Why You Can't Hold Centerline on Landing | Coordinating Rudder and Aileron

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Күн бұрын

Even when there's practically no wind, we find ourselves drifting off the centerline on landing? Why is that, and how should we think about landings to help hold that line?
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@harambesbackyard92
@harambesbackyard92 Жыл бұрын
You guys are using rudder?
@jacobstone520
@jacobstone520 22 күн бұрын
This is unironically how I reacted when I first watched this
@benc1103
@benc1103 Жыл бұрын
Depends a lot on the particular airplane. Left turning tendencies mostly go away when you pull the power to idle. If your aircraft's fin is offset to counter those tendencies (set for neutral rudder during cruise), you'll need a bit of left rudder when you pull the power off for descent and on short final because the fin is set to yaw the nose to the right. So watch out for this and don't be surprised if you need a bit of left rudder. In the end, it doesn't matter what causes it. Your job is to use rudder to keep the nose pointed straight down the runway, and ailerons to kill any drift away from centerline. And a lot of the time, the two controls will need opposite inputs, sort of like chewing gum and walking at the same time. Also, a pilot tends to land on the side of the runway corresponding to the side of the plane he sits on. Left seaters tend to land on the left side of the runway and right seaters tend to land on the right side. Doesn't seem to matter if it's a Cessna 172 or a Boeing. BC 26,000 hrs
@PlaneGuyProud
@PlaneGuyProud Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! THANK YOU SO MUCH! OMG!!!
@enqueue100
@enqueue100 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I was thinking similarly while watching the video
@LilFish722
@LilFish722 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@otisdean4684
@otisdean4684 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man!It helps me a lot cause Im struggling in landing as Im learning to fly c172.
@nickde6339
@nickde6339 Жыл бұрын
This happens to me in the PA 28 Warrior II. Instead of right rudder, Flaring, I see the nose sort of pointed toward the right and I use left rudder
@athgt6630
@athgt6630 Жыл бұрын
Great video. IMHO aligning and holding centreline is one of the few things that is a bit easier in real life than in a sim. In front of a screen, perception of where exactly the aircraft is moving towards is more difficult. IRL you also have better realisation of the effects of your control inputs.
@xlhits
@xlhits 23 күн бұрын
Couldn’t agree more.
@predatorec
@predatorec Жыл бұрын
Remember that most aircraft have differential ailerons to counteract to a certain amount the effect of adverse yaw during turning, This channel is awesome!!!
@Queenlene0710
@Queenlene0710 Жыл бұрын
Whyyyyy has my instructor not told me this?! 😩i struggle with centerline so much. I’m going in with a new attitude tmrw! Thank you!
@frankmuller73
@frankmuller73 Жыл бұрын
I had the same problem, sack your instructor ,that's what I am doing
@rapinncapin123
@rapinncapin123 4 ай бұрын
😀​@@frankmuller73
@paulcrooks9573
@paulcrooks9573 Жыл бұрын
You're absolutely amazing. I never thought of applying right rudder on landings as it applies to pitching up
@-TK-421
@-TK-421 Жыл бұрын
WOW. great video.. This would explain why I am all over the place when I am trying to land and all I did was make a slight adjustment to the left or right and I turn the plane with out wanting to. Very helpful Thank you.
@Shane2020xxx
@Shane2020xxx Жыл бұрын
Interesting! I was about 40 hours in and didn’t have much trouble with straight in landings anymore. I guess I was at the point where my “muscle memory” would accurately auto-correct things like adverse yaw. But I should probably get in the habit of consciously remembering the forces and which way they pull, both for myself and maybe even upgrading to CFI someday.
@landen99
@landen99 Жыл бұрын
Really good video. Thank you.
@HeatMyShorts
@HeatMyShorts 3 ай бұрын
I'm just a self-taught/KZfaq-taught Simulator 'pilot' but I think this will be very helpful. Thank you
@MrDanoman812
@MrDanoman812 Жыл бұрын
Great video...!! Another 'force' that will cause it is all of that you said with the addition of Ground effect. The cushion of air added with the torque through the center line of the prop will exaggerate this effect as you approach you're aircrafts stall speed.
@tawrencehewitt8923
@tawrencehewitt8923 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video!!!
@ericmcgrew8952
@ericmcgrew8952 Ай бұрын
Excellent explanation!
@ericdrozd8739
@ericdrozd8739 9 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation
@archerpiperii2690
@archerpiperii2690 11 ай бұрын
This should be required viewing for every flight student. And after watching this video, chair fly the process until it becomes automatic. Phoenix, AZ
@loveoneanotherasihaveloved8327
@loveoneanotherasihaveloved8327 10 ай бұрын
Thanks, Ahwatukee
@RedSailor1701
@RedSailor1701 Жыл бұрын
and I was just thinking about this ... neat!
@Richard-ib3kp
@Richard-ib3kp Жыл бұрын
One thing that seems to never get mentioned is the wind change on final. When you are fighting to cross control the airplane 500 feet agl and below the winds are stronger and perhaps from a different angle than in the flare. It’s a good idea to make sure at the higher altitudes on final you have adequate rudder authority to straighten it out but for more practical use, fly the plane down centerline and accept the crab angle til over the numbers and then apply whatever correction is needed before the flare. The correction is typically much less down lower and better than wrestling the plane all the way down final. If you have to accept a small angle on landing it’s not the end of the world in most cases. What you don’t want is to land with a high crosswind component beyond your ability or that of the aircraft. Side load on the gear should be kept to a minimum.
