tempo of the scene, but I get what you're saying.

when I first saw it it was shocking, had no idea he was going to be killed

@@tomshea8382 that's how fast you go from being made to lights out ....

I saw this movie for my first time when I was 13. I had just watched The Godfather and thought it would be more or less the same and oh man was I wrong! Watching Tommy get shot like that freaked me out I can’t believe people actually live that way

I thought the kid he shot in the foot was going to be the one to take him out.

@That V8 Life But Jimmy and Henry participated in the killing and didn't get hit. I heard the narrator's explanation and I think he was part right. But I took it that only Tommy got hit because there was no evidence against Jimmy and Henry. Henry, Jimmy and Billy were the only ones left in the bar when Tommy came back in and they killed Billy. Billy had been missing for a while and no one knew what had happened to him. Paulie even asked Henry if he knew anything about Billy missing and Henry of course said he didn't. But Billy had associates who were with him when his altercation with Tommy occurred and heard Tommy threaten Billy on his way out, and of course they talked, so the mob put 2 and 2 together knowing that was the last time anyone saw Billy. No one other than Tommy, Jimmy and Henry knew Billy was killed in the bar that night, so Tommy being the one they knew had motive where ever Billy happened to be killed was blamed for it,.

Well said...and also the fact it came out he killed a MADE MAN without permission and that's a no no

You are correct, and as you know, he killed a "made man." and he was pretty much out of control.

“Everybody” are criminals, also

Im pretty sure if I remember correctly that he did it to "test a new gun"

@@BrianMusic12 yes he did.

Henry Hill is also a notorious liar. He constantly exaggerated and full blown makes things up

@@MrRasnowman While conveniently acting like he never took part in any of the worst of it as he also seems to know too many details and laughs about women being brutalized til he realizes how phycho it looks and snapping back to the character he plays as the innocent guy along for the ride that just made a few mistakes and ran with the wrong crowd. It blows my mind how willing people are to take this guy's word for anything when he's a known liar and probably one of the slimiest of the bunch. A rat is never a good source, they've already shown they lack character. But they'll say anything to make it look like they had good reason to betray the people they called "friend" til things got thick.

Tommy got killed because he killed Billy Batts who was a member of The Gambino's and a "made" man. Killing a made man is a no no in the Mafia. The day Tommy was going to be made, it was a "ruse".

Martin Scorsese's mother in real life played Tommy's mother in the movie.

His dad's in it to plays vinnie the guy that whacks Tommy

5-7 mins 😁

@@mattborski9254 : Yes, Catherine Scorsese, & she was just so adorable!

I have no sympathy for her. As a mother she failed, she raised a psychopath.

Bro godfathee

You are correct.

And Frank DiLeo (Tuddy) and Tony Sirico (Tony "Stacks," The Canarsie Kid.)

If you want to hear his voice: It was revenge for Billy Batts, and a lot of other things. And there was nothing that we could do about it. Batts was a made man, and Tommy wasn't. And we had to sit still and take it. It was among the Italians. It was real greaseball shit. They even shot Tommy in the face so his mother couldn't give him an open coffin at the funeral.

And RIP to Frank Vincent 🙏🏿 (Billy Batts)

That's alot of straws fam

From what I understand it between the Italians. Real greezball stuff

Tommy apparently tried to r*pe Karen while Henry was in prison. Karen was already having an affair with Paulie at the time.

Tommy was too loose..

"It was revenge for Batts... plus a bunch of other stuff." It's strongly hinted by Henry that that might have been the case

@3:55 was a real retired NY cop who after he retired was found guilty of being a Hitman for the mob...died in prison...lmao

I had lunch with Ed McDonald a couple of times. Good guy. Former Asst US Atty, NOT a cop.

Wow. That's cool!

No- that was the fed that actually worked with Henry. The cops you’re thinking about were Stephen Caracappa and Louis Eppolito.

@triandfit1 Ha I just saw them mentioned this morning on the mob program on NatGeo - the episode about Gotti.

