I know, very dramatic title / thumbnail. I wish it wasn't necessary. The changes they made are absolutely mind-blowing. We were holding off judgement until we reached fully juiced maps but the difference is just absurd. Of course we aren't quitting "forever", we would love to come back as soon as possible, as soon as things change for the better. But as it stands no1 in my friend circle is motivated to even log in. What a sad day. I never thought I'd be so let down by a post from Chris himself. Thank you for watching 660+ path of exile highlights, hopefully I can make more in the future. Until then, I'm going to play something else.

I'm an alch-and-go Stream of Consciousness player. I'm super excited that I can now finally farm as efficiently as Empy!

When they say "we playtested it" I see in my head Chris Wilson running trough ledge finding 2 alterations instead of the 1 alteration he found on the same spot last league thinking "man this is double already, this should be fine".

Not a very old fan but i have watched you Empy for a couple years and you have made my day with all the dumb, fun, dramatic and memy things you offered us from a single game. I never thought it would come to this, keep your head up and don't lose motivation!

A couple years ago, without any thought but an open, happy heart, I posted a comment to one of your videos that read "The most important thing is to see you smile." You used it for the outro in the next video. I really meant that, that it's really nice to see someone else, even a perfect stranger, enjoy the game; that your good vibes are infectious; and that you have made the game more fun for many of us over the years. Today I had to see you frown, and that makes me really sad. :(

Thanks for everything Empy & Crew. Your group content made me so excited each league to play PoE. The meme museums, the min maxed builds, the lootsplosions, the league content shenanigans, the group project memes, I'll miss all of it. You've done so much for the community Empy and myself and others can't thank you enough. -Life- Loot isn't fair.

I am also extremely sad over the state of PoE. In the past few years they have done everything they can to delete creativity while making the game "harder." They have introduced more or less mandatory defense mechanics that feels unrewarding to invest into (spell suppression) and increased monster damage and life while nerfing damage across the board. As a result I haven't had a single successful giga meme build in over a year. I miss the old sandbox poe where ideas could carry a build if you did it right. I get the feeling that trying to merge poe with poe2 has been the biggest mistake in this games history. Should have made poe2 its own thing while keeping MTX imho. Nobody I know wants this "new" PoE.

This is crushing. There were many leagues over the span of the past decade where the game just didn't do it for me, but I always enjoyed watching your streams and YT posts, especially your end of league projects with friends, in my down time. In a few leagues it was the only thing that kept me connected to the PoE experience and brought me back for later leagues. Hopefully they recognize the damage they did and find a middle ground, but until that time, I look forward to your new adventures! Keep spreading those good vibes :D

When the 6-man, fully stacked, insanely optimised group gets absolutely shafted by the lack of drops then what chance does the rest of the playerbase have?

Don't blame you one bit. Took 2 days for me to decide to quit as well. I don't want a second job, I wanted to have fun. They took out the fun, turned the game into a job, and expect people to stick around? Lol, no.

Sential: Oh too many drops makes them leave away in just 1 month!! Let's tune this down Lake of Kalandra:Oh no drops makes them leave away in just 1 day!! Let's keep it

I understand how frustrating this was when it happened but I want to let people who come across this video now like how I did again, poe is back to a pretty good state. Even this league, affliction, has been the most profitable league for empy and his group. Rough patches happen but Poe is still worth getting into today

Never thought I would see one of the most positive and fun streamers be so down about what he's been enjoying for years. Keep your head up Mr Streamer!

People are flaming the crap out of GGG on the forums, and I feel like they deserve quite a bit of the shit they get. Yes we would never achieve the kind of absurd amount of stuff Empy and the 5 man group were getting, but jeez, if they can't get anything out of something juiced to the roof, well you can bet your liver you will get jack shit out of your maps.

I asked Empyrian on stream to compare the rewards in a stash tab with previous leagues, and the result speaks for itself. Really good content, ty!

Man, you CAN provide a possitive environment for people to chill. And you will do this. It's not about the game, we come here for you man. Just be yourself and play whatever, we will be here for you. Things will be better, just keep being you.

