GGG: "we're trying to save you from having to click too much!" *proceeds to summon a harvest mob with so much health, I have to click my skill 1000 times to kill it*

Yeah the archnemesis mobs are too hard, but I agree with Asmon, difficulty in and of itself isn't a problem, unrewarding difficulty is a huge problem.

"They optimize the fun out of everything, and they have fun doing it." God I loved this game.

Thanks for being the voice for casual players. You were spot-on with several of your observations; especially designing the game around the top 1% versus the rest of the player-base.

I’ve been having fun with poe but it’s prolly because I have no idea what I’m doing and just using skills that look cool

Ghazzy is one of the most composed and levelheaded people I’ve seen play the game. In 100’s of hours of streaming I’ve never seen him loose his temper. That’s when you know it’s bad!

28:45 its like M+ affixes. I know a lot of casual players who liked doing m+ dungeons but skipped certain weeks, because the affixes were to much trouble to deal with. Now imagine Blizz made every mob in WoW randomly role some of these affixes. Suddenly you die farming leather or the ore you were trying to mine just rolled explosive on it and killed you... Its only a fun concept if you can deal with it. Also in PoE your builds are pretty limited. Its like running a frost mage but mobs have a chance of negating 95% of your damage. Sure you could go back to town, spec fire and try to kill the mob, but what do you do if the mob after that rolls fire immunity? Also speccing fire means grinding new gear for 3 hours or rerolling entirely

From my on and off experiences, the builds have always been limited the further you progressed. It'll start off with infinite amount of builds, then down to 20, then 10, then 5, then everyone needs the same gear. A bit of an exaggerated example, but its always felt like this for past 2 years.

15% aura reservation nerf? Ok sure I get it Defiance Banner nerf? Alright… Unique changes? Would’ve been nice to have more details so some builds aren’t screwed. Divine Orb change? Concepts good but what about shards?? Div cards??! Harvest change? Hello did anyone test this? Archnemesis rebalance #10? Can we stop? And finally, the loot multiplier.

After being somewhat depressed about my experience with this league, watching this video has made me laugh and feel much better. Asmon just has a way to make anything funny.

The game is already so overlycomplicated that many players drop the game before having even close to a stable build, when that isn't destroyed in the next update wasting all of your resources spent on it. Now even the hardcore players are being stomped by rare mobs and having trouble farming anything. The game is annoying for new players. The game is annoying for intermediate players. The game is annoying for casual players. The game is annoying for hardcore players. But lootboxes. At this rate, it will sink to Diablo standards.

I liked PoE a lot, it always felt like what Diablo 3 should've been. The problem I ran into is that I don't like throwing away my character(s) every 3 or 4 months. That's just not really for me. Especially since the 10 acts are kind of interesting the first time. Maybe the second time. But not very interesting the 15th time. Everyone knows people just want to get to the maps and whatever stuff is considered the actual game. So it seems odd that it's still just: New season, create your character, wash up on a beach, ResidentSleeper through 10 acts you've seen dozens or hundreds of times. Or if you want a new build: wash up on a beach.... If there were perhaps some branching or choices in the story that could help to a certain extent I suppose. But really you're just paying a "oh you want to try a new build" tax of having to watch the exact same show again - only maybe this time you're knitting while watching it instead of drawing. For a lot of folks it's no big deal, but for me I found that the PoE paradigm doesn't fit me so well. Which is too bad because I like many of the systems in the game and overall PoE is what Diablo wishes it could be.

Being a POE player since beta, i never felt that the game was this further away from being fun, i think GGG took themselves too seriously and forgot about the fact that they are a company who makes a video Game, games are supposed to be fun and entertaining. if i wanted to have an IRL experience inside a game, i'd just pass time IRL instead. Every league after 3.13 is just wave after wave of fun removal, i think they are going in the same road wow went to, which is being out of touch with their game and not knowing what makes it fun for their playerbase. It's the first time i lose interest in poe after 2 days of playing and the sad part is that i'm not even excited for POE 2 anymore if this is the vision they are going for.

GGG is having the same issue you've mentioned with Blizzard for quite a while - they are obsessed with nerfing fun. Ritual league is considered by most to be one of if not the most FUN league's ever made. The more GGG gets obsessed with "their vision" of the game, the more fun they seem to remove. It's making me start to wonder if Ritual league was just a happy accident as opposed to something they did intentionally.

