Hayden is perfect for the role as Anakin/Darth Vader! He didn't deserve all the hate he got after the prequels. Can't wait to see him in "Ahsoka"

in my opinion , the smile was there to show that he's totally gone off the deep end at this point. he's killed kids, Jedi, he flooded an entire town. murdered innocents. it feels more like the director trying to show us just how far gone Anakin was, thus making Luke redeeming him that much more powerful. I really enjoy the smile because it goes to show no matter how powerful obi-wan is, only Luke, a fragment of Padme, the catalyst for bringing him to the dark in the first place could really bring him back.

Also, notice how in the earlier episodes Vader does not have that nasty scar in his scalp. But after Obi-Wan slices his mask open, he now has that nasty scar on his scalp, the same one that Luke sees when he pulls off the helmet. It canonized the scar. Which was not present when Anakin burned on Mustafár either

So when I watched this fight I was struck by a couple things. Obi-Wan issued a genuine, from the heart apology. When he last fought Anakin, he didn't apologize; he said that he failed Anakin. For Anakin that was never an apology which is why he alluded to it in this scene. Obi-Wan had, at Mustafar, made it about himself. This time, Obi-Wan was being genuine and truly contrite. He was vulnerable to Anakin, which initially was received by Anakin as reflected in the blue flicker of light on his face. However, Anakin suffers from this duality of personality in that Vader is part of himself just under the surface. The last vestige of Anakin was when he said that he wasn't Obi-Wan's failure. But then the Vader within him takes hold and control. Vader attempts to play psychological warfare with Obi-Wan, but what Vader doesn't expect is that Obi-Wan, in being vulnerable with Anakin, is no longer holding on to the guilt of what happened. So when Obi-Wan walks away it leaves Vader rattled. When you hear Vader yelling Obi-Wan's name you can also hear Anakin's voice. I interpreted that as Vader screaming in anger and Anakin, in trying to overcome Vader, crying out to Obi-Wan for help.

All of the Sith portrayed in the prequels seem to smile at various points (Sidious especially), so I think it's not out of character for Vader to share in the sadism. He knows here that, even in defeat, he is hurting Obi Wan emotionally... so he's relishing in that.

The lines “I am not your failure”and “you did not kill Anakin Skywalker I did.“ I think that is Vader taking responsibility for himself. He made the choices he did and he embraces them. He embraced the Dark side, he embraced evil. He chose to destroy what he was and chooses to do that every day. That was how he psychologically got to Obi-Wan. The smirk is malice.

I’ve always seen Vader and Anakin as separate characters. I think Vaders smile was a boast as he was the one to defeat the chosen one thus making him more powerful than Anakin. He’s proud of his efforts and it is only Luke who can reach out to Anakin behind Vaders persona to give Anakin the motivation to destroy Vader. Idk, just my thoughts.

The only thing I regret from this show is not bringing back Padme in flashback or in dialogue. She was central in Anakin's downfall so it's a bit odd that she wouldn't be talked about during Vader/Obi-wan interactions. Same thing for Anakin's mother. We had many flashbacks about Reva's trauma, but none about Anakin's. That's why I hope a show around Vader will be made and will take care of this.

That was probably the most unnerving thing I’ve ever seen, one of the best scenes in Star Wars

Padmé said to Obi-Wan: "He has still good in him..." Obi-Wan never let this thought go, and when he finally sees his old friend's face, he still tries, as a last effort, bring him back. Calling out, desperately apologizing. When Vader sees this, he finds it not just usable, but miserable and pitiful. He isn't just taunting Obi-Wan with his smile. He is GENUINELY "laughing" at Obi-Wan. That after 10 years, he is still living in that lie that he can be brought back. And that is what Vader does. What he was trained to do, what he was told to do. *He killed hope.* In my opinion, if we could ask Obi-Wan "How does it feel to win this fight?" he would answer *"...Did I?"*

“I’m sorry for all of it” This is genuine remorse from obi wan as he is showing great sympathy with anakins struggle from the death of his mother to the forbidden love for Padme, that the Jedi would not allow Also and most importantly training a young boy while knowing the warning from yoda

I loved that smile. Vader is clearly loving the idea that he “killed” anakin and seeing that pain wash over obiwan.