This whole league deserves to be in the meme museum

The contrast in the ambiance and voices between the opening clips and the current rift says it all. It's not even upsetting, just sad.. Thankfully there are other games around but this really sucks.

Gratz to 100k Empy, looking forward for more content you enjoy. Dont´t force yourself to sth. which does not make fun or sense. We love you anyways.

lil bit of topic but, 4:07 any links to that hideout?

their "vision" for the game is just a shield for when they make bad decisions and don't want to backtrack on them because it makes them look bad. As soon as developers start shadow patching nerfs you have a problem, look at BHVR and Dead by Daylight.

Used to love poe, skipped last lesgue and this one. I wish we had more alternatives in arpg gaming world.

Yooo grats on the 100k my guy !

how much currency did you actually invest into the map at 6:30 ? just roughly, to get an idea

Currently debating after 10 years of playing this game do I even want to keep going either.

a sad day, indeed

Mad respect for you and the crew. Even if it’s not Path, I look forward to whatever comes next!

just started to play the game, how this went? they increased the loot back later on?

I have played since closed beta and this is by far the saddest I have been thinking about the future of PoE. I usually give GGG the benefit of the doubt, but now I am at a loss for words. 20k+ hours logged in HC over the years and I am already done on Day 3...

Best part of the league is watching you guys farm, I play SSF so it’s like seeing a different game. The team and banta is great and excellent viewing. If you are doing something else I hope it’s you all playing together

Did you maybe put those quantity reducing jewels like in that test for loot 2.0 a couple of years back lol

Last league was the first league I ever farmed a full mirror with a very minmaxed Int-Stacker build (not the 300mil dps mirror tier wand+squire 10link stuff, but a regular one with like 100mil dps) which literally cost me like 2-3 mirrors worth of exalts too. I had so much fun that league and sentinels, played like 6-8 hours every day til the end of the league. That last time I had so much fun and playtime was in ritual league. And then the sad nem3 and fractured map nerfs incident happend. I read the patchnotes for lake of kalandra and thought, that it would be fine, the exalt-divine change would be a little hard, because there is only one divine card and no shards for divines(and ex shards were big. Running a rusted harbi scarab, and occasionally a gilded one when you hit the sextant, yielded so many passively generated ex, more than solo farming for some cards without a high investment). I was excited for a new economy and how items would be priced. The league started, i hate leveling, but i pulled through, saw the first guys in maps and got scared, no loot, map sustain on the lower end, not even enough alchs to alch and go maps. Now ex are at 7c, thats nearly half the price of the expedition map craft (LUL), so its cheaper to slam maps than use the map device. I'm always following your streams at the start of the league, because your group is always an inspiration for me to "adept" your strategies as a solo player, with lower investment, but still good income and seeing you so disappointed was really sad and it kinda killed my mood for the league as well. Tried some juice things in standard, and getting like nothing is soo fucking bad. I can understand, that ggg wants to slow down the game for poe2 and it got out of hand over the last years, but why are they always introducing speed clear leagues, when they want to slow down the game. It all started in 3.0 with abyss. To slow to kill? No chest or depth. Legion, no time to clear 3 screens in 10 seconds? No loot for you. Delirium, run b1tch or you wont even get a scroll. They made the playerplase to adapt to all their mechanics with speedclear builds, they basically formed their playerbase to play fast and efficent. And now, without any communication that they reduced the loot to like 5% will crack up the community, with only the real hardcore fans being still in the game. I cant imagine how the game feels for a casual or midtier player, who normally wouldnt farm at least 2-3 exalts (divine) per hour. They dont get gear, they cant progress in the atlas and they cant even make a small amount of currency to at least trade for some basic items for their build.. Sad times. I hope that you will find something else in the meantime, and when youre back to poe, I will be lurking.

