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@frtzkng6 ай бұрын
2 is also the only number for which a+a = a·a = a^a = a↑↑a = a↑↑↑a and so on, no matter how many times you iterate this process. The result is always 4.
@TaranVaranYT6 ай бұрын
so if a = b = 2, then for any n greater than 0, the hyperoperation associated with n in the form a (whatever hyperoperation you are using) b will always compute to be 2? ok
@blackovich6 ай бұрын
@@TaranVaranYT yes.
@rsi40546 ай бұрын
you mean this right? : 10 ^ { 10 ^ { 10 } } =10^100 and the guy says :small 10 with the 10
@user-hi8jv6cw8n6 ай бұрын
you see, I thought this as well at 1st, but then realized that 10^10 isn't 100, but 10,000,000,000 @@rsi4054
@rsi40546 ай бұрын
@@user-hi8jv6cw8n get thx
@matthewstoicism1485 Жыл бұрын
16 . . . I see why you have chosen a base of two.
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Things get huge really fast here.
@ChraO_o7 ай бұрын
³2 is 2⁸ or 256
@ChraO_o7 ай бұрын
@@tonytinza what the hell did my brain do, did it just really said, yeah 2² is 8
@Zeoncxtoy7 ай бұрын
@@ChraO_o the concept i understood is that it is repeated exponents. for instance, we know exponent is repeated multiplication, so by looking into the consept of tetration, it can be seen that it's vasically repeated exponent
@ChraO_o7 ай бұрын
@@Zeoncxtoy there are multiple types of this as to try and reach higher numbers, but they're just numbers.
@QUBIQUBED6 ай бұрын
1.Multiplication is repeated addition 2.Exponentiation is repeated multiplication 3.Therefore, exponentiation is the process of repeatedly repeating addition 4.Tetration is the repetition of exponentiation, therefore... *Tetration is the repetition of the process of repeatedly repeating addition*
@anirchakraborty49535 ай бұрын
Now I wonder what the process of repeated tetration will be called..
@0xonomy5 ай бұрын
@@anirchakraborty4953 repeated repetition of the process of repeatedly repeating addition? i dont really know man
@MugsyBogues5 ай бұрын
@@anirchakraborty4953its pentation
@parthpatel96025 ай бұрын
@@0xonomythanks for making it easy man.
@TheNaz_O5-155 ай бұрын
@@anirchakraborty4953I think it's called pentation, someone in the comments said it.
@E06324 күн бұрын
You are still liking the comments after over a year, wow! I've found it 16 as well. I hope everyone could get a teacher like you, you seem to do your work fabulous! :)
@PrimeNewtons24 күн бұрын
I hope so too!
@Nomommiesway.11 күн бұрын
For some reason, I find it woerd that you can write 10 billion, but you can't write 10 billion zeros
@anakinmeh9287 күн бұрын
@@Nomommiesway. bro you have to be kidding right!?
@user-dx8ol9bm1k7 күн бұрын
16
@o_o8884 күн бұрын
@@Nomommiesway.10 billion the word is 9 letters the number has 10 zeros We are talking about billions of zeros
@justine.3416Ай бұрын
now imagine ³(³2)
@MileRancid21 күн бұрын
Parenthesis first, so 2 multiplied by itself 4 times = 16, so then 16 multiplied by (16 multiplied by itself by 16) so 16x16x16.. 16 times which = 1.8446744e+19 (so big my calculator can’t handle it). 16 *MULTIPLIED BY ITSELF THIS NUMBER OF TIMES* 1.8446744e+19
@MileRancid21 күн бұрын
The result on my calculator is infinity, not even joking
@MileRancid21 күн бұрын
Now imagine 1.8446744e+19 factorial
@justine.341620 күн бұрын
@@MileRancid that's actually insane. tetration is scary
@MileRancid18 күн бұрын
@@justine.3416 wait till you find out about pentation
@pranavvishwekar25095 ай бұрын
It's 16...... The last dialogue: "Never stop learning... One who stops learning, stops living..." Touched my heart.❤
@SatyamGupta-hk2gg5 ай бұрын
The one who stops learning, starts dying
@WeeMasterEmerald5 ай бұрын
@@SatyamGupta-hk2gg are dead*
@RedSkeletone5 ай бұрын
that's what I thought
@mr.mystery93385 ай бұрын
How is it 16? The way I see it is 2^2^2=2x2x2=8
@fredericlaviolette50415 ай бұрын
@@mr.mystery9338 Look at it this way : 2^(2^2) = 2^4 = 2x2x2x2 = 16
@GnrMilligan7 ай бұрын
Not only do I respect your intelligence and knowledge. But I am so impressed with your ability to write so neatly on a chalk board!
@PrimeNewtons7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@pradyothkumarb83307 ай бұрын
Also that board is super clean😅. Doesn't look like it's used everyday
@neevhingrajia38227 ай бұрын
@@pradyothkumarb8330you can clearly see that someone cleaned it just before the video was shot
@Everyoneneedsafriend7 ай бұрын
@neevhingrajia3822 i believe it was a joke
@icantcook99987 ай бұрын
Bloody teachers pet you're not supposed to get a heart for bum kissing
@anointedone1995Күн бұрын
Your excitement is contagious. May no one ever take your joy away from you. God bless.
@PrimeNewtonsКүн бұрын
Amen
@Longest-Word-In-EnglishАй бұрын
Tetration is a mathematical operation that involves repeatedly raising a number to the power of itself. This operation is an extension of exponentiation, which involves raising a number to a specified power. In tetration, the number is raised to the power of itself multiple times in a tower-like structure. Tetration can result in very large numbers, making it a fascinating concept in mathematics. Mathematicians use tetration to explore complex patterns and relationships within numbers.
@xkyoshi118 күн бұрын
Brought to you by ChatGPT.
@NoNameX_X07 ай бұрын
math just like any class always becomes a lot more fun when your teacher is enthusiastic to teach you the subject.
@Jigolopuff7 ай бұрын
i think the problem is that teachers dont bring in real world uses for the math being taught.