THANKS HAYDEN! The best Vader we ever seen! We want a Vader série

He took joy in knowing obi wan’s sorrow was misplaced. He doesn’t want an apology, he wants him revenge. Not only would he love to kill Obi wan, but Vader loves the emotional pain that he’s feeling: he knows it *burns* Obi wan to see his former brother and apprentice in consumed with such darkness. Vader is engulfed with power and hatred, knowing obi wan is filled with shame, sorrow, and remorse makes Vader almost humorously happy

He felt how depressed Obi-wan was when he got to see Anakin’s face again. Vader was actively trying to hurt him like you said and succeeded. Vader was able to hurt Obi-wan mentally, and that’s why he had that maniacal smile. Obi-wan had realized Anakin was truly dead after that. Why he didn’t put Vader out of his misery is beyond me. I would be able to see that as an act of misery, tbh.

I don't know why, I'm not a huge star wars fan, but I do love the relationship between Obi-Wan and Anakin and it just crushes me knowing how Anakin was manipulated. Hayden and Ewan do such a great job portraying these broken characters and I often times think about the what-if scenario where Anakin doesn't turn to the dark side. Without going too deep into it, The epic tragedy of the Star Wars Skywalker saga has such an emotional grip on me its wild.

God I hope from now on Hayden is always the one wearing the suit, I’m just blown away by his and Ewan’s performance in this episode. The hints of their previous duels in this fight are great and they still have that combat chemistry that made their mustafar fight legendary.

I don't know what it was, but seeing Anakin's face finally in the suit, just hit me right in the feels. I was like oooh Anakin lol. He is my favourite character in all stories ever.

An interespecting perspective! This entire scene is amazing. The way i interpreted it was that "i am not your failure" was a subtle moment of anakin coming to the surface almost as a consoling comment to kenobi, yet at the same time it can be interpreted as vader being insulted by being called a failure when he is actually more powerful than ever. The fact that the line is ambiguous like that is what makes it so powerful, and ofcourse the fading in and out of both the red and blue sabers, as well as the blending of Vader's voice and anakins voice, i think supports that line feeling ambiguous to both meanings.

I took that scene differently. I read the “you did not kill Anakin Skywalker, I did.” As a very slight sliver of Anikins good inside, screaming out for help, regret, and Vader shoving it back down inside. His cry, Obiwan! Was 2 parts also. First time, it was Anakin, crying out for help to make it go away, change what happened, stop him from turning, and last as Vader pushing it down again in anger.

When Vader said he killed Anakin its kind of a reference to how Obi Wan told Luke ,Vader killed his father

The way I read into it was Vader was taunting him-- by taking ownership of the death of Anakin he expected Obi-Wan to slip up just enough and come in close for a finishing strike so Vader could turn it around, because that's how he himself would react if the situation were reversed. He is smiling cause he thinks he has him at that point and Vader is too damaged to go after him so he plays mind games to get Kenobi to come at him instead, but Obi-Wan did the one thing Vader was incapable of imagining anyone doing-- which is what Obi-Wan was trying to teach him through the entirety of the flashback. That's it's not about victory or the final blow-- and he simply walks away, because ultimately Obi-Wan doesn't want to kill anyone-- he simply does what he must and he had already achieved his objective which was to buy time. That is why Vader went from smirking to screaming his name in frustration-- he just couldn't understand anyone walking away from what seemed like an easy victory.

“That was a great moment for qui gon to come in” even qui gon said he wasn’t ready to see him yet at the end

It made perfect sense to me for why Vader is smiling. It’s an almost demonic, evil smile, it’s haunting. It’s a way for Obi Wan to believe that Anakin is truly gone and unredeemable; he says as much to Luke in ROTJ. There’s an arrogance to it and the “pride” of Vader beating down and crushing the light inside of him. Anakin is truly gone and it takes his own flesh and blood to redeem him and show him compassion and mercy for that light to come back.

Man. That was worth the wait! I really REALLY want a Vader series now and it NEEDS to be Hayden. Delighted that the fans have his back after years of crap. MTFBWY!

