The recent obsession with making twist villains is becoming annoying. I hope they either stop making them, or seriously revise how they make them, so it works better

“tHaT wAs HiS mIsTaKe” So much is wrong about this quote

I cannot even call these twist villains anymore. No foreshadowing, barely in the movie and complete character assassination from how he is characterized in the beginning of the movie. I liked the movie because of Baymax, but yea. I did not even know he was supposed to be called Yokai 😂

if Yokai/Callahan got, like, 10 minutes of extra screen time i feel like it could've worked. Had Callahan mention his daughter during a mentorship scene with Hiro/Todashi, mention how ambition/talent can lead you astray, how *someone* can take advantage of naive wunderkinds for their own ends. I also think that if he was more featured in the crowd reaction to the mircrobots and showed him hatching a plan DURING the presentation as Hiro showed off what they could do. set up the anger, the HUNGER in him but in context it could possibly be construed as awe.

You know what's extra funny? The TV show for Big Hero 6 had a villain that was clearly just Yokai but better. Better character writing, better motivations, much better execution. His name was Obake and I hate that people don't talk about him more.

I really think Disney should make less twist villains. When every other movie has them they aren't interesting. What would have been amazing is if they set up Callahan as a potential twist villain with everything that makes them good but don't set him back alive, and then reveal that it's all a ruse set up by Krei to frame a man who is still dead.

I understand Callaghan is hurt/angry about losing his Daughter Abigail, but ALL of that falls apart when you realize Callaghan was supporting his daughter to be a *TEST Pilot.* Sooner or later something was going to go wrong with that kind of job.

It's sad, beause Yokai had the potential to be a great villain. His name is badass (His name is based on the word Youkai from Japanese folklore, which is difficult to explain but Youkai are akin to monsters from mythos, like the Loch Ness Monster or Big Foot) and I like his objective character design and how intimidating the microbots make him. It's a shame that his villainy was given no hints throughout the film, and he was presumed dead until his random re-appearance, making his villainy shocking but in a very unsatisfying way. Big Hero was great in the first half of the movie, but really fell through in the second half. I wonder if the second half of the movie was rushed because the shift in writing and story quality was pretty drastic.

Speaking of Zootopia, you should also make an analyses of Dawn Bellwether, the sheep assistant mayor from Zootopia. I hesitate to call her a twist villain, because I figured out Bellwether was the villain halfway in the film, however, I nominate King Candy from Wreck it Ralph as a candidate for good twist villain, because I was genuinely surprised by the reveal.

"That was his mistake!" - Robert Callaghan

I actually thought Tadashi was going to be the twist villain because of Baymax's line of: "Tadashi is still here"

I love hearing Schaffrillas make fun of Yokai for how bad of a twist villain he is, and I'm happy this video brings some extra light on that matter. Schaffrillas just pointed out the basics on why he's not a good villain, but he isn't wrong in calling him a bad villain. It's fairly obvious, if you look into his character in more detail, that he wasn’t set up very well. I like this video for going into further detail on his character, and even further justifying why Yokai is a very poorly set up villain, and just a poor villain overall. I really like the examples you used that would have made a better villain/twist villain. Truly great video!

Honestly I feel weird about the daughter still being alive, part of me does like the idea that Callahan's quest for vengeance took away who he valued most, but 1 he was right to hate Krei and 2 Callahan is a foil to Hiro, why not have it be that Krei's recklessness killed both of them in different ways but Hiro has to come to terms with Tadashi's death while still bringing Krei to justice, whereas Callahan's revenge is so devastating that innocent people are being hurt. Yes it's a cliche, but at least the foil thing works. Honestly one scene I like from the cartoon spinoff is that part where Hiro talks to Callahan and says he can't forgive him, I wish we got more of an expansion on their connection and how fundamentally different they are.

