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As someone who operated those subs for 6 years, I can tell you they will never die

I think having an open water attraction, no matter the quality, acts as a nice ambient sound feature as well as offering a nice contrast against all the steel and concrete of the rest of the park, especially Tomorrowland. I think things would feel very flat without the lagoon.

I only rode the subs once in 2019 and I really enjoyed it, but yes, loading and unloading, claustrophobia, tiny stairs make it difficult to get in and out. I wish they could re-design the subs to do easier load/unload. Also telling that when Disney decided to open a 20K Leagues ride at DisneySea, they made it...not underwater at all, just SEEMS like you're underwater.

Unpopular opinion I know, but I've always wanted a revamped 20,000 leagues ride. Bring back the theme but with updated everything and practical under water effects/animatronics. I'd love for them to lose the digital junk and give us a new sea monster 🤷‍♀️

Can I just say when they closed Submarine Voyage in 98, as a small child I was absolutely devastated. I LOVED that ride and I will fight anyone that says otherwise. Call me a weird child but I certainly liked seeing fake mermaids and fish on string over flashy, expensive CGI fish in some boxes underwater. This is my weird hill I will die on.

All hail the subs may they never leave!

The subs are the reason we got Turtle Talk with Crush. If we loose the subs, we could risk it for my man Crush.

As a business owner, I can tell you that in big decisions like these, the bottom line is the bottom line. It’s always ultimately a matter of dollars no matter what anyone else says. The reason the subs are still there is because it’s less expensive than removing them. They could make the lagoon non-functional for the subs, like Disneyland before and also Walt Disney World. Just a waterway to look at, without functioning sub vehicles. But as others have said, the sub lagoon is so integrated into that huge chunk of tomorrowland, involving the monorail track, the Autopia cars, the old People Mover track, that tearing it out would require prolonged closure of Autopia and the monorail. Look how long the Walt Disney World railroad has been down just because it runs across the entrance to the new Tron roller coaster Construction site. In the bigger sense, it means that Disney does not know what they want to do with Tomorrowland. They’re not gonna invest all that time and money into closing the ride, to have to totally redo Autopia, suspend monorail service, Finally deal with the people mover track and rip it out,and not tackle the rest of the land. Because it involves three or more projects in one, we can read between the lines and know that there is no new version of tomorrowland yet that is ready for Disneyland, therefore in the big picture it’s just easier to keep the subs running. And, as other have said, it is a big nostalgia thing as Walt Disney himself had influence and its creation and rode the subs himself. Ripping it out would probably cause outrage even bigger than when we lost Mr. Toads wild ride in Florida.

Chapek inherited Avengers Campus and New Toon Town. Those projects were started under Bob Iger's watch. Remember, Chapek has gone on record as saying, just like Eisner, that people aren't being charged ENOUGH for the parks. THAT, is troubling if you ask me. We'll have to see what happens when the Iger projects run out, but if the plants around WDW Haunted Mansion are any indication, the parks may see a lot of run down and soon. Enough staff on hand or not.

There is an obvious way to improve the subs. BOARDING GROUPS. Get rid of the line completely and install an interactive play queue. People grab boarding groups throughout the day and only have to virtually wait like 20 minutes. It could be a tick down like mobile order. It would get more people on it.

As much as I love Finding Nemo, I feel like the attraction might've been better with an Atlantis theme. Also, maybe no Disney theme at all. The lagoon itself is strong and maybe if it was just centered around marine biology and nautical themes and not leaning too much on Disney/Pixar branding, it might work better.

It’s nostalgic at this point being one of the earlier attractions when Walt was still around. I like to keep it around and I still ride it when I visit 🙂.

I don’t really understand why everyone hates on the Nemo Subs so much. I think the lagoon is beautiful and the ride is really cute! To me it’s just a cute little dark ride with an interesting ride vehicle. I’m horribly claustrophobic and even I could handle the sub. Yeah it is super slow loading and the queue is horrible - maybe if they built an air conditioned, interactive queue, that would help? Idk, I like it and hope it stays.

