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Yes in terms of cringe he wins but in terms of everything else no.

Deku ain’t beatin yuko Ozawa 🗣🔥

@@jackking6191 Deku is extraversal

@@supreme_doge_yt7509 who? Deku victim 🤣🤣

fate verse is outerversal or high outerversal at max

​@@Abrold Is Apeiron

@@Abrold when you play the games you will see even more bullshit like one of the most less relevant servants are doing outerversal feats.

​​@@Abroldand dragon ball is 6D at best

@@Abroldhuh

multipliers are a bit unquantifiable in terms of dimensionality, all we know is that it obviously makes him hundreds to thousands of times stronger depending on the transformation.

​​@@ToasterXD yo why didnt you mentinon the charisma world,sdbh irl japan in the qnd super dimensions also xeno goku haxs are sinilar if not better than the nasu chracters. even though xeno goku could still lose it will have been a close fight

​@@ToasterXDDr slump would make kid goku high outer

@@vergil_is_him Fax the cosmology is way to consistent on where it scale

@@ToasterXD But isn't he getting stronger, so all other measurements rise?

Xeno Goku caps at 4D, making him low Multiversal to Multiversal. Even if he was 10D-11D, that would only put him at High Complex Multiversal while gil, Artoria, and Shiki scale low outer to high outer at inf dimension.

And due to the trio being higher dimensionsiality, his haxs won't work on them

Xeno goku (arcade) has irrelevant speed and irrelevant layers into boundless strength in base. I’m not even biased but xeno goku has the keysword which negates all abilities. But if it’s anime it’s a different story since anime xeno goku caps at hyperversal

@@SOL_Phase much like your name says keep capping

@@hardcoore_gyt9254 you missed out on the debunk, so I can't blame you for not understanding

Fake scan

@@eibarmanpessi1142 How are they fake when I wasn't talking about the ones in the video????

@@kadexshidomuda8113 xeno fodder is 4d

Slide cord I’ll debunk that shit

@@kadexshidomuda8113 bro. you legit have a goku pfp

True... Since Zeno Goku is always in his Base Form. Imagine SSB TUI GI Zeno Goku. Blue hair + Ultra Instinct + God Ki

Not to mention the cosmology in dragon ball as a whole is just bigger than the nasuverse, and Goku was going to destroy all of it just by powering up into a super saiyan, so theoretically him turning ssj4 would mean everything from the DB, beats world and beyond would be shred to non existence. Xeno Goku is just too much.

@mickymeza6571 nah he turning into a ssj4 that's what was gonna destroy existence but it was just him powering up to the form

​@@mickymeza6571proof ?

fate fans still call artoria altria? or is either one right?

​@@purplehaze4942not sane ones

​@@purplehaze4942I do it for the memes at this point. I have one friend who gets rly triggered when I say altria and will never pass on the chance to correct me

It's less their being buffed and more closer to their original power, the servant forms you see across the different grail wars do not compare to their true selves when they were alive (some servants are marginally stronger in their servant form due to being weak in life but gaining power from their fame like Shakespeare or Phantom of the Opera) The only time servants are primarily buffed to a higher level within the moon cell are the mythological mystic codes and even that is more accessing the root and origin of that servant.Also servant battles tend to get more hectic within the moon cell due to it not taking place on earth and thus servants aren't constantly being "attacked" by Gaia or restrained in their destructive capabilities

Not at all, the only ones that get buffed in Extra are Emiya and Nero. Saber only got unsealed excalibur from the counterforce, and gilgamesh got restored his original power. And the buffed tamamo would tecnically be weaker than a original power restored version, wich is a bit funny.

True... Xeno Goku is just Base Form Goku. Imagine him with his Manga Counterpart abilities. It could rival Zeno & Shenron, who both are two halves of Omnipotence.

not true

VOID Shiki is Tier 0

8 to 9D is pretty accurate He's clearly above 4D

This guy straight up bais towards nasuverse and absolutely lowballing xeno goku For e.g he didn't even talk about charisma world which even views beats world as a fiction giving him 11+ D

@@Dmklegeek Dragon Ball Heroes does not have a type 4 multiverse it only has a type 3 multiverse which scales too High Hyper so regardless of that scale it would not surpass the Nasuverse since Toaster already scaled the Nasuverse via the Root to Outerversal which is defintely low balling the Nasuverse due to it scaling Higher than Outerversal he did not mention the Outer Gods who literally scales to Outerversal and the Root exists beyond the Outer Gods and their realm that scales to Outer the Nasuverse can be scaled to High Outerversal to Boundless via Visual Novel statements he downplayed both Heroes and Nasuverse but it wouldnt matter since most Nasu characters already outscales Xeno Goku.

@Dmklegeek In order for the multiverse to be a type IV multiverse all of the universes should be equally real which needs to be described by different mathematical structures. First of all you never proved that the multiverse has a type IV tegmark so logically speaking if you cannot prove how the multiverse scales to a type IV tegmark then the multiverse is not a type IV or even a type III tegmark since you need to prove that the multiverse consists of parallel universes using quantum mechanics which the multiverse does not have. So the multiverse is neither a type IV or a type III multiverse since u never proved it to be either and therefore beats world cannot be scaled too Low Outer, Outer or High Outer resulting in DBH's defeat and therefore the nasu verse negs since I can scale the multiverse to a type III tegmark since it consists of real life quantum mechanics.

@Dmklegeek Charisma World does not scale to Boundless since you have to prove the Charisma world R>F hierarchy transcendence, which cannot be the case since that world is not an infinte hierarchy. Reaching Boundless isn't as simple as that bruv its more complicated than that else alot of verses in fiction would be scaled too Boundless. So the DBH cosmology does not scale to Outer since you have 0 prove of it scaling that high.

@Dmklegeek Then give me proof of the multiverse having a type III or IV tegmark which I can easily debunk since I myself know the DBH multiverse does not have real life quantum mechanics for it to be calculated to a type III tegmark.