Here's my version of how Youkai could have been handled. During the expo, Callahan's mood switches from kind mentor to seething rage the second he sees Krei show up. Callahan asks him why he showed his face at the expo with Krei responding that while he is sorry for what happened years ago, he isn't going to stop advancing science and robotics. Krei's also bothered when Hiro declines to sell the Microbots, but respects his decision, albeit while saying that Hiro will regret not selling them. As for the fire, it was an accident caused by Callahan. He was frustrated with the way Krei has been so callous with him and his students that he lashed out in a backroom, one that caught fire and trapped him with the Microbots. After using the Microbots to save himself, Callahan decides to get revenge on Krei. However, Krei is the only one Callahan wants to hurt/kill. Hiro and his friends got too close and had to be scared off. Upon hearing that Tadashi died and that Hiro blames him for his death, Callahan sullens and says something among the lines of, "You have every right to take my life, but not before I take what Krei cares about." Hiro will either let Callahan go or try to kill him right then and there, but either option results in Hiro's friends trying to stop him/Callahan, which results in Hiro turning Baymax into a killing machine and the movie continuing as it did.

I like what you came up with Tadashi being the villain. If Callahan died in a fire that Krai caused, it would've given him a motivation to want to take revenge. Maybe he went into the building and was almost able to save Callahan, came across Krai who refused to help him and displayed clear signs that he was the cause and leaving them to die. Tadashi is able to get out but gets very badly burned in the process, as well as fails to save his beloved mentor. Badly damaged and filled with remorse but also pure hatred for Krei, he's too ashamed to go back to his family and starts planning his revenge on Krei.

"When everyone's super, no one will be" Describes perfectly the twist villain era, after watching 2 or 3 movies you already know what's gonna happen every damn time

I knew this video was coming. While I don’t think twist villains are bad on their own, I think Disney should still use outright evil villains from time to time, because they’re so entertaining. Also, let me know if you’re still doing What Happened To videos. I’d like to see those again.

Still like Big hero 6 but that’s mostly because of the emotional beats with Hiro and Baymax. And I really think it would’ve been better as a drama between a grieving teen and a medical bot that doesn’t quite understand human emotions. Which is why Hiro’s hurt, not a physical form of harm. But gotta hand it to ya, this is a much better twist

I didn't really understand why people thought Yokai was a bad villain until now. You explained it perfectly! Keep up the great work! :D

One thing that was overlooked is that they do everything they can to make sure you don’t see it coming which I’d say adds to the problem with it being surprising since it’s less that they hid it well and more that they just overcompensated because they felt the need to shock the audience

Besides being a terrible villain, something that's always been on my mind about him is the fact that if you think about it, in the end he kinda came out winning after the whole ordeal. Sure he got beaten and arrested like most villains typically do after losing against the heroes. But in the end if he hadn't done everything he did, no one would have ever figured out the whole daughter thing and even less rescue her. At least by the logic the story went anyway, sure he didnt get his proper revenge, but im sure knowing he's daughter is alive and back is enough to "justify" everything in his eyes even if he's now in prison for it. Anyway still a very poor villain LOL, definitely would have preferred the scenarios mentioned in the video far more.

I immediately knew who the villain was going to be the moment he appeared onscreen. The second time this happened was Incredibles 2. It's unfortunate that this twist villain trope has been used so much, it's lost its luster.

I really wanna see that first draft of the movie. It would be so cool, seeing a twist villain bait be both correct and incorrect. But I think they would need to heavily lean into getting rid of the others non-lethally, and have Krei do a lot more bad things like showing up to Callaghan’s funeral to mock him or something, try to steal the design for the mic robots from Hiro, or something like that to make it seem understandable for someone like Tadashi to switch from help people to punishing Kreis actions

I like your version where Tadashi is Yokai, that works out really well

Tadashi being Yokai is a really cool idea. It would also give a new meaning to Baymax declaring throughout the movie that "Tadashi is here." He's not being metaphorical, he's literally saying "Tadashi is *here*, he isn't dead." Maybe the movie could end by foreshadowing that Tadashi will become part of Hiro's group, as part of his redemption.

As Linkara said in HOPR "There's a difference in having a sympathetic backstory and actually being sympathetic"

I rather like Big Hero 6, but Yokai is, hands down, the weakest part of the whole thing. Going from almost fatherly pride in Todashi, to He shouldn't have gotten in the way? Weak.

What’s odd is that his motivations are inherently sympathetic since he wants to save his daughter, and yet he still isn’t sympathetic because he never needed to destroy stuff and be the villain

Movie was okay. Not amazing. Not terrible. Just ok. The villain was precisely the problem. Good vid mate

I don't why Callahan couldn't just ask Hiro if he could borrow the micro-bots so he could do his revenge in secret.