Absolutely amazing acting by Hayden and Ewan in this series. The finale was incredibly emotional and I think is an amazing conclusion to Anakin and Obi-wans friendship and makes a lot of things in the og trilogy make alot more sense

6:01 that was a demonstration on how much of a hold Vader has... I think that's why it took Luke suffering, not him talking to him but almost dieing in front of him to snap out of it. You can hurt your brother and get over it... Your mentor your teacher... No man can watch as his child, knowing that is his flesh and blood, the last vestiges of his Love for padme, he can't watch his Son die... But Obi-Wan on the other hand....

Honestly I think it's a smile of satisfaction. When he'd met Obi earlier he was weak and Vader easily defeated him - Obi came back like a lion. The part of Anakin that's still there was like "well done Obi Wan" and the Sith part of him was happy that the threat of Darth Vader was so intense that it brought Obi Wan's powers back to the surface. I believe it was a smile of grudging respect and a bit of glee at knowing that he'd wounded Obi that deeply - that while Vader was in a cybernetic prison - Obi was in a prison of his own and just as miserable as Vader.

"Obi Wan might have been one of the greatest Jedi to ever live". Erm, he was one of the greatest Jedi to ever live even before we got this series. He's always been known to be that. I would argue Anakin's assessment of him was correct. He was as wise as Master Yoda and as powerful as Master Windu, and here he absolutely dominated the Chosen One. He is the master, and Vader is the learner. I think when Vader knew he'd lost, he was then set on dying, and he tried to goad Kenobi into avenging Anakin and striking him down, and then he would have had the ultimate victory by causing Obi Wan to fall. However, I also think there was a part of Vader that wanted Obi Wan to put him out of his misery, and that's why he screamed for Obi Wan to return. I think he wanted Kenobi to finish him. Also, completely agree. Obi Wan is the greatest of the Star Wars characters and also my favourite.

I think Anakin was trying to die. He's in constant physical, mental, and even spiritual pain. He believed Kenobi was holding back so as not to kill his friend/Padawan. Anakin wanted to convince Kenobi that Anakin was dead so that Kenobi would strike down Anakin and end Anakin's pain once and for all.

That scene even had me in tears feeling the connection between them two. That scene was shot so well - strong energy

I think we are all so used to thinking of Vader as only the suit and mask, with Anakin trapped inside both. This scene let us see that Vader really is a flesh and blood person. With what is inside the suit being even more twisted and horrible than what is on the outside.

I definitely DID notice that maniacal smile! I loved it! That simple thing added so much to this episode. I am also a huge fan of horror films and that really spoke to me.

Vader saying “I killed Anakin.” Is taking ownership of his situation. He chose to turn to the Emperor and the Dark Side rather than Obi-Wan having any say or involvement. Obviously up to this series Obi-Wan believes he killed Anakin on Mustafar and what he is confronted with is basically a droid with Force powers. When Obi-Wan sees Anakin’s face beneath the armour that is the moment that reality hits. The actions of Vader do not fit with the feelings Obi-Wan has, the love, loss and guilt he has. His own failure to complete the training, his failure to carry out Qui-Gon’s last request and the turning of Anakin to the Dark Side and all the atrocities he carried out which are flashing through his mind Obi-Wan believes these are all his fault because he failed Anakin. Vader knows all of this is deeply upsetting for Obi-Wan and so the psychological victory is clearly Vader’s hence the smile.

1:55 The battle location was pretty cool, reminded of the final battle in Avatar the Last Airbender, just MUCH closer quarters. Got some good tie-ins to Rebels ("then you will die" and helmet swipe) as well as the original trilogy. "Your powers have returned" vs "Your powers are weak old man," also in close quarters fighting

I can interpret the “I am not your failure” line a couple different ways. First, as Anakin peeking through and offering Obi Wan genuine consolation. This seems to be a major consensus among everyone especially given the duality between the red and blue light illuminating his face at specific times. However, I can also interpret the line as something less genuine and more sarcastic and biting, almost as if - even if it is Anakin still peeking through - he’s throwing the term “failure” in Obi Wan’s face. Anakin was always striving for approval and deeply resented being pitied, especially at the end of RotS. I think he truly felt that Obi Wan was often patronizing and desperately needed encouragement and “hyping” that Obi Wan (and the Jedi) didn’t really believe in. He wanted his power and skill to be acknowledged and I think in some ways was jealous of Obi Wan. In RotS when Obi Wan told him “I have failed you,” I think Anakin saw that more as Obi Wan being concerned about himself and his reputation, and less about Anakin’s needs or feelings. So he’s saying, “You don’t need to beat yourself up over this anymore. The great Obi Wan Kenobi didn’t fail.”