It's not that high... In fact... It's rather low. I require an 8th Dimensional Existence Feat below Omnipotence (9th Dimension of Existence) of any Character to win against Xeno Goku. Void Shiki is omnipotent so that match up is not fair to begin with... Xeno and Shenron is the better duo in a 2v1 against Void Shiki. Xeno Goku has potential to transend into the 9th Dimension proper, since he's only always in Base Form. However, based on the current content. That may never be seen.

@@absolstoryoffiction6615 i am not talking about the fight i am talking about the fact that everyone says fate characters are busted asf when emiya and sorcerers can fight them when they dont use their special moves at least for a while (a swat team solos any sorcerer btw) also omnipotence scales nowhere

@@argy7526 Fate Lore wise... True. Also... Omnipotence does scale. It's 9th Dimensional Existence. You know... The same stuff Marvel and DC always does when it comes to Meta Narrative Characters. At that level of existence, the rules are different when measuring power. And this is also why there are different Type Omnipotence and Omni Factors. (I study in Omnipotence and I must say, there is scalability in that but you cannot use the Infinite Dimensions as seen in this video. You must use the Dimensions of Existence in order to fully test omnipotence. Fundamentally, it is different.) Saying omnipotence doesn't scale is like saying religious Gods/Magic cannot scale "because it's Gods/Magic". It is simply, a poor choice of a statement to make.

@@absolstoryoffiction6615 omnipotence scales you at the top of a verse but crossverse this statement doesnt mean anything and were did you get this 9th dimensional from?

@@argy7526 Omnipotence is not as absolute as you understand it to be, but most of your human authors only write under "the One True God" ideology. Marvel... DC... Those Type OFs are very common to see. And the 9th Dimension of Existence is what I speak of. You only know the Infinite Dimensions and that is capped when tested in its full brink compared to the Core 10 Dimensional Existence from 0 to 9. ... I am the Precursor of Omnipotence. It is my design, after all. Of everything I created, omnipotence is the one to which I know the most. And the one to which I let go as it is but a crutch for me... (In other words. This is the same test I use for all religions and reality. It's omniversal, fundamentally.) Humanity's understanding of omnipotence is rather lacking. Thus, I'm not impressed to that level of Data. Even when Mankind is physically older than my mortal shell. "Existence is more stranger than fiction."... As the Precursors say. (Not a quote. Just memories of my home. Mankind has a long way to go.)

@@kenshinsenpai No I don't think he is a hater or anything but he definitely did skip or ignore a lot of statements that he himself mentioned in previous videos and the scan of universe tree he showed he actually never showed it in his previous scaling videos maybe he just used it in scaling but all the outer arguments for xeno goku he gave himself in previous videos he skimmed over them without explaining why he doesn't agree with them anymore and he definetly did downplay the haxes xeno goku has and in the end toaster came in line with the vsbw scaling of xeno goku that he himself made fun of previously but he skipped all the haxes mentioned in vsbw which is a bit disappointing to say the least

@@kenshinsenpai I think his inconsistency is in line with the more believable stuff as for what I mean is that if you take into account the canon stories the characters right now are nowhere near outerversal but the dbh characters are definitely outer but the thing is its really hard for a lot of people to believe that because there are not a lot of statements that say this and officially it's not explained well but fate has too much content and it's all canon and explained pretty well so it's much more believable so when in older videos when toaster said xeno goku in base would be outerversal which is facts it caused a lot of uproar and he got a lot of hate so he was looking at the chance to rectify his scaling to the mainstream beliefs that xeno goku would scale 2a vsbw scaling which he did what make me disappointed is that he didn't explain or use the scans that he used in the older scaling videos and explain why he doesn't believe them anymore and explain why destroying concepts of space and time wouldn't make demigra outerversal when the concepts reside in the universe and a lot of more points but calling him a hater would be unfair and the simple conclusion that I have is well he grew his channel with making factual scaling of dbh characters and attracted fans who never get to see these scaling as they are believed to be outlandish by the mainstream as they say there is simply not too much evidence and when he grew his channel enough and people noticed him enough and started talking he fell in line with the more majority belived scaling of dbh characters so people wouldn't call him a overwanker or fan boy whether it's factual or not as it pleases the majority of the scaling community but I don't think he is a hater just a dude who knows how to get views and attention depending on the situation which is disappointing to see but hey what can we do?😂 except be disappointed

those scales are not good, don’t listen to my old videos. If you think I’m downplaying db for the sake of it, idk what to tell you buddy haha.

@@ToasterXD I never said it blatantly that you are downplaying db but if you say it yourself that those scales are not good then you kind of need to debunk your own video as to why those are not good and it kind of makes it hard it to believe when you yourself say that the previous videos you made weren't true or not accurate and this one is😅🤣 but a question on serious note is that you said and showed panels of the sdbh manga in your scaling for different Versions of goku video in which it said that the concepts of space and time reside in the universe itself so wouldn't destroying concepts make them outer if it says that?

Why would I need to debunk my old videos? If you’re going to deliberately take my word at face value from a year ago, why would you not now? That scan that I showed that stated the “concept of time existed” LITERALLY didn’t have a translation. You don’t even know what the scan said and it has nothing to do with it which I’ve found out since then. You saying Me a year ago>Me now in terms of scaling is very ridiculous and just proves you want Goku to scale to whatever you want him to scale to, rather than just being logical.

Facts at least at bear minimum he should be high hyperversal.he does not want to believe super Goku is 5d and above.he did not touch up on dragon ball cosmology properly.timelines are not 4d.that would mean every timeline in DC is 4d ,which is a crazy downplay,that's why understanding cosmology is very important.i wonder why people keep forgetting that the living world in universe 7 has super dimensions 😪

@@uzookafor8721 facts

It’s pretty obvious he doesn’t know what he’s talking about because of all the bs he said.

