Why Were Harry's Parents SO Rich? - Harry Potter Explained

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Harry Potter Theory

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Welcome to Harry Potter Theory. Today we’re discussing HOW on earth Harry Potter's parents amassed such an incredible amount of wealth. How is it that Harry’s vault was absolutely bursting at the seams from galleons when the vault of an entire family (the Weasley’s) had but just one single galleon.
We’re also going to be looking at why Rowling made the decision to make Harry as wealthy as he was.
When the Philosopher’s Stone was first released- we got our first look into the contents of Harry’s vault (vault 687) when Hagrid escorts him to Gringotts:
Griphook unlocked the door. A lot of green smoke came billowing out, and as it cleared, Harry gasped. Inside were mounds of gold coins. Columns of silver. Heaps of little bronze Knuts.
"All yours," smiled Hagrid.
And from the first time I read that passage, I became fascinated with Harry’s immense fortune. How did he get it? How much was there? And what did these immense stacks of gold coins look like?
Fortunately, this scene was brought to life on-screen in the release of the Philosopher’s Stone in 2001- and it allowed us to finally witness, with our own eyes, exactly what Harry would have seen when he first stepped foot in vault 687.
I’d also like to point out that this scene was preceded by Harry asking:
“But, Hagrid, how am I to pay for all this? I haven't any money.”
Oh, Harry.
So again I ask- WHERE ON EARTH did Harry’s parents (who were just 21 years old when they died) get all of this gold to leave for Harry?
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@HarryPotterTheory Жыл бұрын
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@JackieBrown7
@JackieBrown7 Жыл бұрын
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@JohnSuave
@JohnSuave Жыл бұрын
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@ethand071
@ethand071 Жыл бұрын
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@jaggershaw6111
@jaggershaw6111 Жыл бұрын
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@xxpyroxx1670
@xxpyroxx1670 Жыл бұрын
why didnt they just use the spell on it where if it gets moved it doubles. like how the gold things all multiplied when they had to break into the bank to find the horcrux
@MrMitchbow
@MrMitchbow Жыл бұрын
I love how the Weasleys never ever ask Harry for anything despite one of the first things Ron learned about him was that he was immensely rich and irresponsible
@raiden1425
@raiden1425 Жыл бұрын
they would refuse his charity everytime pretty much, and he knew that.
@lore00star
@lore00star Жыл бұрын
weasleys are simple and great people. They don't need anything more they have, that is why they're so good with others
@musclesglasses5790
@musclesglasses5790 Жыл бұрын
Duh, because they're friends.
@DaRozeman
@DaRozeman Жыл бұрын
Harry offered to lend/give them money on more than one occasion and they turned him down. Harry DID however give his winnings from the Tri-Wizard Tournament to Fred and George under the guise of "investing" in their plans for a magic shop.
@lore00star
@lore00star Жыл бұрын
@@DC-ih5xb he kinda was actually but not in a bad way, i think in the books you can see it better while in the movies he's a bit too serious imo.
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea Жыл бұрын
If I recall the Potters also married into the Black family twice in their linage, and they were rich AF. Since it was the Potter men who took brides from this extremely wealthy clan, I don't think its out of the question that the Blacks may have given the Potters a large dowry for both marriages.
@Rachel-xu4br
@Rachel-xu4br Жыл бұрын
Technically it's also possible that the Blacks married the Potters due to their wealth rather than the other way around. Both families are rich and powerful, but we have to remember this was a time that often daughters were often pushed by parents to marry someone of the same, or higher status as them. While there is no denying there were financial benefits, the main reason why it happened not once, but twice was mainly due to those particular characters being insistent on staying with only purebloods. All pureblood families have some form of inbreeding in their line.
@elephant35e
@elephant35e Жыл бұрын
Where in their linage did the Potters marry into the Black family?
@N7Biotic
@N7Biotic Жыл бұрын
@@elephant35e Charlus Potter married Dorea Black (who's grandfather was Phineas Nigellus Black). Not sure what the relationship of Charlus Potter was to James. But Charlus was the great uncle of Sirius Black.
@Rachel-xu4br
@Rachel-xu4br Жыл бұрын
@@elephant35e Off the top of my head the only one that comes to mind is Charlus Potter and Dorea Black. On Pottermore even though it mentions only Harry's direct line, on the actual Black tree it shows Charlus Potter on it showing there are more than one Potter line that exists. It all started with seven lines originally (7 is a repeated number in HP in general). Edit: Oop someone already explained for me.
@lordvika2526
@lordvika2526 Жыл бұрын
Dont forget that the Potter invented Skele-Grow and Sleep Easies Hair Potion.
@StarGeezerTim
@StarGeezerTim Жыл бұрын
Additionally Sirius named Harry as his sole beneficiary in his Will. After he died the vast Black estate went to Harry. One would presume this not only included 12 Grimmauld Place and it's contents, but also any cash or items held within the Black's family vaults at Gringotts. Suffice to say, Harry and his family never had to worry about financial solvency.
@fr0stb1ght34
@fr0stb1ght34 Жыл бұрын
Don't need to presume it. Dumbledore tells Harry that exact thing in book six when he goes to pick Harry up at his aunt and uncles. Dumbledore tells Harry that Sirius adds a considerable amount of gold to his account. And that he also inherited #12 Grimuld place. But that the only way to know for sure was to give Kreacher the house elf an order.
@Swearengen1980
@Swearengen1980 Жыл бұрын
@@fr0stb1ght34 That tidbit would have been nice to have glossed over in the movie for a few seconds. I think movie only fans were wondering why Harry could order Kreacher around in Deathly Hallows after insulting Hermoine.
@sharky6404
@sharky6404 Жыл бұрын
@@Swearengen1980 Well, I think some adults can figure out a godfather with no other family, but his godchild, would probably leave his inheritance to said godchild. They did a really horrible job explaining certain details such as house elves and other such magical world building factors.
@Swearengen1980
@Swearengen1980 Жыл бұрын
​@@sharky6404 Adults, yes. I was thinking more about the young ones. My tween would absolutely ask why Harry can boss around Kreacher, but not give inheritance a second thought. Little kids wouldn't think twice about either. Although I don't think a movie viewer can blindly assume Harry inherited much from Sirius because in the movie he was portrayed as having been blackballed by the family with his face being blasted from the family tree. Logical deduction from that is that he was also eliminated from the family inheritance.
@masterpython
@masterpython Жыл бұрын
@@Swearengen1980 Your family can hate you but unless they have the lawyers write you out of the will and specify where everything is going you are still next of kin.
@JordanIdk
@JordanIdk Жыл бұрын
I think it provides a great contrast with Ron. Harry has ridiculous amounts of money, but no family. Ron has a huge family, but no money. Both kinda desire what the other has, it does a great job of showing both sides of wealth.
@basillah7650
@basillah7650 Жыл бұрын
Even if rich having a huge family would eat up the money fast anyways.
@justaformer11b95
@justaformer11b95 Жыл бұрын
Both are wealthy in their own way.
@keithkahler1327
@keithkahler1327 Жыл бұрын
@@basillah7650 well if the members of the family obtained well paying jobs to offset the expenditure than maybe it could work
@FizzyPinepple
@FizzyPinepple Жыл бұрын
@@basillah7650 Assuming everyone would just be NEETs not earning anything
@justinnguyen3906
@justinnguyen3906 Жыл бұрын
@@basillah7650 If they would be able to use up all their money, then they were never considered wealthy in the first place. If a big family is considered wealthy, just assume they have enough money to remain wealthy.
@adambrowning8777
@adambrowning8777 Жыл бұрын
I always assumed that with the death of Voldemort by the Boy who lived, that wizards and witches from all over sent whatever they could to the Potter vault to support the newly orphaned Harry. Never occurred to me that he was heir to the first pharmaceutical company of the Wizarding world.
@cfrandre8319
@cfrandre8319 Жыл бұрын
😄😄😄 Bright AND funny! Goodonyer.
@cfrandre8319
@cfrandre8319 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what the magical equivalent of a GoFundMe would be? I imagine the magical hospital had some kind of charitable fund for treatment of squibs and klutzes who, like Mundungus Fletcher, were less than solvent, had unreliable magical skills, and lived on the edges between the light and dark. The whole magical economy is an interesting puzzle.