My uncle, who is a painter for Disney, has painted these submarines at least 3 times now by himself. He hates this ride, and is probably the only guy in the world to paint an entire fleet of submarines by themselves 3 times

I think they’ll hit it when they get around to doing a complete retheme of Tomorrowland. I think Autopia and Nemo subs will likely go away or be completely rethought. This would give them the opportunity to rework both rides (including doing work on the monorail). I would like to see a purpose built version of the rocket rod. A lot of the issues that ride had was as a result of trying to use the people move infrastructure for something it was never designed to handle. Overall I just think Tomorrowland needs a complete and total reboot and reimagining; not a simple coat of paint. Definitely enjoyed the Solar Punk take you had!

Do NOT get rid of these... in fact, the Nautilus was an amazing ride and cool looking sub. We dont have underwater rides... this adds another feature to rides. However, maybe, lets come up with a way for faster lines.... on these underwater rides.

My great-grandfather literally worked on those subs. He worked in the shipyards where they were built. We don't touch the subs. plus, we need more terrain of interest or we're gonna become a concrete jungle like MK. See? I had a legit answer that wasn't just emotional.

The main problem is that the subs are uncomfortable. The old Nautilus exterior design was based on Captain Nemo's submarine which was a spacious luxurious vehicle but the interior did not reflect this. The interior should *feel* spacious and luxurious and probably a little steampunk. How? I don't know.

I love it. They should keep it (always). This ride is the closest we will ever get to riding an actual sumbarine! It's a very cool experience 👍🏻👍🏻

Keep them. First because they are nostalgic. I rode them for the first time in the 60's and they are part of my Disneyland mories and park history. I also don't have a lot of faith at this point in time about what would replace it would be more than something they slapped together on the cheap. Don't get me started on the Tomorrowland refurb, innoventions, Rocket Rods, etc

First rode the subs in 1964, and have ridden them a number of times since. Was happy when they reopened. The Finding Nemo part was a little disappointing. Looked like TV screens. Hopefully the rehab will improve the experience. The Atlantis version would have have been cool.

Me personally, I would be happy to see these turned into the 20,000 Leagues counterpart that was once in Florida. It would another way to pay respect to Walt while keeping the subs open and themed from a movie he oversaw. With technology now anything is possible!

It’s much more important that we get the people move back then remove subs. If the subs are here to stay, I’d like them to bring back the mermaids in the middle of the lake. That’s a great fantasy detail, and I always thought it was weird the Arielle meet and greet was on land.

I’ve been told by my source who worked Disneyland for many years that Disney gets paid to run the Subs and Monorail by the city due to their historical significance. Being the first recreational submarine fleet and the first monorail in the Western Hemisphere. I think that they’d be better off rezoning it to Fantasyland due to the Pixar connection with Nemo, and to me it just fits better alongside Matterhorn in Fantasyland

It's not just Autopia on top of it, it's the monorail and PeopleMover tracks too

As someone who only has been able to go to Disneyland once, this is by far, the coolest ride in the entire resort. It absolutely took my breath away at how immersive and spectacular it was. I hope they never get rid of them! They have too much potential long term and historical value. Also we lost ours in fla, should never have got rid of it.

Keep the lagoon as a water feature only, but fill in the tunnels. Gut the Innoventions/Marvel/Star Wars/whatever-it-is-now building and build the Tron coaster queue/loading dock inside that building. Route the track around the lagoon & over, under & around Autopia & the Monorail track.

i prefer the classic Submarine Voyage to the Finding Nemo version--it was one of my favorite rides as a kid, along with Jungle Cruise, (the roller coasters were a bit too intense for me at that age) and the current one seems a little too hokey and "topical", so to speak, whereas the original had more of a timeless feel to it. there's also an immersion-breaking bit with the naval mines and anglerfish where the light of the "explosions" lets you see the back of the showroom, especially the corner where the wall turns into the ceiling, while there wasn't a problem with the original. personally, i'd change it "back" to the original version with updated tech, MAYBE keeping some of the screens but not overusing them, but adding some items and scenes from basically every Disney movie that has some underwater scenes, including some Finding Nemo scenes, even "crossing over" with some other attractions such as the graveyard of ships alluding to Pirates of the Caribbean. maybe have the Heart of Tefiti pulsing with light somewhere. even Atlantis: The Lost Empire could work--the scare-factor of the deep ocean scene could be reworked to use the Leviathan instead, for example.

I had the same "water nice" feeling about the Magic Kingdom version. I'm still sad about losing that. Especially since it was replaced with an uninspired generic Ariel ride.