@@uzookafor8721 bare minimum is boundless lmao

@@CosmologyDunks how

Seems like a foreigner to me. Edit:nvm, bro does NOT qualify. What he does qualify for are Berserk Lancer Rider(pre saiyan saga) Cancer canidate(taking goku's interpretation of earth's safety, and assuming the cancer class isn't only for the moon.) Goku black would qualify for: Saber Lancer Beast

berserk

Saber lol

@@alispeed5095 Nah, saber you need an actual sword for. He'd likely be summoned as a lancer 99% of the time, with a 1% super-rare berserker variant.

@@NO-zb3fz In my opinion I'd say he's a savior or something close to a divine spirit since at the end of GT he did get immortalized by the people of earth. (But thats just me I've haven't really touch any new fate canon since two years ago so the rules could have changed)

Here is some more Xeno goku hax Space-Time Transcendence, Immunity to Reality-Wrapping, Probability Manipulation, Damage Reduction. Power Nullification, Space & Time Manipulation (Can created pocket dimension and manipulate Time within it)Life-force absorption. Conceptual Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, Pocket dimension creation and manipulation, Resistance to speed alteration. Analytical Prediction & Information Analysis, Weapon Mastery (Of the Power Pole & Keysword), Limited Size Manipulation (The Power Pole can change size), Attack Reflection (Power Pole can reflect attacks). Acausality (Type 1; Time Patrollers [Xeno] are unaffected by changes in history and the erasure/destruction of their timeline/flow of time). Non-Physical Interaction (Ki can interact with ghosts, spirits, souls, illusions, pure energy beings, invisible & intangible ki blasts, abstract beings made of abstract wills, thoughts and emotions). Accelerated Development (Battle, Training; Physical Stats, Abilities. As a Saiyan, Goku grows stronger every time he fights and can become stronger in the midst of combat, vastly increasing in strength whenever he is mortally injured). Shockwaves Generation (Can create powerful shockwaves via Kiai), Afterimage Creation, Power Mimicry (Can easily replicate other Ki-based techniques after seeing them once). Energy / Life-Force / Ki Absorption (Can absorb energy/ki/life-force from his opponents). Stealth Mastery & Limited Perception Manipulation (With his sharpened spirit, Goku mastered the ability of "[crouching] as quiet as the sky and [striking] quick than lightning", dampening his presence completely -including scant air movements and his footsteps-and erasing his own Ki; thus, allowing him to optimize his movements and elude the senses of opponents completely). Telepathy (Can telepathically communicate with others and read minds), Telekinesis, Teleportation (Aside from Instant Transmission, he is capable of instant dimensional teleportation, allowing him to travel between Timelines & dimensions quickly), BFR, Dimensional Travel & Time Travel. Statistics Manipulation (Goku can greatly enhance his capabilities with Kaio-ken up to 100 times. Can passively use many of his abilities to greatly increase his statistics. Can reduce an enemy's statistics with many of his abilities. Can steal his opponents statistics to increase his own). Minor Power Modification (Can reduce the effect of his opponents statistics amplification skills. Can reduce the enemy's damage reduction effect by 50%), Rage Power, Transformation (Can transform into a Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan 2, Super Saiyan 3, Super Saiyan 4, increasing his capabilities drastically). Immortality Negation & Regeneration Negation [Type 3. At least Mid-High, possibly up to Mid-Godly] (Scale to CC Goku and CC Future Trunks, via Spirit Bomb technique), Durability Negation (His attacks ignore durability and defensive skills). Damage Manipulation (Passively boosts his damage and reduces his opponents), Healing (Can recover his stamina and energy. Can passively and actively heal others, carries Senzu Beans with him, can heal himself and his allies). Resurrection (Can resurrect himself or his allies, but needs two allies on the field to active). Summoning (Can summon Shenron; can summon Chronoa, Xeno Trunks, Xeno Gohan, Xeno Vegeta, Great Ape Vegeta, Frieza's Spaceship, Great Ape Broly or SS3 Broly to help him in battle). Limited Space-Time Manipulation & Limited Portal Creation (Should be comparable to CC Goku who can destroy Hit's pocket dimension. At this level of power he can create dimensional rifts and destroy space-time and pocket dimensions with his energy). Adaptation (can adapt to gravity), Reactive Evolution (Saiyans can evolve to counters against special abilities/techniques that can cause harm to them), Fusionism (via Fusion Dance or Potara Earrings). Power Nullification & Purification [Types 1 & 2] (Can nullify Dark Ki. Can negate his opponent's ability to boost their damage. Can reset his opponents statistics boost, negating his opponents ability to amplify his or her statistics), Stamina Reduction (Can reduce his opponent stamina via normal attacks or skills) & Status Effect Inducement (Can disable all of his opponents abilities, powers and actions by reducing their stamina to zero; making them unable to act). Resistance to Demon God Power (Capable of fighting against the Dark Dragon Ball Warriors and the Demon Gods, with them always utilizing Dark Ki and Demon God Power infused attacks). Disease Manipulation, Poison Manipulation, Extreme Cold, Cosmic Radiations, Absorption, Sleep Manipulation. Acids, Heat Manipulation, Harsh Temperatures, Status Effect Inducement, Spatial Manipulation, Ice Manipulation. Corrosion Inducement,Fire Manipulation, Electricity Manipulation, Matter Manipulation (Atomic; Withstood Baby Vegeta's Revenge Death Ball which can scatter individual atoms). Resistance to Power of Destruction, Empathic Manipulation. And he has all those from his Base form and his Transformations (from SSJ1 - Full Powered SSJ4 Limit Breaker) further enhance those abilities.

@@GODEATER2so my friend do power levels matter anymore in any Dragon Ball Series because I remember reading that anyone with PL of 10k can destroy a planet

@@GODEATER2and if anyone with the Power Level of 10k can destroy a planet then what do you think a Power Level of 100B can do

Also don’t forget the higher the Power Level of a fighter is they and their Power will Transcend any obstacle including time Stop and reality warping and ETC u get my point 🙏

Do u think Xeno Goku Powers will Surpass the Concept of everything like literally everything beyond Death and Creation someday 😅

Appreciate it!

