Why Women Can't be Pastors

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New Kingdom Media

New Kingdom Media

Жыл бұрын

River Devereux draws from the Bible to explain how God's design of women makes them unable to preach, administer the Sacraments, or be in positions of Church leadership, and how by encouraging them to do this the Church has fallen into a serious error which she must repent from.
Paul Facey (‪@TheOtherPaul‬) on How Patriarchy is Not a Result of the Fall
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‪@MikeWinger‬ on How Female Submission is Not a Result of the Fall
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Mike Winger on Head Coverings (1 Cor 11) (Though I do not agree with all his conclusions as I think women should cover their heads in prayer)
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Mike Winger on Women being Silent (1 Cor 14)
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My video on the Eucharist
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@heatherslining3319
@heatherslining3319 Жыл бұрын
I am a woman and have always believed this is true. I know it is not politically correct now to say this, but thank you for having the courage to say this.
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sister!
@TheOtherPaul
@TheOtherPaul Жыл бұрын
A fantastic broad scope take down friend, gets right to the heart of it and stabs deep without getting bogged in the academic minutia (as much as I love that sort of stuff). Your defiance of pressure at the end channels well the spirit of Polycrates against the attempted tyranny of Rome against the tradition received and practiced by his people: "I, therefore, brethren, who have lived sixty-five years in the Lord, and have met with the brethren throughout the world, and have gone through every Holy Scripture, am not affrighted by terrifying words. For those greater than I have said 'We ought to obey God rather than man.'" P.S. Thanks for plugging my article :D
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
Thank you brother, your comparison is particularly humbling. And your article is excellent! I'll leave it to others to get into the textual debates, which are indeed important to be had, but for me, I feel like even having them concedes too much to the progressives. The Bible is clear, and we don't need to write massive tomes on 1 Timothy 2 to understand what it plainly says.
@TheOtherPaul
@TheOtherPaul Жыл бұрын
@@newkingdommedia9434 absolutely true there.
@DD-bx8rb
@DD-bx8rb Жыл бұрын
Are you saying, Polycrates was right, and you and I should celebrate Easter, on a day other than Sunday, as Polycrates did!!!? Interestingly, in your attempt (I assume and forgive me if I am wrong bro) to undermine the authority of Rome, you instead raise an historical event which illustrates the accepted authority of Rome. In summary, Iranaues as negotiator in the matter accepted Romes authority, Polycrates despite his poetic language toward the pope thought Romes authority important enough to engage with, and thirdly, a few decades later Romes stipulation on Easter observance was universal. Following is a little meat on the bones. Peace be with your spirit. Pope St. Victor as pope was to summon bishops throughout the world to assemble and draw up decrees to stipulate that Easter would be celebrated on Sunday. When the Asian bishops, along with their spokesman Polycrates, refused to follow Pope Victor, he threatened them with excommunication. Irenaeus, desiring to keep peace with the Asian churches, pleaded with Victor not to go through with it, but he never once challenged Victor’s authority to excommunicate. Irenaeus was not arguing that Quartodecimanism was superior to the Roman tradition; his own witness suggests that he preferred the Roman view. Rather, he was appealing to sanity and gentleness, not to make mountains out of molehills when it comes to legitimate differences in liturgical practice. This gentle rebuke seems to have worked. Eusebius concludes by saying that Irenaeus (whose name means “peace” or “unity”) thus “was well named,” since he “became a peacemaker in this matter, exhorting and negotiating in this way in behalf of the peace of the churches.” We have no information concerning the further course of the matter under Victor I (so far) as it regards the bishops of Asia. All that is known is that in the course of the third century the Roman Easter observance gradually became universal. In Rome itself, an Oriental named Blastus, with a few followers, opposed the pope and brought about a schism, which however, did not grow in importance.
@marianmatthews8263
@marianmatthews8263 6 ай бұрын
As a woman now in my 80's, and one who also prefers to have a man in charge of Leadership in the Church, I am also aware of the amazing work some women do in helping to build the Kingdom of God. I have also come to see that neither Jesus nor the Apostle Paul dismiss the gift of evangelism and even teaching in women in the Holy Scriptures. What I do believe and agree with is that God did place man to take leadership and protect women, and He does indeed call women "Man's helper". I also believe that in a perfect world where all men and women live as God intended, then His order will work well. However, the sad fact is that we are not living in a perfect world, not even within the church. We have seen plenty of male leaders fall to sin throughout the years,. I also know women who have had to put up with untold cruelty and bullying in their marriage and therefore have been left with no choice but to divorce their husband for the safety of themselves or the children. I have a precious daughter who went through this and it is terrible to witness. Unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world and Jesus recognised this when He met the Samaritan woman at the well. She was not only a woman, but a Samaritan woman who had been married five times and was now living with her partner,. We are not told who was responsible for her broken marriages, nor why she wasn't married to the man she was now living with. However, despite this Jesus offered her His water of life and she became the first evangelist who brought her whole village to Jesus so that they believed because they had seen Him for themselves. We also have the story of Mary Magdalene, the first person to see Jesus in His risen body. She fetched the male disciples who were all in despair! Philippians 4:3 (also written by the Apostle Paul) says, "And I urge you also, true companion, help these women who labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the Book of Life." The Apostle Paul also commended Timothy's mother and grandmother for the good teaching they gave him in his growing years. Lois and Eunice were two godly women who trained Timothy to know and love both God and the scriptures. Timothy grew up under the teaching of his godly and sincere mother Eunice and his grandmother Lois. This contributed to his ability to be an effective leader in the church. The Apostle Paul even praised Lois in a letter to Timothy “as one who passed on the mantle of faith to both her daughter and her grandson”. What I do detest is feminism - an attitude many women today have that they want to take over from men. This is a very ungodly attitude born out of revenge for the way they feel men have treated them throughout time. There is no place for revenge in the House of God. However, I do know many