Your right it was a few of his family members

This is true. I read that too

Which is why it’s ironic that when he kills spider he says “his whole family was full of rats, kid was gonna grow up to be a rat”. Of course no one was going to say anything to a pissed off Tommy with a gun though lol

Correct. Sound logic

There was no 14th amendment in the Mob. Generally, if they thought you were involved. You were dead. Not a lot of people wanted to fuck with Jimmy the Gent though. He was just as nuts as Tommy. Look at how many bodies came out of the Lufthansa heist.

Yup. You don't kill a made man unless you have permission too. The two guys with Bats, celebrating with no doubt would have been questioned and told it kicked off with Tommy. And Bats going missing and no one not saying anthing the top guys put 2 and 2 together

@@3000KJH in Henry's place, too. One lucky mick, I'll tell ya.

Great point... unless Conway and henry were also part of some irish mobb .. henry lied,dealt drugs,lied to a made boss.. and helped bury a mobb boss..Bats was alive in the trunk..they all killed him.

Paulie did in fact give up Tommy, but the reasons are a little more devious. Paulie had been sleeping with Henry's wife, started when Henry and Jimmy went to jail in the early 70's. Tommy, the sociopath that he was, tried to rape Karen, who obviously told Paulie about it. Paulie gave up Desimone to the Gambino family some time after the Bats killing, with that knowledge in the back of his mind.

@@smellsuperb1 True, but Paulie always hated Tommy. The mafia does not want guys who are totally nuts like that, you can never tell if they will turn on you and they bring attention and trouble. So that helps justify it, but in the end it was about the money.

There was also talk that Tommy would eventually go after Pauline’s seat. He probably got popped just as much for that. And, as Liotta said, this was before Crazy Joe. While fictional, it’s a nice Easter Egg to see who orders his hit in the Irishman.

@@realazduffman it was more about his acts, of course money played a part. But when the Gambino family came to Paulie, he basically gave up Tommy so long as they left Jimmy alone. So basically it was a combination.

Henry was a gopher, associate at best. What was he earning

He wasn't whacked by Gotti, that's another Henry Hill embellishment. Vario was told to get rid of DeSimone and he was killed by made guys within the family. Gotti wouldn't have even attended the fake ceremony because it was a lucchese thing and had nothing to do with the Gambinos. If he were, Tommy would have known right away and probably ran or been killed on the spot.

Yes he was killed by John gotti because gotti was good friends with Billy bates

@@teddykgb2450 I believe he was part of John Gotti's crew in the Gambino family! 😊

@@teddykgb2450 its Batts

Some people get mad that some of these guys like Sammy the Bull are out of prison and have KZfaq channels where they talk about some of their crimes and why and how they got into this life, but I've really appreciated hearing their viewpoints and I think it might help keep some people from getting into the same situations.

@@zerodayappalachianminuteme3688 Pauly Walnuts (Paulie Gualtieri) played by Tony Siricio, is also in both. I probably watched Goodfellas 15 times before I realized it was him! The scene where they grab the postman and where Henry 'Broke his cherry'!

It's neat when there's an "inside" comment like that.

CWWWISTOFFERRRRR

@@zerodayappalachianminuteme3688 Yup! Beansie was Henry's Pittsburgh connect.

@@rvbberbandheart Oh man! Never realized that!! You're right!!! Neat!

in the movie the bats killing was timed rong it was a week or 2 later after the shine box bit is when bats got killed .bats was not made by opening the books he payd his way allso calld buying your pin .bats was gottis buddy pauly told gotti who killd bats and let gotti do as he will tommy pissd off to menny ppl its was only a matter of time .in the movie it was said toomy had a closed castit becose he was shot in face fact was there was no boddy .last i heard his boddy was in the bacement of jimmys bar along with bats after the dug him upbecose of land sale

Never looked at it that way.. great point

@@calburge4338 I always figured all Paulie would have had to do was once he heard from 'Batts associates that he was last seen alive in the bar was to ask the bartender what happened. Of course Batts' friends are going to fill him in on what transpired between him and Tommy and even though Batts' crew didn't see Tommy as a threat because Batts was a made guy Paulie knew better because he knew Tommy more intimately and knew he was crazy. By all rights Paulie was supposed to give up Jimmy and probably Henry because he had to know that Jimmy must have some part in the killing because of the fact that he was there and because he could kinda' control Tommy since they were close. Paulie also knows that Henry isn't a killer but he just as well could have ended up being collateral damage since he was with Tommy so Paulies decision was simple as far as what to do. You give up the pain in the @ss who deserves to go anyway and eliminate future problems which keeps Batts crew happy, while you don't mention your top two earners because that would cost you your percentage of their future earnings .