The problem with AN is their modifiers. Last league I was facing a double essence bear. It had 3 AN mods, it had all Res with ailment immunity, Phys reduction with chance to block, and passive and active healing. I had to split them apart, and spend 10 minutes on each to kick their pants. As a comparison Uber Uber shaper took me a total of 13 minutes to kill. A boss that has around 50 times more life than a normal rare, with 70% reduced damage taken was faster to kill than 2 random bears. How come? Each essence have an implicit modifier to their health, each AN mod have an implicit modifier to their health, all of them are multiplicative. So let us say that essences are twice as much, each AN modifier is twice as much. It had more than 3 essences, and it had 3 AN mods. Farric gargantuan at lvl 84 have 158,828 life. As a map mod I had 1.6 times more life, normally that is fine since it does not normally multiply with millions of HP, since that is not normal. 16.236 million HP each. With 80 res, and 50 Phys reduction, and 50% chance to block my hits, and passive and active healing. That active healing is based of the HP of the monster 20%, in a rather large AOE. They instant healed eachother for multiple minutes before I managed to split them apart. As I said the problem with AN is the combination of mods. I had a guy who survived every single one shot mechanic in the game, i even made a guy that literally took 0 damage from every single one shot mechanic in the game, he gets killed by random AN modifiers. -_- just gone on the spot. No only should they not be more beefy than the uber Uber version of the bosses of the game, but they should also not be allowed to deal more damage than literal slow one shot mechanics that is made to be dodgeable.

Around 23:30 that talk about Ultimatum league, for reference, by the end of act 6, together with a friend, we managed to gather 5 exalted orbs. By the end of act 10, we had enough to get stuff that'd get us BOTH to tier 13+ atlas maps. We were pretty slow so it took us a few more hours than most good players would find necessary, but still. I then spent most of the league trying things left and right, playing on multiple characters to find exactly what I'd enjoy the most, because I was drowning in high tier currencies. Last few leagues, after over 80 hours, I could barely afford my gear to deal with Atziri, and even then, essence monsters, especially corrutped ones, *JUST WOULDN'T DIE.* Normally I'd just run them over, they'd maybe hold a few more seconds than most normal or magic mobs, sometimes even a bit longer than classic rares. In Lake of Kalandra tho, they would just tank *several MINUTES* of continuous brutality, all while hitting for 80% of my effective hit pool with only defensive mods, and guess what ? If I were to die to them at any point, they'd most likely be back to full health by the time I'd be back, even with a portal in a safe but nearby location. In comparison, 5 minutes earlier, the same character face-tanked *Ghorr, the Grasping Maw* one of scourge league bosses, killing him in basically 2 minutes. *Pure Insanity.*

I think the game the Devs want, and what the players want, are vastly different.

Dude when you took out your trash to describe the loots, you made me howl with laughter (thanks, I know very little about the game)

Played crucible hard for a week. Stopped playing because it's far too complicated to be viable end game unless you follow specific guides to a tee. There's far too many systems to try to keep track of.

I would agree with you that better rewards would make arch nemesis better, but they would need to be less common. Instead of being part of the entire rare pool they should have their own smaller chance to spawn, or they should be built into optional content / map modifiers. You should be able to avoid dealing with them if you choose, but WANT to fight them because of the rewards.

Players: Why are the blizzard devs so disconnected from the community? GGG: Hold my beer

Quite a fair ensemble of the current feeling of the league. Personally Steelmage is really close to my own thoughts of the current state of things. It really feels like all of the things that we learned to use and rely on have been gutted with no replacement. The biggest issue: they nerfed loot drops upward of 80% and felt that it DIDN'T WARRENT A PATCH NOTE. Unacceptable.

The thing that made me start to question some design choices is that this league, I went for a minion based build, and occultist was clearly the better choice than necromancer just because of how overpowered this stupid ascendancy is. I mean it's fun to play, but I would love to play anything other than occultist once in a while.

I love how asmond in his weird way somehow makes explanations understandableXD. But yeah, right now every 10 rare mob i meet is unkillable or the mobs can one shot you.

been playing since 2013 beta...PoE was a lot of fun in the beginning, it was difficult with a much longer learning curve than typical ARPG's but the variety and level of customization was unreal. But years and years after leagues I find that PoE has lost its soul. It's too much of a time sink and becomes very repetitive with the constant resets, nerfs and non-stop "re-balancing" making your old build obsolete so you gotta go grind out again for levels, gear while learning all the new changes to skills, mechanics, etc. I think GGG lost their direction with this game years ago.