wonderful women whose only ambition is to reach the lost with the good news of Jesus. Some are excellent gifted teachers and evangelists. If we place women in a position of only being worthy of bringing up her children - which I agree is an absolute privilege and one of the most important tasks I ever did in my own life - we take away their rights even to share testimony in a church or out on mission. A few years ago whilst working alongside two male Pastors in outreach, I was asked to share my testimony in a large Coffee shop who invited us to lead a short service each week. On this particular occasion I was given a microphone and asked to give my testimony. It was summer and the cafe door was open so my voice could be heard clearly outside. A woman who was waiting for her husband to pick her up heard my testimony and ran into the cafe with tears running down her cheeks, sobbing, "I need Jesus in my life." It was an amazing experience and we gently led her to repentance and faith, and she went on her way rejoicing. We stayed in touch for many years. Had those two Pastors not considered women worthy of speaking, that dear woman may not know Him today. My testimony was her own experience, and therefore God used it to challenge her. Some of the most amazing missionaries have been women too. Jackie Pullenger to name but one. Not all women marry, and not all married women are blessed to birth a child. I believe that God is able to give wisdom to women as well as to men, and when He has a world who don't know Him, He needs every willing person in His army. Since the age of 15 when my Youth Leader told me he believed God was anointing me to teach young children, this is the mission I've carried out and continue to do. I'm very aware of the teaching of the Apostle Paul, especially to the Corinthian women, but we need to consider that in those days these women would have known nothing of the Hebrew Scriptures and were clearly shouting questions to their husbands, and disrupting the services. I also believe God is calling men to take the leadership role He has called them to. Sadly, many don't take up the mantle. I personally do not like women to become Bishops. However, we do need to see how Jesus Himself began to draw women alongside Him in His mission. When all men become as God intended at the beginning of time, and take up their role seriously, then I believe we shall see women blossom, especially in the teaching of children and other women, and maybe even opening the eyes of their husbands to greater wisdom. I believe God made us equal, but different. Finally, I know of a few small village churches where they would not have a church or congregation if it was left to men. I have been with a wonderful woman Lay Leader yesterday. Her husband died recently and if she doesn't continue the mission there is no man with the knowledge or God given calling or incentive to continue preaching and teaching the congregation. She is greatly loved. She is not a feminist, but simply a woman who loves Jesus with a passion and longs to see others coming to know Him as she does. She is a brilliant bible scholar too, and leads the people God has placed in her care in bible study and prayer. She is well past retirement age, not strong in health, but she is willing, with God's help to continue HIs work for as long as He needs her or gives her breath. I know another dear woman in her 70's in the Philippines whose late husband, a Pastor was called Home a few years ago. In the absence of any men, she has taken up the mantel and continues the work of leadership for the sake of the gospel and the people. If she gives up, there will be no church. What I do agree with is that sadly there are too many feminists in the church hierarchy today - and that is exceedingly sad. They think they are better than men and they don't speak of a calling, but a career. However, sadly there are also men who think like that.
@lakaylee1
@lakaylee1 Жыл бұрын
It is good to hear someone standing up for the Bible and the Faith. We are made to feel "ist", or wrong to say anything against the church hierarchy, or the selling out of the true word.
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, but God is on our side. If we are faithful to Him, He will be faithful to us.
@davesmith8218
@davesmith8218 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for breaking this down. In our current society anytime I try to explain this to people I’m shunned and called a bigot. God bless you brother
@theknight8524
@theknight8524 Жыл бұрын
This is a controversal topic....You are bold🔥
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
I'm done with keeping quiet about God's word. We will never make any progress as a Church and will only continue to suffer devastating losses until we stop making this error.
@jessienewman4748
@jessienewman4748 Жыл бұрын
As a believer in Jesus Christ, lover of scripture and a woman, I wholeheartly agree and commend you for standing for the truth.
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sister!
@mynameis......23
@mynameis......23 Жыл бұрын
@@newkingdommedia9434 Debunking catholicism I'm more blessed than mary Proof = Luke 11:27-28 27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” 28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” In Luke 11:27 that random woman LITERALLY said Jesus your mother is Blessed, but are Lord Jesus LITERALLY said Believers are more Blessed than mary. Amen and Amen _________________________ CHRIST alone John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. ACTS 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” There is only One Mediator between God and men, LORD Jesus Christ= 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus. Hebrew 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. Hebrew 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel. Hebrew 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises. Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by One Spirit to the Father John 15:5 5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. _________________________ Work of God = John 6:28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.” _________________________ 1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach Paul allows bishops to get marry, but catholic church goes against paul. Now these catholic will give a Verses from 1 Corinthians7 to say that paul gave the advice to stay unmarried. But they will not tell you that the same chapter they quote says 1 Corinthians 7:28 "even if you do marry, you have not SINNED". The passage literally says "young women, young men" and a bishop is supposed to be a Church ELDER. Mic drop _________________________ Jesus said Matthew 23:9 9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. And also said Holy Father to Heavenly Father= John 17:11 11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are. Jesus said call no one Father but still catholics call *pope holy father. Sad _________________________ Whenever a catholic argue about mary being the mother of God Use this to defeat the argument. Luke 8:21 But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.” Matthew 12:46-50 46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.” 