Yep, I always thought in the movie that was it. "We" see tommy and henry complicit, but NO ONE ELSE DID. Everyone did see thought Tommy enraged and his history of violence made it clear it was him.

I head this before. Everything this guy says in this video I never heard before.

This was said in the book. Tommy was killed over Karen. Paulie was doing Karen while Henry was in prison.

Paulie was a ruthless douche… most were falsely portrayed in the film for Hollywood Except Tommy. The fact Pesci nailed a character that was a foot taller than him speaks volumes

It's kinda hinted at in the movie when Paulie says I know how to talk to her especially her when he's convincing Henry to go back to Karen.

@@GuavaConQueso Yeah, once I heard the story I watched the movie again realized they slipped that in.

Yep. Also as Michael Franzese say's. Earners get more leeway. Tommy was a liability.

There was no such outburst in real life. Tommy held his tongue and they whacked him a few weeks later.

In reality I'm sure they knew Henry and Jimmy could've likely been involved but the money was too good. If they whacked everyone who helped someone break the rules there would be no earners left. It's a sick disgusting life and people glamorize these movies but seem to forget how then end. Especially Nicky and his brother in Casino. No thanks. I'd rather be "poor" and happy than "rich" and dead. Imagine family members having to live with the reality of that.

@@captaincaveman2040 Yeah, didn't Jimmy wack Bats in real life?

@@flightofthebumblebee9529 the rules of LCN state that they cant whack non members

😁

It's true I heard it when I was making grilled cheese on the rAy tii ator while I was in the can ......20 years

He should have been an interior decorator.

Oh yeah?

🤣🤣🤣

Yeah the guy from Florida

no perfect excuses needed if a Sit Down came to nothing it would have been kicked upstairs to the Bosses it's a Rule & the Bosses would have ruled in favour of the DeSimone hit cos Batts was Made Tommy wasn't. plus Paulie gave him up to the Gambinos because Tommy Raped Karen Hill who at the time was having an affair with Paulie & apparently John Gotti took part in the hit as him & Batts were supposedly tight?

Plus the guy that he killed was from Gotti's crew.

@@MrReese8732 Billy Batts got whacked for making sassing remarks about Tommy's shine box. Billy was recently released from the can (slang for jail) and he has a party a Henry's place called The Suite. Tommy had no idea he killed a "made" guy. Later on. Jimmy told Henry that Tommy was going to be "made". He had the smile of a Cheshire cat from Alice in Wonderland. Tommy later gets all pimped out for his big day. He rode in a 1978 Buick Park Avenue and gets "whacked".

@@frankdenardo8684 there was also another guy from Gotti's crew he killed. Ronald Jerothe. Fucked the guys sister, fucked up the guy's sister. Killed him after he started telling the street he was out to whack Tommy. So basically there was 2 friends of Gotti that got murdered by this guy.

Pesci was small yet his proformance was larger than life.

And it's actually the guys of little stature like Tommy that I find more annoying than physically larger guys with the same disposition. Kind of makes me feel less sorry for the little guy getting whacked because he deserved it more. That's just my take.

@@stanleybroniszewsky8538 what 😭

Wow Crissy, It's bad enough you smothered poor Cosette but now you're outta control

@D Legionnaire Thanks, but I'm too cheap for prime!

If you have any suggestions for another Goodfellas video, go ahead and maybe, if it's good enough, I will make a video about it.

@@MoviesConsigliere I'm already thinking about it!

Bingo

Charlie Murphy would call him a "habitual line stepper"

Yes Henry Hill said in an interview that Tommy D shooting Spider and then later Billy Batts was his undoing. In fact, Henry also said that Tommy D scared Henry so bad that Henry would always walk with caution around Tommy.

I didn't read this far down. Not a bad response

"for the murder of Billy Bats. ...and a lot of other things."

Yep, he basically became too much of a 'loose cannon'.