I think he was able to tap into the force more because of the situation he was in. Reflecting on everything while buried. More machine than man, twisted and evil

I love this part the most. Seeing the blue and red from the saber. Trying to represent the good in him. Also did you guys see Vader eyes change? From blue back to Sith yellow. Even Palpatine knows when we see him talking to Vader.

Never mess with Obi Wan. He is probably the most complete and one of the most powerful Jedi ever to exist.

I see it as a little bit of anakin coming thru. Anakin still loves obi wan even though anakin wants to hate him. He’s helping his master and giving him closure by taking ownership of his own actions, even if he doesn’t fully believe it and he’s smiling in the same sly way that he did in their practice fight from the last episode. Even though he wants to kill obi wan, he doesn’t and he still feels a comfort and excitement being with obi wan. Kinda like being with like, idk I can only relate it to an ex where like, you know there is tons of heart break there but also, there’s a comfort in just being around that person and you get kinda excited and giddy. Anakin is always there inside of Vader, now he is just shoving anakin down farther and farther and we see that thru the blue light succumbing to the red light on his face/helmet. Anakin isn’t gone, it’s just going to take a lot to bring him back, like Luke for example. We tend to think of anakin/darth as two different personalities and I guess that’s kinda true but I think of it more as anakin/darth is just one flawed person. who is capable of great atrocities and evil and great acts of love and bravery.

Had to love Darth grinning and it was an evil grin. Well played and I love Hayden coming back I liked the switching between his voice and James Earl Jones voice as Vader. I thought for a split second Anakin was back and then he disappeared before you knew it.

As someone who was waiting for Qui-gon to speak to Obi-Wan, I think its more powerful for Oni-Wan to find his path over having someone guide him. There's a term in psychology, it's better they find their path then having a therapist direct them. This was Oni-wans therapy.

I absolutely loved the way they spliced the two voices together so we got something truly different and terrifying at the same time. Made me Love Hayden/Vader that much more, I know he’s not a character that’s unmasked a lot but does show that he’s just as evil under it, as he is outside. I don’t think we’ll ever get another shot of Anakins face as it is now, that was the one last time we see him as a person or what’s left anyways.

I was desperately hoping to hear Qui Gon under the rubble. I think they knew that would’ve been a really good moment too, however, I understand why they chose not to. To me it seems they wanted Obi-Wan to have a powerful, independent moment, in which he finally gathered the morale on his own to do what needed to be done. The moment he blasted the rubble away was when he finally reconnected with himself and even surpassed where he was in RotS. Saving Qui-Gon for the very end made it so much more powerful, legitimately brought tears to my eyes and that was well executed. It’s satisfying when you see it as Obi-Wan overcoming his fear and doubts on his own. Qui-Gon even points it out.

This version of Obi Wan would have easily taken down General Grievous

Can’t wait till Ewan is in his 60’s and can play obi-wan from the original movies

Two things that have been overlooked that connect directly to the original trilogy, we now have an explanation for the scar on top of Vader’s head as seen in Return of the Jedi, also the line Vader gives in “A New Hope” when he says “when I left you” could refer to whenever he leaves Obi wan covered beneath the rocks, believing that he has won the fight

I think the smile is because he knows Obi wan is deeply disturbed by what his once padawan has become ...kinda like a “look at what you did” smile

I took this dialogue as the small part of Anakin inside Vader surfacing momentarily absolving Obi Wan of the failure on both of their parts. But Vader quickly returned and stated that he killed Anakin

this scene was incredible! i couldnt look away! it was an emotional scene with great acting! I like when Obiwan finally accepts Anakin is gone and calls him Darth.

Obi-Wan: I will do what I must. Narrator: He doesn't.

I love how when Obi -Wan said I'll do what I must sounded like Ben and Obi-Wan mixed.

I didn't take what Vader said like that. He said "I am not your failure obiwan" talking in the first person meaning anakin was talking then. Then while explaining that he didn't kill anakin skywalker, he says "I did", again talking in first person meaning Vader was talking then. To me anakin was touched by obiwans apology because it proves he cared about him, something anakin has convinced himself that he and the jedi didn't. This helps keep him as Vader. So when those feelings came up from anakin was owning what happened to him Vader kicks in from the anger of what occurred

Anakin actually did come out at the moment. That twisted smile part yes but right before when he said I am not your failure Anakin was peering through to forgive Obi Wan. Then vader came very quickly but I can’t help but feel overall he took a weight out of obi wans heart.