48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”. Mark 3:35 For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother.” John 19:26-27 26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home. ( Jesus basically said John is the son of mary, and mary is the mother of John from that time onwards). By the way sarah is the mother of all proof=Galatians 4:21-26. _________________________ We should not pray to apostles Romans 1:25 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. Acts 10:25-26 25 As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I myself am also a man.” Acts 14:15 15 and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all things that are in them, Revelation 19:10 10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” Revelation 22:8-9 8 Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things. 9 Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God." Colossians 2:18 18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, You cannot go to Father through saints nor mary, you can only go to the Father through Lord Jesus Christ= John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father. Holy Spirit intercedes for us=Romans 8:26 26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And CHRIST as well=Romans 8:34 34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. Hebrews 7:25 25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. It's Christ and Holy Spirit who intercedes for us not apostles _________________________ Apostles are allowed to marry, 1 Corinthians 9:1-5 1 Am I not an apostle? Am I not free? Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? 2 If I am not an apostle to others, yet doubtless I am to you. For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord. 3 My defense to those who examine me is this: 4 Do we have no right to eat and drink? 5 Do we have no right to take along a believing wife, as do also the other apostles, the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas? If Peter (peter is cephas read John 1:42) the so called "first pope" was married, why does the catholic church doesn't allow "pope" to marry? _________________________ The so called vicar of christ/ pope/holy father Peter called himself a fellow elder in 1 Peter 5:1, and as per the qualifications of elder in Titus 1:5-9 the elder is allowed to get married; then why does the "pope" is required to be celibate and catholic? ( when Peter was neither celibate nor catholic). 1)Peter was not perfect human nor was he a perfect disciple 2)He sank down while walking on water 3)Our Lord said to peter get behind me satan 4)Peter reject our Lord 3 times 5)Our Lord rebuked Peter for calling fire from heaven 6)Our Lord rebuked Peter when he cut of the soilders ear 7)Paul rebuked Peter for being hypocrite because he was acting different in front of Jews and different in front of gentiles. 8) Moses messed up, and he was a important part of Bible ( that's why he never entered the promised land), 9)David messed up ( and he has the Holy Spirit), 10)King Soloman messed up, 11) Saul messed up and God regretted the decision (1 Samuel 15:10-11). Hatrick (Saul then David then Soloman back to back messed up) 12)The apostles run away a day before Lord Jesus got locked up. 13)The early church messed up Rev 2:18-20, 1 Corinthians, Galatians. 14) Apostle John when receiving Revelation worshiped an angel and the angel said "see you do not do that. Worship GOD" Revelation 22:8-9 If these great people could mess up, why do you think the catholic church wouldn't mess up. _ Galatians 4:21-26 21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar- 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children- 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all. Sarah is mother of all, Not mary Also the Church has many name like Christians, Evangelists, Children of God, Believers, servents of God, bride of Christ, but not once the Church is called catholics Changed the 10 commandments by deleting 2nd commandment, and dividing the 10th into 2 commandments. Also changing the real Saturday Sabbath to fake sunday sabbath.
@jacopgame3068
@jacopgame3068 Жыл бұрын
Based Chad Anglican fighting for the patriarchy. Chur chur good video
@omarparrilla738
@omarparrilla738 Жыл бұрын
I have to admit, this is very well done and thorough analysis of the subject. This is a very important subject that needs to be addressed and many leaders lack the courage to do so. I also appreciate your willingness to share sources from others outside your tradition (such as Mike Winger) showing your generosity and fairness when dealing with truth. I will watch this again since there is a lot of good insights here. Well done my brother!
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Much appreciated
@jamie842
@jamie842 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this.
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@emperorscoop7416
@emperorscoop7416 7 ай бұрын
100 % correct ! Thanks for the word 🙏🏾✝️🩸
@koyo3376
@koyo3376 Жыл бұрын
The effect "feminism" has had on Anglicanism is catastrophic. I pray that not only the Anglican Church but all Churches that follow Christ get their act together.
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
Amen.
@Tax_Buster
@Tax_Buster Жыл бұрын
What a truth bomb! Love this!
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@knightrider585
@knightrider585 Жыл бұрын
You make a good argument here. Thanks.
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@annamaria9225
@annamaria9225 Жыл бұрын
I am a woman and i completely agree with this,i shall rather trust God's word than world's wisdom(which will eventually leads to destruction),Man should lead the household!!!
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
God bless you sister
@formosa5411
@formosa5411 Жыл бұрын
Wow! What a fresh of breath air to be hearing a claim backed by scripture. I appreciate this very much 😊
@blackoutninja
@blackoutninja Жыл бұрын
Au Contraire- You've gained a subscriber
@ninerocks
@ninerocks Жыл бұрын
Amen brother. We certainly need more clear, faithful teachers and preachers of God's word in Anglicanism and of course the broader church. God bless you.
@DD-bx8rb
@DD-bx8rb Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a can of worms (should I say Diet of Worms) we have opened here! The presenter erroneously states the scriptures are "sufficient". 2 Timothy 3:16-17 states scripture is "profitable". "Profitable" is NOT "sufficient", and that is why Christ made his Church the Final Authority on doctrinal truth. This issue of womens ordination and role in the family is just another illustration of how the Protestant practice of "Bible as Final Authority" does not work, because amongst those holding "Bible as Final Authority", there are thousands of different versions of "truth" on women, ordination, culture, etc. A definate organ is required to infallibly decide any doctrinal issue, because Jesus Christ was never vague about the truth he promised. He established His church, to teach His truth, in His name, until the end. Furthermore, and interestingly, the presenter bemoans divorce. Is he aware Protestant groups originally held that both divorce and contraception were wrong "according to the Bible" and that in recent decades they then decided that divorce and contraception were permissable "according to the Bible"? Yet another example of the failure of "Bible as Final Authority". Clearly, the practice of "Bible as Final Authority" is not of Christ, as Christ is not confusion and division. But the presenter is searching for the truth, and I applaude him, and ecourage him to keep searching the truth of history.