While I can agree with the fact that Yokai wasn't a good villain story wise, I still enjoyed the intimidation he kinda brings in his design and his attack on the new office building was also cool to see. But an idea I have is, why not kinda have both Yokai and Krei be the villain? What I mean by that is, still reveal that Yokai is making and controlling the micro-bots and that it's due to the fact that his daughter was lost in the space between portals in a test experiment, but leave another twist for another time in the movie. The new twist would be that Yokai is working for Krei, and that Krei is working in the shadows out of sight. Krei would be feeding Yokai a lie that if he does certain actions for him, he will bring back Yokai's daughter. In reality, Krei would have no intention of doing this and plans to put all the blame of what happened on Yokai and keeping himself out of trouble. That's just my idea. I feel like Yokai had the potential, but it didn't live up to the hype.

But in the end "That was His Mistake!"

That little section with boba fett was hilarious. Never seen that before.

Oh my gosh Tadashi being Yokai makes so much more sense. Especially since Yokai are spirits from Japanese mythos and are sometimes described as "the embodiment of a moment" which would be a really clever to incorporate how the fire affected Tadashi, and then the villain would have had a much closer connection to Hiro, but alas...

Yea, The only reason he is even slightly memorable to me is because I love the micro-bots and they way they are used as a power, its such a cool power and how they are used is fun. Well then we have "That was his mistake."...

The manga version of the film actually changes the story and motivations; and in my opinion, it tells the story better than what the movie did

"That was his, miss Steak!"

the worst part is they could have made Callaghan being the villain work with one change, making Krei the one who started the fire in a failed attempt to steal the microbots with Callaghan having gotten to them first and used them to protect himself when the fire started with the result of that being what pushed Callaghan over the edge, this would make his turn to villainy more understandable as he already lost someone close to him due to Krei's actions and now he lost both his best student and good friend because of Krei it would be the metaphorical straw that breaks the camel's back and sets Callaghan on the dark path he goes down

I'm surprised that not even in the comments someone points out that Callahan is a parallel to Hiro. When Hiro finds out that Callahan is to blame for Tadashi's death, we see how he doesn't think of anything but revenge, which doesn't change until Baymax and the others help him to deal with it. Callahan is supposed to be the same but instead of moving on he let the loss consume him and now wants nothing but revenge. I'm not going to deny the character's mistakes, I'm just a bit annoyed that no one even takes into account the parallel between the two. I thought it was conspicuous and important enough to talk about it in this topic.

Man you have the worst luck with the copyright claims. Great video. I hope it gets out there. I like Big Hero 6, but I totally agree with everything you said. I never saw it coming when he was revealed as the villain, but not in a good way. It just made no sense.

I feel like the ideas behind Disney's recent twist villains are inherently flawed. Not that a character you thought you could trust would actually become bad, but more that they had to have been a villain the entire time, or that if you could see them coming then it wouldn't be nearly as twisty. You should give the audience hints about someone's true nature, or have someone not perform a heel face turn as much as they were already opposed to something that the heroes were doing and are forced to act in response

I loved this movie. But not because of the villain. Because of Baymax

The fact that his first name isn't "That was his mistake" hit me like a sack of wet bricks

Omni Man is a good twist villain because we are given reason for him not to be one, his screen time shows him being a hero and a good father so when he does brutally murder his team, we are shocked by this. Not that he's an established threat we are now scared for the heroes because we know about the bomb under the table but they don't. This is where Yokai fails, we don't establish him as an ally or a threat and his reveal changes nothing.