This is probably one of my favorite rides of all time and I’ve only ridden it once when I was 5 years old. This ride is one of the reasons I’m going to study Oceanography and possibly navigation in college so yeah it’s really important to me lmao. The contrast between the concrete of Disneyland and the clear blue water of this ride is just so beautiful and the fact that it’s actually underwater instead of projected water is the coolest thing

Although the subs may not be the best ride, in more ways than one, I do find some charm in boarding the subs and just relaxing and looking out the windows. Also the lagoon and the matterhorn, sometimes the monorail too, is a classic mix of Disney. At least in my opinion.

Submarine Voyage was my favorite theme park ride. It captured my imagination as a kid, and I'm glad it lives on in some form even if it's Finding Nemo. I'd love to see it go back to basics and become a 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea inspired ride again.

They’d also have to shut down the Monorail as well. A half dozen columns sit on top of the sub caverns roof. You basically had 4 layers of transportation: the sub caverns, Autopia, the Monorail beam, and the Peoplemover track.

I just like how the ride looks... the ride itself is just meh. Especially at night with the Matterhorn in the background, just beautiful!

*Honestly, i think that Disney should make a new Submarine attraction based on the "McDuck sub lab of the future" from the Ducktales 2017 cartoon. They could make a scaled down version of the sub lab with forced perspective in the bottom of the ocean and you could travel in one of the McDuck submarines and see all of the bioluminescent rainbow Krill inside a cave.*

i feel like these subs are like the teacups, they're so iconic to the disney parks (even in their current half life state) that it would be removing a piece of history to take them out or stop them all together. disney's sort of stuck between a rock and a hard place here where keeping them is causing issues, but removing them/revamping the ride entirely would cause more issues.

From what I have heard is once they redo Tomorrowland the only things that will survive is Spacemountain, Monorail, and the train station. Since the show building for the subs was built beyond bomb shelter strength they been stumped on how to tackle that portion of the land since a portion of that space that makes up the subs and Autotopia will become part of Fantasyland for a expansion. Funny thing is it was during a peoplemover track inspection to see if they could repair/remove the track along with start to get ideas on what to do with the land that the engineer suggested to level the land and rebuild from scratch instead of trying to repair and repurpous the individual spaces. The Star Wars Launch Bay building foot print is large enough to house a second Spacemountain so there are options of how to keep the number of E ticket attractions in the land when they reopen the land without bringing back the Subs. They could easily keep the lagoon and have fountain and lights inside so to not effect the interconnected waterways in the park while making it like the world of color body of water so guests could walk all the way around it since currently many guests are unable to find the train station due to the bottleneck path by Autotopia, allow better access to the Monorail station without having to mess with the current supports, and since if they level the whole land it will mean they can redesign where Pixie Hollow, Buzz, and Tomorrowland Terrace currently is into something better that fits into the new theme of the land. Now for the timing for the remodle could have been placed on hold until they know the fate for the resort expansion plans since in the plans they have a whole land based around Tron but if they don't get the OK for the expansion they could easily move the plan for the attraction to Tomorrowland since it's still a futuristic theme that would blend nicely with Spacemountain and the Monorail.

I love the subs, in all forms. They are a Disneyland staple. Grateful to have ridden it in the 90’s and now love the Nemo overlay. It’s technology and experience is something truly unique. I also think it’s absolutely captivating to children under 12. As a mommy now, it’s the one ride I can’t wait to take my 2 year old daughter on next year. She just got into Nemo and I think this is a great way to introduce her to sea life. ✨

I probably started riding the subs in 1966 or so, and to a little boy of 3 this was the coolest ride ever. I got my own porthole and AC vent! Is there anything else like it? Personally, getting tired of just another roller coaster. They are all the same. You’ll understand as you get older and search your memories for happy thoughts from your childhood. Simple as that.

Did....did Uncle Walt cop a feel during the christening of the submarines? Nevermind she would have gone overboard......

I can't think of any other submerged attractions, I think it's a great concept that's worth preserving, also about the whole replacing it with Tron ride idea isn't the best in my opinion, it's just another family coaster and has a bland glossy futuristic style.