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
God bless you brother
@DD-bx8rb
@DD-bx8rb Жыл бұрын
@@newkingdommedia9434 .No reply? In the video you say the Bible states scripture is "sufficient", but it only says "profitable.(2 Timothy 3:16-17). I would think an explanation from you is not an unreasonable expectation. I was reminded of Luther and how he changed the text in Romans to "faith alone". Look I understand your belief in Bible as Final Authority, but surely you would agree there is no need to change the words of scripture to defend your position?
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
@@DD-bx8rb What do you mean no reply? It says "that the man... may be equipped for *every* good work" Anyway, I have zero interest in turning this into a Cath vs Prot debate. Don't we agree on this issue? Stop being argumentative and actually find common ground for once. P.S. I love how within one minute of your random comment you already have 2 likes, which is frankly pretty sus.
@DD-bx8rb
@DD-bx8rb Жыл бұрын
​@@newkingdommedia9434 First can I say, I'm not against you, and also be assured I am very sympathetic with your concern about where the Anglican Communion is heading. I greatly appreciate your admonishment to "find common ground", and surely that involves being able to ask initial questions to find where we are at. so...I completely agree with you that the text says "Every good work". But it still says "profitable" for every good work, not "sufficient" for every good work. I just want to know why you would say the Bible states scripture is "sufficient" when it says Profitable? Peace be with you.
@aaronmalloy6012
@aaronmalloy6012 Жыл бұрын
I respect you for being completely honest. This is a topic that is close to my heart and I think you made a completely honest video on the topic.
@haydenfischer2453
@haydenfischer2453 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the truth of scripture. It’s sad to see the Church fall so far away from it. I pray more find the courage to speak out.
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! And yes let's keep praying that the church will correct her wrongs (she will eventually!)
@stephenmannion7544
@stephenmannion7544 Жыл бұрын
HI! I am an American Methodist pastor. I just discovered your channel and really like your content. I am in an egalitarian denomination, but am a complementarian. Wesley himself was a complementarian as an Anglican priest. Yes, he licensened women, but only as lay speakers, not as priests/elders. I'd be interested in your thoughts on Wesley as an Anglican. He was, after all, an Anglican priest to the day he died. He never intended Methodism to split from the church of England, but to be a movement within the church.
@Destroyercon
@Destroyercon Жыл бұрын
It's good to finally see a good traditional Anglican voice out there. Too often youtube seems to be only nondenoms, catholics, orthodox or calvinists.
@Thefirebird49
@Thefirebird49 Жыл бұрын
River, not so long ago you were strongly advocating the need to be proud of our rich Anglican heritage, and especially our glorious liturgy. Well, after listening to your teaching here one could be forgiven for asking, what is the point of remaining in the Anglican fold when now so many of our dioceses and parishes are being led by women bishops and priests? I totally get your frustration and anger about how Anglicanism has lost its way and share your concerns about its future. On present trends, at least in the rich West, where will the Anglican Church be in 10 -20 years' time? I'll tell you. It'll be a tiny, almost voiceless Church that tragically lost its ability to make many life-long conversions, mostly because its hierarchy completely sold out to modern secularism years before. It will be a slow, agonising death as more and more parishes shut their doors. But hey, we need brave, truly faithful people like you to call out this apostasy for what it is, and today your talk reminded me so much of the great yuletide saint John the Baptist - a voice crying in the wilderness! May I encourage you with the following thought; it's my experience that people of all ages today are literally crying out for deep spirituality and real meaning in their lives, and it is up to truly faithful pastors like yourself to fulfil and nurture their desperate need. Hang in there! God is bigger than the Anglican Church! 😀
@essequamvideri17
@essequamvideri17 Жыл бұрын
Amen, Brother!
@essequamvideri17
@essequamvideri17 Жыл бұрын
Would love to correspond with you and discuss theology. Im a member of the ACNA in the US and pray the daily office every day. Do you have an email?
@beowulf.reborn
@beowulf.reborn Жыл бұрын
God bless you for taking a stand on the Word of God, against the heresies of today's "Churches".
@beowulf.reborn
@beowulf.reborn Жыл бұрын
"I do not agree with all [Mike Winger's] conclusions as I think women should cover their heads in prayer." Amen. I pray that we see this Biblical practice return to the Churches of Christ.
@nicolapicola4502
@nicolapicola4502 8 ай бұрын
It's amazing to see this practice is slowly making a comeback, oddly enough initiated by women themselves who see it almost as protection!
@williambirt8557
@williambirt8557 Жыл бұрын
Great video River. Sick of seeing soft complementarianism and hard egalitarianism. Also sick of far too many offering a lack of scriptural support on both sides to support their argument, just random arguments based on how they feel about the issue. 1 Tim 2:12 is beautifully supported by the order of creation and Titus 1 absolutely nails leadership qualifications. I’ve heard people tell me that Paul only referred to the qualifications of the role as being masculine because it was contextual for the time which is utterly laughable. Pretty sure Jesus would have had a few female apostles if he was keen to switch things up haha. Loved how you pushed back on the societal standards for what men and women should be doing with their lives too, which sadly has crept into the church. both roles are completely important and honourable. I’m glad that you’ve raised it as an area for repentance for the church. God bless bro
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
Thank you brother and yes I totally agree with all your points.
@andybray9791
@andybray9791 Ай бұрын
So true
@JesusRodriguez-gu1wv
@JesusRodriguez-gu1wv Жыл бұрын
I guess does that mean I cannot learn from women? There are many women Christians who are authors and who are apologists, it sounds like that is wrong as well. And cannot preach, so they cannot spread the word of God since it's preaching. So it's having kids alone and caring for kids and that's about it? Yeah, they can work and give money and all that stuff. But it sounds like there is so little women can do. And not all women get married.