That part reminded me of the end of Primal Fear (starring Richard Gere & Ed Norton); Vader pulls the ultimate mindf**k, and states that he was the dominant personality the whole time, not Anakin, to drive Obi-Wan into despare. Obi-Wan: There never was a Vader, was there? Vader: There was never an *Anakin*.

The thought of him just smiling through fights and killing people just makes vader even more terrifying. Of course he doesn't smile ALL the time but he has had to at some point during fights when we couldn't see his face. Vader just gets more and more terrifying.

You can see a glimmer of Anakin comeback for just a second right after Kenobi apologizes. Which I think is confusing because Kenobi didn’t pick up on this. Yet Luke was able to sense that Anakin was still in there after a few hard fought family reunions with his father.

I think the smile may also be due to the fact that Obi-Wan, who may be the only one who can defeat him, is unable to so so because of his feelings for Anakin

"as wise as Master Yoda and as powerful as Master Windu", a true Jedi Knight once sayd.

I like your take on this. Thank you for putting it together. I also like how his damaged helmet is now echoed in Luke's vision in the cave on Dagobah when the helmet bursts and his face is revealed (subtle, and maybe not intentional, but another parallel to the son becoming the father).

I think you got it wrong. I feel like Vader wasn’t going to give credit to obi-wan for what he became. Instead of being viewed as a pitiful result of war, he preferred to be seen as a purposeful creation. That he was like that by his own choice. Amazing scene though. Hayden is just amazing

At the end, I felt Vader was relishing in Obi Wans pain n grief over Anakin. He also wanted Obi Wan to kill him and end the misery that he's living in. There was torment in that scream for Obi Wan as he realized Obi Wan once again wouldn't finish him. Tragic will always be the story of Darth Vader.

“When I left you I was but the learner. Now I am the Master”. This quote kept coming to mind during their battle in this series. As Kenobi still took Vader to school when Bader thought he had won.

Him Screaming for Obi shows that Vader was truly the one weakened mentally

Vader was too emotional, less composed during the fight compared to any other fight since he has history with obi wan, letting anakin slip in a little. That and Obi Wan wasn't afraid of Vader, something any other opponent suffers from, loses composure, and ends up making deadly mistakes. Obi wan COULD be stronger, but I'd say Vader isn't at his best here.

I like to think that some small part of Obi-Wan felt that despite everything that there was still a possibility of bringing Anakin back...that he wasn't lost completely. But, I think it was in this moment when Anakin talked to Obi-Wan through that opening in his mask that Obi-Wan realized that his friend and brother Anakin was no more and truly lost and that there was only Vader now. Bringing it full circle of his attitude towards him in episodes 4, 5, and 6 especially when he says to Luke that "he is more machine now, twisted and evil".

I'm glad his strength came from within and not because of Qui Gon.

I loved this duel. It makes totally sense for me Obi Wan not finishing Vader, simply because he is indeed merciful and he still loves his friend, despite seeing him consumed by Vader.

I loved the finale it was very emotional. I actually cried when Obi-Wan cried but like Obi-Wan I was crying for Anakin. But that smile sent chills down my spine.

I disagree with some people here. I think the words are more important than the smile, along with the symbolism. His face is illuminated blue as he says that he killed Anakin. To me, this was Vader finally letting go of the little bit of Anakin that was hanging on. It was his final goodbye to Obi Wan. Second after, his face is illuminated red as he says he will destroy Kenobi. To me, that was the last shred of Anakin being let go. It was “Anakin’s” final goodbye to his master. A way of letting Kenobi know that there was nothing he could’ve done. That it wasn’t his fault, as it was out of his hands and bound to happen. Vader killed Anakin. Not Kenobi. Metaphorically as much as literally. It wasn’t Obi Wan’s actions, but his own.

That's how it is. You think you have Ben cornered, only to realize you have been cornered.