10:20 as someone who has never played poe, thank you for the clear example of the loot

me: *starts a new game and has a lot of fun with it* my youtube feed literally the next day:

Archnemisis league was pretty oke because you could control what kind of buffs/debuffs you wanted to throw on the monster now you get monsters who're so op they eat your portals up.

Basically they don't listen to the community, We scream WE DONT LIKE ARCHNEMESIS ITS NOT REWARDING ITS NOT ENGAGING ITS NOT FUN ITS JUST ANNOYING! soooo GGG say oh? WE BUFFING ARCHNEMESIS we are making it harder and more challenging :D have fun guys!

Empy's group (and other groups) basically trailblazes every league and generate enough currency to retire earlier. They also establish a healthy trading circuit that trickles down to the small fish, so in the end, everyone wins. Not this time, tho. The change of value in currency (Divine being the premium currency) is also weird as all hell. We have no established ways of farming for divines with Divination Cards. Exalts are down to 10c each, and while it's good to actually use them for semi-serious crafting, as they're way more accessible, Divine Orbs are WAY more useful for the casual player. That also kills Timeless Jewel rerolling. It's weird, for real.

It only took more than half a decade for known streamers to say what many of us have been saying for many, many years - their way of balancing around the top end has been terrible for everyone else (and the worst part is it doesn't have to be so - you can balance with the high end in mind would screwing everyone else up).

They didn't make minions bad, they made minions nonexistent. Usually minions are one of the top leaguestarters, and currently nobody is playing them. The only viable minion skills are absolution (because dps/you resummon them by attacking) and summon raging spirits that explode on low life. On top of the general minion changes they made, they also nerfed minions skills that were considered bad.

Also worth noting that Ghazzy, the minion dude, is as chill as they get, past league 2 weeks in some noob deleted a 2 mirrors worth item he and friends worked on since the beginning and he just said "Well, sometimes happens. . ." This was the first time many fellow streamers and viewers saw him shout in anger/despair. [Context 1 Mirror = 400+ Exalts = 60k+ Chaos]

GGG, you either die a hero, or live long enough to become Activision Blizzard.

loved this game, really did. if I could go back and replay legacy, breach, or some other older league I'd do it in a heartbeat. even something like abyss. private servers never :(

In my opinion, when they removed any way to target farm (and stated they did not like being able to target farm anything) items is when they began to remove the fun out of the game. Back in the day even if you don't get anything from your bosses/loot, at least you can fall back on a div card farm, or SOMETHING to make ends meet, but now it seems there is nothing.. also removing the ULTIMATE high ceiling goals of HH and explosion chests, and your hard work just feels like it has much less in return.

I have played the game a decent amount, but I quit about a year ago after they decided to make it harder to get usable items. It becomes impossible for anyone who doesn't spend a horrific amount of time playing to actually progress through the game. Harvest should have never been nerfed the way it was, it was a huge QoL improvement for people who could spend 2 hours a night on the game, and they gutted it to the point of being useless.

The idea that what empy's group was doing(and several other groups as well) was bad for the economy is quite weird to me. Yes, they were printing currency and they were also printing divination cards and unique items. The thing is: You cant craft gear, wich fundamentaly the most important part of poe, without a reasonably cheap and constant supply of said currency. Also, there is A LOT less uniques in circulation, spiking the price of the ones on the market quite ridiculously and since you cant turn in divination cards for some specific unique items(the divs are not dropping), that is also not an option. Groups like empy's provided ALL OF THE ABOVE mentioned aspects of early league(day 1-7). Look at poe economy before/after the nerf and the fact that every single 6 man party has left the game at this point. This whole situation is just...weird. The nerfs, the people leaving, the bad taste some(most I assume) get from just oppening the game. Ps: currency in poe is not credit, its not a representation of a good. Currency in poe is the good itself. You can stash it, you can use it to buy stuff, but primarly you WILL use it to craft gear and sustain your farming.

They should increase the drops of CO and even EX including before mapping. But on the flip side, lower drop rates of uniques. This way, you would have more currency available for modding but if you wanted to buy a unique it would be more expensive and thus would help control the market better and stop people false posting.

"We find that these sorts of problems work themselves out naturally" great quote, great movie lol

Ah the bosses being weaker than mobs should not be a thing, that sounds like a mistake

Archnemesis mobs do not kill you. What kills you is the bs effects, explosions and flying balls of death that accompany every rare mob.