@sojufighter8451
@sojufighter8451 2 ай бұрын
I really needed this. MORE. RIGHT. RUDDER.
@nikofoto
@nikofoto Жыл бұрын
Watched this video, this morning before my PPL lesson, and my CFI said that I had the best landing that he’s seen from me so far. Easy to follow. Thanks!
@Anthonyoutsidethebox
@Anthonyoutsidethebox 8 ай бұрын
What if i'm drifting right of center line or yawing to the right after leveling off in ground effect and pulling back on the yoke? landed on 19L and wind was 220 at 8kts
@andrewmaclean9810
@andrewmaclean9810 18 күн бұрын
Im about 13 hours in (though its been EXTREMELY spread out due to weather), and I'm struggling with landings so bad. Even with calm winds I feel like I'm super wobbly in my approach, swerving left and right while trynna stay coordinated and constantly overcorrecting. Doesn't help that I've had to switch planes a ton and I've only had one lesson where we practiced slow flight, (which was in a different plane) I def think I need to practice it more bc my terrible approaches make a clean landing near impossible. Is it normal to be struggling this bad 15 hrs in? I feel like most people get it down pretty fast but it's my 2nd day of doing nothing but pattern work and my landings are not only not smooth but some of them have been legit dangerous. Idk how I'm ever gonna get this down haha
@alphaprince342
@alphaprince342 Ай бұрын
Now the classic CFI “Right Rudder” meme makes sense to me
@thatguy7085
@thatguy7085 Жыл бұрын
Airplanes have boat rudders?
@joerasmussen4029
@joerasmussen4029 Жыл бұрын
It strikes me that you end up on average using more right rudder than left rudder during a complete flight. Am I right?
@hugus3009
@hugus3009 6 ай бұрын
I don't know if this happens in real life but when I play msfs 2020 and i'm going to land i can't use rudder to align properly cuz the plane destabilizes like crazy, and I don't do it very hard either, I hope it's just a simulator bug
@hugus3009
@hugus3009 6 ай бұрын
@@v1rotation yes, but I think it also happens with small planes
@lucascc98
@lucascc98 Жыл бұрын
My instructor says that in crosswind you use aileron into wind and opposite rudder why doesn't he say thos
@frankmuller73
@frankmuller73 Жыл бұрын
money spinner for these guys, they want you to keep you on the payroll
@jongeduard
@jongeduard Жыл бұрын
Yep, that's gyroscopic precession, which has it's effect when steering a single engine aircraft. With double engine aircraft when both engines spin opposite both cancel each other out.
@lovedonny4118
@lovedonny4118 Жыл бұрын
The sim I use for training is super sensitive 😰😰😰😰
@brandonlopez4011
@brandonlopez4011 Жыл бұрын
Just curious what sim are you using?
@pramodmathur2055
@pramodmathur2055 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried to adjust the sensitivity of controls?
@nice2care
@nice2care Жыл бұрын
2:16 Why applying back pressure on the yoke cause a left yaw? It should be a right yaw due to gyroscopic precision. Am I missing something here?
@Tablet-gd4nb
@Tablet-gd4nb Жыл бұрын
I keep asking the sme question but I still couldn’t find an answer. I thought the yaw would be to right on idle power. The left yaw happens during full power. Anyone kniw the answer ?
@killerbeast2550
@killerbeast2550 2 ай бұрын
Same for me, because even when im flying on msfs I always get yawed to right on my round out. It would make way more sense for it to go to the right.
@MrMarkguth
@MrMarkguth Жыл бұрын
Idk, I just tell Myself straight with rudder and Aileron into wind, and it just happens
@theforce6198
@theforce6198 4 ай бұрын
After 1000++ hour of actual flying, I still can't coordinate my turn in msfs or in actual airplane. I still can't control pitch during flare, i usually over or under pitch. Something really wrong with me. Quest I have to say good bye to flying and I can't afford further training.
@anthonycyr9657
@anthonycyr9657 Жыл бұрын
The rudder pedals are there for a reason, i fly a taildragger so i know..
@charlesbrewer6552
@charlesbrewer6552 Жыл бұрын
So true. i learned on Cessnas and Pipers. When I got my tailwheel endorsment I LEARNED what a rudder is there for! It improved my gerneral flying no end. These days cross winds are dead simple!
@ellonysman
@ellonysman Жыл бұрын
Because my sim isn't perfect
@devansh8846
@devansh8846 Жыл бұрын
Exactly👍🏻🤣
@brandonlopez4011
@brandonlopez4011 Жыл бұрын
Just curious what sim do you use?
@Jacktherookie_
@Jacktherookie_ 26 күн бұрын
Dammit get rid of cockpit cam from my plane 😂😂
@user-nr3jf1jd3t
@user-nr3jf1jd3t Жыл бұрын
Because I am not talented lol
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