Anakin told obi wan he was not his failure. Vader told Obi-Wan he killed anakin. The thing ppl are seeming to miss is Vader thinks he is the real Tyler Durdin here. Anakin is an annoyance to the Vader personality. He smiles because he forgets he tells Obi-Wan the first part, there is a cheek twitch and in the next beat he is telling Obi-Wan he killed Anakin with a large amount of relish I might add. It is a change over ala fight club, Vader thinks he beat anakin, for years he had him under control, until he realized he had a son and then anakin began to fully regain control.

Obi-Wan had to cross the threshold himself before he was able to contact Qui-Gon. Makes complete sense.

I think it was important for Obi wan to realize his strength and purpose on his own rather than having qui gon help him

Excellent commentary, well done.

It was the training Yoda told him about at the end of RotS. To commune with qui gon obi wan had to correct his understanding of the force. Which automatically made both him and yoda more powerful than the Jedi of the clone wars era

Seeing that whole scene made me sad as hell. Remembering the anakin-Obi-wan duo in the clone wars saga. But I feel like the season was rushed. However, seeing Hayden again under that mask was cool to see

I'm glad you pointed this out just to understand the details that I missed

6:25 Actually, I see it quite differently from most here. "I am not your failure..." I think it was the last trickle of Anakin coming through for just that moment telling Obiwan he hadn't failed him, and took one second to smile before allowing his alter ego to have complete control again. He had failed himself.

That sadistic smile freaks me out every time I see it, just shows how far gone Anakin is at this point and that as he said so himself “I [Vader] am what remains.”

I think It's debatable whether or not the finale fight was really a victory for Obi and a defeat for Vader since the showdown was very deliberately left unfinished. Vader was on the defensive toward the end of the scene but he wasn't beaten completely, what's more important is that he wants to keep fighting where as Obi doesn't after seeing Anakin's face behind that mask. In a weird way Vader's hunt for Obi was the last thing keeping him tied to his emotions and the more human side of himself, hence him smiling. That's why it's sorta tragic that after the scene with Palpatine at the end he commits to burying those feelings toward his former master and becoming the more 'efficient' machine of the Empire we know from the original movies. In contrast, Obi buries Anakin and leaves behind his grief over him to focus being a better caretaker and role model for both Luke and Leia, the former of whom goes on to reignite Vader's humanity. That dual I feel was more emblematic of both men trying to end their relationship rather than who physically beat the other.

Great topic choice & explanation 😉

I'm partially convinced that the reason like could get through was because Vader had never been a father before. He was able to "kill" anikin by cutting off all those old emotional ties and fondness. But Luke was something new. He couldn't just server him, cut him off. He couldn't just put him into a different box. He was the remnant of his wife, but still living and breathing. Vader processed Luke being alive in the same way Anakin did at the same time. It forced him to confront himself about that.

To me, it was more of a connection to the next encounter between the two, in "A New Hope" : at this point, he's to enraged to think straight, and Anakin is still trying to survive in Vader's mind. He was lighted in blue to show when Anakin was talking, then it turned back to red, showing us that Vader learned the lesson, and will now have full control over Anakin. That's also why when they meet again in ANH, he tells Kenobi that he has gone from being the learner (Anakin) to become a Master (Vader). I have the impression we got to see Vader's duality in it's full scale, and that's the perfect scene to transition from the young Vader to the older, "wiser" one.

i just noticed that Hayden was breathing deeply during his scenes as Vader, which matches the lore we know about his breathing equipment works filling air into his lungs almost forcefully. Neat little detail. Also about the smiling, i don't think that was him trying to inflict emotional damage to Obiwan, rather, amusement that he already inflicted that emotional pain 10 years prior.

great analysis sir!!

This show was freaking GLORIOUS!!! It was an emotional roller coaster from start to finish!!! The level of detail, and the love you can see put into the show just blows my mind!! We need more Star Wars like this!!! I do not understand the hate this show keeps receiving. I am nearly 40 years old, and this show had me sobbing more than once! I have friends that suffer from PTSD, and watching these two bring to life characters that fought a war together and then suffer what they both did....both of them dealing with PTSD in two totally different ways... just HOLY HELL!!!! And then the bonus of FINALLY getting to see Vader at his most evil in live action? What a masterpiece!!! I would never in a million years have expected to get this... especially with Disney behind the process of making this show... But I for one, am so glad this was made! The haters can hate, and maybe they are doing so because it is Disney behind the show....but all I can say is, give us more, please?