I went on the submarines kinda recently (right before the shutdown) for the first time since I was little so it had probably been like 20 years, long before the finding Nemo overlay. It’s cute BUT! they could replace it with a living with the sea omnimover sort of thing. Keep the finding Nemo references, make it modern with the screens maybe even motion capture like the secret life of pet ride system, and it just leads to an educational marine area. It can showcase sea exploration technology to make it Tomorrowland themed but those submarines have to go!!!

🤣 Your constant plugs about the People Mover always have me dying. I totally get it though, my first time to Disney World I rode it on a practically endless loop for 45mins. I absolutely loved it, we totally need one in California!!!! BRING BACK THE PEOPLE MOVER!!!

I could see them doing a continuous loading system going off similar to the Haunted Mansion so it's not such a PITA to load/unload/see. Have the loading area above the the water (obviously) and as you go down it lowers into a "fish bowl" which is your personal sub to see everything.

I could have sworn they were dumping the subs because of handicap accessibility. I guess not.

I loved the subs as a kid and that’s why I think the subs should stay. This ride is so memorable for kids visiting for the first time, more than most other attractions. The subs could use a revamp of sorts but it would be a shame to lose the lagoon.

I tend to feel claustrophobic inside the submarines so it is one attraction I often skip when visiting the park. But although I don’t enjoy riding it I still kind of like that it’s there. I love walking by the Matterhorn and seeing the lagoon especially with how it glows at night and I like seeing the view going over it in the Monorail. I appreciate it more for the beautiful and peaceful ambiance it offers, if they were to remove or replace it I would miss it for that reason.

I do love the subs so much... it's so nostalgic, and I really do think rides like this have a ton of potential. Where else can you go underwater in a submarine? It's one of those magical Disney moments that's so iconic to me

Technically, 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea was replaced by Pooh's Playful Spot, a play area where kids could play near the Winnie the Pooh ride, which THEN was replaced by 7 Dwarfs MineTrain and the tree in the play area was placed near the Pooh ride. The tree, itself, has a Nautilus carved into the bark inside.

The Disney subs yesterday, the Disney subs today, the Disney subs forever.....

This guy enjoys the subs, nice and relaxing. Then having fun and singing along with the song at the end as you wait to unload.

Maybe it could be a walk thru type deal? Would be a good spot to cool off on hot days..

As a Finding Nemo Sub rider, I remember waiting 1 1/2 hrs in line as a kid when it first opened (probably longer tbh), but once on the ride I loved the submarine ride aspect. The storyline with Nemo was eh, but the diving effects, being in this dimly-lit underwater cabin, and seeing the special effects were really cool (especially at night). As an adult now: The ride is still cool, but less so because of poor air filtration, a tight, compact cabin, and the monotonous feeling of going the same speed the whole time while not knowing how long till the end. I don't think Disney needs to remove the lagoon but I do think they can come up with something better in that spot. Maybe a walkway exploration experience, such as the Artic Adventure in SeaWorld (I know the Lagoon is waaaay smaller but a similar idea would be cool).

I still remember waiting in line for a long time when the finding Nemo subs first opened in 2007 and being bored on it. It gives that area life, even if they got rid of the subs all together and left the lagoon as a nice visual I wouldn't mind

I never knew they were gonna be rethemed to Atlantis (or Treasure Planet.) I am sad we didn't get that now :(

I don’t enjoy the ride as much as others. But it does add a very magical dusting to that atmosphere at night. The ride it’s self could stand to have a few alternate story lines; like how galaxy’s mission break out does. The subs load and unload has always been my least favorite part of the ride as well as the unfortunate smell from within the subs.

Heres a story. When I was 4 (so around 2007) I wanted to go on this ride for the first time. The wait was 2+ hours and stretched to the Matterhorn. Me and my mom waited. The parents around us complained the entire time but I was patient and silent. We ride it and after my mom asked me if I liked it, I said "eh" and went on with my day. I remember being scared of the angler fish.

I love the subs. Also, yes, they occupy a lot of space, but a lot of that space is shared with the monorail station and the Autopia track so, only about half of the space that the subs take up is solely for the subs, and that part is pretty to look at!