@LastKnight0727
@LastKnight0727 Жыл бұрын
I just figured it was wizard world's version of life insurance along with compounding interest rate spell(similar to the Gemini spell in Bellatrix's vault), hence the green smoke. I assumed the smoke was the spell coming undone with the opening of the door. Then the spell is then redone after a withdrawal or deposit is performed.
@drakke125Channel
@drakke125Channel Жыл бұрын
The concept of GoFundMe and donating to family on such a large scale is a bit foreign even from those early to late 1900s. To us it seems like the most sensible thing to do, but I tell you, IT IS NOT. The whole charity thing got blown up and embraced to play to people's emotions.
@snerdterguson
@snerdterguson Жыл бұрын
Not necessarily charity. He was viewed as a hero. People don't know how, but they believed Harry to somehow be responsible for the, what they thought at the time was, the end of Voldemort. They may see it more as paying a debt. On another note, hilariously, when I type Voldemort, auto correct changed it to, "Golden off" but there is no issue typing Dumbledore. I can only assume it is auto correct trying to prevent me saying Vol... He who must not be named.
@DivineKnight_115
@DivineKnight_115 Жыл бұрын
What’s funny is the potters are all famous master potion makers. Lily though married into the potter family was a very gifted potion maker to the degree that she was on top of Slughorns favorites list. Another tragedy from both her and James’ deaths is that we won’t ever get to see what genius products they could’ve invented adding even more to the family fortune.
@TheEvertw
@TheEvertw Жыл бұрын
In spite of Harry's short foray into Auroring, and Ginny's into sports, I'd love for them to prove Snape wrong by making some inventions of their own...
@DaleHammersIII
@DaleHammersIII Жыл бұрын
This is actually a good point I'd never thought of.
@Galiant2010
@Galiant2010 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if the reason Harry survived the killing curse is because of a potion that James and Lily created together and gave to him as a last ditch effort to help save him when they learned that they were on Voldemort's hit-list. A potion made with pure love as an unintentional ingredient. A potion that never became public knowledge because of their deaths.
@cfrandre8319
@cfrandre8319 Жыл бұрын
@@Galiant2010 Good thought.
@drakke125Channel
@drakke125Channel Жыл бұрын
Um, Lily is not a 'potter' by blood, she's a muggleborn like Hermione. Though Hermione is a lowkey mary sue who knows how to live and think like wizard better than anyone else despite never been in the culture, just be simply 'reading a book'. That is pure nonsense and bad writing. First time I heard of potters being good at potions though.
@LeCharles07
@LeCharles07 Жыл бұрын
Harry's first class with Snape gives a whole different feel when you realize he's essentially berating Harry because Harry's disconnected from the Potter family legacy.
@drakke125Channel
@drakke125Channel Жыл бұрын
Snape didn't bully him because Harry was disconnected with his Potter family legacy, but more of a grudge against the 'men' in Potter family because if James was bad, so is his sons. Snape is one of those people who didn't give a damn about Harry's past or what he's been through, nor was Harry's sad childhood even public knowledge till Fourth Year, albeit it was a glimpse.
@jordanwardle11
@jordanwardle11 Жыл бұрын
Probably because if lily had not been with James, she would have been alive with Snape. But since James is dead, he takes it out on harry
@alexandreaanderson514
@alexandreaanderson514 Жыл бұрын
@@drakke125Channel Actually Snape was just jealous of Harry's dad.
@MyVanir
@MyVanir Жыл бұрын
@@alexandreaanderson514 He was jealous of James, but with Harry, it was a mixture of resentment and a twisted sort of affection - he was the son of the man who made his youth utterly garbage and married the girl he loved, but he was also Lily's son, which transferred a degree of protectiveness onto him. IIRC Dumbledore even outright says that Snape's decisions were, more than anything, directed by his desire to protect Harry - even though he immensely disliked him as a person.
@cferracini
@cferracini Жыл бұрын
I know it isnt that but it would be fun if it were true
@dellcoc
@dellcoc Жыл бұрын
The bigger question is why Harry constantly forgot that he was rich throughout the series. His money could have helped them numerous times (especially Ron).
@DaleHammersIII
@DaleHammersIII Жыл бұрын
Because he only had access to it while at school and he grew up with nothing, so its not a direction his mind automatically goes. Sorta out of sight, out of mind.
@Bballfan1992
@Bballfan1992 Жыл бұрын
Harry did offer to help pay for things, but the Weasleys always declined. Harry remembered he had money, but he also didn’t live like it because he couldn’t always access it. He was always at Hogwarts, or his relatives for 90% of the year. Not many chances to go to the bank. And sadly, Gringotts did not have debit cards lol
@williamho1976
@williamho1976 Жыл бұрын
@@Bballfan1992 Or credit cards. Otherwise Harry should have a Gringotts Black Card!
@laurfincher8137
@laurfincher8137 Жыл бұрын
being raised by the Dursley's Harry was a slave and he also saw how wealth ruined his cousin. Greedy mean brat. The Dursley's were spoiling their child and they would lick the boots of others to get higher up... so having wealth looked ugly to Harry.
@MISTAKEWASMADE4live
@MISTAKEWASMADE4live Жыл бұрын
He would offer to pay for the Weasleys expenses, but they would refuse I think it's even highlighted in the Chamber of Secrets, they won't accept his cash.
@Satchel456
@Satchel456 Жыл бұрын
I never realized Harry's parents were only 21 when they died. The actors they used for Harry's parents in the movie were definitely older than 21.
@ihaveacar
@ihaveacar Жыл бұрын
He also gets the invisibility cloak, which presumably has been passed from eldest son to eldest son to eldest son through the generations going back to one of the most powerful wizards of all time nearly 1000 years ago. Usually family fortunes, titles, land, etc.. also goes to the eldest and I'd assume the branch of the family coming from the "wisest" of the Deathly Hallow creators probably weren't poor through the ages.
@kindlin
@kindlin Жыл бұрын
This, I think, is the best answer for this video. Everything else is just specifics. I really do rather enjoy this series. Maybe I'll start a reread sometime...
@kadaltokek3953
@kadaltokek3953 Жыл бұрын
Umm most likely the biggest portion of possessions goes to eldest children and the youngest children inherited immense of fortune as well, it wasn't just as big as the eldest children
@alezy7645
@alezy7645 Жыл бұрын
I think there were more than one invisibility cloak, the were extremly rare but there wasn't only one.
@ihaveacar
@ihaveacar Жыл бұрын
​@@alezy7645 There are none that are even close to as good as Harry's and the enchantment on others doesn't last long. This is mentioned a bunch of times. Harry's is perfect invisibility, even magic can't see through it.
@kindlin
@kindlin Жыл бұрын
@@ihaveacar Besides Moody's eye, apparently. Whatever charm that eye has needs to be replicated... And I know Ron says all that about the typical cloaks, but I did get the impression that there were other really good cloaks out there, too.
@CRACKERJACK439
@CRACKERJACK439 Жыл бұрын
So you're telling me that Harry, who was not the best with potions, was the heir to the wizard equivalent of a pharmaceutical company? Why does this make me love it more?
@DaleHammersIII
@DaleHammersIII Жыл бұрын
Harry wasnt really that bad at potions, Snape just made him not want the classes. Hard to do well in a class with a teach you hate and it be reciprocated.
@DraconisX86
@DraconisX86 Жыл бұрын
Harry was actually really good with potions. In the sorcerers stone, he solves Snape's potion puzzle by himself. Even though Snape doesn't like Harry, he is still forced to give him an Excellent on the exams.
@abdullahimran4624
@abdullahimran4624 Жыл бұрын
@@DraconisX86 hermione solved the logic riddle
@jameskuyper
@jameskuyper Жыл бұрын
Harry was good enough at potions that, when he no longer had Snape as his teacher, he was able to take full advantage of his good luck in finding the half-blood prince's potion book. It's ironic that they were actually the same person. Harry could have learned so much from Snape if Snape hadn't let his hatred of James Potter get in the way.
@AdeptKing
@AdeptKing Жыл бұрын
To be fair it didn’t help that his teacher was Snape who practically hates him (if he didn’t then he sure acted like it)because of his dad.