GGG's heard people complaining about the 1% players that have all the money all the gear and make more in one map than some will make in a leauge. They addressed those concerns by making endgame so unbearably unrewarding that the 1% players refuse to play it

I'm a casual that only really got back into it since 3.17. the altas changes made so much sense It was easy to get into the game as a new player. I don't know what they did, but even as a casual with a noob SSF traps build I was averaging 7 maps return per map, and that's on just single alch'd maps nothing else i didn't even know what scarabs or frags did! it felt great and addictive to be able to run a ton a maps knowing i would not get starved and could search for gear. WTF did they do? I refuse to believe it was tested. For you guys at the very top to get screwed bad is one thing, but the down stream effect to us casuals is just as bad, I can't even afford to alch a map! whats the point? where's the fun gone? EDIT: whatever they changed in patch "f" has made it much better btw it feels good again.

Feels bad to see you sad, your content is what helped me through tough times. PoE seems fine to me as somewhat casual player, since I can't really play more than few hours a day and don't see much difference in loot etc. See you in other games, because I don't think anyone here is for PoE, but probably for you.

Congrats on 100k Empy!🎆

Watching the slow trainwreck of POE by a constantly disconnected dev team hurts me so deeply, it was my favorite game for so many years. No other ARPG could even come close to being a POE killer so GGG went and killed it on their own. I quit playing POE a long time ago but watching your content was still always so much fun. I hope you find other fun games to play.

You guys just like to complain about everything, Didn't you ask us to fix the lag in juiced maps ? well, there is no lag when you don't drop anything 5head. -Chris Wolcen.

Last league was def one of the most enjoyable to me due to recombinator's. I ended up making an item worth close to a mirror because of it, don't think I'll ever have the same experience again.

Did the popular builds got nerfed from the last 2 leages or they did not touch it at all?

Its actually sad to hear you guys be so demotivated, ive always had a blast watching you guys blasting for the first week. Hope it gets better.

I never comment on videos ever but just wanted to say thanks for content. It was so fun to see PoE pushed to its absolute max and all of the meme museums made along to way.

Kinda sad to see you so down. I don’t play anymore but I always watch all the vids because of the positive vibes, insane crafting sessions and end-league projects. I am sure GGG will come to their senses though. GL Empy

What game will u be playing?

This video hit hard. As an SSF player my experience can feel very isolated at times. Didn't fully understand how bad shut was overall. Really hope GGG responds asap

Thanks for all the content man. Watching you guys every league start was always a blast. Sad to see the current state of the game. Hope we can see you guys play something else. Maybe it is D3 time again for the memes.

Thanks man we needed someone like you to speak about this out and loud.

i've seen people talking about POE moving towards POE2 is that a thing/issue or how do you think ?

"get your magic find characters ready" LOLW

If they give you a ban in this league, you have to complain for the other one, the same does not happen

why did they feel the need to nerf the lootdrop rate anyway? was there a problem with it im not aware of?

This was a very emotional video. You can see and hear how much these decisions impacted all of you. I hope you guys can find something else that is just as fun to you. Much love

I used to love this game, im from South America and i learned english only to can play this wonderfull game with this amazin server and helpfull. But league after league they just say one thing to us: They don't like us! everythig that we found and start to have fun, they found a way to destroy it. every fun build, every fun farm, every crazy method, ALL. they dont let us play with NOTHING. they dont like we play the way we want. they try to oppress us to do what THEY want we play. Im leaving too, because this time they destroy EVERYTHING. we dont drop ex, we dont drop cards, we dont drop NOTHING. We just cant play. and they are just ignoring everybody. because they want we play with what their way. THANKKS EMPY, SNAP, RASMUS, INDEED, EVERYBODY. You made me have fun for years, and every league. even being terrible in this game. I TRY AGAIN. learning with you and others streams, and enjoying. really thanks for all. i hope you back someday and maybe i back too. but all my friends leaved, my favorite streamers leaved. what im gonna do alone here? without friends. without itens. in a game that they Apparently dont care about us. im fine! goodbye PoE!

Wow. You can't get any more clear than that. Greatly appreciate pushing the endgame and doing emp[yri]cal apples-to-apples experiments to show GGG what's what.

