How is X-Wing in your local area? Is it alive and well?

I really enjoyed this video and very much miss the old X-wing. I have a huge collection of x-wing 1.0 but gave up when I heard you needed conversion kits or whatever for 2.0 as I wasn't willing to spend more money to get my already owned models "compatible" with a game that I'd already been playing for a long time. I feel like enough time has passed for me to come back but I am worried that the game has now dropped off and I've missed my chance. You're totally correct in saying that X-Wing 1.0 was the starting piece for many people. It was mine and other games since just haven't grabbed me as much as X-wing did when I first discovered it.

I know a TON of people, myself included, who found out about and jumped into X-Wing 1.0 about six months before The Force Awakens was set to come out and Star Wars hype was through the roof. I spent a stupid amount of money on ships and still have every one of them. We splurged on deluxe dials and even turned to Etsy to get custom range rulers. I even have an alt art Darth Vader pilot card that I was able to get signed by David Prowse at one of his last convention appearances in the US before his health declined. He asked me what the card was for and I was given my greatest Star Wars memory ever: explaining the X-Wing miniatures game to f**king Darth Vader himself! So many people I know stopped buying new minis when 2.0 came out. We weren't about to drop money on conversion kits for so much stuff that we had already spent a lot of money on. I don't think it is a coincidence most game stores around us stopped doing tournaments around this same time. We still break out our 1.0 stuff from time to time. I love the game still.

My father and I are new x-wing players. We love it, we own over 20 ships now! And our collection is still growing!

I'll never understand how they could f all that up like they did.

Hey I know that guy! The fact that the models were prepainted was what got me in the door. The fact that the shapes were relatively non organic in shape makes them less daunting to paint in my mind. Splitting the player turn into movement and combat phase also made each turn of the game feel intense down to the last. You spend the first half of the turn jockeying for position, and then you start rolling feels a lot more compelling to me than “I go first and nuke that unit off the board, now you get to move whatever you have left.”

Great video! Great points. Heroscape was my miniatures intro as a child, but X-wing was my gateway into miniatures gaming in college. Seemed to hit at just the right time, and I was able to jump into Armada (crunchier game) armed with confidence. That, of course, eventually led to sinking into full hobby gaming over the pandemic (40k, Middle Earth SBG, Team Yankee, etc.)

YES X-wing is the best miniatures game! I't is my favorite game.

Your doing great with your vids. Keep it up!

I agree with you. You missed some key points of 1.0 however. It had still had cards with point costs on them , was simpler then 2.0 s wing and beyond. I’d say some of the loss for x wing was 2.0. I know I stayed with 1.0 and their practices haven’t gotten any better and I feel like they strayed too close to catering towards hard core competitive concerns to push tournaments as opposed to the great feeling fun game that got everyone into it in the first place. X wing pretty much died off around me when that happened. Kind of leaving me like Vader a sad practitioner of a dead religion. Though for my money x wing was an incredible game that if they didn’t burn it down with change for changes sake would have most likely still stayed strong around me to this day.

This guy SO gets it. Damn, I had great fun with 1.0. 2.0 just doesn't cut it.

You are completely right. But now with AMG killing the game it is so upsetting to see our game being destroyed is so sad. I will not run the new 2.5 version at my store and my players will not buy into AMG destruction of what was a great game.

I remember seeing the x-wing miniatures and Barnes and noble, I was curious back then and I had no idea it would lead to a massive war gaming hobby

I've heard so many people say X-Wing was awesome, bit sad I missed the boat on it, I wasn't in the hobby back then. It seems like the quickest game from purchase to playing.

I'm a long-time WH40k collector. Just recently started playing X-wing 2.0 with my 3 children. We play the Heroes of the Altari Cluster campaign so we can all play together. Tried to get them to play WH40k years ago, when they were 7-8 years old. One was interested enough to buy a 500 pt army. He still has yet to finish painting any of them. I think I would have better luck with X-Wing at that age.

X-wing got me back into wargaming after stopping after highschool. My roommate who hated star wars even played with me. 1.0 was so fun

that carrying case is fricking wicked!

These are all very good points! The cool looking pre-painted minis are exactly what drew me into this and SW Armada. I just wish I could play this more often, it's just been so hard over the last couple years with the pandemic and when you have a baby at home to take care of. Although I didn't get to play 1.0 too much to tell if it needed fixing, I definitely appreciated the clear point values written on the cards making it easy to get into without needing to consult an app. Once 2.0 was announced, it was a bit annoying and there were still many 1.0 builds I wanted to try (and could probably still do so, who's really stopping us? :)), but was glad for the conversion kits to make things easy. I was just starting to get into 2.0, bought a ton of ships and card expansions, and now so many changes are being introduced with the AMG 2.5 ruleset, it's pretty frustrating so will likely try to stick with the 2.0 squad lists I'd already spent time generating and hopefully find a way to get X-Wing to the table someday soon. 2.5 feels more like some home-brew rules set that would maybe be fun to try but many aspects of it don't seem to make sense to me and seems unbalanced so I can't take it too seriously.