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir Жыл бұрын
I've always seen it as the fact that Harry has such enormous wealth just fingertips away, helps establish him as a genuine person of integrity who solves his own issues and doesn't take shortcuts to gain advantages - it helps create that crevasse between him and Malfoy, where Malfoy is the polar opposite, he has wealth just like Harry, and he has his father's influence, and he uses it actively whenever anything goes slightly against him. This contrast solidifies Harry and why he's in Gryffindor, why he acts how he does, why he is who he is. He grew up with nothing, and has learned to live without the need of easy problem-solvers such as family wealth. He doesn't take the easy way out, even if it is perfectly accessible to him at all times.
@DaleHammersIII
@DaleHammersIII Жыл бұрын
Malfoy has significantly more wealth than Harry will ever have. It's made clear in the books their family made their wealth through not so legal ways. Thats why in Harry's vault there were piles of coins, in Bellatrix's there were mountains. The Malfoy's are one of the richest families in the wizarding world. At least in England.
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir Жыл бұрын
@@DaleHammersIII That's not the point. Malfoy also has parents. Point is, many of the actual personal struggles and opportunities they have to overcome/pursue, can be easily solved with the wealth they both possess. When Draco gets things that aid him, like his high-spec broom, it's mainly because he represents the Malfoy name and thus he gets the best equipment to do so. On the other hand, whenever Harry gets anything it's because the people around him genuinely care for him and he has earned their affection through his inner worth, not his inherited wealth. Draco is a stark contrast, and I just feel like the fact that they're both immensely wealthy and well within the top 0.1% goes a long way to help establish this difference between them. Draco boasts of his family name, wealth, and influence. Harry seemingly forgets he even has money -despite having more than enough to live luxuriously for the rest of his life.
@marcellkovacs5452
@marcellkovacs5452 Жыл бұрын
This is also how I thought about it. He’s a rich kid who’s down to earth and never flaunts his wealth. Malfoy takes every opportunity to flaunt it. It’s funny how bad Rowling’s actual explanation is in comparison.
@MyVanir
@MyVanir Жыл бұрын
@@Real_MisterSir The reason Harry isn't constantly aware of it is that he doesn't really get to use it - he knows it as a fact, but he doesn't experience it. Meanwhile Draco grew up surrounded by it.
@Timboyxxx
@Timboyxxx Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be surprised if Dumbledore didn't count on Harry's upbringing under the Dursleys to ultimately humble and build what Dumbledore found to be one of the most important aspect to his character and contrast to Voldemort. Perfectly opposing everything Voldemort stood for.
@tankdogization
@tankdogization Жыл бұрын
It’s interesting to think about how little Harry had to worry about after defeating Voldemort. Wealth came from his parents and Sirius. Property in the Wizard World was passed down from Sirius as well. All at 17 years old.
@katholmes7112
@katholmes7112 Жыл бұрын
Well, the one thing the books never addressed after the war that always bugged me is PTSD. I guarantee you every single person, but especially the children raised to be soldiers had it. No way we're their lives perfect.
@ginjaedgy49
@ginjaedgy49 Жыл бұрын
@@katholmes7112 perhaps one day we'll get a sequel, perhaps 20 years from the last harry potter film to account for the actors age. how they deal with what happened in their youth and possibly bringing in a new age of harry potter shows with the main characters kids
@kokofan50
@kokofan50 Жыл бұрын
@@katholmes7112 most people don’t develop PTSD even after a traumatic experience like the war.
@cfrandre8319
@cfrandre8319 Жыл бұрын
@@kokofan50 You’d be surprised how many people around the world have PTSD...
@kokofan50
@kokofan50 Жыл бұрын
@@cfrandre8319 no, I wouldn’t. Traumatic events happen all the time, but most people are able to process them. If helps if you have a strong social network and encouraged to be resilient rather than focusing on the trauma. The English speaking world has been especially good at the latter.
@TheEvertw
@TheEvertw Жыл бұрын
I love this bit in the Potter backstory. Makes one wonder if James taunted Snape with being the child of a successful potion master, and how that could have motivated Snape to double-down on potions. Oh, lovely speculations...
@drakke125Channel
@drakke125Channel Жыл бұрын
honestly a lot of the 'backstory' and rowling writing are stuff I find to be rather skeptical of, a lot of it was prob just added much later given how poorly setup the mechanics of magic was at the start. Things like wandless and incantation-less magic hasn't really been sufficiently or fully explained yet, at least from what I've seen so far but there's always a chance there's 'new lore' I may have missed, but this stuff we're learning are outside of the main school year books.
@briananthony4044
@briananthony4044 Жыл бұрын
@@drakke125Channel I would think that wands and incantations help to focus and amplify the magic, but a powerful experienced witch or wizard can do without both as the magical ability resides within the person, not the wand. Elves can do magic without such assistance.
@GatoMichito
@GatoMichito Жыл бұрын
I miss the old Kanye
@mayamartin7359
@mayamartin7359 Жыл бұрын
This adds so much richness to Snape’s backstory and I wish that was covered here! - Lily was talented with potions and married into a potions fortune (another commenter mentioned that any or all of that might’ve motivated Snape to get good with them) - so Severus not only lost the girl to the rich boy, but also ended up teaching the relevant subject in school, and then Harry comes along - he knew this kid may well have been the next Potter ingenue and he’d have the chance to help nurture Lily’s boy in that, but he still chose to put him down and keep Harry’s family history secret from him.
@MuttonTheDragon
@MuttonTheDragon Жыл бұрын
What’s more is that Fleamont made the Sleakeasy’s Hair Potion! Snape didn’t use it out of spite for the Potters, so his hair remained greasy AF!
@barrettbritt
@barrettbritt Жыл бұрын
I always thought Harry’s wealth was a really strong juxtaposition between the life Harry knew and then the new wizarding world. Since he had so little (both in terms of money and belongings as whole) with the Dursley’s, his unknown wealth added a lot to the change between his muggle life and his life as a wizard when I read the books for the first time
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea Жыл бұрын
On top of the royalties he would have received from his grandfather's potion recipe, I imagine the Potter fortune might have been put into a trust with a respected trustee put in charge of properly investing this money to grow the fortune so that Harry would have a tidy nest egg once he enters the Wizarding World.
@firesideshats
@firesideshats Жыл бұрын
Don't think it works like that champ lol
@Haseo92
@Haseo92 Жыл бұрын
@@firesideshats Maybe, but seeing how the Goblins are, it wouldn't surprise me if they were investing some of that money and giving back a little of their ROI(like every bank does)
@kenzashenna
@kenzashenna Жыл бұрын
Also donations for wee Harry must have flown in from people saddened by their heroic death!
@TianarTruegard
@TianarTruegard Жыл бұрын
Does money sitting in wizard banks earn interest? It would have been sitting in Gringot's for like 10-15 years or so? Plenty of time for interest to acrue.
@SheoGotSomeCheese
@SheoGotSomeCheese Жыл бұрын
Maybe Voldemort had a bounty on his head?
@sarahlynn4721
@sarahlynn4721 Жыл бұрын
Most of the Death Eaters were members of the Scared 28, and I've always wondered if maybe some of Harry's fortune came from fines and restitution payments that the Death Eaters had to pay the Ministry as part of their sentencing terms. I'm not sure how advanced the Wizarding government would be with that type of thing, but they could have taken a percentage of each payment and put it in Harry's account? Or divided it up among the other victims? And Lucius Malfoy probably paid off the Ministry so he wouldn't be sent to Azkaban, along with his claim that he was under the imperius curse...Maybe others did that as well and the Ministry took portions of those to go to Voldemort's victims as well?
@HarryPotterTheory
@HarryPotterTheory Жыл бұрын
I like your train of thought here!