Totally agree with your take. Thanks for taking the time to compile it all.

Thats shortest league i've played. Thanks for the amazing content you guys did through the years. Let's find another good game where you can have fun.

:( Keep your head up brother. I feel for the main content creators that do this for a living the most. Especially those that aren't varienty PoE Casuals like yourself. If you need anything I'm here brother ♥

I also quit this league. Feeling sad and empty inside. Your POE content and streams was always bringing me joy. Fuck that game in its current state. I also wonder what Ziggy going to ask next league reveal… Same, polished questions, and not address the shit show?

Was this ever fixed? Im assuming so but havent heard much about this

you're still playing tho?

Thank you for all the hard work. I'm a console player. Watching you and your friends really helped me in the past learn how to play high end content an super juiced maps. An how to have a ton of fun doing it. Your videos really inspired me. An kept me excited to play more. It's a sad day for all of us. I don't even think I'll try in two day when we get the update....

This is so depressing and dissapointing , everyone i watch is eithe unhappy with the state of the league or quitting and i understand why cause i quit too , i watched your highlights since harvest sad to see it go like this i hope they fix it and make you guys come back and enjoy the game again

Oh man I feel you guys! It's so sad to see you crushed like this..

I came across with your work on ultimatum league (with all the crap that happened there) and since that I grew respect for you and the crew you play along. I've learned a lot here and 13min17sec is truly sad :/ I just hope they will revert some of this shit

WAHHH I CAN'T FULL GROUP ANYMORE AND GET FULLY GEARED UP IN A COUPLE DAYS :(

Damn, I wish I had discovered ya'll leagues ago. Those old clips were great and I would've loved to have known even a bit about juicing methods. Here's hoping GGG does something positive.

You know... even as a veteran that has been playing since early open beta and I could finally come back to PoE after 5 leagues, I was having issues killing some rares in the campaign and I did think maybe my damage and HP were bad cause leveling poorly. Glad to know the pros did the math for me and yup, I agree. It looks terrible.

I knew something was wrong when I got through the acts and started mapping and only had 3 chance orbs. I seriously couldn't afford 2 Kirac maps to start mapping and only got one map in the acts. It was a really rough start lol i had to sell almost everything I had just to get going.

I'm starting to get the feeling that some things got nerfed to stop currency farmers 🤔

Love you Empy and I'll keep watching you even if the PoE is no more. Wish you all the best luck in the future! It's hard times for everyone who was invested into the game, but we still love you.

did they do this to combat rmt

Seen the game change a lot over the years, been playing since it’s debut Just have to weather the changes and hang on till things get better

It's unrealistic to think 1 alva should drop 100+ uniques. Yes, GGG didn't adjust drops till now, but thinking loot should stay the old way is silly. The question is how many uniques should it drop fully juiced? I think everything agrees it shouldn't be 100. Some would say 50? Some would say 10? It's currently 1-3 using an extremely strict filter. Would a 300% buff make you happy? because going back to 100 isn't viable IMO.

More streamers should follow your lead.

I was struggling on getting wisdom scrolls on maps even ngl kept running out

The playthrough clips, with the look on Empy's face, are the most depressing things I've seen in a while. The look of utter defeat and a realization that spending as much time as was spent to rush to this level and see no rewards is... crushing.

the worst part is people are defending this and overlooking the fact a major part of the game was stealth changed

thanks for this kind of negative coverage from a HUGE fucking streamer in the community. it's really important big names speak up and not just people like me on reddit about how fucking horrible so many changes to the game are especially in the wake of chris's awful response to all the criticisms and frustrations. I'd really like all the big streamers to just acknowledge all the fucking awful antifun anti casual, and even anti 1% juicer changes and express in whatever way they can (some people cant quit cuz its their entire job) some amount of serious negativity about it.

Dude i hate to see it and hope they come around fast, you always made me smile. Thanks for that.