@BeniaminZaboj
@BeniaminZaboj Жыл бұрын
Yes, you right
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
Not I but the Scriptures are right
@BeniaminZaboj
@BeniaminZaboj Жыл бұрын
@@newkingdommedia9434 Ofcourse
@geoffgerardin
@geoffgerardin Жыл бұрын
My family is close to becoming Anglican. We long to find more rootedness in historic Christianity but still see the reformation as a necessary movement of God. The feminism in the ACNA is the one thing holding us back. Feminism is the beginning of the slippery slope of the sexual revolution. It is rebellion against God's created order. Thank you for your work. I pray you will be heard.
@jasonbryan3135
@jasonbryan3135 11 ай бұрын
I'm in the Dutch Reformed Church but may be moving at some point to an area that doesn't have any Reformed Churches but has a north american Anglican Church and the same thing is holding me back. The priest said he doesn't agree with women being ordained but he goes along to keep the peace and to be faithful to those above him. I agree with you in that it's a slippery slope.
@mitchmclean5435
@mitchmclean5435 9 ай бұрын
Have you considered the Reformed Episcopal Church, which is part of ACNA but conservative on these issues.
@geoffgerardin
@geoffgerardin 9 ай бұрын
@@mitchmclean5435 I have looked into it, but unfortunately the closest REC parish is about 6 hours away. Thank you for the suggestion!
@mitchmclean5435
@mitchmclean5435 9 ай бұрын
@@geoffgerardin Sorry to hear that. There are some other ACNA dioceses that oppose women's ordination such as All Saints and Fort Worth. You could also try the continuum.
@gustavoadolfoquinter
@gustavoadolfoquinter Жыл бұрын
I have been thinking about the role of ministers and their qualifications. I have read several translations as well; Some translations make gender an qualification for bishop or overseer while other translation one can only see men are only qualified from context .
@eric_eagle
@eric_eagle Жыл бұрын
One question for you: Do you believe the failure of the “mainline” continuing communion to deal decisively with WO is the iron & clay that will bring down the structure? As an American I am hesitant when it comes to the ACNA, for example. WO is tolerated, critical theory/critical race theory presuppositions still abound and enjoy amplification (a product of modernist seminaries), and superficial issues of form and order seem to occupy us more than authentic piety and devotion. What do you think? It seems like much of the communion can’t seem to figure out where it needs to go.
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
WO is similar to the 'high places' during the period of the Israelite and Judean Kings in the Old Testament. Even in the periods where good Kings moved the nation in the right direction and stopped committing various sins, they still didn't remove the high places (1 Kings 15:14; 2 Kings 15:35). So long as those high places were not removed, the total collapse and exile of God's people was inevitable because they had polluted His land. The Church has been polluted by a sinful and invasive species, a "strange fire" (Lev 10:1) and until it has been purged we stand under His judgement. There is still time though. God gave the churches in Revelation time to repent before He removed their lampstands. As someone like yourself who has recognized that WO is sinful, you need to voice that to the church like the Prophets once called Israel to repentance.
@eric_eagle
@eric_eagle Жыл бұрын
Man or woman, if you’re walking in harmony with God’s order, you will have peace. Every other way leads to turmoil, restlessness, and declension.
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@aidanmcwhirter2612
@aidanmcwhirter2612 Жыл бұрын
Hello I’m pretty new to Anglicanism and I was wondering if you could leave a reply or make a video about the topic of praying to Saints/angels. I’ve heard that some Anglicans pray to Saints and angels but I’d really like to hear your case for or against it.
@ahumblemerchant241
@ahumblemerchant241 Жыл бұрын
Good video, but I do have a few questions: 1) when referring to women being unable to preach, do you mean this entirely (that is, women cannot share the gospel, even if it's with other women or their own children) or simply for the office of public preaching? -And what of Junia and her role? How do you interpret her? 2) Regarding administration of the sacraments, where do you fall on how this affects ordination? Are even doctrinal orthodox men who were ordained by women invalid and illegitimate? 3) Regarding men being the ones to leave the home and women being the ones who stay at home--isn't this a bit too much reading our own times into the roles still? For a time in Scotland, the house and the business were practically one and often conjoined together by a room. The father and mother of the household shared more responsibilities, the father still being the head, but the wife assisting him with his work in a much more involved manner. I am a complementarian, but I do have to question the delineation of the roles here, for it seems to me somewhat influenced by the modern job market's expectation of how people live their lives.
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
1) Women are prohibited specifically from the office of public preaching or teaching during the Liturgy. Preaching is not the same as sharing the Gospel, preaching is authoritatively declaring God's word. Romans 16 is either saying Junia is "well known BY the Apostles" or if it does call her an apostle, it's the looser definition of "messenger" we see Paul use in Phil 2:25 of Epaphroditus. 2) I see "valid" as just meaning "lawful." A Eucharist is valid/lawful if the congregation or church body has lawfully appointed someone to perform that task. A woman might be ordained to administer the Eucharist, which makes it technically "lawful" in her church but it is not "lawful" in God's eyes. I do not believe God only recognizes some types of ordination (Episcopal, Presbyterian, etc.) as lawful. 3) This is a fair point. Nevertheless, a man is best suited to outward facing work towards society whereas the woman is more suited for inward facing work towards the family, even if they work in the same house.
@ahumblemerchant241
@ahumblemerchant241 Жыл бұрын
@@newkingdommedia9434 Thanks for the answers!
@candyclews4047
@candyclews4047 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it's OK for women to teach other women, young girls and children. Growing up, all my Sunday school teachers were women, all my Vicars were men!
@Robert-vv6qp
@Robert-vv6qp Жыл бұрын
I asked this question on Mike Winger's channel, If we recognize the difference between the Sign (head covering) and the Principle (Male headship), do we have a right to separate the two, if Scripture doesn't? The Salvation Army Church has replaced water baptism with a waved flag. I cannot accept that as a valid Sacrament.