@AwesomeGingersFtw
@AwesomeGingersFtw Жыл бұрын
Harry isn’t the only person who lost loved ones though, what about Molly? She lost her brothers and a son.. does she not deserve “fines and restitution payments” too? There’s likely many more who’d, at least in my opinion, be more deserving of it than Harry. The Death Eaters who were from the Sacred 28 would have nothing left quicker than you can say Quidditch if they had to make payments to all of the families they wronged 🤷‍♂️
@sarahlynn4721
@sarahlynn4721 Жыл бұрын
@@AwesomeGingersFtw Yes, I definitely agree. That's why I added "Or divided it up among the other victims" and said that maybe the Death Eaters who didn't get into trouble paid off the Ministry and portions of those payoffs were divided among Voldemort's victims. I focused more of the Harry aspect of it because that was the video topic, but I 100% agree with you that all the victims would deserve to be included in this. 😊 When I initially thought of this, the Lestranges and Barty Crouch, Jr. paying restitution to Neville's family is who came to my mind first, because being tortured to the point that you don't know who you are or who your son is seems like it would be worse than death. And the torture they endure to get to that point? I can't even imagine. They definitely deserve something, and I would certainly hope that someone besides the Longbottom family is paying for their lifelong stay and care in the Janus Thickey Ward. I'm not sure if other families would accept any payments though. I think alot of them would look at it as "dirty Death Eater money" and not want to accept it. I feel like Molly (as a former Prewett), and the rest of the Weasleys are a very proud family and would consider accepting money from the government (or anyone) to be charity, even if they were payments of restitution for their loss and suffering. They're poor, but proud. I know in the books when Harry gave Fred and George his Twiwizard winnings he had to tell them to take it as a an investment for them to open up their joke shop. I always picture the old families as having more money than they know what to do with. Generations upon generations just hoarding money and making shady business deals and bribing people to aquire more money and investing it...maybe I've just read too many fan fics though 🤷🏻‍♀️ I mean, Lucius Malfoy has pet peacocks wandering around! To me, that's a ridiculously rich person thing. I don't necessarily think they'd have to do individual payments to each family (because yeah, that would be a lot of money!), unless they directly affected said family (the Lestranges torturing the Longbottoms, for example). I can't remember how much restitution my friends grandmother got from a robbery. I know it was a few thousand dollars from each person involved though. It would be reasonable to think that they could charge each family member involved a percentage of their assets and divide it up among the victims...depending on how much money each person has in their legal account vs how much they have hidden away, it might not add up to much! 😹
@AwesomeGingersFtw
@AwesomeGingersFtw Жыл бұрын
@@sarahlynn4721 yeah I thought of Neville too seeing as he had to grow up with his parents not even knowing who he is, can’t even begin to imagine what that would be like. I just don’t see how it’d realistically be enforced and even if it was, as you quite rightly pointed out, many of the families wouldn’t want the money anyway seeing as it’s coming from Death Eaters. There’s absolutely no way in hell Molly would take a penny from Lucius for example even if it was to be revealed he was part of the group that attacked her brothers. She’d rather justice be served and he rots in Azkaban. That’s not to say that no one would take restitution payments but I just feel like the Death Eaters, more specifically any who had family wealth, caused too much grief to far too many people for them to feasibly pay them back without it resulting in it being a pittance due to the amount of people they wronged. Maybe a one time overall “fine” type thing based on the severity of their crimes to be paid to the ministry for them to then disperse to services such as St.Mungo’s? Idk. Paying the surviving family members just doesn’t seem like it’d work out all that well to me given that there’d likely be a *lot* of them.
@danayneal4409
@danayneal4409 Жыл бұрын
@@sarahlynn4721 I bet the wizarding insurance documents look very different from our muggle ones. 😂
@Luxychi
@Luxychi Жыл бұрын
If there were death insurance in the wizarding world, I think Harry would also benefit from that. Especially since this was war, I believe a lot of families would purchase death insurance for their loved ones in case something ever happens to them.
@TheHomerowKeys
@TheHomerowKeys Жыл бұрын
Now I just imagine Harry filing an AD&D claim to the Ministry after Voldemort is dead again. And then a convoluted process of ministry claim analysts trying to confirm the destruction of all horcruxes and the finality of Voldemort's death and researching his parents "apparent loss of life and/or limb" in the process and details of said claims between the time of his parents' deaths and him finally filing the claim after he's old enough and Voldemort is dead. Basically, I'm just imagining Harry dealing with insurance in the wizarding world, which has to be bonkers. "Mr. Potter, we have only received the coroner's report for one, James Potter. Please send an owl with a notarized coroner's report from the district of Godric's Hollow for one, Lily Potter, dated 1 November 1981, immediately. Please also include all documents and postage relayed after said reapportionment of your estate after the inheritance of House Black but prior to your coming of age at 17 to determine your total estate at the time of the event filed which we have determined to be a period of 16 years. Kindly, The Department of Overt Pedantry and Incredibly-Precise Completion Ministry of Magic London, England"
@pompe221
@pompe221 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that too. Plus James would have inherited his parents' wealth. And on top of that, if wizard banking is like muggle banking, there's 11 years of compounding interest because nobody's making any withdrawals until Harry goes to Hogwarts.
@9791ben
@9791ben Жыл бұрын
Yes, this! As soon as Voldemort starts hunting me, I sign up for term life insurance.
@Likexner
@Likexner Жыл бұрын
Or maybe because it was war, the insurance companies wouldnt insure them.
@jwatrous4473
@jwatrous4473 Жыл бұрын
The pepperup potion was used in Chamber of Secrets too. Ginny took a dose after Percy urged her, due to her looking pale. Also I think it's revealed in The Sorcerer's Stone that Fleamont and Harry share knobbly knees lol
@larryroberts3598
@larryroberts3598 Жыл бұрын
Plus, Sirius left him a considerable amount of gold as well
@TianarTruegard
@TianarTruegard Жыл бұрын
I still think Sirius should have been kept alive in the books / movies so Harry had at least SOME living family in the wizarding world.
@katholmes7112
@katholmes7112 Жыл бұрын
Harry has a lot of living relatives. He's literally related to every pureblood family, even the Weasleys long before he married Ginny. Arthur's mother was a Black. He's a second cousin or something to Draco. He's related to Neville. He's related to Andromeda Tom's even before becoming Teddy's godfather. Heck, if we knew who Dean Thomas's biological father was he might be related to Dean.
@DaleHammersIII
@DaleHammersIII Жыл бұрын
@@TianarTruegard The Weasleys are just as much family as Sirius. Harry technically wasnt related to Sirius either. JK at first was going to kill Mr. Weasley, but decided Harry needed him as a proper father figure. Sirius would be many things to Harry, but a father figure he was incapable of being. In Sirius's head, Harry was nothing more than a replacement for James.
@cfrandre8319
@cfrandre8319 Жыл бұрын
@@TianarTruegard Ikr?
@cfrandre8319
@cfrandre8319 Жыл бұрын
@@katholmes7112 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@alen3ever
@alen3ever Жыл бұрын
One more thing @HarryPotterTheory, one thing you have forgotten to add is the fact that since Harry was also the heir to Sirius Black, he inherited all of his wealth as well. In the sixth book, Dumbuldore informs Harry of this. Sirius, being from the infamous Black family did have a lot of inherited wealth even though he could not use it for most of his adult life.
@DaleHammersIII
@DaleHammersIII Жыл бұрын
Sirius didnt really have the Black fortune though, his money was from a rich uncle and self made. While he added a good chunk to it, Sirius himself wasnt terribly rich compared to the rest of the Blacks.
@Bballfan1992
@Bballfan1992 Жыл бұрын
@@DaleHammersIII we never actually know what happened to the Black fortune. We do know they were rich, and I’m sure some dowry was paid out to Malfoy and Lestrange for Narcissa and Bellatrix. But everyone else is dead, and what they did isn’t known. We don’t know if the Black vault, like Grimmauld, stayed to the next male, which was Sirius after his brother died. It’s wholly possible the main Black fault stayed in the family, most like patriarchal, and was ultimately left to Harry. Dromeda was cast out completely, and as a woman, it’s most likely she would not have received anything. It would be interesting to find out where the whole Black fortune went.
@cfrandre8319
@cfrandre8319 Жыл бұрын
@@Bballfan1992 Andromeda was an outcast from the Black family but wasn’t there a dotty but wealthy old aunt somewhere, who kept Tonks and her mother relatively comfortable (they could never show they were all right) after Ted Tonks died? And Andromeda raised Tonks and Lupin’s son after they died...
@Bballfan1992
@Bballfan1992 Жыл бұрын
@@cfrandre8319 I’m not sure. I don’t remember reading about an old aunt helping Andy, so I can’t say for sure. Definitely possible. But yeah, Andy definitely lost any access to the Black vault. Their way of life was very Victorian era, with patriarchal succession. I’m sure it was supposed to go to Regulus, but ended up with Sirius as I don’t think any Black family leader would let old tradition die that hard, and give it all away to strangers, or give it to another family through marriage and let the Black fortune disappear after all the generations of wealth added to it.