I've been opening the game from time to time, giving it another chance, trying to drop some good currency and - who knows... - maybe progress in the game, upgrading my equipments so I could be less squishy and able to handle red maps comfortably. But it just doesn't happen.. you can play 10~15 alch and go yellow maps and you'll make 10c max. If you are really lucky you'll be able to drops one or two logbooks from expedition and you'll sell it for 20~40c each, since you're not tanky enough to run it. It is just sad.

around a few years ago as they continually added content it was clear they got increasingly punishing towards casual players, or players that also played other games/genre. Ultimatum was a nice comeback/league reason to play. Esp with friends/party good synergy/cc dots and curses and utility alts or dps mains when soloing. MoM or arcmage was a peak of casting and that got pretty nurfed as the game transitioned into stacking pure mitigation elements and raising/accessing max res echelon for actual end game as well as + skill among your upgrades or additive buffs. You generally hit said wall before noted upgrades become seemingly impossible to most players, SSF had crafting/harvest as well which made it more viable to being able to min/max as a casual/low uptime player. No endless ledge/race leagues either was a major let down to being able to get points/high ranks in races since they were per/class. Get demigods gear sell it in temp league for effectivly being able to fund any FOTM build you saw into league....at an almost immediate "pull" from remove only tab. Equating to being able to invest in being a racer if you couldnt play major in game hours as a way to access....at times "ANY TIME" bc of the remove only aspect with those items....to fund any build, or make a character that was specific to a single or 2 game mechanics. Like for delving when it was lucrative, or a QOTP mf bow every time you leveled a bow char into 90s before respeccing into a dot build or something else on that char/ascendency, and just led public 6 mans for extra juice. Theyve gutted various aspects the majority of players/avg players looked forward to doing/accessing in the game on a per league basis. That it even made the game unrewarding even when played limited/casually. If not largely punishing. But as a gamer you shouldnt expect anything and ive been playing casually just to see the game again from time to time. Im actually surprised to see how bad the games become even for content creators/diehards. I mean projectPT left the game in an ugly way and had his love/hate relationship. Seeing the game in this state you realize he wasnt the only one that was going to have this reaction as they realize the void in their life POE apparently fulfilled. I played my fair share of supid builds chaos pizza one of my favorites full chaos w saffels, swap for binos in off for clear. Every iteration of MOM, A few RF builds prior to the multi-link helm+max res shield/tree/jewel meta of today. Still it was nice seeing how each implementation of content/tree furthered the game/builds/playstyle and pace of the game. As i became a casual/quit of course we jump to wonder the intent of poe2 with GGG stern hatred with "game content trivialization" Its always going to be a clear speed or boss/juice clear meta, the crafting has evolved since beta and has had its peaks/league mechanics for sure. So idk what can be drawn from these reactions by players/community based on the fact that POES future is no doubt going to be POE2...and we have to ask ourselves what kind of methodology/game play GGG will try to implement as "IDEAL". If that even coincides with your concept of endgame/content or something you want to play to generate/trade currency or its SSF elements. Including their/10cents intent on a mobile game. IMO the ceiling is Diablo 4...bc if it flops heavily or etc...fails to meet expectations; while not deliveirng as a game/platform itself...GGG has a much lower bar to aim for. I used to think you could give these ppl a lot of credit or have hype etc, but we basically have to hope D4 kills it so GGG has no choice but to really put effort/polish into being able to offer a wide/option/viability to an end game user experience or a reason to invest X/thousand of hours into the game for x reason.

14:49 There are different types of boxes have bonuses for different types of loot. Arcanist boxes drop bonus *Currency* items. This Arcanist box dropped no currency.

My personal issue with their choices in recent years was the global drops with uniques. Thematically relevant drops, league-specific items, cool doodads you could target farm have been plastered into the global drop pool: now everything you drop is like opening a card pack from an ENTIRE TCG, while before it was specific expansions and sets of cards with their own specific drop pools. Wow I found a thing that's extremely rare - and good (mostly not the case). I didn't look for it, I didn't do anything specific, just the same action as the last 1000's. I dropped a Squire in Archnem, from a random white mob. I was happy- BUT I was much happier beating The Exarch and getting a rare Forbidden Flame. Cause you know you can only get those from that- now it's a lot rarer, and most of them are shit even if you do drop any - AND it's more common behind a UBER version, I get the idea, harder content better rewards, but I relatively SUCK at the game, only league I got to the Feared (lost) was archnem, and it's from there that I dropped BIG 100's of Ex in value stuff that I could sell, craft my gear (If I were a good player I'd have probably gotten even better gear at a fraction of the price, turned 100 ex into a 1000 over time, but I'm not, I suck - and I still played the league FOR 3 MONTHS total) Just. Wish player power wasn't this gated just because the 0.1% can do and much more in 2 days what I can barely in 3 months.