His character felt pretty empty. I once read a manga made for Big Hero 6 that had a bit more details on Callahan’s past. It tells us that throughout his busy life, he never made enough time to see his daughter or sick wife. When his wife died, he set out on making a teleportation device that will allow people to get from one place to another with ease - it’s why he’s so hellbent on getting Agatha back. There are two books on it if you’re curious. They’re pretty good

Calahan's motivations aren't great, but I'm surprised how many people think he's a bad twist villain because they didn't see it coming that he was the bad guy. I thought it was super obvious: 1: He's super supportive of the protagonist 2: He's presumed dead, but not shown dying 3: He wasn't the guy they were implying was the bad guy Admittable, all that is meta context. The characters in the movie have no reason to apply movie tropes and modern attempts at trope subversions to their situation at hand, but movie audiences should. (I also almost immediately clocked Eveyln Deaver as the bad guy of Incredibles 2. Hans escaped my notice, though. Stupid Hans.)

another point with Callahan stealing the microbots is that he could've just asked Hiro to see one and study how it works. doesn't it set up that he's some big shot robotics expert? it makes perfect sense that he'd be curious about them and Hiro would probably just be like "whoa, he wants to look at my tech!" though you are correct about him just shooting Cray if he really doesn't care.

I've got it! I've got it, guys! The perfect twist: Hiro spends the better part of the movie trying to catch the masked man, failing miserably each and every time. To cheer him up, Baymax shows footage of Tadashi attempting to light after sleepless night to bring Baymax to life. Hiro is inspired by the footage of his brother trying and trying again. It strengthens his resolve to complete his mission and to prove Baymax right in his belief that Tadashi is still with them, as long as they remember him and make sure to avenge his death at the hands of the masked man. They sneak onto the quarantined island and they find Yokai. After they all work together to catch the bad guy, they rip off his mask to reveal… Tadashi faked his own death in that fire and that he himself has been using the micro-bots as Yokai. This is when we realise that Baymax was right all along, but that he didn't give you the full story. (how could he? He did not know it himself.) Tadashi is evil! Tadashi was alive the whole time! Tadashi has always been jealous of his little brothers inherent genius at robotics and other sciences. Hiro is brilliant, without even trying to be brilliant, and after one too many tries to bring his robotic nursing project life, Tadashi has grown to despise his brother for his untapped potential and has decided to take the technology for himself, and use it to conquer the world.

Actually, Tadashi turned out to be a villain plot was very popular when this movie came out. Especially in tumblr and facebook. It was wild.

It was not about the twist, and having it be Callahan is actually far smarter of a move than you think. Because he survived, but Hiros brother didn't. It isn't even about what he was doing, in Hiros mind, it should have been Callahan, not Tadashi.

To me it felt like the whole portal dimension thing was built up for Baymax' sacrifice at the end to be neessary. The movie feels to me like it was written backwards, 'nurse robot sacrifice tearjerker moment' then they convoluted the plot to get to that end.

I think this movie didn't need a twist villain at all. They should have just left the business guy as the villian. The movie was more about overcoming grief anyway. Keep the villian simple.

I was today years old when I discovered he's called 'yokai'. I always thought it was just 'man in the Kabuki mask'

Effing THANK YOU! Some friends and I had a discussion about this not too long ago. Tadashi being the twist villain absolutely makes more sense and the professor could've been written off as a Red Herring. Where it's very obvious that the Professor's s Yokai to the audience, only for the twist to be revealed to be Tadashi as you just planned out.

Really good twist villain in Disney? King Andrias in “Amphibia”?

I'm so glad you are examining the worst of these characters Please do Hans next

He was such a randomly dropped villain. Like literally the most random one of them all. One of my personal favourite twist villains, Makima, was literally hinted over quite a lot. She’s seen controlling the characters even if it’s very subtle. She silently manipulates the characters in the best way possible. I think halfway through the movie the writers just said “Random bullshit go!”