@satswak7 ай бұрын
and also they do not have the feel to teach
@fenidiv43257 ай бұрын
@@Jigolopuffatleast elementary maths is used in the real world
@Alwaysright422507 ай бұрын
@@JigolopuffI think you are missing one crucial point. Teaching advanced math to students not only makes them able to solve the problem they undoubtedly won't coincide irl, it will also increase the capability of advanced thinking. This can also be seen on streets, when you see a collage graduate and a high school drop off, also if you are somewhat educated, chances are, you can easily feel the difference. From their language to behavior and ways of thinking. I'm not saying math is for everyone, tho people should find their own gift and study. Btw nice nickname
@jaimelannister17977 ай бұрын
@@Jigolopuffcause most the time it doesn’t have real world use
@AdonizedeckAckahBlayMiezahАй бұрын
16 is the answer. I like how you put passion in what you do; meaning you like what you're doing.
@smoumitajana3522Ай бұрын
Thank you so much ! I was kinda exhausted learning the old things.... this new thing kinda lifted up my spirits !! Hope you'll continue presenting these new concepts !! 😃
@kwahlman7 ай бұрын
16. This is because "2 tetrated to 3" means we need 2 "floors" of exponents. The "ground floor" is also part of the 3, this is why we only have 2 floors above ground level and not 3. Like this: 2^(2^2) = 2^(4) = 16. If it was 2 tetrated to 4 it would be: 2^(2^(2^2)) = 2^(2^(4)) = 2^(16) = 65536. It quickly gets very big.
@jirisebesta14977 ай бұрын
Mother fucker dont tell me this is not written by chatGPT, this is very easy to do on your own
@nix_7 ай бұрын
I got the same answer!
@McSmurfy7 ай бұрын
Damn the 2 tetrated to 4 got me messed up, but think I get it now.
@SeeltheProgrammer7 ай бұрын
I understand it now, thanks for the explanation!
@voltznake92487 ай бұрын
wouldnt the exponents simply multiply with eachother? 2^2^2^2 (or 2 tetrated to 4) would be 2^(2*2*2)=256 right?
@wendigo7021Ай бұрын
never in my life thought that i would be watching a video about maths that will not be in my exam
@bwkanimations735224 күн бұрын
bro can i retweet
@wendigo702124 күн бұрын
@@bwkanimations7352 sure why not
@BickBull19 күн бұрын
Me neither mate, i never taught I'd take math as entertaining matter in my life.
@Batmann_17 күн бұрын
Wtf do people think "maths" stands for or is an abbreviation of? Math is short for mathematics. So, "maths" is mathematicses?
@sabretoothc259117 күн бұрын
Maths is the most boring subject for me and yet I'm still watching this
@champgameplay4831Күн бұрын
Nah i watched your eigenvalue video for my calc 3 class and found this gem, ngl you might be one of the few passionate teachers on youtube, u genuinely have fun with maths and that's i think is rare nowadays, hats off to you gentlemen.
@kingsix200010 күн бұрын
I have studied math at uni for 5 years and never come across the definition this. As you said it is probably because it is a bit useless (as ³10 is basically infinity). Very interesting and a nugget of knowledge. Thanks!
@paulyvii7 ай бұрын
Never thought I'd enjoy a math lesson. Thank you sir
@JohnFekoloid7 ай бұрын
But on exam day, he will bring out 0.8 ^ 25.37
@Gadottinho7 ай бұрын
Bruh, math classes are the best
@David280GG7 ай бұрын
@@JohnFekoloid😭
@aprilbrandon34417 ай бұрын
Noice
@mrkoyunreis7 ай бұрын
"Look what the schools need to do just to mimic a fraction of my power!"
@gongometube7 ай бұрын
There is nothing greater than an enthusiastic professor who can communicate the topic exceptionally.
@appsenence92447 ай бұрын
exceptionally? Don't you mean, expontentially?
@peterproductions50157 ай бұрын
@@appsenence9244Smart fella, this one.
@Quvexe7 ай бұрын
@@appsenence9244Haha
@ethaniscool3157 ай бұрын
nice@@appsenence9244
@scottwatts38796 ай бұрын
And I'm still looking for him.
@huz6533 күн бұрын
The answer is 16 because 2 to the power of 2 to the power of 2, so you have 3 twos which is why it is called the 3rd titration of 2, it’s kinda like how powered numbers work but it is bigger, turn the multiplications into powers.
@Bzons20 күн бұрын
Found this in my recommendation, learned something new, was not disappointed. Good work.
@deltakyy38947 ай бұрын
“dont stop learning, because those who stopped learning, stopped living.” as a person who nerds out when talking about math, that hit hard
@TheOneOtaku7 ай бұрын
I’m a science nerd but Ig im good in math
@TheDankian14217 ай бұрын
EXACTLY.
@TheDankian14217 ай бұрын
@@TheOneOtaku What? Most Of Science IS Caused By Math, A BUNCH Of Math.
@louiesatterwhite38857 ай бұрын
@@TheDankian1421when you get down to it, chemistry, biology, physics, and math are all interconnected on a fundamental level
@neth78267 ай бұрын
Bruce Lee also said that! EDIT: Shoot, what he actually said was "An intelligent mind is one which is constantly learning, never concluding - styles and patterns have come to conclusion, therefore they [have] ceased to be intelligent." Probably still makes sense in this context..
@welcometochiles61567 ай бұрын
During the 10^3 bit, it occured to me that in my math experience, I lost the meaning of some of these values. 100 to 1000 is huge, but I really do forget the scale of numbers sometimes.
@randomguyontheinternet50307 ай бұрын
I guess it always depends on what the numbers mean. 100 atoms vs 1000 atoms is next to nothing. 100 houses vs 1000 houses is very big. 100 planets vs 1000 planets is unfathomably large.
@sk8pkl7 ай бұрын
Well then think about the 1-2-4-8-16-32.... series. Do you know that you only need to add them together in order to get every other number in between? And you never need to repeat 1 of them.... that's why/how computers exist/work basically. Think about how many numbers there are between 2-4 and 128-256... and so on 😮. It works INFINITELY. It means the x2 series gives birth to all numbers as well as the 1+1 series does. Its just disturbing how perfect and efficient it is to derive all numbers from the 1x2... series...(binary code...bits...bytes...and so on). The universe is just amazing when you think about it sometimes. Division and doubling is at the very core of each of its seemingly random processes... all of em even sound, light and matter... constants.. ect.