Yea. While they're "bad guys", they still have a reputation to keep. Tommy just too unhinged

"And......a whole lotta other things."

But movie-wise, Jimmy and Henry were involved in that killing too (Henry less so, but still…).

@@robertbusek30 Yeah, that occurred to me. But maybe, as non-made accomplices after the fact, they were exempt. The common law didn't treat accomplices after the fact with the same degree of liability as the principal offender. Maybe this was true in the Mob as well. Or nobody else knew Jimmy and Henry helped get rid of the body later, whereas Tommy offed Billy in front of witnesses.

Fun Fact: They had to water Tommy DOWN for the movie. He was so legit for real that Scorsese didn't think the audience would believe that he was that evil and wild.

No, it was because of bats smh

@@jacoblang5139 Incorrect

Sammy the bull mentions this incident in his podcast

I wish I could do a lot of fuck shit.

Wrong, Bats was a made man, touching a made man without permission WILL get you killed

Raging Bull

Paul Herman was in all three and also 'The Irishman'

I understand Phil did some time behind bars, but he never talked about it.

Jungle Fever too

@@starguy2718 And he compromised too

Who's everyone? 🫤 relax dude.

@@NoMoreLies365 it's you bro, you everyone. Pretty obvious you forgot too. Amateur.

@@Rejoice. ?? Y’all are so weird

Don’t forget Harry

@snowest gaming Is that Gone Fishin ? Oh Home Alone, right

@snowest gaming I doubt it - he probably made more $ off of those movies than these classic gangster films . I do not know what type of Budget Scorcese had for Goodfellas - but I don' t think those actors got huge $ - he uses a lot of the same actors - Deniro , Pesci have been in numerous - both in raging bull , I think Pesci was in mean streets, Casino - (that probably had a big budget ) and the irishman - that one they probably got paid well . But I'll bet he made a lot of $ for those home alone movies

I thought it was because tommy wanted to own a shoe shine business but Batts was working in that area. Tommy had intentions to be a capo and have lower level guys shine peoples shoes. The business was gonna be called Spitshine Tommy. Batts kept referring to tommy as just a shoe shiner and didn’t recognize that he was aiming to run it and not do any hands on work.

@@Filthy_Larry Stoopid 😂

The shinebox reference refers to when Tommy was a kid he used to shine shoes for money before he got involved with Jimmy.

That's not just your belief, that's reality. Jimmy was given Batts' operation when Batts went to prison, and Batts was set to take it back. So it's no coincidence he got whacked right after getting out of prison. This altercation between Tommy and Batts was just a catalyst for what was going to happen anyway

Yes very important distinction

That restaurant thing was a shakedown. Watch it again from the point of view that Paulie set it up. Look at all the stuff they do after they have the restaurant.

I was under assumption that it was for killing a made man and other transgressions.

Yep,.

@@cupofqwarffee4802 Also, it's a good example of what's happening now to the US as a nation. It's a global shake down, baby.

I think in reality - Jimmy had an awful lot to do with it - the root of it all was Jimmy had taken over Billy Batts bookmaking operation while he was in prison - and Billy wanted it back - Jimmy was not the type to give up business like that - so in an effort to get rid of the problem he helped instigate and stir up the bad blood between Billy and Tommy - knowing where that was going - so you see in the movie - Deniro is right there with him once it starts - beating and kicking him until they take him out in the rug and stuff him in the trunk of the car .

Me too.

I agree. It could perhaps be the somewhat relaxed nature of the narration throughout most of the film, or even the family-like nature of some of the conversations that occur... right up until Henry Hill's really paranoid and coked-up narration kicks in.

@@luisrosario3781 yeah I feel like the end scenes where Henry does his chores are the only intense moments. Not even the scenes with Billy bats killing and spider and eating dinner at Tommy's mother house are intense to me.

@@harshnaini The dinner scene with Tommy's mom was more wholesome than anything else. Between her insistence on making them food to the fact that that was Martin Scorsese's mom playing the part made it that much better.

You're a funny guy....

This lol

Well he did kill a made guy without permission. 🤌

And he was huge. 6 feet or in that neighborhood. Big guy.

@Stefano Pavone oh yes. I believe it. Completely.