I think my biggest problem with Yokai is that he's undercooked and not given enough time to explain why he's doing all of this during his reveal (even though I personally think he's one of the more better twist villains, but no where on the levels or Commander Rourke, Stinky Pete, and Waternoose, but better than Hans and especially Bellwether). To be fair to Callaghan in defense, there's a clue early on where Callaghan has his own grudge with Krei. Callaghan knew that he needed Hiro's micro bots to execute his plan of revenge on Krei, despite Krei also wanted Hiro's micro bots but he refuses Krei's offer before the fire went down. I think that the reveal scene should've taken the time to go a little further into his reasoning of becoming the twist villain of the movie, aside how he survived. Perhaps explain why Callaghan wanted the micro bots more as he struggled to come up with a ideal weapon for his revenge on Krei and thought it was time to take action against Krei with the upcoming opening of his new campus. After all, since Krei took something away from Callaghan, it makes sense for Callaghan to do the same to Krei. Another thing is that bugs me is how he's unsympathetic and inhuman toward his students, to Hiro and his response to Tadashi's death. Again in defense, had Callaghan shown his weakness of caring for his students, that would've secretly raised red flags for him, even if they suspect that he is Krei. In a fanfic story of Big Hero 6 I'm working on, he should be completely unaware that Tadashi died and that he was responsible for his death. He claims responsibility, truly feels guilty, and is extremely sorry and apologetic towards Hiro, but also points out that he's not the only one who lost someone they cared for, which is why he's doing all of this. Hiro acts emotional by having Baymax as the murderer to Callaghan, and will act as a bit of reflection showing that he's better than that. But later on at the opening when Callaghan planed on destroying not only Krei's campus but also killing him as well, Krei couldn't help but make things worse after when Hiro talks some sense into him. Now given what I mentioned (by the way, let me know what you think of the changes that could've make Callaghan a better twist villain), I would personally love to see the return of fully fleshed out villains of the past. I enjoy villains like Scar, Jafar, Frollo, Yzma, Maleficent, Lady Tremaine, Gaston, because they we got to know them from the beginning to the end. Now that's not to say I don't like some of the twist villains Disney and Pixar have made, I do like some of them, it's just that recently that's getting really tiring and old as villains of recent Disney movies haven't been all that great, and especially fall flat compare to the heroes with the twist reveals.

Something that also bothers me is how the movie tries to make Callaghan into a sympathetic villain but the guy legit had no empathy for Hiro suffering a similar loss to him, or even that said loss was also a beloved student of his ("That was his mistake"). Something like this maybe could have still been pulled off if they didn't just have Callaghan make a full 180 in characterization the moment he's outed as the villain. At least they could have addressed that hypocrisy and not brushed it off.

If I may ask, what did you think about "that was his mistake" line? I think that line further makes his reveal worst because, he seemed like he really cared about his students to just "ah fuck them, not my problem".

Years later? More like months. And the whole course of the movie after is likely only days to a couple weeks. Callahan is *not* evil. Twisted by grief that all that matters is destroying everything that Kray cares about, yes. But not evil. And that is why he destroys the "office". To expose Kray's lax standards of safety and to cause such financial damage that with the tarnished reputation the thing that Kray seems to care about to pouring all his energy into will never recover. Believing a man is responsible for the death of your child yet faces no consequences can drive a man to do very, very bad things. Perhaps the issue is more a lack of runtime. Keep things mostly the same, but slowly feed in the fact that Callahan had a daughter that was a test pilot died in a testing accident. Then tie the symbol to Kraytech's secretive labs as a transportation system. Then that the project was shut down after a test pilot was lost and the building nearly destroyed. Along the way, keep up the thread of a potential industrial sabatage. And hey.... why not have some subtle hints that Yokai might be Tadashi. Make it more mystery than twist villain. Then, when the test footage turns up the last link falls into place.

I do like Yokai's design & the creativity with the microbots I think if he was kept mute & the mask stayed on. It would make a good Boba fett type of villain, & by not revealing the villain it changes up the twist villain formula. (Also Tadashi would have been a better choice for the statements u said, it would be also been a pay off for Baymax repeating the line "Tadashi is here" & him revealing he did DNA match).

I remember watching the film with my brother and immediately when the scientist walked in I leaned over to my brother guessing, “He’s the bad guy.” I was kind of hoping it’d end up being the older brother because of how easy it was to see it coming.

Having Tadashi be Yokai is a bit of a double edged sword. On one hand, making him the villain could damage the arc of Hiro and his grief, but it would also make it more tragic. I can see the potential, but there would have to be some things changed about Tadashi before the fire to make it flow a bit better, otherwise it’s a similar issue with Callaghan seemingly deciding to be evil. Also, Tadashi’s death is kinda stupid. He chose to run into a burning building, while it’s admirable… he is not a firefighter. Anyone who charges into a fire without any gear or training is just asking to die a tragic death designed for character motivation

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Deadass, my whole family thought Yokai was gonna be Tadashi, and when it wasn't, we were all confused.

honestly I don't mind Callahan being the twist completely, it does make sense that he doesnt like cray for sending his daughter to who knows where and that "hes looking for the perfect opportunity to strike" but at that point why not just hire some assassin from the back ally or something, the fact he didn't check if his daughter was even still alive still baffles me too.