@Obi1Classic7 ай бұрын
Vsauce did an analysis on this. Our brains think logarithmically (e.g. 1, 10, 100, 1000, ...), not cumulatively (1, 2, 3, 4, ...). It allows us to think in scales and relativity of the massive sizes of galaxies to the invisibly small sizes of atoms.
@dekippiesip7 ай бұрын
@Obi1Classic yup we often underestimate our brains. We can easily think of planets and galaxies or atoms and electrons. We just need to discuss them in 'peer to peer' contexts of other objects that are just as large within an order of magnitude or so. What is HARD to imagine is not the size of our entire planet or even the distance to the closest star, but the ratio between the 2. That is going to surprise you, and it's hard to mentally model it. If you do you're probably needing a second map, that is another layer of abstraction.
@welcometochiles61567 ай бұрын
@@dekippiesip my brain is now bigger :D
@peyt234 күн бұрын
I got 16. Love the commitment you show to this video by the way! I just want to thank you for showing your teaching so well, and explaining in such a clear fashion as to why tetration is not taught, and for teaching me another fact. Thanks a lot man!
@GamersFanBase20027 күн бұрын
Thank you so much! for teaching us this lesson. It is really something new that maybe very few people actually know and use also.
@IRHrok7 ай бұрын
We’ve found it boys! a math lesson that I will actually never use in real life! Great concept and I loved your explanation
@PrimeNewtons7 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!!
@infernoninja51957 ай бұрын
i'm gonna use it to express the amount of people who did your mom
@mickenoss7 ай бұрын
I dunno, I'll be using this for my weekly shop soon I reckon. 😂
@Deathwindgames7 ай бұрын
@@mickenossa fellow dark matter purchaser?
@Kaka_Doctor_917 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m7yCfa91la6uk3k.htmlsi=fEII6tEEK-zbApDh 👈 At the end of this video you will see the "real life use" of tetration!!
@simplyy.aviation5 ай бұрын
Maths becomes interesting when it's taught by an enthusiastic teacher like you!!
@shiulai58046 күн бұрын
Thank you. You explain it very well. I have been working with numbers all my life. I am 82 now. I don’t expect to see something on KZfaq about arithmetics that I have not seen before. Thank you again.
@user-nl1pg1pf5iАй бұрын
Based on the well instructed lesson with hints that make you see, the answer cannot be missed. It can be said that raised value number is equal to the base number raised based operation twice, such that ^3 base 2 = (2^2)^2 = 16. So the example given, provided the key information to solve. Thus (10^10)^10 = 10^100. Prince Newton, you are amazing.
@PrimeNewtons7 ай бұрын
I hope this clarifies what I said. 10↑↑3 is written as 1 followed by 10 billion zeros. There is enough space in my house to print out the number with 10 billion zeros. What I meant to say in the video was that if I had to write down all the numbers from 1 to 10↑↑3, there would not be enough space in the known universe to write them all even if every atom is large enough to write on.
@lubomirkubasdQw4w9WgXcQ7 ай бұрын
i was about to ask about that. it would probably take about 1,000 years to write it, or 2,000 maybe.
@lubomirkubasdQw4w9WgXcQ7 ай бұрын
no, more like 700 years i think
@magentamonster7 ай бұрын
10↑3 = 1000. As a single arrow is exponentiation. 10↑↑3 is 1 followed by 10 billion zeros.
@davidturizo28477 ай бұрын
Really? It maked sense to me in the video now I’m confused
@OJB427 ай бұрын
Yeah, I thought that was an error, but just a misinterpretation.
@YaBoiATEG6 ай бұрын
16 i think, you taught this better in 6 mins than my math teacher would in an hour, also explained how the powered numbers work too! You've gained my respect, and a new sub
@feiyu88176 ай бұрын
Bruh. This should be a 20 second video. If you need an hour to learn this, it’s not you’re teacher bud.
@pannumon6 ай бұрын
@@feiyu8817 How long did it take for you to learn multiplication, exponents, logarithm, basic trigonometry, derivation, integration and the rest of the really simple things? 30minutes, maybe 45? How many hours did you study these things in school? Knowing what something means is different than understanding it and being able to use the knowledge.
@petelee24776 ай бұрын
@@pannumonThe only reason early math difficult is because it involves mostly memorization but once you've learned the fundamentals then math becomes really easy. The majority of college and highschool math was essentially plug numbers into a formula and then hit enter on the calculator.
@petelee24776 ай бұрын
Really 3 minutes because the first half of the video was explaining exponents which can be skipped if you already know what they are.
@maggyfrog6 ай бұрын
the difference between ³2 and ⁴2 is comical 😹
@ericgrimard4608Ай бұрын
Good work sir. More like you would not be any competition and your contribution is precious. All my respect, may God bless you, sir, and your precious two bits in. I say Thanks for all those who won't.
@WebStacks500Ай бұрын
Amazing Video! They don't teach this in school but I had heard of it before, thanks for explaining how it works. "Don't stop learning, those who stop learning have stopped living" Such a moving thought! 🤩
@flederflick7 ай бұрын
I was expecting a huge number again, but I think it's 16. According to your explanation it would be written as 2 to the power of 2 to the power of 2. The last two become 4 and that makes 2 to the power of 4 which is 16. Never knew about tetration. Never to old to learn. Thanks
@louisrobitaille58107 ай бұрын
Now have fun learning about pentation, hexation, and so on until you stumble upon Graham's number 😂.
@Wilson-AM7 ай бұрын
22 mins ago!
@howtobasic2.0317 ай бұрын
@@louisrobitaille5810 brudda get to raydons number
@bzibubabbzibubab4207 ай бұрын
my granpa is graham @@louisrobitaille5810
@Carl_with_a_k_7 ай бұрын
my personal favourite is penetration @@louisrobitaille5810
@scotty31147 ай бұрын
I believe in trying to learn something new each day (and not triva). I am 79 and have never seen this before. If I understand what's going on, then the answer should be 16. Although, I almost convinced myself on 256, but decided I was getting carried away by all the numbers😅. Thank you for the lesson and the knowledge.