I have been depressed with PoE for a long time. I started playing around 3-4 years ago. In the first few years I played this game it felt fine, sicne I was new and still learning about the game. A year or two ago I started to get tierd of playing and started getting really depressed, but still kept up somewhat with the game. Every league at the start of it felt exciting, but would always dissapoint. This legue felt the same, almost more promising than others... But afer playing for a couple of days, it felt really depressing to play, I had pocked a build that has high health and demage, but I kept dieing from random non-boss mobs. I looked up the problem and it led me to this video, I feel really depressed about PoE current sate, and I think a lot of people feel the same. Me and my partner always play PoE, almost every league, but this legue in purticular has made me and my pertner feel like total shit, the builds we always play are totaly nerfed, and there is no drop... I'm sorry for the rant, just stating my opinion on this league.

Ultimatum was by far my favourite league recently. Insane risk for insane reward. It did really limit the builds you could do though. Basically giga clear or nothing, but to be fair, every single starter build in the game is designed to giga clear so that's not a big deal. I remember in my first 3 ultimatums, one of the completed ones gave me a tabular. THAT should be the default experience of PoE imo. Insanely useful items for the point of the game you are playing and difficulty of challenges you are defeating.

"The game requires a certain level of currency to be playable." THIS! on so many levels. I have never understood GGG's approach on this. A played should never run out of maps; or the base currency to alch and go it IS the base of end game progression. Forget about the fun and loot explosions we need as ARPG players. The game (especially mapping+) is mechanically broken with out a certain level of drops.

This year I tried to spend my currency and harvests on crafting instead of trading which made every achievement way more gratifying. They made the currency and items rarer and more expensive and combined with the archnemesis modes makes the grind insane. I don't have the time nor do I think the game will be as fun, if they don't fix these issues it will be the end for me

Havent played POE in years and recently got the itch to check it out again and boy did I pick a bad time for that lol I was gunna make a fresh character but sounds like it even effects early game too. Is it even worth it or should i just wait a lil for it to hopefully be fixed?

I started playing POE recently, first time through after years of Diablo. I'm currently in ACT 10 and have no idea what's going on for the most part, just killing things for my quests. I think my passive tree spec is doing well, but I have tons of crap I don't know what to do with. The story is soooo long it's almost impossible to follow or listen to or I'd be waiting 20mins each time I talk to someone or find a new storyline in the world. There is WAY too may systems to try and understand, so I just plowed through the MSQ and skipped half of the alternate stuff because I can't figure out what to do or what the systems does. For example, the interrogation stuff, what does it do? Why do I need it? I don't want to go to YT to have to understand this game. At this point it's becoming boring because there is NO direction from the game on how things work together. They need to add more instruction or directions in game for new/casual players.

They need to tie loot multipliers to the mods. If a mob spawns with bonus hp, which means it’s going to take longer to kill, it needs to drop more loot to make up for the extra time it took. They haven’t done that. So you have this horrible situation of increased difficulty, with reduced loot. Why would you even bother.

As an indie game developer with 25 years of experience, here are my thoughts for improving the archnemesis mechanic: 1) Reduce the spawn rate to, at most, once a map. Preferably once every few maps as they tend to be more time consuming than map bosses. This will make them feel extra special whenever you encounter them. 2) Give them their own unique category and color (maybe a green border?) and then bring back regular rare mobs. Again, trying to make these encounters feel special and uncommon (kinda like the rogue exiles, but better) 3) Assign a loot multiplier per random modifier they get. For instance, maybe tier 1 difficulty mod adds 2.5x the loot quantity and quality per mod, but a tier 3 difficulty mod adds 20x the loot quantity and quality per that difficulty of mod. With these changes, they'd not only feel special when you encounter them, but once you learn the loot table you can gauge if they're even worth fighting, thus making them rewarding for noobs and pros alike.