I wanted Tadashi to be the Yokai so BADLY! The emotional impact that would have had on Hiro! The bittersweet end of the brothers reuniting only for Tadashi to be put to jail, but still alive and able to be visited...

So many things wrong with this video where do I even begin? Well let's start in order. 1:46 - Callaghan never tells anyone that his daughter was part of Krei's experiments. Hiro and his friends find out from a security footage. 1:55 - Callaghan doesn't want to destroy Krei's "new office building" he wants to send Krei (along with his company's headquarters) through the same the teleportation gate he sent his daughter through. 2:20 - Incorrect. Hiro is the only one who knows about the Yokai building an army of microbots and is therefore a danger to his plans. 2:35 - Not exactly. The first interaction between Callaghan and Krei implies that something has happened. It's only latter that we learn about specifics. 2:44 - Incorrect. Let me quote: "Bot-fighter, right? When my daughter was younger, that's all she wanted to do" 2:55 - Look at my points above. There is a build up and clues. You just couldn't have bothered to pay enough attention to notice them. 3:17 - There are no hints at Callaghan being evil because he's not evil. At least not in a traditional Disney villain way. He's angry and resentful towards Krei because of what happened to his daughter. And there *are* hints toward this. 6:29 - Krei was never portrayed like a ruthless manipulative person. He was accused of being like that by third parties both of who were proven to be unreliable.

I never thought about how much cooler it would’ve been if Tadashi was the villain, but hearing this explanation, it makes complete sense now.

I think there is one thing you are forgetting. The core of this movie is Baymax helping Hiro grief the death of Tadashi, and not lose sight of what he stood for. And none of your points or suggestions seemed to have had that in mind. Yes, the villain needed more fleshing out, the twist definitely needed more build up, and the villains plan definitely needed more work, but if you're gonna change something, it has to be in service of the main characters' arc. Having the villain be Tadashi would make even less sense because it wouldn't push Hiro's arc forward. It completely removes Hiro's need to grieve, and it would completely go against everything Baymax stands for. Changing Tadashi would require changing Baymax's entire reason for existing in the film. As for Krei, Hiro already went in with the intention to capture him, not kill him, and it would not make any sense for Hiro to do a complete 180 and go "I'm actually gonna kill this person now.". Yes killing Krei could've been Hiro's motivation from the start, but you'd lose the friendship he forms with Baymax. Also sure, you could just write a scene where Krei taunts Hiro about Tadashi's death, but I think that would be a weaker and overdone reason for for Hiro to go completely against what Tadashi stood for than the complete and utter betrayal he felt with Callaghan. Callagan's betrayal, in concept, makes sense because it pushes Hiro and Baymax's story forward. It challenges Hiro, and completely flips his world upside down. The man that motivated him to make the Microbots in the first place is the reason why his brother died. And it's the fact that Callaghan let Tadashi die, even though he went there to save Callaghan, that sets Hiro off the edge to the point he would remove Tadashi's chip from Baymax, and order him to take someone's life, completely going against Tadashi's programming, leading his friends and Baymax to remind him what Tadashi really wanted for him, and Hiro coming through and honoring his brother's wishes of using his talents to save others in the end.

I was on the fence at first, but you made a lot of good points. Now I'm forever gonna pine for a version of BH6 with Yokai Tadashi

I managed to call this twist watching the movie, but it wasn't because I was putting the pieces together and seeing the signs. It was because I knew they were neck deep in their 'twist villain' mode, and so I asked myself "Who is the least likely person to be the villain in this instance?"

Actually, we did know that Callaghan had a daughter early into the movie. However, it was a single one off line so inconsequential that it’s easy to miss. When Hiro first meets the professor, Callaghan mentions that his daughter was also once into robot fighting. That’s it. Nothing to suggest that she’s presumed dead.