@drakke125Channel
@drakke125Channel Жыл бұрын
Wasn't Black disowned from the family? Can you seriously still own property that would normally be passed down to you when your face/name is stricken from family tree record??? How did people miss this????
@ame1861
@ame1861 Жыл бұрын
This must be one of my favourite videos you've ever made. Absolutely loved it!
@Piketom1
@Piketom1 Жыл бұрын
This video touches on one of my favorite things in the Harry Potter universe: Genealogy. The importance of family history and the way they explore it is just so interesting.
@grendel7716
@grendel7716 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if Pottermore expanded on it but considering how many families were wiped out during Voldemort's rise, it's possible he inherited from several extended family members. Not to mention it would've gathered interest over a decade if that's how gringotts works
@blackmoon8459
@blackmoon8459 Жыл бұрын
Given that it’s a sealed vault, and not a “fictional concept that exists only as a number in a ledger” I suspect Gringots doesn’t do interest. Just super secure storage.
@WombatDave
@WombatDave Жыл бұрын
@@blackmoon8459 Gringots has to make money somewhere, even if only enough to pay their employees. Most likely they would have something like a CD, where a wizard invests a sum of money for a fixed amount of time, and cannot withdraw that money. Gringots can then loan that money out at interest, and when the CD reaches maturity they the deposit the principle plus some of the interest earned back into the investor's vault.
@MISTAKEWASMADE4live
@MISTAKEWASMADE4live Жыл бұрын
@@WombatDave I think Goblins just enjoy, sort of feed off the wealth of Gringotts.
@lurtztheorc
@lurtztheorc Жыл бұрын
@@WombatDave Would you not just pay for the vault (i.e. renting it) which could vary depending on how much space is needed, and in extreme cases, the security (I believe someone from the black family (or someone allied with voldemort) had a dragon protecting theirs.)
@raiderjohnthemadbomber8666
@raiderjohnthemadbomber8666 Жыл бұрын
The irony is that Harry apparently, is not so gifted in the art of potions. His cheif success was achieved by using Snapes "recipes ", not his own.
@redking8970
@redking8970 Жыл бұрын
He's not bad though. If snape hadn't made him lose interest, he would probably somewhat aced the class.
@robinschmalbrock5357
@robinschmalbrock5357 Жыл бұрын
If Snape had treated him as Lily's son in general instead of just times of danger (I blame James' face) the result during potion classes would have always been what it finally became in year 6.
@DaleHammersIII
@DaleHammersIII Жыл бұрын
I also think he did poorly because of Snape, not because he was bad at potions.
@killxxhollywoodxx
@killxxhollywoodxx Жыл бұрын
Hey! You should make a video about famous wizards and what they did to get rich/famous. Something like "Ten famous wizards & how they got grew to fame." Something like that! Great video! Love this channel 💗😍
@BlueRazor69
@BlueRazor69 Жыл бұрын
Harry’s grandfather Fleamont invented wizard hair gel. It turned a huge profit for the family. Hermione used it to get ready for the Yule Ball.
@narikdragonheart2688
@narikdragonheart2688 Жыл бұрын
"Rowling used harry as an extension of herself and her future desires" ...so she used magic to make herself rich through those books...cool 😎
@donovanberserk4993
@donovanberserk4993 Жыл бұрын
Based
@stormywaters
@stormywaters Жыл бұрын
This is my first video of yours and I just have to say...this was a really fantastic video! New subscriber!
@sirwence9949
@sirwence9949 Жыл бұрын
Good Video - Answered some questions I had as a kid
@himynamelscolin
@himynamelscolin Жыл бұрын
Crazy that Harry’s ancestor ended up saving him from beyond the grave in more than one way!!
@Pumpkin0_0
@Pumpkin0_0 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching the first movie when it came out back then. I hadn't read the books and I didn't know any other details, so when the movie initially revealed that Harry's parents had left him a fortune, I immediately wondered what they did to become that wealthy. This to say that that's the reason why I clicked on this video as soon as it appeared on my recommended. lol
@crimediverspodcast1301
@crimediverspodcast1301 Жыл бұрын
What I have always wondered is what happened to Harrys Grandparents. His parents died at 21 years old, so its very unusual for people that age to have both their parents gone.
@DaleHammersIII
@DaleHammersIII Жыл бұрын
Not with a rampaging dark wizard killing everyone.
@crimediverspodcast1301
@crimediverspodcast1301 Жыл бұрын
@@DaleHammersIII yeah thats true, never thought about that. would have been nice for it to have been mentioned though lol
@Shesmiles99
@Shesmiles99 Жыл бұрын
It also makes me wonder about his grandparent's siblings (if they have any) and their kids which could've been around Harry's parents ages. It's hard to believe that Petunia is the only other relative he has out there🤔 but for the sake of the book and plot it makes sense, plus Petunia is the closest blood relative to him
@OK-hi5ym
@OK-hi5ym Жыл бұрын
And they were alive when James was at Hogwarts because Sirius mentions spending the summer holidays at the Potter’s because he hated being at home.
@MyVanir
@MyVanir Жыл бұрын
I imagine that they were one of the casualties of Voldy's rampage.
@eurosalamander
@eurosalamander Жыл бұрын
This was a very informative video. Thank you for making it.
@HarryPotterTheory
@HarryPotterTheory Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@katholmes7112
@katholmes7112 Жыл бұрын
I haven't watched yet, but I'll make my guess now and see if I'm right. The Potters invented several potions. James's father invented the Sleek Easy hair potion. And his ancestor from way back invented a couple. I can't remember all the names but one was skele-grow.
@NickBurns-ey6od
@NickBurns-ey6od Жыл бұрын
Sleek ezy And theres one more
@katherinemurphy2762
@katherinemurphy2762 Жыл бұрын
It's ironic that Harry's grandfather invented Sleekeazy, and that Harry had unruly dark hair. 😆
@i.marchand4655
@i.marchand4655 Жыл бұрын
@@katherinemurphy2762 Not ironic at all, maybe. Since Harry and his dad both had unruly hair, you can bet that Fleamont had the same issue. So of course he created a potion for it. He may have even forced James to use it (when James was at home, anyway).
@UndeadAaronGames
@UndeadAaronGames Жыл бұрын
For 21 years old Harry's parents sure look 40, not being ageist, I just think it was an unusual casting choice.
@aightm8
@aightm8 Жыл бұрын
21 was an unusual age choice. The movie change was good
@EllcieTV
@EllcieTV Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this channel. It's my favorite one.
@Essman614
@Essman614 Жыл бұрын
I think the most interesting excerpt here is about how the potterer had no shortage of magical plants and healing salves, but the common folk were non the wiser. Which I mean if I strolled through a time traveler's garden I'd probably just think oh what nice lovely plants you have.
@JoshuaKirtley
@JoshuaKirtley Жыл бұрын
I also like the fact that Harry was raised to have next to nothing to his name. Even living in the cupboard under the stairs. So we get to see Harry had parents who loved him, magical powers and great wealth, all the things he didn't have before. But for all the gold he had and all the things he could buy with it, it never changed him. It allowed him to buy the things he needed, but beyond that, money wasn't important to him. It's presence or absence in the life of a classmate or other any other person he met didn't affect his opinion of them, just the way they treated himself and others.
@drakke125Channel
@drakke125Channel Жыл бұрын
Exactly. To Harry, what was more important was he used whatever resources including money to get what he wanted, but he only did that when it applied to his friends like the Weasleys. He did not spend massive gold for himself, only when he's being thoughtful to others with buying the cart of snacks/sweets on the Hogwarts Express and the winning Triwizard money to the Weasley twins. Outside of that, he hasn't been seen doing any wasteful spending. Anyone can easily see Harry actually values his friendships with others far more than material things, this is especially the case with growing up with an abusive family and without his blood parents, to the point where McGonagall was almost his second aunt/mother (just a little bit). However that would have been inappropriate and out of place. Harry also did not discriminate people based on their Houses. The Cursed Child garbage of a book made him out to be a stereotypical racist white man (according to toxic woke people), in which he took issue with his son we see in the end of the last book and movie, asking about being placed in Slytherin. in Contrast with Cursed child, Harry in original books/movies had no qualms and felt pride if his son went to Slytherin because he found beaming respect for Severus Snape. That says a lot about Harry's character. Not to mention Harry got along well with Slughorn, and probably had normal conversations with at least one or two other Slytherin students he came across throughout his school life.