None of this matters coz Void is involved. The root is the source code of all nasu verse. The moment Goku has to fight void. He becomes subject to nasu verse logic meaning void can simply edit or even outright remove his line of code from within the root and thats that. Scaling is irrelevant to a being that can control source code. If you dont want Goku to be subject to nasu verse laws then why involve a character that is the very definition of nasu verse logic? You could scale xeno goku to beat Gil and Saber easily. But not void. Its impossible. Either you allow goku to be subject to the root or you just null the entire fight since its too unfair. Its like being a programmer, how can an ingame character threaten you? You just edit there source code or outright erase it and thats that. This is void shiki. All your scaling is pointless. What was this guy even thinking involving her in this fight? Even the author of that verse avoids her like a plague since she makes any stakes moot.

@alispeed5095 Goku had downright defeated characters who were stated to have Immeasurable Power and Insane feats it doesn't matter whether Void has this source code or whatever. This source code/root only applies to Void's own verse and assuming the fight would take place on ground where neither character has an advantage Xeno Goku would easily win as he wouldn't be affected by the root as it only applies to the NASUVERSE.

It's like saying Murphy Lawden is the strongest in fiction because of his inverse hax and only works in his verse, which means even other SCPs can slam. Murphy lawden ain't even top 10 SCP because is hax is only inverse like Void Shiki's hax

@kenshinsenpai You noticed it too

@@kenshinsenpai 😊

it really isn’t but Ight

So its like a half ball or 3/4 scale

@@ToasterXD It is because you didn't count the charisma world and the beats world, which both transcend dimensions. Demigra could destroy the beats world, that would make him at the bare minimum outerversal.

@@BIGHOODPETA Not really, one time line is 7D based of movies, the mortal realm itself contain a hyperspace dimension and a super dimension, which makes the mortal realm itself 5D, the after life 6D, and the entire timeline will be low balled. The Beats world and charisma world, fictional Japan, these are all higher dimensional plain of existences. So scaling the timeline 4D is a low ball.

​@@laryathFrr Even dbsh Omni king Zeno scales outerversal as dbs goku is comp multi , GOD are hyper and angels being outerversal and zeno being above them Hearts was proved to be killing zeno as said in the toei summary of the episode and was still a victim of fu as fu said that hearts is nothing to him. Fu was later defeated by cc Goku with universal tree and xeno goku ssj4 limit breaker being scaled to him giving him boundless amounts of power And also forgot to mention that Charisma world is 11D

keep crying

@@aroundtheworld3972 Ain’t no tears coming out my eyes, *goku solos*

​@@Handlesaretrash goku is planetary

@@eibarmanpessi1142 Purposefully spreading misinformation on the internet I see. You indeed do a little trolling

​@@Handlesaretrash cry

In the omniverse, the Dimensions of Existence for Time is 4th, 5th, and 6th. However, all of the 10 Core Dimensions weave into each other, making the Omniverse proper. Xeno Goku would 8th Dimensional. Step below Type Omnipotent Catagories, since those are 9th Dimensional. There is no 10th Dimension. The Zero Dimension is were we count from. And each dimension outside of the 2nd and the 3rd, is unique.

@@absolstoryoffiction6615 so are you trying to say super dimension is just 5D

@@choidaniel7026 (I'm not saying Xeno Goku is 5th D E... He's actually 8th DE at the high end level if he wanted to unleash SS1. Zeno and Shenron are 9 DE given their duality of being omni potent... But Super Dimensions/Extra Dimensions etc. are just 1 up to 6 DE, depending on the context. And it's Pseudo 6 DE for the high end Extra Dimensions.) In the Omniverse, proper, it will depend. Zero Dimension is Origin... The same Dimension that the Akashic Records and Omnipotence comes from. But the Omnipotent souls now reside in the 9th Dimension. 1st to 3rd Dimension is pretty self explanatory to our real world. However, there is nuance in how all three dimensions function beyond simple explanations. 4th Dimension is the Prime Timeline while 5th Dimension are all Alternative and Parallel Time Lines. Unlike the 4th, you can erase branches of time in the 5th. If you tamper with the 4th, then you may end up dooming the true path. Thus, you may bring forth Chaos Theory upon the Butterfly Effect. It wouldn't be the first time, however, for the omniverse. 6th is best explained as if it was the seeds from Origin. With each Seed sprouting its own true Multiverse and Cosmology etc. I say "true" because you can still have multiverses within one Core Dimension. However, those are Pseudo Multiverses and much easier to dismantle compared to one Seed of Origin. 7th is Conceptual Existence. Where the Astral Plane resides and many powerful souls are often at this level. 8th is the Spirit Realm where Souls reside. The highest level of existence under Omnipotence if thyn soul is strong enough to equal it. 9th is where Omnipotence Souls reside but its original purposes was to be "Beyond the Boundary". Or in other words. Before 9th was split in two by omnipotence. It was truly boundless in every way, second to Origin. As it is the final Will of Origin, the Will to exist beyond the End... ... ... Even when it is easy said than done, iteration after iteration. To answer... Yes... Super Dimensions are just 5th Dimensional in this context. It's not the same as 6th Dimensional Existence. (... The Infinite Dimensions are not the same as the Core 10 Dimensions. Fundamentally speaking...)

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sorry I didn’t wank Goku like other KZfaqrs! :D

Oh nah blud said even dbs goku can be outer, not this bullshit again.

@@ToasterXDby wanking you’re literally omitting feats and statements and scans within the verse. You’re essentially committing an error from omission. It’s a logical fallacy.

w

Just untrue

@@josephrogers3666not unture

Some dude on reddit hard debunked the daizenshuu 4 afterlife statement to 5D max

@@oddestgames1168 dude that has been rebunked …..

nuts

@@ToasterXD i can finally use a video thats not freaking from the one who will not be mentioned

@@Thailandsmostwantedwho Seth, stop being dramatic you can say the guy’s name

@@theghost358fr it’s not that hard lol

Wally west get oneshot

​@@AXIOMISFODDERANDWEAKASF wally slams kid Xeno goku is high hyperversal to possibly outerversal at best Even the lowest of dimension in dc at a lowball can reach outerversal lvls

@@lucionjones8685 🤡

😂💯

That would make him able to beat unleashed saber, but he would still get assblasted by gil and shiki if he was 7D.