If Challaghan really had to be the villain, I would have made it this way: first off, Hiro gives the microbots to Cray, despite Callaghan's warnings, in exchange for a lot of money (his family is not rich, after all). Due to this, the professor decides to destroy them, so that Cray can't have them, but accidentally causes the fire which kills Tadashi, but not before Hiro, who had seen he was acting suspicious, followed him to a secret room and watched part of the video of the experiment with the professor's daughter and put it on a usb drive. Also, I would give Callahan's daughter the codename 'Yokai', to explain why the professor took it later. Anyways, after the twist, Hiro finishes the video and realises that Callahan wants to recreate the portals and send Cray-not his building-into the mysterious dimension thingy, to get revenge for his daughter.

something I've never liked about this guy (I forget his name) is how he responded when Hiro confronted him about how Tadashi sacrificed himself to try and save him, and what was his response to hearing that one of his students that he cared so much for sacrificed himself for him? "That was his mistake". fucking excuse me?! where did that animosity towards one of, if not his top student come from?! it makes absolutely no sense for him to be so careless and remorseless about how he caused the death of someone he cared about. I do not care if the people who wrote the story did it for shock value. it was never hinted at that there would be any kind of animosity towards his students. in fact, the movie hinted at the OPPOSITE. why the fuck would he have this attitude about Tadashi dying trying to save him?! it makes no sense and destroys what little potential he had as a twist villain

I'm almost positive that Tadashi WAS going to be Yokai at one point, but Disney got cold feet given how much of Baymax and Hiro's motivations hinge on him. So they probably just came up with Callaghan, not as a real "twist" but just to fill in a plot quagmire. Same thing with the Frozen movies.

6:15 What makes that even funnier is that in the movie, Fred himself actually points this out.

I wanna do a little rewrite of this guy right here, because I think it might be fun. So instead of having Yokai’s big reveal be at the very end, instead let’s have his identity revealed to us near the middle of the film before the main characters find out who he is so that he has plentiful time to shine as the main antagonist. Next, we’ll make him a bit more of a tragic figure, him completely dismissing Tadashi’s death that he indirectly caused feels very out of character for him, so perhaps instead of him going full on evil, he’ll try and reason with Hiro about how he didn’t mean for his brother to die and that he’s sorry for what happened to him, all while Hiro is just blinded by grief and tries to kill Callaghan. Finally, we’ll change his plan, Callaghan using the teleporter that gobbled up his daughter to get back at some guy seems very irresponsible, so instead we’ll make his plan just to have him try and find his daughter, using the micro-bots to gather resources in order to rebuild the portal and maybe when our heroes find out what he was actually trying to do, they’ll be more understanding of him but also don’t want the portal to destroy all of San Fransokyo. It can be a Mr. Freeze esc story where rather than him being a stereotypical villain he’s a much more tragic figure that had his life ripped from his arms and is desperately trying to get it back. Of course, this is all just my opinion, and if anyone has any ideas on how he can be made better, I’d love to here them.

I think you're right, they went for the most shocking twist instead of a more cohesive story. There is a line of reasoning that a story should take the audience on an emotional journey, but that only works if there is a believable path from emotional beat A to emotional beat B. If there is no path then there is no journey and feelings fade if they even landed to begin with.

Actually Callahan mentions his daughter in the first time he meets Hiro, and when he talks about Krei to Hiro st the competition , he says he shouldn’t trust Krei with anything while his voice sounds angry and he glares at Krei at this moment. So there are hints to his twist as the villain before it happens, it’s just more subtle.

As someone who was an adult when I saw the movie, it was obvious it was him. From the moment the fire started I knew he was the villain, and they hadn't revealed there'd be a villain. I was so convinced I tried to tell myself that there'd be an actual twist and that it would be Hiro's brother instead.

"Yokai" didn't mean "ghost", but just "supernatural beign", the japanese word used to refers to ghosts is "yurei", but this is just me being nitpicky about japanese folklore details that nobody cares about

Callahan is so bad of a twist villain, KZfaqr Schafrillas productions dunks on/memes him almost all the time on his channel 😂

It's not an Animated movie, but I think The Black Hole's Dr. Hans Reinhardt is a pretty good twist villain. He's introduced as someone to trust, he has a plan that progresses the plot, his clearly sinister Maximilian is a useful hint, and he's introduced pretty early on.