Sounds like me whenever I play Grand Theft Auto

@ ant boogie, not only did you not watch the video, you didn’t read the book either. It was about money. A guy that read the book about five comments below yours said Tommy took over a lot of the rackets Billy Bats had whilst Billy was incarcerated. When he got out of jail he wanted his gigs back. Every American likes money but those La Cosa Nostra guys and their wives LOVE money and most of their murders has to do with money.

@moester75 but if we're just going by the movie (which in this case you have to bc the director, Martin Scorsese, just can't assume everyone read the book), it was bc Tommy killed a made guy when Tommy wasn't a made guy. Like I said in my original comment, that's a huge no no. If you watched the Sopranos, Johnny Sac wanted to kill Ralphy bc of the joke he made about his wife. But he went to Carmine and asked for a sit down bc he wanted to kill him. Carmine voted no, and Johnny Sac had to just swallow that anger he felt towards Ralphy and let it go. Bc if he would've taken it upon himself to kill Ralphy, Johnny Sac 💯% would've been killed

@ Ant Boogie, fair enough buddy that’s a fair assessment. Not everyone read the book. I can’t believe Karen had consensual coitus with Paulie. The real Paulie didn’t look like Mira Sorvino’s dad.

Real grease ball shit

Its not 100% fictional most of it is true

Nope

No Foxy wasn't a Gambino associate yes Member Never

@@spfg8225 Perhaps you are right. But I saw a Henry Hill interview where that is what he stated as ONE OF the reasons why the Gambinos wacked Two Gun. There were "other reasons"...🤔

It was actually foxys sister

​@@lestergillis8171 foxys sister bro not daughter

​@@lestergillis8171 tommy beat her sister up that's why foxy threatened him

they wouldnt wait 9 years to kill him then

20 fucking years

Well said and thank you for the truth. My uncle told me when I was very young that in America “ anything that has anything to do with anything, has to do with money”. Of course in the end, it was all about money.

this isnt even close to true....check out "Our thing" with sammy the bull he talks about this incident and why tommy got whacked

Didn't Tommy get whacked in real life by Gotti or Gotti's crew.

Wrong.

I've read that Jimmy Burke was the one behind it. He was killing off the crew members who had participated in Lufthansa because he wanted to keep the money himself.

@@MrX-sg9us He didn't kill the people because dead men can't talk? That's to much money. I think he would've killed them to not go to jail forever & a day.

There were how many people in the bar who could’ve told?

I'm going to make an entire video about it.

Wouldn’t that out them as having been involved? I feel like it’s better to not rock the boat in that situation and be thankful no one came for you. Jimmy was already a prime suspect since batts wanted his loan sharing business back.

Plus Tommy killed Ronald “foxy” Jerothe who was tight with Gotti. Between Billy Bats and Foxy he was a dead man walking.🍻

When Henry narrates " it was for Billy Batts, and a lot of other things " John Gottis protégé was one, Tommy trying to rape Karen when Henry was in prison and Paulie was screwing her for money was another. You don't try to rape your bosses side piece

It's thought that Tommy likely died at Gotti's own hands, and it's almost certain that he died a slow and agonizing death; far more so than what was depicted in Goodfellas.

@@cha5 One of the old mob guys told what happened. They went to Tommy's place where he was with his girlfriend shot tommy in the head then walked back into the room where his ol lady was (ONE OF THE GUYS THAT WAS WITH THEM) and shot her and killed her too. The other guys got pissed off about him killing that girl and the guy that killed the girl wound up getting killed right after all that.

@@12floz67 tommy killed a made man and tommy didn't have permission

But the real Tommy didn’t kill Mori, he was already dead.

5 if you count the end of the movie where he was shooting at the camera, was most likely meant to be someone as well. Maybe that was Foxy?

Haha! Lies. Did you also read that Stacks was going to be made as well 🤣🤣💪

He didn’t die. He become Chris from soprano

@@BagavanSmokey so he was made before Tommy ever was.

isn´t one big question did spider ever even exist? ....like that random dude who tommy shot in the street without reason? according to henry hill 🤔

If Spider was earning enough to have them even consider making him as a teenager, he would’ve had a bigger role in the movie

Yeah he passed a year or 2 ago.