I believe that the smile was because he knew that he had beaten Obi-Wan... not in the fight, but mentally because he told him outright that Obi-Wan didn't kill Anakin, he did. Obi-Wan knew at that point that Anakin had truly fallen and in his mind, there was no way to come back from the dark side.

to me it felt as if vader was wanting obi-wan to kill him. thats why he was smiling and screaming for him to comeback. as if he wanted obi-wan to use the dark side to kill him. I could be wrong and probably am. it was an awesome moment and the acting is so top class. it was a perfect ending and plays right into A New Hope. Bravo to the writers and to Hayden and Ewan

I noticed this and I wondered why thanks for explaining!

There will never be Redemption for Anakin Skywalker

Yes he did tear Darth Vader a new one, as well as splitting his helmet.

It seemed to me that any amount of hurt he can bring Obi-Wan brings him joy. He saw the pain and sorrow in Obi-Wan's face and took pleasure in making it worse by making it abundantly clear that Anankin as he once knew him is DEAD and Vader killed him. Basically erasing any hope Obi-Wan had of redeeming him. This leads to another point someone else pointed out. That Vader is obsessed with Obi-Wan. Even after Obi-Wan was long dead in Return of the Jedi, Vader was petty enough to jump and claim any morsel of victory he had left over Obi-Wan when he claimed "NOW his failure is COMPLETE". Still chasing Obi-Wan's shadow. The smile showed how sad and rather pathetic Vader was underneath all the theatrics and terror. No matter how powerful Vader becomes, he will always lose to Obi-Wan because his obsession is a weakness.

Thanks for that EnSite. You did a very good job explaining.

What a good job on the video my first time watching this channel

I’ve been saying for close to forever that Obi-Wan was established very early on that he is one of the most powerful Jedi ever. What he said right before he died in A New Hope first clued me in. Never forget that he really let Vader kill him too. Then for him to defeat Maul, then Anakin, and watching the Clone Wars series truly nailed it all into place.

AMAZING analysis on what Vader said to Obi-Wan. That part about him saying, "I killed Anakin" confused me. Now I know why Vader did that; to mess with Obi-Wan

He knew he was hurting him even more then he ever could with physical pain at that time.

I disagree with the need for Qui-Gon Jinn to have anything to do with Obi-Wan's fight. This test was all Obi-Wan and no one else. If Qui-Gon Jinn spoke or appeared, it'd take the emphasis away from Obi-Wan. The emphasis was all Obi-Wan. He alone stood tall without any assistance. No one speak of Palpatine. Surely he'd have known Vader was in trouble, yet again? Surely he'd have feared losing his prize? Or was Palpatine in fear at all? Did he know and could care less? Palpatine would've felt the Force surge aka a "disturbance" as Obi-Wan Force use went from near nothing to significant. Surely Palpatine would've had his own spies on Vader's ship, to know the fight with Obi-Wan didn't end well, as Vader's armor was breached? The big question is why Obi-Wan not sense the darkness in Anikin, especially after he unloaded on the Tuskens? The darkness was growing in Anikin, yet Obi-Wan was blind to it, until Vader arrived... A curious note. Why didn't Vader read Obi-Wan's mind and sense the connection to the children? If not for their origin, for Obi-Wan's Force power growing because of it i.e. Vader to Luke "Your thoughts betray you, you have a sister?!" Was the Force in choosing a side, to be with Obi-Wan, that it also chose to be discreet and hold this reveal back from Vader? Lastly, Reva and the Inquisitors are missing the final Jedi training that would've made them whole. Reva has no idea that she was bringing Vader to her, as noted by Obi-Wan. They lack prescient vision of the future and how things might play out. When Palpatine says to Vader "are you thoughts clear" is an indication on how to focus the mind and see all ends through meditation - the Inquisitors and many Force users are blind to this level of connection and reality. Palpatine and Vader are not. They have full training and use the Force to their advantage. It's the one lesson, Riva in her departure failed to seek. This would make her whole - she's only limited, with power, yet limited.

He did have regular eyes then sith eyes. Freaking cool. Love this and hope season 2 does happen. And Ben saying my friend is truly dead. As Luke said then my father is truly dead.