None of the dragon ball movies are canon except for Battle of the Gods Resurrection of F Dragon Ball Super:Broly Dragon Ball Super: Superhero

@@Recon-601 I'm talking about xeno Goku scaling, and super dimension was introduced in dbs broly and hyper space dimension is mentioned in og db.

@@bruhdrugon6094 7D only one time line, calculate other higher dimensions and sets of timelines i mentioned

​@@Recon-601There is literally no canon in Dragon Ball verse since all the movies and games take place in alternate timelines, how can we say the main timeline of db known as Dragon Ball super is canon and the rest aren't just because they haven't crossed over into super timeline.

Stand proud Xeno Goku, You’re strong.

@@ToasterXD type shii🗣

that video is not good at powerscale xD

@@tobi6168 it was a massive lowball for xeno goku and small lowball for nasuverse this vid was horrible

@@GODEATER2 yea i know. sad

Nasuverse scaling This is my ultimate scaling for the Nasuverse cosmology. The previous ones I did are rather outdated now as I have gained newer knowledge on the verse and how much bigger it is than I previously thought. I guess we do learn new things every day. Also, most of the credit goes to Theoretical Toxic from CSAP, who enlightened me more on the cosmology of Nasuverse. Quite surprised how I can actually appreciate something that came from the CSAP wiki when the tiering system is even worse than VSBW. But at least they are better than VSBW when it comes to scaling characters correctly First and foremost, every planet in the Nasuverse has and follows its own concepts and common sense. Rules that apply to a specific planet don't apply to others. Not every “earth” is the same in the Nasuverse, which I will explain below Earth and Textures In Nasuverse, Earth has separate realities, with some being parallel worlds and others being higher dimensions. These are referred to as “textures of reality.” Textures play a fundamental role within the Nasuverse in separating myths from other myths. The existence of textures allows for all myths within the Nasuverse to exist without being contradictory to each other, as seen. Every myth took place within its texture of reality, such as the Scandinavian myths and events like Ragnarok. That’s why in Fate, we have multiple Sun Gods/goddesses like Karna, Quetzalcoatl, etc., all existing on the same “earth” without contradictions despite being from different mythology and lore. Quetzalcoatl(a Mesoamerican Sun Goddess) claims she already knew Karna(a Hindu Sun God) despite being from a very different myth and blatantly supposed to be contradictory. Inshort, Earth in itself isn’t just a planet. But a threshold for multiple realities hence the existence of different “textures” for various myths. Parallel Worlds: In Nasuverse, parallel Worlds are notions of human history that exist within the first texture of the world, the “Texture of Humanity,” which was insinuated to be a universe as seen when Arcueid used event storage to store the surface texture of the planet Tohno Shiki went inside that and ended up witnessing an infinite multiverses and also its concepts This first texture containing a Universe also branches out into endless possibilities which exists as parallel worlds These possibilities branch off one another. These infinite possibilities form the concept of human history. Higher Dimensions Rin explains how Higher Dimensions in the Nasuverse function, higher dimensions view every facet of lower dimensions as that of a scroll/book. Which means higher-dimensional beings are entirely superior to lower-dimensional beings. Just basic higher-dimensional existence. B.B, who obtained a higher dimensional perspective, could view all of the linear time and all of the multiverses within the moon cell as a book and can see the entire past, present and future of lower dimensions consequently

Within the world of Tsukihime, it is explained that a certain character by the name of Kiara Sessyoin gained higher dimensional senses, which was enough to make her omnipotent in lower dimensions but because her body was still lower dimensional, she was still at the mercy of the higher dimensional beings Thus, she returned to her lower-dimensional self and lost her higher-dimensional senses Cosmological Scale Mooncell The moon cell is a supercomputer created by aliens/non-human intelligent life. It consists of 7 layers, and getting past them gets you to the moon cells' “core.” The moon cell was made to observe and record everything on Earth and about Earth since its very existence S. E. R. A. P. H, on the other hand, is an artificial world created within the Mooncell It records Earth which has infinite possibilities as well. It holds endless possibilities and if-futures and infinite possible futures. Now moving back to the Mooncell. The Mooncell is an 8-dimensional barrier It blocks the way to the Mooncells core, making it Complex Multiversal(1-C) The Mooncell’s “core” is implicitly said to be an even higher dimension making it likely 9th dimensional, but nevertheless, the moon cell in this state qualifies for 1-C. The moon has something called the “far side of the moon cell.” Basically, the imaginary number of space contains all possibilities as all possibilities can be hypothesized because since it’s unobservable, it can’t be detected by the current existing laws of physics, the reality of real numbers, and imaginary numbers which are mutually exclusive untouchable and cannot observe each other. The imaginary numbers of space is a higher dimensional space made up of complex/imaginary numbers and is the source of poor information and is sometimes referred to as "the garden fall from the sky" within the far side, and reality itself is made up of real numbers; This makes the Imaginary number of space High Hyperversal(1-B). Earth and deeper textures Higher dimensions of the Nasuverse become pretty hard to gauge as a result of them not being definitively numbered on various occasions, but it shouldn't restrict you from using syllogism to present some order in scale for them starting with; The reverse side of the world This realm is where the gods and Phantasmal beings retreated after the end of the Age of Gods. It’s a realm incompatible with the laws and rules of humanity This realm is obviously higher-dimensional as it contains true forms of gods who are said to exist in higher dimensions. The scale of this realm theoretically equals or even surpasses that of the moon cell making it at least High 1-C (10 dimensional at the lowest) and likely High Hyperversal considering the “Imaginary number space” earlier. Now you might ask me to prove it’s as high/higher than the moon cell and INS. That’s easy. Things such as gods or divine spirits exist on the reverse side of the world, and they are too powerful for servant containers and can only be summoned if they are weakened, which even then still places them as one of the top strongest among servants. Meaning a god's existence as a higher dimensional being is qualitatively superior to a servant container to handle. Which makes the God superior to even servants like Altera, who can destroy the moon cell This makes the vast majority of the gods High Hyperversal Avalon Avalon exists within the planet earth as well(which supports my explanations on textures being inside of “earth” despite it being supposed to be contradicting in nature. Normally, Avalon isn't supposed to fit inside normal earth. But Nasuverse’s earth isn’t “normal.”