When I was growing up the Submarine Voyage was one of my favorite attractions. No trip to Disneyland was complete without a ride in the subs. But it has now been almost two and a half decades since I have ridden. Heck, it's been 17 years since I last visited Disneyland and I have never even set foot inside DCA (despite having worked on new attractions for both parks). It simply hasn't worked out for me to go. So I have yet to experience the Finding Nemo version of the Submarine Voyage in person. Even so, I still have a deep fondness for the attraction and would love to see it revamped with a new science fiction narrative to fit better with the theme of Tomorrowland. Actually, I would like to see Tomorrowland revamped and restored to the 1967 design motif and have the land embrace retrofuturism which would keep it from ever becoming "outdated". The big problem with retheming/renovating the Submarine Voyage is that anything that makes it new again will draw big crowds and the attraction simply can't process big crowds in a timely manner. Despite this unfortunate conundrum I still think it is worth doing. The Subs need to stay for esthetic reasons more than purely entertainment reasons. And no other Disney Park has something comparable. Yes, Tokyo Disney Sea has its 20,000 Leagues attraction, but its dry-for-wet design doesn't hold a candle to really being underwater. Excellent video. Enjoyed it thoroughly.

Yank the subs, Autopia and the round about and keep the lagoon. Build a Tron coaster with the canopy going out over the lagoon so the light cycles do their outdoor loop portion over the water.

Last time I went to Disneyland was 10 years ago and the subs were closed. This time, last week actually, got the chance to do the ride. It's a lovely attraction, sweet, funny and very Disneyland. I want them to stay.

Dallin.....You are SO GOOD at this....Your heart, your deliciously berzerk creativity, your unerring sense of the original deep mission of the park. And this makes you perfect to help Disney retheme this immortal, vital, Anaheim mainstay.

I rode the submarines once, about ten years ago on a trip with my mom. It was so cute, but we both got so motion sick we had to close our eyes for the last part of the ride. We bought Sprite after and sat in the shade under the tree sipping on it for about a half an hour until we both felt better enough to get up and go on another ride. It's a shame because it was so cute, but that's definitely the first and last time for me.

I miss the original Disneyland subs! And I waited in an even longer line to ride the Nemo subs the year it opened up. And I do enjoy it as it is now. I would be sad if it were gone forever. If they replaced it, I’d want another “underwater” ride. But if I were in charge, I’d take the original subs and then way plus it up with modern effects mixed in.

I bet a shiny nickel it's getting updated to be a "Luca" themed ride

I went on the sub years ago and told myself never again lol I got so much anxiety being down there, but my younger cousins loved it because of Nemo. I love the lagoon though, especially at night!

20,000 Leagues Under The Sea is one of my fondest memories of visiting WDW when I was 8 years old. I was truly saddened when I learned they were doing away with them there and hope they find a way to keep them at Disneyland.

Thank God you're not an Imagineer or in a position of authority at Disneyland. I don't understand how an alleged Disney fan and admirer of Walt Disney would advocate for the removal of a classic Disneyland attraction, particularly one that Walt was so proud of that he wanted to show it off to a Communist world leader. Thank goodness, Disneyland management has learned from its shortsightedness in the closure of the PeopleMover (another of Walt's classics) and the removal of the Skyway. All three Tomorrowland attractions added so much kinetic energy to that land. I wish I could have personally experienced it in its hay day. And I know that I would not at all be satisfied if the monorail were the only remaining attraction in Tomorrowland to provide kinetics to the landscape. You dismiss the Subs as an outdated technology of the 1960s, but submarines are still relatively inaccessible to the general population, unlike the automobile and the interstate freeway system represented in Autopia. Rather than advocating for the removal of the Subs (and wishing for another clone of the TRON Lightcycle Power Run), why not appreciate the unique (water based) submarine attraction that exists and wish for its "plusing?" Rather than applying a non-Tomorrow based IP that Tony Baxter used as a quick fix to save the attraction, why not consider a whole new backstory unrelated to any cinematic storyline? The Society of Explorers and Adventurers is timeless. The organization dates back to the Renaissance in Fortress Explorations at Tokyo DisneySea. They made their public debut during the height of the British Empire in the Adventurers Club at Pleasure Island. Mary Oceaneer, a late 19th century member of SEA has a presence at Disney's Typhoon Lagoon as well as aboard the Disney Magic cruise ship. Glacier Bay was a proposed SEA arctic outpost for Hong Kong Disneyland. Like Disneyland Paris' Discoveryland and Tokyo DisneySea's Port Discovery, it would have been Steampunk in style to reflect its time period. Why not represent SEA in the future? Why not offer guests the opportunity to join SEA in an expedition to explore the wonders of the oceans? Perhaps the objective of the journey is to take guests to Glacier Bay, only to scuttle those plans after encountering a newly discovered sea creature in the depths of the Artic Sea. (If not Glacier Bay, it could easily be a journey to SeaBase Alpha or an underwater city of the future.) The Subs may have a low throughput and that one area of Tomorrowland may be congested with the queues for the Subs, Autopia and the Monorail all originating next to each other, but that could also be addressed with the removal of Autopia, the truly outdated attraction of Tomorrowland. Autopia should be replaced with something other than automobliles. Autopia occupies some valuable real estate atop the submarine show building, but especially in its load/unload area between the Subs, the Tomorrowland Train Station and the former Carousel of Progress building. Tomorrowland doesn't need a clone of TRON, especially if it has to be scaled down in such that it's as inferior to the original as Magic Kingdom's Pirates is inferior to the Disneyland original. Tomorrowland needs some imagination and adventure and an optimistic view into the future. TRON might be "pretty and new," in terms of attraction, but the realm of TRON is pretty bleak.