@hugh.g.rection59067 ай бұрын
i did the same thing and came up with the same answers as you. realised i was wrong, thought properly and reached 16. great minds think alike lol
@scotty31147 ай бұрын
@@hugh.g.rection5906 Yes, we do! 😁🤣
@richroll98946 күн бұрын
As a social studies teacher (who myself has a math disorder and alllllways struggled with it greatly) I appreciate your instruction! Being autistic, I got the NON math-genius variety, and instead got the “I make 3 right turns instead of one left turn and don’t realize there was an easier way until 4 weeks later” type, so math based subjects always trip me up, but your manner of explaining and visualization is fantastic, your students are very lucky!
@hiimsaulcaveman6 күн бұрын
That was very interesting to know, added with your calming voice!
@futotheone5 ай бұрын
The tetration of 3, denoted as 2↑↑3, is equal to 2^(2^2), which is 2 raised to the power of 2 raised to the power of 2. So, 2 to the tetration of 3 is 16 (2^(2^2) = 2^4 = 16).
@Atmatan_Kabbaher5 ай бұрын
I'm so confused by the notation more than anything. Abstract infinities make intuitive sense to me. The way you humans describe them makes my organs hurt.
@El.Primo05 ай бұрын
what@@Atmatan_Kabbaher
@satgurs5 ай бұрын
@@Atmatan_Kabbaher "The way you humans describe them makes my organs hurt." bro's not a human
@sefutho5 ай бұрын
Thank you SIR for your explanation. I feel like a genius now 🙏🏾
@jasminerochas-oq8jw5 ай бұрын
This is a tetration of 2, not of 3.
@Arel_Kursat4 ай бұрын
The enthusiasm you put into this video just makes it 10 times easier and better to learn. Thank you kind sir!
@UnohanaMash4 ай бұрын
10 times? Or 10 times 10 times 10 times 10 times…
@MoonDark-mq8ex3 ай бұрын
@@UnohanaMash😂
@MantoHazra3 ай бұрын
@@UnohanaMashHAHA
@loganeliott65903 ай бұрын
FR
@Davidsavage8008Күн бұрын
Awesome, it makes calculating our debt so much easier. Thank you.
@darknessispower3296Күн бұрын
This video suddenly recommended to me.. I am glad that i got it.. and the answer is 16.. i was confused first but then i understood.. Thanks for this!✨
@ryanman00837 ай бұрын
You can also evaluate non integer hyper powers like 2^^π NOTE: I use HLog as notation for Hyper Logarithm Another common notation is slog for Super Logarithm Hyper Logarithm (one inverse of Tetration) is repeated Logarithm by definition. Let T=The total number of Logs til the answer ≤ 1 r = the remainder of the last log HLog a(b) = x --> a^^x = b by definition of hyper logarithms x=(T-1)+r By definition of Tetration, a^^x = a^(a^^x-1)… Taking HLoga(z) Given z is not an integer hyper power of a Let HLoga(z) = b+x Given 0 ≤ x ≤ 1 and b=Z z = a^^(b+x) = a^a^^(b-1+x) = a^a^...(b copies)...^a^^x By definition of tetration z = a^a^...(b copies)...^a^x By definition of Hyper Log (Repeated Logarithm) They both equal z thus they equal eachother a^a^...(b copies)...^a^x = a^a^...(b copies)...^a^^x The entire tower cancels via Loga() on both sides, leaving a^x = a^^x Given 0 ≤ x ≤ 1 Therefore a^^x = a^x Given 0 ≤ x ≤ 1 is true by definition. We can solve 2^^π 2^^π = 2^2^^(π-1) = 2^2^2^^(π-2) = 2^2^2^2^^(π-3) 2^^π = 2^2^2^2^(π-3) ≈ 21.596356101 2^2^2^2^^(π-3) = 2^2^2^2^(π-3) ≈ 21.596356101 (Notice you can Log2 both sides and be left with 2^^(π-3) = 2^(π-3). ) We can also check this Log2(21.596356101) ≈ 4.4327160055 --> 1st Log Log2(4.4327160055) ≈ 2.1481909351 --> 2nd Log Log2(2.1481909351) ≈ 1.1031222284 --> 3rd Log Log2(1.1031222284) ≈ 0.1415926536 --> 4th Log, answer ≤ 1 --> r For 2^^x = 21.596356101 x=(T-1)+r, 4 total Logs x=(4-1)+r = 3+r = 3+0.1415926536 = 3.1415926536 ≈ π (obviously. with irrationals there will be possible rounding errors) Thus 2^^π ≈ 21.596356101 is indeed true
@thomasminh82447 ай бұрын
im still in highschool, your magic words are scaring me
@TheDiamondPro447 ай бұрын
I ain't readin allat (I read it and have no idea what you're saying magic man)
@VictorianSnailGod7 ай бұрын
@@thomasminh8244I graduated literally last year and I’m getting scared by these magic words
@the_Mousee7 ай бұрын
@@thomasminh8244relatable, I think I just got my mind melted
@mission28587 ай бұрын
Time* to go even further ahead in my maths education and work out what the fuck this means.
@bunnybeetle13047 ай бұрын
I wish I had a teacher like you. It is so evident that you love what you are teaching us here.
@bunnybeetle13047 ай бұрын
oh cool i got it right!
@ACuriousChild7 ай бұрын
Which is what GOD ALMIGHTY is all about ... inexhaustible knowledge about HIS CREATION ... and it never stops no matter how much HE has taught any of them!
@Respect_truth_tellers6 ай бұрын
@@ACuriousChild huh 😶🌫?
@UpsideLearnАй бұрын
Such a cool concept! Thank you for sharing.
@JacobRVH4 күн бұрын
16 because ³2 is like writing 2^2^2^2, where the base is used as an exponent, and the 3 in front indicates how many times the exponent is repeated. ³2 written in exponent form would be 2⁴
@draco23337 ай бұрын
16. 2 is the smallest base of complete numbers to not completely overload our imagenation. Very nice! Really like your video🙏 + very nice code in the end❤
@dyanosis6 ай бұрын
Incorrect, 1 would be the smallest base to not overload us. 1 raised to the 1 raised to the 1 is still 1. Wrecked.
@milanhaver39156 ай бұрын
no he's right. if you go past 2 (3 for example) it quickly becomes unimaginable but with 2 as the base it you still can.@@dyanosis
@astromache6 ай бұрын
@@milanhaver3915 no he's wrong if he said largest then he would be right
@Toast_Sandwich6 ай бұрын
@@astromacheand what of 0?