@keithkahler1327
@keithkahler1327 Жыл бұрын
@@drakke125Channel I mean the tri-wizard winnings could justly be Investing in his friends business venture
@Jay_76
@Jay_76 Жыл бұрын
I don't think the Potter's vault was as full as the films would like us to believe. In Prisoner of Azkaban, Harry is contemplating getting a Firebolt but, he realizes that he would have to empty his vault to buy it and decides it's not worth it. This could be because the Firebolt was _INCREDIBLY_ expensive but, I always read it as Harry having enough money to live comfortably, but not enough to be rich.
@delfinenteddyson9865
@delfinenteddyson9865 Жыл бұрын
Isn't he also pondering on his living cost when he stays a bit longer in the The Leaky Cauldron? I allways thought that he had alot of money for a child, but only because he never needed to care about living expenses
@joseHernandez-mg1us
@joseHernandez-mg1us Жыл бұрын
In reality, Harry had no way of knowing because the price was only given when the buyer asked and Harry, without having the facts, pessimistically assumed that it would cost him most of his money without having any real proof.
@greatstonedragon6440
@greatstonedragon6440 Жыл бұрын
I think his wealth is also a nice contrast with his life with the Dursleys. He has all this wealth in the wizard world and it does him no good when home for the summers where he basically has nothing to call his own(not even a bedroom in the first book).
@lazytommy0
@lazytommy0 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if snape knew about the potter history of potions? Makes sense given snapes route through teaching during harrys time at hogwarts. Snape knew that harry needed protection against voldemort so he was a dark arts instructor. But he was also a potions teacher. Maybe snape wanted to see if harry had a gift for potions like his family did.
@dahveed284
@dahveed284 Жыл бұрын
It makes perfect sense once you consider where Rowling was financially when she wrote the first book.
@Ashock88
@Ashock88 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video yet again. I like that J.K. did it because she was just starting out. Dream big everyone!
@GreenFalcon926
@GreenFalcon926 Жыл бұрын
I know right. It's crazy that she was poor, depressed and a single mother. Now she's one of the wealthest authors of all time and a household name known worldwide. Just goes to show what can happen.
@ruturajshiralkar5566
@ruturajshiralkar5566 Жыл бұрын
Linfred of Stichcombe the first Potter was the founder and owner of a very successful Potions Company. The wealth that Harry inherited was a part of that wealth. If I'm correct, most of the Potter fortune got over by the time of Flemont Potter, Harry Potter's Grandfather.
@LastKnight0727
@LastKnight0727 Жыл бұрын
I just figured it was wizard world's version of life insurance along with compounding interest rate spell(similar to the Gemini spell in Bellatrix's vault), hence the green smoke. I assumed the smoke was the spell coming undone with the opening of the door. Then the spell is redone after a withdrawal or deposit is performed.
@boggytrails
@boggytrails Жыл бұрын
The Potters are tied up to some of the oldest wizarding families over generations. Given the oldest son seems to have always gotten the invisibility cloak, one can assume he consistently got a good dose of the money too. 😉
@dreadfulspiller8766
@dreadfulspiller8766 Жыл бұрын
The question that really needs to be answered is how Hagrid's dad hooked up with a giantess. Did he transfigure her into a human woman because I can't see how or why a wizard would want to hook up with a giant. Also how did they fix nearly headless Nick after he saw the basilisk?
@1COMIXMAN
@1COMIXMAN Жыл бұрын
Maybe he used engorgio spell on his junk.
@dreadfulspiller8766
@dreadfulspiller8766 Жыл бұрын
@@1COMIXMAN Yeah maybe.
@rayblair3933
@rayblair3933 Жыл бұрын
Great video 😀 more videos on potions
@Natesoph
@Natesoph Жыл бұрын
They had really good life insurance. Also Lily got a bonus for temporary killing Voldemort.
@jigganumber03
@jigganumber03 Жыл бұрын
The way Rolling manifested her wealth through Harry literally brought a tear to my eye, the mind truly is a powerful force ✨
@carmcarm8230
@carmcarm8230 Жыл бұрын
Great videos
@dimetime35c
@dimetime35c Жыл бұрын
Only thing I'll point out is royalties don't always mean mass amounts of money. It depends on the type of agreement. To my knowledge you can either have a lump payout right away for your IP or have a portion of the sales over the lifetime. Apparently the guy that wrote the Witcher books did the immediate payout without realizing exactly what he was signing the rights to. So when the Witcher video games blew up he didn't get a single cent of the revenue.
@monikerkinakin6943
@monikerkinakin6943 Жыл бұрын
I think by making Harry rich, Rowling made an unintentional expansion of his character. It showed his incorruptible personality. While other kids would have changed the way they acted if they knew they were the heir to a fortune (i.e. Malfoy), Harry remained good natured.
@svenlauke1190
@svenlauke1190 Жыл бұрын
I want to know why harry had absolutely NO relatives at all except the Dursleys
@kr46428
@kr46428 Жыл бұрын
Technically he did have distant relatives from the Potter side, but in order to renew the protection of his mother's sacrifice, he needed to stay with his mother's relatives (i.e., Aunt Petunia) and call it "home". Although Petunia is likely to have very distant relatives, I would not be surprised if the magical protection was only strong enough to protect Harry if he stayed with a close relative.
@skinnyslytherin
@skinnyslytherin Жыл бұрын
Remember in the deathly hallows where they go into bellatrixs vault and the goblin says everytime you touch something it multiplys, therefore meaning that you can have as much gold as you want, all you have to do is touch some
@austinlea847
@austinlea847 Жыл бұрын
VIDEO IDEA! I’ve always wanted to know more about the wizarding world and the muggle world! As in, where did the wizarding world come from? Has it always been an parallel universe? Or was it created?! Is the Weasley house in the muggle world or wizarding world? If it’s in the muggle world? How has it not been discovered by muggles? I still don’t fully understand the transitions between the two worlds in the films. I never know if they’re in the muggle world or not.
@jameskuyper
@jameskuyper Жыл бұрын
It's interesting, given that her own poverty was why Rowling made Harry rich, that Harry ended up doing the same for her.
@alecstronach
@alecstronach Жыл бұрын
I always assumed Rowling made Harry rich as it was such a contrast to his old life, where he had nothing. Figured since all Harry ever wanted was a better life, and since his wish came true, that the wealth was just another thing to turn Harry's life around for him. That being said, I really really wish for a mysterious man to take me to a goblin bank with loads of money saved for me from my very much alive parents... I'm still here, guess that stuff only happens in books
@patryklewandowski2099
@patryklewandowski2099 Жыл бұрын
My take on this is Harry learning about being a wizard just adds to the confusion. Surely, he's happy, because finally there is an explanation to some weird things he's been experiencing for the past years, but he's got tons of things to worry about. Dursleys do not support him one bit (they hate him actually), he's totally unfamiliar with what the wizarding world is actually like, he is afraid of what will happen with him at this new weird school, he might as well still be afraid that all this is just some mean, sophisticated joke playing out on him. So I guess, Rowling just wanted to take that money factor out of the equation for the little guy. Also, kind of funny when Harry becomes the youngest seeker, the school (if I remember correctly - probably McGonagall and Dumbledore pull some budget strings) goes out of its way to buy him a brand new, just released, model of exclusive broom. Talk about privilege - and Harry is one of the few children at school that could actually afford it himself. And Ron, three books later, has to suffer the shame of wearing some worn down, broke-ass retro robe for the ball - "I can buy you a new one, mate, I got you, it's the least I can do."
@V10C3
@V10C3 Жыл бұрын
I also believe theres a possibility that Snape could be a partial reason for Harries wealth. Snape took it upon himself to look after Harry and keep him safe so when he heard of the news of Harrys parents death he made some money for Harry could explain some of the silver and bronze, I doubt that Snape would be able to add much to the stack but I believe he made enough for Harry to be able to afford uniforms and various other things hed need.
@PencopiaPictorial
@PencopiaPictorial Жыл бұрын
Its been known for some time that Harry's ancesters made potions especially Sleekeasy's. That was divulged long ago.
@bobhanson1037
@bobhanson1037 Жыл бұрын
I really loved they made him well off. I always loved that it showed his parents were well off after all the shit his aunt and uncle said to him. Gave him confidence that he came from something and deserved so much better.