I remember riding it when the attraction first opened, and I personally thought it was interesting. I believe I was around 5-6 and I kinda figured out how they made you believe you were actually diving down. I think with our modern technology today, we could make a way cooler marine life kind of ride. Although I hate to say it, the Finding Nemo or Dory idea for this attraction is dead. Finding Dory had no impact and is not really relevant. Like how the Matterhorn has the Abominable Snowman, I think the submarine voyage should look for a creature of fantasy, like the giant squid or something. I think that would catch a lot of peoples attention and it could maybe work.

I knew an "imagineer" when I was younger. He was working on a small rollercoaster that would have gone over the lagoon, but obviously that plan was sunk by the nemo subs. I like the subs but it might just be nostalgia.

I think this has potential to become a great educational attraction about marine biology

I rode 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea at Walt Disney World back in the 80s. I remember being in aww of the adventure of being in the move. It stands out in my mind to this day. I think an updated version of that ride would be cool and fit in Tomorrow Land better than Finding Nemo.

Honestly I don’t want the lagoon gone yet. As a kid I wasn’t able to go to Disney land a lot for money reason, but one of the few times I went as a kid the Nemo ride first opened and I was able to go on it. And as a kid I loved it. Looking back now as a 20 year old i haven’t gone to the parks in at least 12 years I want to go on that ride one more time sense for nostalgia sake one more time to relive my last memory at the parks. After that I don’t care but I want to at least one more time. Oh and don’t take the 12 years as a fact I honestly don’t remember exactly but it’s right around there but it feels like a life time ago regardless

Honesty this needs to be re-themed back to 20,000 Leagues. The whole appeal of that incarnation of the ride was the narrative and timeless feel that the Finding Nemo iteration doesn’t have. It also felt like there was a better use of theming that made the experience more unique and made it cool to ride in a submarine. I know you’re not technically underwater, but who wouldn’t want to say they rode in a submarine? Anyway I think that the ride should stay but bring back 20,000 Leagues to appease older fans and make for a fun experience for younger fans.

I’m glad they’re still around! I want my kids to experience them. But I would never Dislike an Offhand Disney video. :-)

A "temporary" closure that kept getting longer and longer until Disney finally admitted the ride was never coming back is exactly what happened to 20,000 Leagues in Florida so I wouldn't be so sure the Submarine Voyage will ever open again.

I think an attraction under the lagoon would be cool, though logistically improbable.

more walking and relaxing space, more things to look at, i love environmental storytelling to marvel at that doesn't require a line

I rode them back in 2013, I was really little back then so that automatically made me terrified of it. It’s not even a scary ride, just the atmosphere in the subs was freakin me out. Also I didn’t even realize you were verified until just now.

Hope it stays but would like to see it converted to an updated modernized version of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea using current day digital special effects and of course new subs.

The submarine voyage used to creep me out of me when I was little, I swear one of the barnacles under water had an eyeball. DB

growing up with sensory issues as a kid, i LOVED the submarines. i would usually hide my eyes and ears in the park bc i was very easily overwhelmed, and i didn’t like most dark rides. so the submarines were a place where i could relax without the noise of the park with relaxing visuals that made me feel calm and happy.