I don’t play competitively so was happy to stick with 1.0. Now it’s like 2.5, no thx! The unbelievable upgrade cost involved was another reason to say no thanks FFG. Couldn’t justify upgrade packs full of stuff for ships I was never going to buy. My only interest in this game was playing ships from episodes 4,5 and 6. Couldn’t care less about the rest of the franchise. For me those movies don’t exist. FFG got enough money out of me for this game thx! Happy with 1.0.

Myself, and my friends only play first edition

Loved the flying and simplicity. Later V1 and V2 became a living card game and I did not have the time nor energy to be busy with the meta and spend hours on lists just for a casual game. Sold it then.

1.0 was the best. The golden age was definitely 2013-2014 though, when hard counters were not the only thing you needed to take to tournaments. There was room outside of the meta to take something that would surprise the netdecking WAACs. It felt like skill could have an outcome on games, even when dice went cold.

Always was curious as a more casual gamer to get into miniature games and I love Star Wars but not interested in painting or complicated rules. Didn’t have anyone to play with casually, kid wasn’t old enough when I saw them around. Now that he’s almost 9 I thought I’d try only to walk into a confusing mess of 1.0, 2.0, 2.5 and not stocked in stores. I just want to play at home!

1.0 reminiscent. Tie Phantom pilots are used to see things vanishing, disappearing, phasing out. Nofing new. 1.0 the best.

If you liked XWing, you should play the game that introduced this idea. Wings of War, now Wings of Glory. WWI and WWII dog fighting. I really loved the veteran pilots move second and shoot first idea.

Can you do a tutorial abaut your carry case? Its a neat design that i would love to use!

I agree it was , then it died .

me and my fridn just got into armada and xwings because they were prepainyed and were looking into getting into different table tops due to this

Agree ,,still play 1e

You forgot one thing, the price. It's a lot harder to get into X-wing nowadays because the cost of the models has almost more than doubled since the game first released. I got into X-wing when it first came out in 2012. At first I was skeptical of the gameplay because the previous Star Wars mini game produced by Wotc was hot garbage. The rules in the Wotc game were braindead simple designed for 8 year olds. But it turned out the rules for X-wing were initially very well thought out and had the tactical complexity that my gamer mind was starving for. The models in the Wotc game were repurposed micromachines molds that were well past their prime with the X-wings that had lasers pointing in more directions than the bristles on my drybrush and Tie fighters that had solar panels as straight as a potato chip. Also the models in the Wotc game were not properly scaled to each other so you had star destroyers only slightly larger than the snub fighters. Not only are the sculpts in X-wing top notch, all the basic ships in X-wing are properly scaled to each other at 1/285th scale. So If the game dies, I can still use them in dioramas.

Points on cards....up grades we loved....

Yes 2.0 was "better", but my fondest memories are all from the 1.0 era. Just saying Miranda with TLT puts a smile on my face.

2.0 only built upon the positives from 1.0. More lists and factions are viable than ever before. There are 7 factions now which may seem overwhelming, but you can truly just pick your favorite faction from the movies or books and you will find a list that is competitive.

UK was getting 600 players for tournaments

Played xwing, was the local TO. Have also played 40k, armada, legion, dabbled in bolt action and guildball amongst others. 1.0 was by a country mile the better rules set for us old timers. We also didn’t appreciate the whole “we changed editions, you now have to buy the updated stuff to participate in events” deal. It stunk of FF trying to be GW. 2.0 has effectively killed what used to be a community of 50+ players in my area. Now no store in my county that I’m aware of can move any of the product. On another note we will have to agree to disagree. Infinity is the best game ever. Hassassin Bahram for life! پیروزی به نام خدا

What’s IP? Good video sir!!!!

Lets not mention how absolutely broken the meta and game balance was with 1.0 and also having to buy a £100 epic ship just to get 1 upgrade card to fix a broken at release small ship... but yeah sure 1.0 was the best and great for new players 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Rebell stated...tie fighter..x wing t65 box...2 tie fighters ln.....rebels and z 95

2.5 rules killed the game for beginners, requiring fully upgraded ships. It's hard to muster so many upgrades.

Please tell us all about wing 2.0 next

I still play it, it's good

2.0 ruined it. Still playing 1.0

X Wing 2.5 is much better. Objectives have made the competitive scene much healthier

Yeah 2.0 is garbage