So on top of EVERYTHING WRONG with this league, the devs have refused for YEARS to fix the crashing issue on console, which means that you cant level because each death is 10% gone (in second half + endgame) and the game crashes every 30 min - hour.

They took away like 90-99% of the fun literally and their 'fix' for the communities complaints is insulting. Matth says it well, "If you get 4 alchemys every 5 maps, now you're getting 5 every 5 maps." Ridiculous. We're missing 99% of our loot and they say its intended.

I had come back to PoE on a whim last league and holy shit, going from RF in Delve to RF in Sentinel was night and day. 7,000 health, 77% resists across the board on T10 maps and I will still get randomly oneshot or I just get a Flameweaver and it takes 2 minutes to kill and drops jack shit. It just started treating it as an XP tax because nothing I did to maximize my tankiness worked. Game has become completely overtuned because GGG made the classic game dev mistake of balancing it around the obsessive poopsock players instead of the other 99.5% of the players.

Everytime you kill a juiced out the ass elite mob and don’t get shit for it, Chris Wilson laughs maniacally in the office.

Can GGG put on nemesis mob just not better loot, but loot that exactly set for your char build / class / used skills? So that we get less random reward, and have some point to fight 3 min with that elite castles.

The other thing (52:00) about the lake is if you have to leave your lake to go sell something in your h/o when you go back in you have to start from the beginning again.

I find it funny that the experience top players get now is pretty much how I felt as a casual player throughout the last 6-7 years of playing the game. I never felt rewarded for doing anything in this game.

Got really emotional finishing the video. I love Poe, it’s the majority of my time spent in college and after graduation, pulls me out of anxiety and shit, the reason I was getting up everyday. Now the disappointment and bitter is.. unbearable. I’m sad that other players and streamers felt the same.

When I played PoE I went in blind because that’s just more fun. I took everything on the tree that I could to make myself a pyromancer, using only fire damage. Eventually I just couldn’t play the game any more, mobs got too strong and my build couldn’t get stronger. I haven’t played PoE since because I learned you have to play one of the meta builds to even exist in the game.

how did we went from this to Exilecon 2023.

Imagine how frustrating it is for a casual player (5h/week). Littrally no craft possible :(

Thats a shame. Its one of the few games with a proper character build system and no P2W nonsense. I drop in and out as a minion player due to my dissatisfaction with how minions are handled but this might just stop me from returning. Resources matter a lot. I also only ever play Hardcore so yeah...

As a poe no-lifer, these are some of the best and most accurate descriptions of poe streamers and the poe player base I've ever heard.

I still remember launch, and damn was it unpleasant, at that time we had things like effigy and invulnerable to deal with too, so near everything you killed had an on death effect or reflect, it was like playing old MW CoD where every mob has martyrdom, the floor was on fire, poisioned, electrified, exploded and was either immune to damage while regenerating or reflected damage and instantly killed you, it has been nerfed about 6 times now and while the 15k players left still are invested most of us are on something fun.

I can’t believe Diablo:Immortal was able to pull them away. D:

"we have made a huge mistake and have heard your concerns. We will fix it this patch, next patch, next league, next year, in PoE 2, in PoE 3."

I'm gonna say that I'm not even trying to max everything I can, I'm a fairly new player who played 2 years ago Poe and i made a warchief totem build, somehow had i everything I needed and was happy with it, that was at PS4, i played yesterday in PC and got killed in act 1 by a gold-named necromancer like 4 time in mud flats, i liked the difficulty but i didn't even have ground slam, i remember i could defeat all of act 1 by myself and be happy, now i have to be cautious of a band of 5 enemies, have to do the right aggro and can't rely on the shitty gear I'm receiving rn, i thought the difficulty of the game was about how you made your playstyle work and how you could make it better.

I've always wanted to give this game a real chance but can never get a grasp to understand building a character and can't find anyone who can help explain things

very good video i agree 100% with you. I have played PoE for a long time so seeing the community this upset is devastating. Even i like that loot gets reduced but not in this way, what i want is less loot but better items. To clarify the type of loot system i want is that all rares is like when talismans was good. The loot 2.0, talismans could roll crazy high tier rolls much more likely then normal rare amulets or gear in general.