I love them. It could obviously use an upgrade or retheme but I find it far more interesting than a generic coaster or omnimover dark ride. New Fantasyland was a downgrade in my opinion. Obviously it was a success and laid the groundwork for the much nicer expansion in Tokyo Disneyland. But there's nothing else like the submarines left. Even the amazing 20,000 leagues at DisneySea isn't really comparable. And yes, it's horrifically inefficient in terms of capacity. But like you said it adds so much to the kinetic energy of the park and is just gorgeous to look at any time of day.

I'm so sad we never got Atlantis out of it, then we also missed out on Treasure Planet. Maybe some sort of scary undersea monster attraction would be cool

I didn’t know people hated the subs so much haha I’ve always like them, mostly for the history, but I can see why people don’t like them

Well, I rode 20,000 Leagues once, in 1974, as a 4-year-old [and the giant squid left an impression on my psyche that still remains], and even though the Finding Nemo business holds no appeal for me, I do still want to just ride the subs again as an adult. It's transferred, attenuated nostalgia, but then, much of all nostalgia is... I also want to get to DisneySea, but just getting to California is expensive enough, and of course, pandemic. Sigh.

I’m not a fan of the ride myself but I rather keep the subs!!! Losing the lagoon would hurt so much. THE LAGOON HAS GOT TO STAY IF THE SUBS LEFT OR NOT!!!

I like the subs. It’s a unique ride that is memorable as a kid and the lagoon and subs are beautiful, especially at night.

I miss the original sub ride. The giant squid, the funny sea dragon....nemo is great and Im sure my 3y/o would love it. but the old the ride was one of my favorite rides as a kid. I think if they did that theme but more modern would be a huge hut among old fans and new ones. But the ride should stay regardless imo. KEEP THE FLEET!

I like them but towards the end of the day when my legs are giving out from a day at Disney :)

The human child doggy paddling while being set down on the sub had me cackling for like 5 minutes straight

I don’t think they will ever go away because they meant so much to Walt. Imagine if they unfreeze his head and he wonders what happened to his Navy . He will flip. My uncle installed the subs and worked on them for over 40 years. The subs take you to an other place. It’s the one ride that really makes you feel like you are no longer in Anaheim. There’s nothing like them anywhere else. I’m ok with a retheme, but to take away the vessels is a no go

I loved them as a kid and I will still love them, just for that nostalgic feel. That is what Disney is about for me, those feelings I get being transported back 30 years to childhood.

The subs are super unique an I remember riding them when I was a little kid in the 70's, it was pure magic. Nothing else in the park has that kind of immersion honestly. With the exception of rise or the monorail, think about the money and investment in those ride vehicles its kind of amazing. I dislike the nemo theming, its not tomorrowland, it puts it in the past or maybe fantasyland. They should retheme them for undersea futurism like they had in epcot, maybe let you get out in an undersea station or something, now that would be a cool retheme and be futuristic. They need to let the parks theming drive the studios not vice versa like with adventureland. It should stir the imagination, not let you just experience a movie again. That gets boring fast, immortal attractions like potc or Haunted Mansion are draws in themselves and inspire movie franchises, that's what should happen with this attraction not try to fit a movie property to it.

The submarine voyage is a nice relaxing long attraction like pirates, haunted mansion, etc. if you ripped it out it would be replaced with a 15 second experience like tron with a 3 hour wait time. So no! don't take out the subs. update them like the finding Nemo update or something new. But don't remove the lagoon. Maybe bring back America sings and mission to mars!!! so there's more to do in Tomorrow Land.

My thoughts about the sub voyage is that yes it would just cost too much to get rid cus it would mean to shut down all of the north half of tomorrowland (I. E. Subs, autopia, monorail) but it would also create a number of bottlenecks coming and going into the land it would be a logistical and financial problem.

keep in mind,when the subs were first built, walt took pride in having his own 8 sub fleet........ and they were built with longevity in mind.....when they changed to finding nemo for the attraction,the subs went thru a full checkout....and it was found they would last another 50 years. walt had them made that bulletproof for a reason....he intended for them to last forever.

Admiral Nelson here: THE SUBS MUST REMAIN! That's an order!

As a bit Atlantis fan it saddens me every time I hear that the ride wasn’t refurbished in that way…Though there are signs Disney is showing more interest in Atlantis once again, so many the redevelopment into Atlantis could happen after all this time again? 😂