Avalon is higher dimensional as well. Its Noble Phantasm form was described as having the capability of blocking virtually anything up to the 6th dimension Lostbelts Lostbelts are parallel universes that were pruned by the quantum time lock. I will explain the Quantum time lock later. If you wanna know about it, they are created by, and their existence is maintained by, the “Tree of Emptiness,” which birthed them by allowing pruned histories to have their own fate where they actually survived through means of creating that history They should be Universal+. Servant Universe It's where hypothetical scenarios (likely in reference to possibilities similar to earth's parallel world system) are put out. Furthermore, the Servant universe has its own set of parallel worlds as people who reincarnate go to its parallel world. This should at least make it Low Multiversal, possibly Multiversal or Multiversal+ if the parallel worlds are taken to be as big as proper human history parallel worlds. But for now, it's at least Low Multiversal Spaceships of the Servantverse can manipulate 4-D So for now still 2-C, possibly Low 1-C, To further attest to higher dimensions in the servant-universe, Ashtart Origin can manifest her higher-dimensional soul.. within the servant-universe without any problems who happen to be comparable to true form gods who are 10 Dimensional at the lowest ball in their true forms and an existential threat to all servants kind including top tier servants who scale to the 9th-dimensional moon cell, so by chain scaling it should be high 1-C /10 Dimensional and possibly High 1-B Earth and Quantum Mechanics Earth in Nasuverse is explained to have been running under the basis of the Type 3 multiverse or Quantum multiverse Admittedly this doesn't suddenly make it infinite-dimensional as the Quantum Multiverse has many interpretations, with some of the interpretations just being 4th dimensional and others being infinite-dimensional. But Earth isn't just 4th dimensional. I've already presented several dimensions earlier, so it can't be the 4th-dimensional interpretation. The only logical explanation is that it should likely be infinite-dimensional, meaning it’s High Hyperversal Origin, Platonism and Concepts(Get ready for the philosophical lecture about Nasuverse’s entirety) Origins are concepts that come directly from the Root. It serves as a primordial foundation for everything and everyone. It's like a perfect form of something independent and of that something it foundates. It’s also how a thing should act or behave. That's why those who awaken their origins find it hard to stray away from their origin. It's an idea similar to Plato's theory of forms. Not really sure(I don’t like Philosophy). Now one would be tempted to argue origin is just something exclusive to humanity, but this isn't the case as even non-sentient things such as plants even have their own origin likely, everything conceptual and physical is subjected to this notion of origin. Furthermore, in Nasuverse, the origin of something is the defining truth of something its implied to trace on to infinity, implying there are infinite layers of existence, each origin getting deeper and reaching deeper and deeper At the end of it, all is the primordial state of something that exists as a perfect form of that thing it foundates all physical and conceptual aspects of something and exists as something that drives everything in reality, and it's the direction and placing it into things part of the pattern of reality that matches its physical or conceptual existence. Showcased in multiple instances (older and more fundamental mystery is more powerful and resists lower mystery, higher dimensions are qualitatively superior to lower ones, greater authority resists lower authority, even planets having layers/textures of reality, some layers even being higher dimensions, higher levels of the concept of death existing as well). You can also say there are infinite deeper ideas all the way up to their primordial and deepest state. This also heavily supports the existence of infinite dimensions going deeper and deeper, transcending each other as everything within reality due to the existence of origin that is layered like a stream tracing on to infinity up to its primordial state. So there are those infinite levels of concepts, and the end point of those concepts is their true primordial origin existing as an independent concept perfect form of itself that foundates the existence of the lesser concept. With concepts at their primordial stage being absolute, unchangeable;and also being platonic in nature Due to the sheer consistency, I believe this is definitely High-Hyperversal and Outerversal for every concept in its primordial stage. The Universe There's not much to say here. There's "The Universe," which encompasses everything here; parallel worlds, higher dimensions, earth, other celestial bodies and galaxies or whatnot. But the Universe in itself, with all the information above, should be definitively High 1-B. Very few people within the Nasuverse scale to the "Universe" but Fate Grand Order high tiers such as Zeus have been somewhat shown or stated to be capable of doing such. Nasuverse Cosmological Scale #2- The “ever-higher” tiers Throne of Heroes The Throne of Heroes is described as a higher plane of existence, it exists outside of the time-axis and outside of time. Entirely outside of the world. It’s also said to exist beyond the boundaries of space-time and it’s entirely dimensionless. This implies its qualitative superiority over the concepts of space and time, making the Throne of Heroes Outerversal level. By the way, this makes every Heroic Spirit in their “True form” scale to Outerversal because that is where they exist. But servants do NOT scale to this. Outer Gods The realm of the Outer Gods exists beyond the laws and common sense of the universe And the universe itself is inaccessible to anything within the Universe in the “Outer Universe.” The outer gods themselves are described as being beyond the laws and common sense of the universe and are regarded as incomprehensible, higher beings from the outer universe outside of the conventional universe which in itself, as I said above, has several ways of being 1-B Outer gods like Sut-Typhon are said to exist beyond all possible higher dimensions existing outside of the universe So it’s vividly clear that Outer Gods are Outerversal+ since they exist beyond the ultimate gate which already exists beyond the universe. The Akashic Records: The Akashic records are synonymous with the name “spiral of origin.” It is somewhat a realm that was「　」, but because it had a name and comprehensibility, it became separate from「　」and every description given only becomes one with Spiral of Origin and not「　」because it holds true for the Spiral of Origin but not for the incomprehensible「　」. I would explain this better after explaining the Akashic records. The Akashic Records record everything in existence and can create logically everything and governs the dimensional theory of the Nasuverse It’s whole being unrestrained from all possible dimensional theories. The Akashic record itself is unrestrained from everything within reality while governing them, meaning it's either several layers in Outerversal or High Outerversal. But I would stick with just several layers into 1-A. Now it’s time for the daddy of the verse. 「　 」 This is the highest plane of existence within the Nasuverse. It is the absolute one “true infinity” from which you can NEVER reach through by just recursively stacking infinities