I have been playing off and on since Beta. For me what would keep me playing long term would be to add more customizations choices while playing. For instance why is there not an option for auto looting certain currency's? Every single friend that I have tried to get to play the game quit within the first 60 levels because of all the currency clicking. Idk about others but I want to spend time fighting making builds and whopping digital ass. Not clicking on names of items for 50% of my time, this problem is toward mostly newer players or casuals. People that have been playing and got everything memorized can pretty easily skip all things they have no interest in. But anyone else feels like they need to pick up everything because you have no idea what anything's value is. Second thing would be to allow for moving via WASD, click to fight is very off putting for many people. If even just these options were in would bring in a good chunk of people. Sad thing is if anyone post these things in reddit or the forums all the POE tryhards downvote it to hell for no reason other than they don't want other people to enjoy the game.

I have, let's see, 457.3 hours in Path of Exile. I eventually just quit for good in 2021. I hate trading, I am not a very social person, I want to just get some cool drops, build some resistances, and have a fun time. The game is so impenetrably difficult to grasp. It's amazing for people who like trading and people who enjoy theory-crafting, and no one else. Theory-crafting a build was often more fun than playing the game, as a build would eventually fail. The crafting system is so damn obtuse I just could never be bothered to learn it. I just ended up very disappointed every time I got into it. My first thought on seeing the title of this video was "good riddance". Pretty bitter, huh? I'm glad the game exists as eirikeiken is amazing, but his builds are what I'd find fun and the inability to just jump in and get it running is annoying. The fact you can go hours into a build and find out it sucks and not have a way to respec is just really frustrating to play. With all that said, I might return at some point and just take it way less seriously and try to do the stupidest shit possible. P.S. eirikeiken hasn't posted in a year.

also new patch loot is a somewhere between 20% and 70% easier to find

Thank you for bringing this to attention even more and being civil about it.

My biggest issue this league has been gear scarcity, my first build (spectral helix->lightning strike) was having such a hard time getting that was worth a damn or even currency to make something decent I just RR'd to lightning conduit because it was friendlier to stat requirements up into midgame. Even then my lightning conduit build is using gear dropped from acts 7-10 because nothing decent has dropped in maps and currency is scarce.

The clip about Lily is kinda funny because she was fighting a Skeleton. If those AN mods were on a Rhoa, that would've been a bloodbath.

I'm a casual player. They gutted my currency to deal with Empyrean. It's similar to loot drops of very early PoE. But the enemies are by far stronger than back then. Then you could do OK with a 5-link. The amount of grind here is nonsense when leagues take only 3 months. And archnemesis monsters being so many and such damage sponges is dull. It also takes away from the specialness of maps, since the map bosses are paper. It's just the same few modifiers you fight over and over again.

I'm playing in the league rn. It saddens me that the game got to this stage :/ It also saddens me that it actually is so bad that huge content creators and streamers just give up or quit :(

Man this drama is bad enough to make me go for another Grim Dawn Character instead of trying this POE League.

Yep , i finally have to pass by the market to get something for my marauder, i got all stuff and unique for other classes..

they should make tradable harvest token with different tiers but still keep the crafts. b4 u can do like >5 low tier crafts every single map but now 10 maps for 1000 lifeforce and u get like 5 crafts usable lol

I am going to be honest, the difficulty of the archnemisis mobs isn't what concerns me since the game has always been about super clearing with some overtuned build through everything including the bosses like they are a joke, so I love the difficulty spike because it forces the game to be a bit slower. The problem is just this league isn't rewarding across the board, there has been a currency nerf across the board that I could barely facilitate my league starter. That has never happened in POE history, its bad enough that chaos orbs aren't dropping as much or that exalts are nowhere near as good anymore, its that they have slowed the game to a complete halt. I could still complete the 10 acts and do map content but I wouldn't be able to make myself much stronger even with a lot of time invested. Basically the devs have messed up the economy and the general loot of the game while making it just so difficult. Like idk if they even playtested this league before launch, it just feels bad. I thought my build was too weak when I started getting one shot by some yellow enemies, but then I reach the boss of the area and take him out in 3 hits. WTF GGG.