I enjoyed the movie. However, going into the movie, I called Callahan was going to be the villain. Going into the movie I think I would have preferred if it was the business mogul. Heck I would have settled for if Takashi got brainwashed by Callahan if they set up for the story. I wished they could have done better with Callahan because it felt they fumbled the character.

Even in spite of the fact that he is considered one of the worst twist villains by Disney, he is somehow still a better and less frustrating twist villain than lightyears

My first thought was, "His villain name is YOKAI?!" The other comments say this was mentioned in the credits and other media but it's kind of indicative that he never left an impression on me. Didn't even have his cool name mentioned.

Say the line, James! “That was his mistake.” YAAAAAAY!!

Pretty sure it was a double twist villain that was setting up krei to be the villain The earlier conversation between krei and kallahan hints at a possible villainy, something that Fred catches on to quickly

Tadashi doesn't need to steal from the burning building. The montage shows Tadashi and the others helping Hiro gather all the little bots and take them to the expo. Tadashi could have pocketed one at any point. He and Hiro literally share a room. Thus it makes perfect sense for him to be able to make more since he was there throughout the creation process.

If Callaghan was maybe a bit more empathic to Hiro's loss (I thought that's where they were going with the whole "losing his daughter" subplot) that might have made him a more interesting and rounded villian, even if it still isn't a super logical choice for a twist, but they gave that up too. This movie baffles me.

People have memed "that was his mistake" to hell and back, and for good reason. They set up this clear dichotomy between the hero and villain; both Hiro and Callaghan are grieving lost loved ones. Callaghan goes ballistic trying to destroy Krei's life bc he blames him for losing his daughter. But when confronted by Hiro who calls out how--by his own logic--he is now to blame for Hiro losing his brother, he just says "well he shouldn't have tried to save me from the deadly situation I created" (which he totally didn't need to create btw~). So by his own logic ig it was his daughter's mistake choosing to go into that machine and Krei isn't at fault lol. ig the point is that Callaghan's supposed to be crazy or a hypocrite or whatever, but they make Callghan 180 harder than Prince Hans, dude. all time spent establishing him feels it meant nothing, aside from him making it clear how much he dislikes Krei. like u said, it felt like they cared abt more abt shocking the audience than what made sense and/or fit the narrative... I liked ur idea of Tadashi being the villain; on first viewing, I thought that was what the movie might do and was gonna be disappointed but it could've worked. And what they went with was worse

"THAT WAS HIS MISTAKE!" **spits out water**

The least they could’ve done is have him reconciling in a scene, mentioning his daughter and how he blames Krei for it. After that the motives are clear, hes a more understandable character, but even after all of that the point still stands, “why doesn’t he just shoot him?”

I think the movie really worked against itself by making “removing the mask” the means of ceasing Callaghan’s control of the micro bots. It makes who’s underneath the mask such a focus during a stretch of the movie where the audience’s attention should really be directed away from that, if the mystery is really going to work.

I honestly think the best fix would be to keep Yokai and the second half of the film as is, and just ad some sings earlier on, like what if he explained that he wanted to nurture these kids' futures because it's a small way of continuing his daughters legacy, and set up the explosion so only he himself was ment to "die", making it a genuine point of sadness for both sides that Tedashi died trying to save him.

How was Callaghan able to build a PORTAL without knowing how portals work? If the microbots can build literally anything you want, Callaghan could just build some kind of "God Machine" that lets him do literally anything, subject Kray to incomprehensible torture, take over the universe, or, heck, bring his daughter back. Did no one realize how ridiculously overpowered the microbots are?

What could've been changed, and do you think it's possible for someone like me to change this film's plot to make Yo-Kai a better twist villain or to remove the twist outright and instead make him more straightforward and instead put a focus on slowly turning him into a villain underneath another villain that rises up and overthrows that villain and eventually becomes good by the end? If not, would you like to see someone defy all of your expectations? Cray being the villain that twists Yo-Kai, which can be either Tadashi or Callahan. Okay then, notes taken!

Really the only slight hint that Callaghan is the villain is the quote "But you should know Mr. Krei has cut corners and ignored sound science to get where he is." Even then, you can't tell that this is talking about silent sparrow. It could've been about any of Krei's projects.