@bennitori4
@bennitori4 Жыл бұрын
I actually like this idea. He spent his life in the muggle world being told that his parents were losers, and so was he. And then as soon as he entered the wizarding world, all contextual clues were telling him that his parents were in fact very respectable. And seeing that they were prosperous and well off would be a good way to show Harry that his family and heritage was something to take pride in and be proud of. I don't care if it was wish fulfillment by JKR. Your spin on it makes an extremely good case for why it worked as storytelling.
@bobhanson1037
@bobhanson1037 Жыл бұрын
@bennitori4 great writing leaves up for many interpretation of the story. She had this story down. Just wish fantasic beasts had similar quilty. My only change to his character is him being a pro quidditch star and face off against Krum for the world cup to end it wearing his dad's number and having something to memorialize his mom along with everyone voldy killed with his family and friends there to cheer them in the best seats in the house with Harry smiling holding up his kids and the trophy that was renamed after Dumbledore. He'd have earned some of his fame, validation by the wizardry world, and recognized. Probably a dream come true for him especially after his childhood, and teenage years got ruined.
@DaleHammersIII
@DaleHammersIII Жыл бұрын
@@bobhanson1037 Pretty sure the moment he killed Voldemort he had all the fame and recognition he would ever need by the wizarding world.
@alienflorina
@alienflorina Жыл бұрын
Ironically Harry coming from a family of great potion makers and yet he was so bad at potions in school. But I guess the teacher makes the student, right?
@josepinto4451
@josepinto4451 Жыл бұрын
Harry was not a brilliant potion maker like Lily, but he was never a bad one either. Harry exams grades where always reasonable good and there where several instances during the series where he would brew a good potion only for Snape to either give him an underseved low grade or just blantly sabotage it. This made Harry hate the class, because he new there was no point in making an effort. If Harry had a proper teacher from the start he would probably be just below Hermione in the class.
@simonbionary11010
@simonbionary11010 Жыл бұрын
He was not bad at potions.... He recieved an "Exceeds Expectations" on his OWL exam which is the 2nd highest grade you can get.
@joelclifton6312
@joelclifton6312 Жыл бұрын
It's my thought that she also wrote Harry as rich to show, as one example of many, Harry's generous nature (his first act when finding out that he was rich was to buy all the goodies on the train and share it with his new friends), his inherent integrity and resistance to corruption, and lack of desire for power, which is an extremely important part of why Harry eventually defeats Voldemort.
@Dante199006
@Dante199006 Жыл бұрын
Loved the video, thank you.
@HarryPotterTheory
@HarryPotterTheory Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@farkmuckerzerg634
@farkmuckerzerg634 Жыл бұрын
Maybe James went into the Room of Requirement while thinking about how Lily was pregnant and how he needed to do something to provide for his soon to be family. The room of requirement hooked him up with some galleons
@MysticalJessica
@MysticalJessica Жыл бұрын
This was great! Everyone is like why doesn't Harry give money to Ron's family and I am like didn't he marry into their family?! His money is their money! ...besides they wouldn't accept it like that!
@genohall2235
@genohall2235 Жыл бұрын
Plus Fred & George were Loaded
@jayt9608
@jayt9608 Жыл бұрын
I would speculate that as the various Potter lines died out without heirs that there would a cousin or something appear from a different line of the family to claim the inheritance, or there would be a will specifying the next cousin to receive the bequest. If the Keeper of the Cloak was also considered the head of the family, it would be possible to keep the money moving into the vault over several generations. It could be that the only family members who knew about the money were those who received the Cloak, likely when they came if age. This would allow the keeper to select the most worthy of his the family to learn the secret. It seems likely that this was a probability because James and Harry are both only children, and there are not any Potter's left. It may be that James and Lily did not even know of their wealth, or were too distracted at the time to claim it. I believe there is some evidence of this as either James or his father were required to pass the information to Dumbldore. I lean toward James sharing this knowledge, because he passed the Cloak to Dumbldore, who is also something of an extreme relative by way of the legendary Three Brothers of lore. Now, why did James not drain his vast fortune in just the three years between graduation and his death? I think there are jus a few possibilities. 1) His father put a cap on how much he could withdraw. 2) His father confided in Dumbledore and Dumbledore was to play the role of guardian. 3) He just did not have enough years of safety to become wasteful. 4) He sought help. I believe that #4 is the most likely. We know that at some point he give Dumbldore the Cloak. If this was shortly after his father passed but before Harry's birth, he likely visited Dumbledore and confided everything to him. Additionally, like Harry, James married someone his opposite. This means that Lily would likely have curbed his worse instincts. Thus James was not in a place to be careless with his money.
@dillonrobinson2179
@dillonrobinson2179 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I never thought about where Harry's wealth really came from.
@rickd8174
@rickd8174 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad that J K Rowling got the financial success for her and her children. She created a world that we all can enjoy and deserves every single Knut.
@Hits191
@Hits191 Жыл бұрын
💯 despite what the rabid feminist and lgbt people say
@TheNotoriousCheeto
@TheNotoriousCheeto Жыл бұрын
I don't know about those royalties; in our world, things like trademarks, patents, and copyrights expire. What I AM curious about, though, is whether Gingotts paid interest on savings accounts, allowed for certificates of deposit, and so on. Were they the kind of bank that provided incentives for you to bank with them, or were they more like this sketchy banks that will hide your money from the government but you have to pay them to even have an account? It seems suspiciously like Gringotts has no competition and thus no need to offer incentives,, and goblins are not known for their generosity, so I am leaning towards the latter.
@michaelhughes7718
@michaelhughes7718 Жыл бұрын
Fleamont Potter was said to have quadrupled the family's wealth by inventing Sleekeazy’s Hair Potion and selling the company at a vast profit when he retired. So the Potters had a Potion company, then made a fortune selling it.
@simongreve
@simongreve Жыл бұрын
I like to think that a big part of the wealth is some sort of Hazard pay/life insurance/bounty James earned for stopping Voldemort. Likely the ministry wanted to control the narrative of Voldemorts defeat by making it one of their Aurors who defeated him and died in the doing. So they awarded him a bunch for his service so they as an organization could take credit for the defeat until they realized that the myth of the "the boy who lived" wasn't going away and they dropped their attempts to take credit.
@bobbytheitguy4289
@bobbytheitguy4289 Жыл бұрын
A better question might be: why did the wizarding community have their own currency. Why didn't they just use muggle currency? I have my own theory, but would like to hear yours.
@firelordOzai3
@firelordOzai3 Жыл бұрын
Because: reasons. Using muggle money on that scale for “off the books” transactions and maintain secrecy would have been impossible. They would have had to integrate into the muggle economy completely and allow the central bank to steer monetary policy for the wizarding world (which they would have to understand) as well as the muggle world. They would also have had to find ways for the money to circulate back because they would issue currency but wizards transact with each other and don’t buy muggle goods (think phones and computers) and services, if they didn’t do that prices would keep going down in the muggle world (relative to the money becoming more scarce and therefore more valuable) people would produce less delay big purchases and unemployment would be out of control, it would have been very tricky. Also imagine being a wizard and borrowing money for a £5000 flying broomstick😂😂😂. They wizarding world Is very behind when it comes to science and technology and banking is based on advanced algorithms and computation . No wizarding bank could compete with muggle banks when it comes to arbitrage, risk management etc
@Veritas-invenitur
@Veritas-invenitur Жыл бұрын
The muggle’s were hated by half of the wizarding world. Hated to the degree that countless wars had broken out over the years concerning going to war against them. So, a change in currency would not be possible. Also, magic can replicate/duplicate non-magical objects. Wizard currency must be magical as poor/broke wizards exist.
@bobbytheitguy4289
@bobbytheitguy4289 Жыл бұрын
​ @John Adams You've got half my theory correct in that wizards could probably replicate muggle money. But what's to prevent them from replicating muggle money and then converting them to wizard money at a wizarding bank? After all, the book does mention that there is a currency exchange between the two currencies.....
@Veritas-invenitur
@Veritas-invenitur Жыл бұрын
@@bobbytheitguy4289 Perhaps the Wizarding banks and only the Wizarding banks can detect duplicated currencies? That would fit as goblins are known to be able to detect counterfeits. The goblin topic does bring up another angle of why the Wizarding world has a separate currency. If the wizards choose to adopt human currency, the goblins would loose their purpose and rebel again.