Sad state of the game for sure. I quit during expedition league due to the mana nerfs; it was just plain unfun having to build so heavily around sustaining mana requirements when you're already doing 80% less damage due to cumulative nerfs to every damage link. The issue across POE you touched on briefly is GGG not understanding their community. They have one of the most non-beginner friendly games: which is almost impossible to pick up for newer players. And because of this: newer players in a league miss out of 90% of their game due to such a high knowledge floor. Its a waste of software and programming as majority of the player base do not experience even fighting shaper for example. The other group of players include the theorycrafters, people whom follow theorycrafters or the economics players whom fast grind first 24 hours of a league to generate massive currency ahead of the curve. Nerfing these latter groups not only makes them more unhappy but pushes newer players eveen further away from the game. Grind is not rewarding enough. No power fantasy when you're build finally comes online (as it never does since no damage and no mana to even make your screen pretty). And whats sadder is they are alienating their own dedicated niche player base by not even listening to the feedback from only players that will keep coming back to the game.

so i started playing the game in scourge (thankfully i had a friend to help me out) and loved it, in archnemesis i played a discharge ele, which i had a lot of fun with although it was not amazing and had fallen in love with the game. sentinel was the one i played the most i had 3 lvl 80 chars and could pretty much build anything i felt like (not rly but u get what i mean), but i couldn't push myself to play till t16 maps in kalandra, i mean i has been just... not fun.

I mean Poe was never beginner friendly. But one thing U hav to Love about poe is that ITS the only Game where knowledge can really pay Off espacially in the MMORPG genre.

At the same time, I'm glad I watched this clip and I'm angry with it. I went back to POE after 2 years and a few things didn't suit me but I thought it was because of a break. Now I can see that this is a game problem after all. And I'm angry because I don't know what to do next, especially since I usually play a necromancer...

Alkaizer, love him so much. Those memories of grinding D3 while watching his streams and hating how many legendaries he got

they could tie a mf bonus multiplier to hp of mobs, if a mobs hp reaches x, bonus mf, or a set extra drop included

They've been messing up in really large ways fairly frequently and I think that's a big reason why people are so mad right now. Last league ended up really good, but it started out a mess with the Archnemsis monsters going core. Two leagues ago they when Arch was the league mechanic it started out with a horrible implementation - it was difficult to even interact with it. Four leagues ago was the massive nerf Expedition league where they went way too hard on things that didn't need changed and ended up reverting a good chunk of it. That's 3 of the last 4 leagues that have started abysmally. And some of the stuff they're massively screwing up is very easily noticeable. It's like they're rushing everything and not properly reviewing or testing it. Then throw on top of that the myth of PoE2 that was announced 3 years ago and is still a year away from even announcing a beta. Plus many aging mechanics like the same campaign grind and the same master missions we've had for years and the game feels very stale. And feeling stale when you have a new league every 3 months says something about the state of your game.

Ritual was prime POE!

Sounds like there was a compounding issue with the drops. By their own admission there used to be an unspecified increase in loot drops from league monsters that was greater than 200-300% which is what they replaced it with. They also decreased rares by about 60-80%. Let's say the old buff was 1000% so there is a 700% difference in per monster drops. Well that would mean your total drops on the map are roughly 2100-2800% chance difference in getting what you want per encounter. Which would line up with the 90-95% reduction some people are claiming. GGG is defending both decisions, while ignoring the fact they compound on each other in an unfun way. 90-95% drop loss just means everything takes 20x longer to achieve the same goal with no real additional upside and ARPG generally are about quickly demolishing stuff. If you can't kill stuff quickly because of ArchNemesis buffs and the drops are shit, it just won't be fun.

I always have a hard time making a build in this game lol maybe I'll try again

league start felt like how the game used to be in terms of drops. like pre-breach. was kinda nostalgic tbh. people dont realize how much more loot drops now than the ol' days

I'm a D2 player from back in the day........... I've never completed the atlas. not even once. there is just so much to this game, it's constantly changing and it's not intuitive, you spend too much time wandering in the dark all while GGG keeps piling shit on and changing existing stuff to ever hope to catch up. project zomboid, for instance, there's a very high learning curve there too, but it's intuitive. I, as a human, know you shouldn't eat raw chicken. so, in zomboid I'll try to use an oven or a grill to cook the meat before consuming it. in poe, you'd just eat the raw chicken, if you can even figure out how to acquire it in the first place.

I feel like my day hasn't started until I watch a asmongold video..Thanks for always being you.

I dont get it how its so fucking hard for GGG to understand that PoE should be about zooming around and nuking screens of enemies. Thats the one thing they did differently from other arpgs and it was super fun times for everyone involved. It’s that easy, dont fucking nerf the game every league. Its so sad to see my favourite game burn away like this with each league

"screaming essence of anger" pretty much describes how the community feels LOL