@astromache6 ай бұрын
@@Toast_Sandwich if 0 is the number in supertext would it not just be 1? however the other way around I have no idea.
@cmills149167 ай бұрын
I'm a math teacher, and this was fun to watch! Awesome, and good job making it fun!
@Hanible7 ай бұрын
Please help me figure out this 🙏 I'm having a seizure: Why is it that 10billion ^ 10 isn't equal the 10^10billion they should be equal because order doesn't matter when doing 10^10^10 right? And yet the former is 1 followed by 100 zeros and the latter is 1 followed by 10billion zeros..
@gammergames33227 ай бұрын
well first off, in 10^10^10 they are all the same number so thats why it doesn't matter. but also, when 10^10B has to multiply by 10, 10 billion times and when we are talking exponentials it gets out of control. 10B^10 is only multiplying by itself 10 times, which is just incomparable. The exponent matters way more than the number you start with, any feasible number to the 10B is gonna be light years bigger than any feasible number to the 10@@Hanible
@Henry.257 ай бұрын
@@HanibleI don't know if I understood your question correctly (English is not my first language) so I'm just going to talk about the issue of order. There is an order to carry out tetration. I don't know how to explain why, but you always start from top to bottom. (or right to left) Ex: ⁴3= 3^3^3^3 3^3^27 3^7,625, 597, 484, 987 = Big ass number
@shiva114567 ай бұрын
@@Hanible, they are not equal becos for 10 000,000,000^10 = 10^(10^2) based on law of indices, which is not equal to 10^(10^10). Think about it and you will get an ans. 🙂
@Hanible7 ай бұрын
@shiva11456 yeah I already know 10B^10=10^(10^2) that's why I said it's 1 followed by 100 zeros... And I noticed they weren't equal that's the whole point, my question is why aren't they equal? I thought order didn't matter when doing a^b^c... but if it matters why does it matter? 🤔
@dazrmorrison95587 күн бұрын
Tetration is a hyperoperation that involves iterated exponentiation. The notation \( ^n a \) denotes the \( n \)-times iterated exponentiation of \( a \). For example, \( ^3 2 \) means 2 raised to the power of 2, raised to the power of 2. For \( ^3 2 \), this can be calculated as: \[ ^3 2 = 2^{2^2} \] First, solve the innermost exponentiation: \[ 2^2 = 4 \] Then, use this result as the exponent for the base 2: \[ 2^4 = 2 \times 2 \times 2 \times 2 = 16 \] Therefore, \( ^3 2 = 16 \).
@brother.7537 сағат бұрын
It took me a long time to justify that the answer is 16, for about 10 minutes, and I finally figured out why, really good job sir, now I have to get back to my studies, the mathematics I need to use so that I can pass the exams, wish me luck ❤
@Scarfy101Ай бұрын
this is the first time i've stuck around for a six minute video of a 10 second explanation, his demeanor and voice are just that likable.
@first-namelast-name7 ай бұрын
A generalisation of tetration is Knut's up-arrow notation. It's basically the same concept with the notation 2↑3 for 2³, 2↑↑3 for ³2, but you don't stop there and go with how many arrows you want, for example, 2↑↑↑3 is 2↑↑2↑↑2 which is 2↑↑2↑2=2↑↑4=2↑2↑2↑2=2↑16=2¹⁶=65'536. I really recommend searching about this, especially about Graham's number, which is the biggest number used in a mathematical proof(Edit: apparently not anymore? Couldn't find any proofs, tho. Any information could help Edit in the edit:G64(Graham's number) is still the biggest in a demonstration after further researches). Next to this number, ³10 doesn't seem that big. It looks horrifically tiny, as a matter of fact. Edit: I forgot to say that these operations are, as exponentiation, right-associative. This means that you calculate them from right to left just like you calculate exponentiation from top to bottom.
@TekExplorer7 ай бұрын
Not sure where you got "up arrow" from - the character you mean is actually on your keyboard: "^"
7 ай бұрын
@@TekExplorernope, that particular notation uses up arrows, as dictated by the name..
@l3dcobra1207 ай бұрын
@ He's clearly talking about the lesser-known Knuth's Caret Notation.
@first-namelast-name7 ай бұрын
@@TekExplorerthe caret is only used as a replacement for up arrows when they are not available on the keyboard. On paper or when you have access to them you will tend to use the complete arrow. If you want to verify this information, I found it on Wikipedia on the "Knuth's up-arrows notation" page in the "notation" category
@Iammankey7 ай бұрын
Well then what's 3↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑3?
@shanegriffin663714 күн бұрын
I feel so productive watching educational videos.
@shubassingh678325 күн бұрын
This is the first video of your chanel which i have seen. That shows that this channel is for knowledge.
@DevonBering7 ай бұрын
Anyone wanna say what ³3 is? HINT: It is more than the amount of money that Elon Musk has
@chimyshark7 ай бұрын
1.55 billion
@noobiesensei62817 ай бұрын
7,62 trillions. This shit is ridiculous.
@CatNolara7 ай бұрын
actually not that much, only 19,683
@nekro19777 ай бұрын
@@CatNolaraNo. You did 3^(3*3) which is not how tetration works. In tetration the outermost exponent is in the innermost brack so 3 tetrated to three 3^(3^3) or 3^27 which is ~7.6 trillion
@CatNolara7 ай бұрын
@@nekro1977 oh, I see. I thought it wouldn't matter, but you're right, it does matter (unlike the multiplication in normal quadration)
@jalenanderson97066 ай бұрын
I liked when you said "those who have stopped learning are those who have stopped living." It reminded me of my senior quote: "to live is to learn, to learn is to grow, to grow is to live."
@jballenger92405 ай бұрын
And…”Knowledge breeds enthusiasm!” When students say a subject is boring, I tell them it is because they don’t know enough about the subject.