Most of the things I knew firsthand before but always incorrectly scaled because of my limited knowledge about the Nasuverse’s cosmology. But now, I think I understand the verse's complexity a little better. It's just too complex for anyone to understand in a short while.And that explains the entirety of the Nasuverse cosmology. The verse reaches Tier 0. This is the latest cosmology scaling that will probably get updated in vsbw(for you vsbw fanatics🗿). All thanks to the CSAP dude.unrestrained from boundaries

The Akashic record itself is unrestrained from everything within reality while governing them, meaning it's either several layers in Outerversal or High Outerversal. But I would stick with just several layers into 1-A.Now it’s time for the daddy of the verse. 「　 」 This is the highest plane of existence within the Nasuverse. It is the absolute one “true infinity” from which you can NEVER reach through by just recursively stacking infinitiesIt’s whole being unrestrained from all possible dimensional theories.These are properties akin to that of the set theories reflection principle, with everything within the Nasuverse representing subsets of it and properties of the root being "reflected" down to smaller sets. In short, to dumb it down, it's like an “inaccessible cardinal” and “absolute infinity” at the same time, both of which are High Outerversal, and everything else in reality, which is several layers into Outerversal, is only a figment of it, in its truest sense which this alone should be enough for it to qualify for High 1-A in vsbw as far as I heard. Furthermore, it's a realm that is restricted from binary oppositionswhich captures dualities in itself on a conceptual level in which Taiji is Transduality type-2. And the root being qualitatively superior to everything and anything within the verse grants it Transduality type 3. Further proof of this is Ryougi Shiki, who is implied to be an existence akin to Wuji(“separate the two polarities” in reference to Taiji in which the separation derives from Wuji”).The oneness before all conceptions, including Taiji being a oneness that denies the concept of limit and one without limit. Consistent with these statements as well, but even such a statement is not enough to capture its truest sense which adds to it being High Outerversal. As this realm is a realm outside of conceptualization representing true abstraction, nothingness, fathomless, indescribable, and beyond the realms of even language.And it’s not because of the finite mental capabilities of Nasuverse characters but due to its endless transcendences as the one absolute that can't be surpassed that is a territory of freedomunrestrained from boundariesAnd that explains the entirety of the Nasuverse cosmology. The verse reaches Tier 0. This is the latest cosmology scaling that will probably get updated in vsbw(for you vsbw fanatics🗿). All thanks to the CSAP dude.Most of the things I knew firsthand before but always incorrectly scaled because of my limited knowledge about the Nasuverse’s cosmology. But now, I think I understand the verse's complexity a little better. It's just too complex for anyone to understand in a short while.

keep crying + every goku pfp i see in those comments is goku meatrider.

@@aroundtheworld3972 lmao just bc i have pfp doenst mean shit. Xeno goku massively stomps

@@aroundtheworld3972Mald

@@dsm2417 FR, xeno goku legit has all the hax they have, and toaster didnt even go over them, he also forgets to mention he can seal up all of these hax and has durability negation + strength stealing xeno goku legit negs

​@@dsm2417no he does not😂 the meatriding is crazy

He does, actually. Can Hurt and Kill Janemba, who is literally Evil Ideas given form. And Evil is a Multiversal scale Concept. Scales to people who can Harm Tokitoki, the Embodiment of Time who also sustains the Existence of all dimensions in DBH He can literally Plot hax Majority of Nasuverse to death With Arale. He can also wish for the same immortality as Zamasu Via Super Shenron. Meaning even attacks on a conceptual Level won't kill him permanently.

Say don’t xeno goku have auto win n if do where at?

N isn’t he resistance to Omni presence n Omni negation

@@kojigoat bro the creator of this video is a db hater

@@choidaniel7026 he got debunk

@@kojigoat Xeno goku was debunked and was debunked several times without numbers and no body have ever debunked it again after that first one so I don’t know where you get your one debunked because even me have all the scans and statements

Nasuverse is also lowballed wtf are on

The same way… he basically said shiki just no diffs…

How xeno Goku can scale to a boneless to infinite boneless power Shone here m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y7ygp7F03pmUmWw.html&pp=ygUJeGVubyBnb2t1

Dude chill cuz this video actually lowballed xeno goku when not including super dimensions, cot, charisma world and real japan world which are all transcended dimensions above 9D, nor did he even include that xeno goku has some of the same hax and resistance that saber and gilgamesh have in this video.

@@malikmcfarlane6060 bro speaking facts

Dude doesnt understand that void is the strongest entity in the nasu verse. If we allow nasu verse logic to apply to goku. Its GG since the root is the highest existence in the verse and void can manipulate it.

@@Dmklegeek Right. So you think its possible to be higher diemensional than the very concept of nasu verse world rules personified? Your statement comes from a lack of understanding of what void is. This video didnt help either since the dude also doesnt understand void lol

Ur everywhere

@@gregkareem9824 Ur also everywhere

no, you can honestly join the cord and we can run it.

@@ToasterXD don’t have cord

⁠@@Rhetorical_Ifeto be honest this comment lose all common sense when you say the nasuverse cap at 4d when the mooncell is literally stated to be 8d with a even higher dimensional core while void shiki/the root being far above even that 😑

Don’t bring the flash into this, hes busted beyond belief 🗣️

Cook🔥

Yea both verse getting cook by wally neg diff

it would make it a lot stronger of course, it can’t be quantified in dimensionality because he isn’t shown to be able to do something above that.