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
Personally I don't think we can separate them and you make a very good point. Also yeah the Salvation Army is not a church
@Robert-vv6qp
@Robert-vv6qp Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your reply. I paraphrased the argument from the Head Covering Movement KZfaq channel. My church doesn't practice head covering (LCMS). I think it's good Christian's are talking about these issues, because of how they relate to so many problems in the world today.
@Michael-wm8un
@Michael-wm8un 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. It has helped me to learn a lot surrounding this issue.
@geoffgerardin
@geoffgerardin Жыл бұрын
River, could you share information on the status of women's ordination in the global Anglican Communion and GAFCON in particular? I think I understand the situation in the ACNA in North America, and it is disheartening. But what is the status around the world? are most Anglicans staying true to God's created order and reserving ordination to men?
@SmilingAbyssinianCat-ns3bo
@SmilingAbyssinianCat-ns3bo 4 ай бұрын
What is the position of the Church of Confessing Anglicans Aotearoa New Zealand on the issue of ordaining women?
@ashleysbored6710
@ashleysbored6710 4 ай бұрын
This was really good. But do women have the image of God or do they only have it through the image of man?
@garyboulton2302
@garyboulton2302 Жыл бұрын
This was strong but good. You're definitely not a "soft complementarian". I heard in an interview that in Jewish Synagogues where the men and women are separated, the next 3 generations are more likely to be conservative. Do you think the Church should adopt this practice? I think it might have even been a practice in the early Church.
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
When I was on a mission trip in India a few years ago they had segregated churches and I really liked it. The men and women bonded together more sitting together rather than in the West where everyone just sits in isolated families.
@garyboulton2302
@garyboulton2302 Жыл бұрын
@@newkingdommedia9434 Ah that's cool. I think it would be better to maintain gender distinctions. But I realise it could not be taught as a universal or binding commandment, but a tradition agreed upon by a local congregation.
@byhisstripes2713
@byhisstripes2713 Жыл бұрын
It's common practice in churches that have anabaptist heritage, so groups like mennonites and hutterites.
@garyboulton2302
@garyboulton2302 Жыл бұрын
@@byhisstripes2713 Oh, that's interesting.
@nicolapicola4502
@nicolapicola4502 8 ай бұрын
I am a 54 yr old woman and I believe entirely what you have said in this video. It has taken me a few decades to see through all the cultural lies, but I've got there, and now I actually value and appreciate this sound doctrine. Amazing grace of God. He knows best and His purposes prevail.❤
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 8 ай бұрын
God bless you sister!
@jezza8823
@jezza8823 Жыл бұрын
As a kiwi, are you not in communion with a church that ordains women to ministry?
@Karen-cc4wr
@Karen-cc4wr Жыл бұрын
In all of these conversations I see women referred to as wives. What about us women who are single? How can we be Godly, biblical women? And what about if we're unable to have children because of a medical issue and it would be too risky to do that? Can we choose to not have children or if we get married do we have to purposefully try for children and if we die whilst pregnant then it's God's will and that is our sacrifice to His will?
@nicolapicola4502
@nicolapicola4502 8 ай бұрын
Not sure if it applies, but I heard a lawmaker once comment that law is formulated on the rules, not the exceptions. We don't make laws in society based on individual cases, but on general truths. I think the principles of what this vicar is teaching can be applied to single and childless women, even if the specifics don't apply to a particular situation. One can still be submissive and respectful to the men in authority eg elders etc even if one doesn't live with them. One can still submit and assent to God's creation order even if we don't find our particular lives going in that direction. We can still teach younger women correct God-honouring attitudes. We can support other women around us in their walks with God and their husbands and family lives. I hear where you're coming from and am in the same situation. This is my take on it.
@redknightsr69
@redknightsr69 Жыл бұрын
This is the most animated you have ever been. Someone along the way has ericked your last nerve in regards to this subject
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
Yes. This is a subject that impacts me greatly.
@occasionalvideos3563
@occasionalvideos3563 Жыл бұрын
"Ericked your last nerve?" Is that a New Zealand phrase?
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
@@occasionalvideos3563 lol
@Isaiaheb
@Isaiaheb Жыл бұрын
@@newkingdommedia9434Yes because going against this is literal and blatant rebellion.
@thegoblin957
@thegoblin957 Жыл бұрын
17.20 am sorry but I have a hard time accepting this on logical grounds
@thegoblin957
@thegoblin957 Жыл бұрын
26.45 this seems like anti intellectualism too me. It's just blatantly obvious a person trained to understand a culture would have a better understanding of texts produced by said culture.
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
You're right. But that's not what these blind scholars are doing at all. Their explanations simply do not make *sense* of the texts.
@lid2771
@lid2771 Жыл бұрын
Genuine question. What about us women who have a child & a husband but simply cannot afford to live on just one income so the woman needs to work to help support the home?
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that, that's what my wife and I have to do as well.
@carlose4314
@carlose4314 4 ай бұрын
Do protestants have monks and nuns?
@thegoblin957
@thegoblin957 Жыл бұрын
26.48 who's to say a English plain reading is the same has a Koine Aramaic or Hebrew plain reading? That seems like a very dangerous assumption to make.
@gamerjj777
@gamerjj777 Жыл бұрын
Can women be deaconess or evangelists?
@daviddavenport9350
@daviddavenport9350 6 ай бұрын
The first several verses of Leviticus tell us precisely how to kill animals as a sacrifice to atone for our sins, which animals are suitable for which sins, and how to sprinkle the blood of these animals about the tabernacle in order to gain forgiveness.....yet, we modern religious are appalled at the idea of "blood magic" or "blood sacrifice"...we defy those strict instructions in scripture because they are abhorrent to us.....just as Paul's Middle Eastern extreme misogyny is now appalling to us.