@sonorabbyy19 күн бұрын
OoOOooO my cerebral cortex is tingling!!! I love math, and I favored it more so when I had a patient and well spoken math teacher. You’re awesome 🥲
@Jelly27Fish6 күн бұрын
So 2 with the tetration of 3 is 16 2 with the tetration of 4 is 256 3 with the tetration of 2 is 27 3 with the tetration of 3 is 81 And 10 with the tetration of 3 is a Googol with the exponent of 10. Ngl, I WISH I could've learned this in school! This is just as fun as factorials! :D
@SPY-ce8qf7 ай бұрын
“Those who stop learning, stop living” great quote and great conclusion
@fatnerd99856 ай бұрын
Just graduated year 12 with a growing hatred for learning maths due to the brute forced and completely confusing maths curriculum. Watching this video was genuinely interesting, your passionate and excited explanation of tetration that i was pretty sure i would be completely lost on and click off the video, somehow kept my attention and got me really curious to see this through regardless if i understood or not. Just wanted to take a moment to appreciate this video and the interest it somehow sparked within me for maths, even a slight bit. Also that handwriting is pristine. Keep up the good work.
@pixels303at-odysee96 ай бұрын
Try derivatives and Laplace Transforms. Even Z transforms are useful when dealing with sample rates from a computer and systems exhibiting weight, velocity and hydraulic dampening. I love math, but yes, it is very difficult to understand.
@scottbenzing13615 ай бұрын
Do they still teach common core? If so, that's a big part of it and it's designed to hamper people in their learning.
@mrfoobz57095 ай бұрын
@@scottbenzing1361last I heard yeah common core is still a thing unfortunately. Standardized learning to create standardized little workers to fill all the low level vacancies and work 80 hour work weeks for 5 figures a year
@richr62493 ай бұрын
Do you people still exist?@@scottbenzing1361
@gplipp6489Ай бұрын
I enjoyed the setup of comparing the infinitesimally large number to the test question. Nice trick.
@taboopancake28Ай бұрын
A staircase of exponentiation... A tool so powerful we don't have many practical applications for it in our universe! Amazing thank you for sharing!
@bryceverleur28847 ай бұрын
I wish teachers did this more often, getting students to figure out how concepts work by providing just the steps grants better understanding
@fullsendmountainbiker58447 ай бұрын
Trust me it doesn’t work when teaching a class😂 it’s fine for a KZfaq video, but when teaching a curriculum it is flawed. I’m currently studying maths, further maths and physics, and one teacher we have for further mathematics has this approach, and he ends up confusing everyone! Like I said, no problem here, as this is just some fun maths, not too complicated but it doesn’t work at a higher level
@chrish73367 ай бұрын
@@fullsendmountainbiker5844 Yes it does, but at higher levels there is already an expectation of prior knowledge, so some of this can be skipped. Also at higher levels you need to go and bring things back to simple, otherwise you have idiots with so called higher education trying to use Algebraic calculations and rules in basic math using PEMDAS and getting the wrong answer. IE: Confusion, why? because the basics of why are not taught only how and shortcuts. It has to be taught to use the level of math required/needed for the specific situation. Boolean Algebra doesn't apply to everything, but there is a place for it.
@fullsendmountainbiker58447 ай бұрын
@@chrish7336 yes there is obviously an expectation of prior knowledge, but you can’t assume everyone in a class can just work a challenging mathematical concept out themselves. If I could do that I’d be a genius, and I’d have no need for any education. Don’t get me wrong this kind of teaching works for some topics, but not for others
@mickaelcoulon56047 ай бұрын
really happy to find someone actually enthousiatist about teaching math, i never knew i needed you in my life
@jimmysnyder17 күн бұрын
2^2^2 is not ambiguous, but 2^2^2^2 is. Use parentheses to differentiate between (2^2)^2)^2) = 256 and 2^(2^(2^2)) = 65536. The latter is what the lecture is about.
@crowina_nutshell6 күн бұрын
In short, tetration is just the base to the power of itself the value of the number in the "exponent". For example, if you do base 4 and the tetration exponent 3 you get 4 to the power of 4 to the power of 4 (4^4^4) which is 4x4x4x4x4x4x4x4x4x4x4x4 which gives you 4,294,967,296 as opposed to 4^3 which gives you 64.
@daveg659Ай бұрын
My son insisted we leave a comment. He says the answer is 16! He’s got his mind wrapped up in exponentiation and tetration right now. He’s 9
@PrimeNewtonsАй бұрын
He's correct. That's impressive 😊
@physicist1918 күн бұрын
Mofos on KZfaq lying
@H.A.Kingdom6 күн бұрын
@@physicist191 Jelly boy
@physicist1915 күн бұрын
@@H.A.Kingdom you telling me a 9 year old boy, the same 9 year olds that watch skibidi toilet and tiktok and Coco melon, learn about tetration?
@Yurilikesm3l0ns5 күн бұрын
that's what you probably watched when you were 9 🤷♀️ not every kid watches cartoon's, rhymes, and etc in their childhood. Some watch these kinds of videos for fun.@@physicist191
@nickaos66267 ай бұрын
bro explained 20 second thing in 7 minutes, what a legend.
@SomeCowguy6 ай бұрын
This is my problem with the school system and 99% of youtube tutorials
@PrimeNewtons6 ай бұрын
That's why I left the system too.
@QUBIQUBED6 ай бұрын
@@PrimeNewtons In "simple" and "not confusing" terms Tetraition is the repetition of the repetition of repeatedly adding a number *or* the repetition of the process of repeatedly repeating the process of addition
@NilsMueller6 ай бұрын
I don't have 7 minutes to spare, please explain it in 20 seconds
@SomeCowguy6 ай бұрын
@@NilsMueller tetration = bigger numbers scaled up by its scaler
@PERURENJ11 күн бұрын
Thanks for teaching us a new concept and for your awesome teaching performance.
@anidhussain26076 күн бұрын
Great point. Don't stop learning. Those who stop learning have stop living.
@nowherenearby94617 ай бұрын
When I was in seventh or eighth grade I had already developed a love and admiration for math, one day I was reflecting about it and asked my teacher: "so there's addition, then multiplication, then exponentiation. is there anything that comes after exponentiation?". To which he replied with a simple and final "no. nothing beyond it.". Well I feel really good now to know I was right at that time and that tetration exists.
@rjtimmerman28617 ай бұрын
Well if you just define it it "exists"...