I posted in one of Snap's videos at the beginning of the league that I wasn't optimistic about the shift to Divine and while I was expecting a rough economy, this wasn't precisely what I meant but nonetheless it's very disappointing to see this. Whether it be the top end of competitive PoE in the form of players such as Ben choosing to just stop playing or group players such as Empyrian, Snap, etc. I hope that this is fixed swiftly and if not, it was fun while it lasted. Good luck guys.

no mirrors during first week and instant quit :/

This is such a sad league. Hopefully people still save up some goofy items for a meme museum, but that requires items actually dropping and people playing. Thanks Chris Wolcen. You win

Broken expectations hurt more than bad loot and even more if you have worked hard to get there. We all struggle so much I almost feel bad suggensting to even think of a positive aspect. But yeah, after a real rage phase yesterday I now see it as a challenge to work myself up to gear with chaos recipe in white maps while praying to GGG they do something about loot and rare mob mods ASAP.

Excited for you to make content about path of exile 2 or diablo iv in the future!

I am so sorry empy. I love you guys. I love the memes and fun you bring to the game. I am so saddened by this change. I can hear the anger in your guys voices. I wish there was a way for us to get togther and tell GGG enough is enough.

The best part about a new league is watching your group's loot explosion everytime you exit a temple waiting for something expensive to drop. I guess we will see you guys again when GGG fixes this, if they ever do that...

I was hoping to finally get back into PoE after few years break from serious farming, barely reached maps did some white/yellow and already felt like I wasn't able to drop anything that will fuel the alch&go further down the atlas, but I was thinking sure I'm just starting. After I saw your experience yesterday, and other content creators I'm sure I'm out of PoE for another years, probably will try PoE2 for few hours when it is released someday. GGG always had issues with gameplay design, nice ideas for mechanics implemented poorly, but fixed week or two into the league. THESE are not fixable/adjustable league ideas.

Did you press ALT to see if your loot filter was broken?

They fixed their game actually. Its more for casual players like myself now. I made about 30 divs + my gear in the weeks that I actually played the league. I got my first level 100 and I am up to 38 league challenges. I usually quit around 5-7 challenges. This have been the best "new start" for me in the game in years. I hope ggg dont listen to you whiney wankrs when they drop 4.0.

When you understand that you play completely different game now, one time in your entire life playing poe you understand one thing about 3.19 "If you feel uncomfortable in any aspect of the game - then its not okay" previously in Ultimatum they nerfed bb/bf, toxic and bv ones again. In addition Harvest, and im not being this much upset than i was now. GGG made a good game in past - for some reason started from harvest they tried their best on ruining this game completely... Did they lost their fire? Burned out? Or there is some boss that have a Vision? And I'm not talking about Chris, since for me he looks like face&voice right now, nothing more(

I would be ok with less loot like it is right now if the stats on item would have statrolls around the ilvl of the item, also there are to few uniques.

Wildest thing is that they didn't even mention loot nerfs before in the patch notes. That's absolutely crazy. The untransparency.

EVERYONE is with you. I dont think I've seen a single person with experience in the game defend GGG on this matter. Everyone I know has quit as well and will wait for a few patches of fixes(we know 1 patch wont be enough) before coming back. Gonna Play D3 this weekend I guess, sad because I was super excited for this league since I havent played in a while.

It’s insane how bad these changes are. Not sure why developers feel the need to implement things they “think” the community needs or wants but then they end up getting feedback on how much of a dumpster fire it was. The transition from exalts to divine orbs is terrible, harvest changes are terrible, beyond is terrible. Wonder what else they’ll fuck up and realize they shouldn’t have messed with it. Godspeed Empy.

How much IIR/IIQ was this with?

What are you guys gonna juice on now or in the meantime?

I like the loot changes. I like this league experience overall. I rly enjoy playing.

I quit myself few leagues ago. The fun builds got ruined. The fun chase uniques got nerfed. The playstyle moved more towards hardcore. It's their "vision" but it's also killing their game. Good luck to them.

tldr on what they changed in this league/patch?

Love your vids POE or not! Hopefully its only a matter of time until they fix things with all the backlash they are getting. Keep up the awesome content!