@BeniaminZaboj
@BeniaminZaboj Жыл бұрын
Do more films on this. Go trough recorded exmaples of evil fruit of woman pastorship and you can do examinations of it. Strike Heresy of Woman Pastroship even more.
@davidsprouse151
@davidsprouse151 Жыл бұрын
If you believe in sola scriptura how do you square that with leviticus. Do you follow all those laws? And if you do, does that grant you more authority over those that don't? In other words do you believe in absolute purity? Blessed are those that believe and have not seen. The tradtion as you call it is created by those that HAVE seen. Who has more auithority the ones that believe like a child (without seeing, who are blessed) or those that HAVE seen. Which are you? And even if you hav seen, how do you square that with the obvious fact that language evolves. Do the attributes change? The tradition as you call it has been around since day one, 2 millenia. Do you really believe they haven't thought through these things? Have you even read Aquinas and Augustine? What are your thoughts?
@daviddavenport9350
@daviddavenport9350 6 ай бұрын
Scripture is clear.....I confess that some of Jesus' own parables are quite confusing...I still dont know what he was getting at in some of them.....and neither do the clergy apparently as there are myriad interpretations of some of them, all shaded differently. Likewise....what in blazes is Revelation about? the imagery in Revelations is baffling!
@MrGrahameg
@MrGrahameg 5 ай бұрын
Head coverings are not cultural. The Roman and Greek world, women had uncovered hair, often braided and done in ornate fashion.. ..Paul was addressing the gentile church and refers back to creation, that it is a shame to do otherwise as he knows of no other custom. Longer hair is their covering, and to cover their heads, in the church assembly. For any man to wear a hat or head covering is equally wrong in an assembly of worship.
@elizabethsackey4852
@elizabethsackey4852 Жыл бұрын
Let's of thanks. What about the women in the Church without husbands
@daviddavenport9350
@daviddavenport9350 6 ай бұрын
Yes! Women are humans like men...but with a slightly different body....By George....you've got it! Spiritually and in Christ, men and women are NO DIFFERENT.....even Paul admits that!
@francois-yassinemansour6289
@francois-yassinemansour6289 Жыл бұрын
Now that you know the truth about feminism and the LGBT+ lobby, please do not fall in cruelty and contempt against women and homosexual people like some evangelical fanatics do. The risk of turning into a Pharisee is real. Concerning the teaching about homosexuality (scientific condition unknown to bible writers), please read the Roman Catholic's catechism articles about it. It is a balanced and just teaching. Can't deny the Roman Catholic Church got some things right!
@SFayeLewis
@SFayeLewis 6 ай бұрын
What about women street preaching? If not then how do they minister to the lost?
@Alden-Smith
@Alden-Smith Жыл бұрын
Thanks man lots of fake Churches this helps me a lot thanks again
@colinlavelle7806
@colinlavelle7806 11 ай бұрын
Yeah and the Anglican Church is one of the fake churches!
@daviddavenport9350
@daviddavenport9350 6 ай бұрын
The "differences" between men and women that you speak of are purely a few anatomical differences and that fact has no place in considering matters of the Spirit......the physical and the spiritual are opposites.....and one has nothing to do with the other.
@daviddavenport9350
@daviddavenport9350 6 ай бұрын
Why do we value our female pedigreed dogs MORE than we value our human females? This has always bothered me!
@daviddavenport9350
@daviddavenport9350 29 күн бұрын
I just read that in ancient and not so ancient history, women were confined to galleries in synagogue and not allowed to participate in any way. This is the tradition Paul (Saul) came from....you really think that is enlightened and thoughtful????????????
@mikearchibald744
@mikearchibald744 Жыл бұрын
There are actually a fair number of genesis stories, and the 'helper' idea really didn't hold up in the biblical version. If anything the biblical version would have women being mens nemeses. Of course that also means Cain and Abel must have had sex with their mother to create the species. Of course thats not the only time that was recorded in the bible. The bible has many women who are not 'subordinate' to men, and good for them. The men seemed to constantly mess things up. And considering that at that time there really was no 'economy', then 'homemaker' is essentially what men did as well.
@daviddavenport9350
@daviddavenport9350 6 ай бұрын
The Anglican/Episcopal church began giving women ecclesiastical authority in the 1890s, not the 1970s....you need to refine your comments here.
@Andthethingwhich
@Andthethingwhich Жыл бұрын
Women should be subordinate to men as Christ is subordinate to his Father.
@candyclews4047
@candyclews4047 Жыл бұрын
Exactly and Christ does not feel put down or belittled by this - it is simply God's order of creation.
@Andthethingwhich
@Andthethingwhich Жыл бұрын
@@candyclews4047 I agree with the sentiment, but I've also realized that Social Trinitarianism is not a proper form of studying trinitarianism or biblical relationships. Jordan Cooper has a good video on it
@pkayVIP
@pkayVIP Жыл бұрын
QUESTION: If God would do what He absolutely loves doing - proving "wise" they are fools - and decided to return in a form of a woman. Because why not. Would you crucify Him again or what?
@williamwightman8409
@williamwightman8409 Жыл бұрын
I understand your misconceptions about the sexes. It stems from your fundamentalist, even first-order reading of the Bible. This is the fundamentalist dark little corner, a whirlpool they have trouble escaping. You are young and perhaps you will find a way to perceive the Bible as it is intended, as a manifestation guide of the Kingdom Within, and not some pedestrian reading of historical narratives. That, to say the least, is only scratching the surface.
@berniepfitzner487
@berniepfitzner487 8 ай бұрын
Waffle waffle waffle.
@benson0509
@benson0509 Жыл бұрын
Not too long ago (maybe a year ago or so), you laid out the argument for females as priest by way of the doctrine of "the priesthood of all believers." What changed your mind?