@nowherenearby94617 ай бұрын
@@rjtimmerman2861 that's technically right. but who was I to claim having invented anything in math
@rjtimmerman28617 ай бұрын
@@nowherenearby9461 the same as all inventors, a person with an idea :)
@trafficbyintent7 ай бұрын
Why isn't this hearted ❤
@SAJe_537 ай бұрын
So now figure out what's after tetrarion.
@juniocarvalho98833 ай бұрын
This video was REALLY AMAZING I’m Brazilian so I didn’t understand much, but as mathematics is a universal language it was easy to follow. Your happiness in teaching is contagious, thank you.
@rafaesisimo_h27 күн бұрын
basicamente, oq ele ta chamando de "tetration" é vc pegar um número e elevar ele ao mesmo número, que tbm tá elevado a esse número (repetindo isso o número de vezes do "expoente") Exemplo: ³2 = 2²^² = 2⁴ = 16
@romabaz22 күн бұрын
Such simple concept with such loooong explanation.
@aishwarya2016Ай бұрын
This makes me love maths more and more, truly amazing! ❤😊
@jerichojoe3077 ай бұрын
I Love your Way of teaching. And the smile that is on your face showing how excited you are about The Wonder of numbers. If only more teachers taught this way to get students excited about numbers too, it would be amazing. If you are not or were not a school teacher or college professor, you missed your calling.
@anonym-hub7 ай бұрын
"If only more teachers ..." being excited is not reproducable very often, meaning a teacher may even only be excited the first time teaching, solution: capture the video and show it to next year's students.
@anonym-hub7 ай бұрын
I would love watching years old video that contains an excited teacher, instead of watching live attitude of most teachers.
@ACuriousChild7 ай бұрын
GOD ALMIGHTY calls everyone where HE needs him/her most!
@johnshaw67027 ай бұрын
@@anonym-hubI went to a new school were I was assigned to a math teacher who let an audio tape and overhead projector teach the class. That didn't work for me at all. When I transferred to another class it was great because the football coach (about 5'4") and the track coach (about 6'8") had combined their math classes and made it fun as well as educational. Just watching that mismatched pair working together was entertaining. 😂
@roshsurana6 ай бұрын
nah bruv he took 7 minutes for that shit. Its one thing trying to accommodating but assuming the general audience who watches is THIS dumb that they need 7 minutes for it?
@mrbenwong868 ай бұрын
You don't need 10^10billion, 10^100 is already more than number of atoms in the known universe.
@ThatOneProFloppaTheBest7 ай бұрын
i used my calculator it answered 1
@Perrigon7 ай бұрын
@ThatOneProFloppaTheBest you did something wrong then. The universe has 10^84 to 10^90 atoms.
@ThatOneProFloppaTheBest7 ай бұрын
@@Perrigon no bro, it said 1.00000000E+84
@ZenGodXGaming7 ай бұрын
What r u on
@hycubo7 ай бұрын
Actually you would need it to be 10^10^x where x is the exponent on 10^x with the number of atoms in the universe for it to be impossible to represent the number of zeros with one atom per zero
@anukhan11113 күн бұрын
Teaching such an interesting topic to us with such enthusiasm is fabulous 🤩
@asfasfasfasf12415 күн бұрын
you're a amazing teacher! love your energy! :)
@fluiditynz7 ай бұрын
That was fun. I've long thought that the fastest and most compact way to make big numbers was using a number like 9 to the power of 9 to the power of 9 to the power of 9 So Tetration is simply formalizing a syntax for it. In my example, 4(tetration)9 Or in computer syntax from one of the old languages I used, 9^9^9^9
@nichtrauchervor7 ай бұрын
And the number of your base can increase too, so 9(tetration)99 is unimanginably bigger than 9(tetration)9
@RebelKeithy7 ай бұрын
We can extend the concept even farther. Lets say º is tetration and lets say ~ is repeated tetration, then; 2º3 = 2^2^2 2~3 = 2º2º2 = 2º16 = 2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2^2 Which is uncomputably large I tried pluging it into wolrfram alpha and best it could do is say it is equal to 10^(10^(10^(10^(10^(10^(10^(10^(10^(10^(10^(10^19727.78040560677)))))))))))
@joseluiscuervolopez-mora18147 ай бұрын
Then search grahams number hahahah
@dylandillpickle5687 ай бұрын
I went down a bit of a rabbit hole and discovered it doesn't stop with tetration. Tetration is a part of these things called hyper operations and is also known as hyper-4. Apparently someone was insane enough to coin a term for hyper-infinity: Circulation
@Ascyt7 ай бұрын
What about the next step of tetration? Like having 2 and 2 be 2 tetrated two times Like 9 (super tetrated) 9 times would be 9 tetrated by 9 tetrated by 9 tetrated by 9 tetrated ... (9 times) lol
@subup41163 ай бұрын
Never in my life did I think that I would scroll on youtube and actually watch a video where I would hear something, I have never heard in my life. Tysm for sharing!! It was lowkey bussin
@TelPhi_3 ай бұрын
fr fr no cap!!!!
@MyOneFiftiethOfADollar3 ай бұрын
I would expect a person like yourself to hear something everyday that you have never heard in your life.
@subup41163 ай бұрын
@@MyOneFiftiethOfADollar And that's why you're single
@ganyu_literally2 ай бұрын
You ratioed him 🔥
@Overqualification7 күн бұрын
I split it up like this = 2^2 is 4, so i then added the remaining “2” exponent, onto the 4, which is 4^2. So 4^2, is 16. I can’t believe i actually learned a math concept from a KZfaq video this efficiently. Genuinely a wonderful teacher.
@a1productionllc6 күн бұрын
16, of course, since you marked that as correct. Factorials are another kind of number that I have found fascinating. They grow so fast, relating to the base. Have a good day!
@hezuka7057 ай бұрын
Nice handwriting
@NotEntirelyStupid7 ай бұрын
He really does
@mimicreeplayz24414 ай бұрын
This man is a legend… still liking comments to this day (Btw the answer is 16)
@raunak_chaudharyy22 күн бұрын
A beautiful concept explained in a beautiful way . ❤
@sharkdragongaming750814 күн бұрын
I found 16 because according to the logic, the exponent before the number means it’s how many times you rise the number by, for instance 3^3 would be 3 times 3 times 3and then 27 times 27 times 27 so you would get 19,683
@DavidChristopherCasey4 ай бұрын
I love the enthusiasm and simplicity of your explanations. Thank you.