@bobbytheitguy4289
@bobbytheitguy4289 Жыл бұрын
@@Veritas-invenitur Bingo...That's my theory. Wizard currency cannot be counterfeited because goblins can detect fakes, as Griphook said about the Sword of Gryffindor
@Rampagedd
@Rampagedd Жыл бұрын
His parents were 21 when they died?! Wow the films always gave the impression of 30s to me 😅
@elainebarnard6823
@elainebarnard6823 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for answering my question about Harry
@martinmcneal2778
@martinmcneal2778 Жыл бұрын
I always figured that before they died the set up a big life insurance policy, combined with money they have earned and/or inherited, Harry would have a decent amount after that
@macwelch8599
@macwelch8599 Жыл бұрын
What if James Potter’s side of the family adopted Harry?
@kaouther333
@kaouther333 Жыл бұрын
Ded
@katholmes7112
@katholmes7112 Жыл бұрын
Literally Mac, Harry was related to EVERYONE in the wizarding world and never should have been raised by the Dursleys. This was Dumbledore wanting total control over Harry and had nothing to do with Lily's sacrifice. In fact I have a theory that I believe I can prove that the sacrificial love didn't actually exist but Dumbledore said it did so Harry'd be under his thumb.
@N7Biotic
@N7Biotic Жыл бұрын
James Potter was born when his parent's were actually a bit older and was a only child. So this means that pretty much his relatives were deceased before he was born, or died when he was growing up. His parent's died probably before Harry was born I believe. Harry was literally the only living person left on his dad's side, after James and Lily died.
@macwelch8599
@macwelch8599 Жыл бұрын
@@katholmes7112 interesting
@robertdeffenbaugh9004
@robertdeffenbaugh9004 Жыл бұрын
@@kaouther333 Well not exactly like James’s Dad was raised by his Uncle Charlus Potter And Aunt Dorea Black.
@danielkennedy8355
@danielkennedy8355 Жыл бұрын
Funny that Harry Potter is rich because his family is a strong potion making family. And Harry is just not good at potions.
@shaneharun9571
@shaneharun9571 Жыл бұрын
He isnt terrible but he is no genius like his ancestors in potions
@bennitori4
@bennitori4 Жыл бұрын
@@shaneharun9571 I'm sure the fact that he hated his potion teacher for a pretty long time didn't help his lack of natural aptitude.
@lbell9695
@lbell9695 Жыл бұрын
He achieved an 'E' in his Potion OWLs which showcases that despite setbacks (Snape, lack of passion for the subject, not studying) he performed above-average. This is what he achieved in Transfiguration, Charms and Herbology as well. And I remember McGonagall saying she was pleased with Harry's Transfiguration OWL, which means getting an E is an achievement. I wouldn't say that he wasn't good at Potions as a result.
@SheyD78
@SheyD78 Жыл бұрын
One thing could be, that while stacks of coins are described, they're not necessarily the immense sums that one would like to imagine. Enough to cover a couple of tables could be all, which, while still a lot, doesn't have to be megawealth. If his parents had life insurance (assuming it existed in the wizarding world) something new parents might have invested in, he'd have the full amount from both parents available, even without the later written backstory.
@ryanpenrod1859
@ryanpenrod1859 Жыл бұрын
lol @ the Spongebob ukulele disappointment sound
@sterlingdennett
@sterlingdennett Жыл бұрын
In the books, we learn that Harry's grandfather on his father's side, one Fleamont Potter, invented what came to be known as Sleekeasy's Hair Potion, which Hermione used to tame her locks for the Yule Ball in year 4. Instead of producing, marketing, and selling the potion himself, he sold the recipe to the Sleekeasy company, for a VERY tidy sum. We also learn the Potter family was somewhat well-off even BEFORE Fleamont sold his recipe, which only added to their (admittedly minor) wealth.
@LongShaynx
@LongShaynx Жыл бұрын
It's so weird slughorn never mentioned Harry's lineage then, considering it would have seemed Harry had some of the family talent
@alcozar5905
@alcozar5905 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, loved it.
@LordSeth-hf8ew
@LordSeth-hf8ew Жыл бұрын
that sound effect is funny af poor weasleys bullied outside the pages
@griffingaming1450
@griffingaming1450 Жыл бұрын
I like to think that some of the professors that adored harry would go and put money in his vault every so often, including snape as while he may of pretended to hate him, there was no doubt that the love for his mother would also pass to her son and would see harry as a son of his own while also trying to hide that fact.
@Soul_Biscuit
@Soul_Biscuit Жыл бұрын
5:58 that moment you realize Victor Crum really needs a new barber 😂
@nickbyron6269
@nickbyron6269 Жыл бұрын
Love your vids but one tiny correction. Movie was called sorcerer's stone not philosopher stone. Sorcerer's stone is based off the real life theories of Nicholas flammels philosopher stone concept and is even mentioned in the 1st movie
@lindawallers4202
@lindawallers4202 Жыл бұрын
I don't recall hearing you say anything about compound interest. That would have helped the fortune to grow during the years between his parent's death and his coming of age to attend Hogwart's.
@MrNtlman
@MrNtlman Жыл бұрын
Considering his connection to famous potions and members of his family being excellent potioneers, it would've made absolute sense for him to be a great potioneer. If Snape wasn't his teacher in potions, it probably would have been his best subject aside from defense against the dark arts.
@c.w.8200
@c.w.8200 Жыл бұрын
Why would that necessarily be a hereditary trait though? My grandparents on both sides were farmers and factory workers who could barely sign their own name and my mom is an economics professor and my dad a doctor, this whole idea that you inherit intelligence or specific skills has arisen from the prevalence of nepotism and the influence of generational wealth on people's chances in life, my parents were lucky to live in a European country that provided them with an equal chance at education.
@enkisdaughter4795
@enkisdaughter4795 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered why Harry didn’t help Ron out (new wand, new dress robes, new owl so Errol could have a well earned rest), etc, when he had so much money.
@lxena8033
@lxena8033 Жыл бұрын
Harry did help out, indirectly with Ron's dress robes. He forced Fred and George to take his Tri-Wizard winnings. He asked them to do him a favor by buying Ron some new dress robes.
@MyAccount-mh9mf
@MyAccount-mh9mf Жыл бұрын
Not sure which part but I do remember him thinking about that in the books, but the Weasley's wouldn't just take it. Even the tri-wizard winnings, the twins were very hesitant on taking it. But the source this time is different. If that money came from his vault, I believe the twins will never take it no matter how desperate they are.
@DaleHammersIII
@DaleHammersIII Жыл бұрын
@@MyAccount-mh9mf The twins insisted Harry become part owner, was the only way they'd take it. They would take an investment, but not a hand-out. Which is another addition to Harry's fortune as well lol. Their store became ridiculously prosperous.
@LawrenceHanson2
@LawrenceHanson2 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it revealed in book 7 that his lineage came from one of the 3 ancient families that had the deathly hallows? If his lineage came from ancient ties, it stands to reason that so did the family fortune. Being wealthy like that I'm sure would have made young James as arrogant as it did to young Draco. Which was evidenced in Snapes memory. That's where I always thought it came from.
@Cristopher.C
@Cristopher.C Жыл бұрын
having steam coming out of your ears would be the single most torturous and painful experience of your life, and probably the last one.
@greencreekranch
@greencreekranch Жыл бұрын
Id imagine that with the important (symbolic) value of harry and his parents central role in the war against voldemort, many wizard families may have been ready to donate money, knowing Harry will at some point need it and that he won't have a family to provide for him. Kind of like gofundmes for fallen veterans families in our world
@MAE_Nerd_Out
@MAE_Nerd_Out Жыл бұрын
I always thought people gave money to “The Boy Who Lived” baby. Then it was all kept for him until he got older. This is really interesting.
@markorollo.
@markorollo. Жыл бұрын
that pic of muggle money gave me a thought, I wonder if they could exchange our money for their money somewhere. or even spend it in their world.
@christopherlitzner8445
@christopherlitzner8445 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered if the money stored in gringotts ever accrued interest, if so it would help account for the fortune after sitting idle for a decade it could have grown immensely.
@LordFalconsword
@LordFalconsword Жыл бұрын
I think this leaves out a huge component - the deathly hallows. James Potter inherited the greatest invisibility cloak ever. It only stands to reason it was 'used' a few times in the past to generate a few stacks of galleons.
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