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
Nah that got misunderstood. I wasn't saying I agreed with it I was explaining their position
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
I have always believed this, but I used to think it was a secondary issue.
@benson0509
@benson0509 Жыл бұрын
@@newkingdommedia9434 Ah. Thanks for clearing that up. Great video.
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
@@benson0509 All good, cheers!
@frayzoid
@frayzoid Жыл бұрын
So close to the truth of the Catholic Church yet so far away...
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the Catholic church, the one that's united by "one faith, one Lord, one Baptism"
@francois-yassinemansour6289
@francois-yassinemansour6289 Жыл бұрын
Can homosexual men be pastors though? Are they men biblically?
@francois-yassinemansour6289
@francois-yassinemansour6289 Жыл бұрын
@thoskabrah that was not my question
@francois-yassinemansour6289
@francois-yassinemansour6289 Жыл бұрын
@thoskabrah thats still not my question
@francois-yassinemansour6289
@francois-yassinemansour6289 Жыл бұрын
​@thoskabrah So they should stop being homosexual and marry a woman to be in accordance with God's moral law ?
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
A man in unrepentant and grievous sin like that cannot be made a Pastor.
@francois-yassinemansour6289
@francois-yassinemansour6289 Жыл бұрын
@@newkingdommedia9434 Would you say the same for an unmarried heterosexual man who commits sins of lust, sleeps outside of marriage? Equal gravity?
@michaelcook7417
@michaelcook7417 9 ай бұрын
What a sad, frightened, little man...
@jammanstud
@jammanstud Жыл бұрын
Well my diocese in Chicago has a woman bishop and provost. We have many women and men serving side by side together to proclaim the great gospel of Jesus Christ our Lord. We have never had any issues with women clergy one bit and my sisters in God's house are the best in the business. Make Me wonder how you feel with gay guys like me who serve in God's house too. I hope you find the time to get some understanding on diversity in our blessed communion we all treasure. I pray for you to gain more wisdom than the latter. Always to God be the glory.
@abbottdietrich
@abbottdietrich Жыл бұрын
Repent and believe the Gospel, Christ died for your sins believe his word. Turn from homosexual sin and to Christ. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 New King James Version 9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. (A)Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor [a]homosexuals, nor [b]sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were (B)some of you. (C)But you were washed, but you were [c]sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. Brother turn from your sins and accept the Lord Jesus's forgiveness. Your identity should not be in Sin but in Christ. I am saying this for your sake. You need to seek Christ.
@ahumblemerchant241
@ahumblemerchant241 Жыл бұрын
I met with an episcopal campus minister, the gospel I am told is that there's probably a God, doing vaguely nice and socially polite things is good, that a man named Jesus Christ may or may not have existed and may or may not be God, believing in Him won't affect it either way, and that I should take communion despite any warning from what is supposedly regarded as God's word. What is this god I was preached? Is He just? Apparently, I'm allowed to think not so and that He's made many immoral mistakes. Is He loving? Apparently I can believe not perfectly so. Is He always true? Apparently it may be otherwise. I find it a mute god, no better than a devil. It is a god with an untrustworthy and cruel gospel and without help for my anxieties. It has no personality and rests on the laurels of perhaps, maybe, kind've being a good thing. If I agree with that definition of good, that is. It's a cheap thing to buy into, what do I have to lose? But then again, what will I have actually gained? I'll take something more than cheap comfort and the blessing of my sins, and I'll find it in a living Christ and an actual Gospel.
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 Жыл бұрын
@@abbottdietrich This.
@GaryBettmanSucks1
@GaryBettmanSucks1 10 ай бұрын
Amen brother, don't let these reactionaries get you down. Just keep doing the work of God. May God bless you and your diocese
@daviddavenport9350
@daviddavenport9350 6 ай бұрын
Paul's proclamations in this are purely cultural.....his attempts to link his pronouncements to Genesis to give them some sort of moral authority is a pretty feeble argument......
@daviddavenport9350
@daviddavenport9350 6 ай бұрын
re: God would have shown us......NO because Paul was a Middle Eastern misogynistic ex-pharisee, coming from one of the most misogynistic societies ever....his thought process much closer to Al Qaeda than to modern, enlightened Western thought. it has taken us a full 2000 years to shake off the silly taboos that Paul has been given credit for in his epistles......much to our shame.....you want desperately to cling to these silly 1st C. taboos....
@GaryBettmanSucks1
@GaryBettmanSucks1 10 ай бұрын
So bitter, so sad. May God soften your heart. So proud to be a member of the Episcopal church and I love embracing INCLUSIVE orthodoxy because the two are not mutually exclusive no matter how angry it makes people like you
@newkingdommedia9434
@newkingdommedia9434 10 ай бұрын
You need to repent and believe God's own word and self-revelation, rather than only believing the parts you agree with, which is idolatry.
@GaryBettmanSucks1
@GaryBettmanSucks1 10 ай бұрын
@@newkingdommedia9434 I'm surprised you can see your keyboard with that log in your eye brother. I will keep you in my prayers 🙏
@GaryBettmanSucks1
@GaryBettmanSucks1 10 ай бұрын
My Gay Rector preaches and knows the gospel better than you, and so does the woman interim rector that preceded him
@berniepfitzner487
@berniepfitzner487 8 ай бұрын
Does he tell people to repent like Jesus told them to repent?
@GaryBettmanSucks1
@GaryBettmanSucks1 8 ай бұрын
@@berniepfitzner487 absolutely he does
@Thelucky23
@Thelucky23 11 ай бұрын
I have a hard time with listening to “teachers” on subjects like this.. it sucks when you have planks in your eye but want to pluck everyone else’s out!!! 😢🫠🥰
@GaryBettmanSucks1
@GaryBettmanSucks1 10 ай бұрын
AMEN
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