@walksaselk407 ай бұрын
I haven't used math since they tried to teach me and yet here I am
@PrimeNewtons7 ай бұрын
Lol 😆
@Bloody_Raven_7Ай бұрын
Really loved this lesson, got to learn something new!
@saviodias380322 күн бұрын
Really nice to see you hearting our comments even though there are so many. Great explanation btw.
@PrimeNewtons22 күн бұрын
I try 😃
@Lohikaarme19847 ай бұрын
YT recommended me your channel out of the blue, and i'm so glad it did! i'm promoting TA (Tetration Awareness XD) whenever and wherever i can, tho i fully realise it's not very practical operation. But it's important in its own merit, just to remind us to keep our minds open and always expect something more out of the vastness of mathematics. Keep up the good work man! :)
@NaveedKakal7 ай бұрын
Is this a widely accepted notation or is there something spicy like a minority trying to push it into acceptance
@Lohikaarme19847 ай бұрын
@@NaveedKakal no, i dont think it is. More commonly approved is something called Knuth's up-arrow notation, it's being used to write operations of exponentiation and beyond. Standard exponentiation (let's say 2 to the power of 3) would be written as 2↑3 (it is kinda similar to the 2^3 - i'm not sure if the root of both is the same, but they do look suspiciously similar). Tetration, and any other higher iteration for that matter, would just be written with more arrows in a row. So 2 tetrated by 3 would be written as 2↑↑3. Pentation as 2↑↑↑3 , hexation as 2↑↑↑↑3 and so on. Tho for tetration itself i'm a huge fun of a notation presented in this video, i mean it's just more elegant and instantaneously resambles something related to exponentiation. There are other interesting unorthodox notations out there, like inverted sqrt sign for logarithm, try googling "A radical new look for logarithms". It's just brilliant. I've also come across proposals for trigonometric functions that, instead of traditional sin, cos, and tan, use a representation of a right triangle with only the two sides relevant to the respective operation. So, tan would be written as a horizontal and a vertical line meeting at the right angle, sin as a skewed and vertical line, and cos as a skewed and horizontal line. :)
@RedditStorys6907 ай бұрын
16, 2x2 = 4, 4 x 4 = 16
@FreeAmericanSpirit7 ай бұрын
Why is it not 2x2=4x2=8?
@RedditStorys6907 ай бұрын
that would be 2 to the 3rd power this is the third tetrate of 2@@FreeAmericanSpirit
@FreeAmericanSpirit7 ай бұрын
@@RedditStorys690 you need to explain it better in the vid. All you said was it is a billion for each time you multiple it. So that infers it should have been 8 billion... 2 x 2 is 4 4x 2 is eight that's using the 2 three times.. to get to 16 you have to have another 2. Why is there not a 4 in front of the 2?
@nunyabiz21177 ай бұрын
@@FreeAmericanSpirit because the 2*2 is 2^2. So the 4 is the exponent with base 2. 2^2^2= 2^(2*2)= 2^4= 2*2*2*2= 16
@abrahamben-dayan98437 ай бұрын
@@FreeAmericanSpirit Step 1: 2 to the 2nd power = 4. Step 2: 4 to the 2nd power = 16
@ivanthesmash464220 күн бұрын
Very nice video, and I like your saying "those who've stopped learning, have stopped living"
@LENN_space_sfs14 күн бұрын
Its 2^4 = 2×2×2×2 =16 I learned it in belgian college (to help calculate big numbers) but the notation was different , we used a special combination of exponents and accolades
@mush4ka5 ай бұрын
I didn't need to learn this, but I don't regret learning this.
@The_J4208 ай бұрын
5:56 I think you’re getting confused between the exponents. 10^10^10 has 10^10 zeros, but there are 10^80 atoms in the universe, which is way more than required. If every 0 occupied an atom, a single file of atoms 1 metre long would be enough. I think you thought that the number had 10^10 billion zeros, which is where the confusion came from
@PrimeNewtons8 ай бұрын
I think so, too. Numbers are not my strength 😀
@taktition_8 ай бұрын
If you tried to count to the number "ten tetrated to three," and each individual atom in the universe represented one unit of this number, you would run out of atoms to count this number at 10^80, meaning there would be 10^9,999,999,920 units unaccounted for. Ten tetrated to three is an unthinkable amount larger than the universe, which is already an unthinkably large size.
@CatfoodChronicles67378 ай бұрын
To me it checks out. In maths, BODMAS tells you that Order (Exponent) always starts from the highest point. 10^10 equals 10 billion after all, and 10^1000000000 is much bigger than 10^80.
@misikaro7 ай бұрын
@@CatfoodChronicles6737 But there are "only" 10 billion (10^10) zeros to write. So it's actually an easy task, you need to write only 5 zeroes a second without breaks for 64 years and you are done!
@DefaultMale_7 ай бұрын
But 10^10^10 is 10^10b because 10^10 is ten billion
@uzmabilal6313Күн бұрын
I had to double check to see if this was uploaded on April fools
@locien1825 ай бұрын
Teachers who teach with passion or excitement help people grasp the subject. You talked clear and to the point in a way that wasn't condescending loved it subbing now
@nexusnexus9221 Жыл бұрын
2^2^2 = 16. I feel like tetration will be used one day as quantum computers become reality.
@PrimeNewtons Жыл бұрын
I agree. I believe it's already being used.
@Catinsuit112 күн бұрын
Im actually watching during summer...cause i like your channel man 😎👍
@Warsteel553 күн бұрын
16 is the answer. 2 squared- 4. 4 squared =16. Thank you for the new knowledge sir! Ive been alive 34 years and you just taught me about something i didnt know existed
@randomshow93667 ай бұрын
Im studying for my ACT and came across this video. The quote at the end is one that I hope to remember till my time on earth expires. "Those who stop learning, have stopped living." Very powerful and inspirational. Also I love how you teach and your smile and enthusiasm on the topic is very interesting and this is coming from a "bad" student that absolutely cannot stand math.
@tommcwilliams10727 ай бұрын
If you hate math, you might have been abused. Hint: math is a language, and you're clearly doing just fine with English.