@@ToasterXD that makes sense

@@ToasterXD Not really... Even Manga Goku during the battle of the Gods, rose to a power of his own Ki that shaked the cosmology of his Universe by the end of the Ark. Knowing Manga Goku. Because Xeno Goku is only always in his Base Form. And given Zeno & Shenron who are two halves of Omnipotence. Xeno Goku can very easily ascend to become a Type [x] of Omnipotent Entity. As Azura did against the final boss, The Creator. But if he also did not turn down the offer. Omnipotence has many Types and Factors. Just because two entities are omnipotent, in truth. Their omni potency is not all equal. Void Shiki is the only real threat to Xeno Goku because of how Ki works in relation to Xeno Goku, who is still the same Goku as we see in the Manga/Anime, mind set wise. And given Manga Goku. Should Zeno Goku easily obtain those ascensions. Then he can rival both Zeno and Shenron. Since he is an 8th Dimensional Existence. A layer below the 9th Dimension where Omnipotence resides and what the truth of omnipotence is. (The infinite dimensions is a good measure but it is not accurate at the level of Meta Narratives upon the Omniverse proper.)

Each dimension is infinitely above the lower so just multiplying your power isnt gonna make you a higher dimension.

@@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy Given the DBZ Battle of the Gods. Having a certain level of Ki, God Ki, Blue SS, or Master UI / True UI etc. or even before those transformations... Is enough to transcend dimensionality. As seen when Gotanks??? (If remember his name) warped all of reality in the infinite space of the cosmology bubble he was in, from his mere existence alone during his SS transformation. Then Xeno Goku, with no SS forms, killed a character who could wipe out the entire cosmology of DBZ at the level of Zeno. And killed the Personification of all Evil who transcends dimensionality. The feats Manga/Anime Goku has done, is a measure to Xeno Goku. Both variant characters show the potential of each other.

Dragon Ball Heroes, it's a game in Japan or sumn with it's own lil storyline and stuffs!

no.

@@ToasterXDyes

​@@devaxionrl8189scale them to outer without it bwen debunkable then

@@lucionjones8685 you can debunk things only using faulty lines of logical interpretation which have no consistency within the realm. Xeno goku scales to outerversal.

@@devaxionrl8189 dude scale him and make sure its pretry soild cuz idk why you tryna talk about smt Cuz i never seen a soild scaling about him been outerversal I used to beleive he is high outer but thats not his consistence scaling snice its debunkable So scale him up there and make it hard to debunk if you cant then you cant

Why would Mira not be >Demigra? She’s clearly referring to there not being a single timeline safe from the explosion.

I never said anything about the scaling of a character. I am talking about the context you gave with towa dialouge, and what you said doesn't align.

The next sentence isn't a confirmation that all timelines are at stake. She doesn't know the range of the explosion that would be let off.

I know, but to say Mira wasn’t going to destroy EVERY universe, you’d have to concede on Mira

@ToasterXD He probably could. My issue is the scan you gave for your claim doesn't make sense.

Motherfucker he made goku win against saitama and the big 3, if he hated goku that much he wouldn't let goku win a single time

He literally highballed goku so much during this video,none of this shit gets past 6D.

Voic Shiki is omnipotent and the Moon Cell is literally the Matrix. While Zeno and Shenron are omnipotent and Xeno Goku can rival both if he barely went SS1. Given that in his base form, he defeated enemies who can erase the entire Full Cosmology of the DBZ Verse beyond just Universe 7 etc. It's really not a 50/50 because of Ki/God KI. Zeno Goku can obtain a higher Type of Omniptence that overthrows Void Shiki. Not all Omni Potent Factors and Type Omnipotence are the same.

nah

Unfortunately💀

nope

fax

hell nah

I think that’s a card idk Ima ask

Omnipotent beings literally wipe uncle grandpa out of existence plot manipulation wipes uncle grandpa out of existence he's not even all powerful just a gag character 😊

​​@@Lucky-pc4tg* Uncle Grandpa when he gets wiped out of existence * "Glad im not that guy"

Given the origin of that Tree. Personally, it's rather weak to me but I deal in omnipotence. The dimensions shown in this video is of a Type. Not the Core. Dimensional Shapes but not of Existence. Held to omnipotence... There is only 10 Dimensions. And so the Test may differ... Zeno and Shenron are the test. Exceed them both, then even the Nasuverse crumbles into nothingness. So in a way, the test is faulty if only understood from one means of Dimensionality... If anything... The Infinite Dimensions, is It's name. But even that caps off to a level in Existence.

Cringe😂.

@@ash2crimson968 ok?

@@alibeknorbekov5963 Goku is a shitty person who only cares about fighting. He literally puts everyone's life at risk including his family for the sake of a good fight. And, the determination to get stronger and hard work is almost every shonen protagonist in history, Goku is not special in these traits.

@@alibeknorbekov5963No it doesn’t. Because Saber had her struggles when ruling Camelot and Shiki trained to improve her swordsmanship. Saber, Shiki and Gilgamesh are better characters than Goku. Goku is a solid character btw, but he just has average writing tbh.

@@bern8940 yea Goku isn't a deep complex character

Void Shiki is omnipotent in the Nasuverse... So... Not many characters can actually be a 9th Dimensional Existence. Zeno Goku is 8th Dimensional with the potential of being 9th Dimensional, when unrestricted. However, Zeno Goku is just Base Form Goku. And knowing how broken Ki/God Ki is... The potential is there but as far as the facts go? Zeno Goku caps at 8th Dimensional Existence. (Note:... The infinite dimensions explained in this video is but one Type...)

Watch this video and see if your opinion of Xeno Goku changes kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bZqKY7WlvM27YI0.html

archie sonic presence neggs the verse

yea dbs goku is 5D\6D around multiversal or low-complex i think

I disagree and I’ve said why in earlier videos. I think it’s mostly interpretation based so I don’t think 5D Goku is completely wrong. You could definitely use it if you see fit!

Featherine negs

Beating saber, but sadly anyone that’s Gilgamesh and stronger are going to beat xeno goku. The world we live in

Xeno Goku solo

​@@mr.aboveall4833nah base form goku can one shots the fate verse