I love how you always explain the problem to fix, different iterations etc. That way we don't need to go through the same struggle!

A couple of years ago the guy said "hey, we can have the hopper pointing down and doubled sorting speed". Now he's like "disregard, eight times faster it is". Good job, man.

I love how at 2:49 he says "this is not possible" referring to something in front of him XD. Nice video as always!

I’m a longtime Minecraft veteran, and watching this blew my mind. Everything you explained makes perfect sense, and yet I’ve NEVER seen anyone do it. Phenomenal work

I really appreciate it when you make these behind-the-scenes/ design or explanation videos! :D

This is something I needed a couple of years ago! Had to redesign my contraption completely because I just couldn't get that hopper Minecraft item filter to work!

I really like the increase in advanced educational videos recently, great quality videos

Seems like this would also be useful for a furnace array to properly divvy out fuel for the hopper cart for maximum efficiency.

This is actually really useful for me because on the server I play on there is a 100-hopper limit, but no limit on hopper minecarts! Thx so much for explaining this problem!

This is so cool, I encountered that same problem a few years ago but didn’t realized the comparator wasn’t getting proper updates, such a cool fix

i love minecraft item filters for they are the sweet spot of complexity and problem constraints, that makes finding new ways to use ingame mechanics so satisfying

This is awesome! I have wanted to use minecart hoppers for item sorting for years, but could never figure out how to make it work. This tutorial is exactly what I was looking for.

I discovered this when trying to make a variable item filter with hopper minecarts. I didn't know you could just update the comparator so I was pushing detector rails back and forth under the minecart.

Perfect, i designed a bartering farm and it sucks to transport itens in the nether and building shulker box loaders costs a lot, this will help me use the space very efficiently

thank you for explaining this i had the same issue while working on the honey autocrafting system

i appreciate the description on how the regular filter works, too. i've made a million of them, but never actually known how they worked because i've only ever done it via tutorials and all they say is to place a thingy here and another thingy there.

Nice man! Great video as always!

I had this exact problem a couple of days ago but didn't think about updating the comparator, amazing timing lol

Love the videos! Been playing MC for just a few months now and feel like I'm starting to understand just how much work you've put into your creations. I hope you reconsider making tutorials-- your stuff is top tier! If not I understand. It's a pleasure to follow you and benefit from your knowledge and expertise!

Thanks for explaining the issue and showing us the solution step by step

I loved this explanation, very cool and insightful!

I struggled with this for hours, Thank you for the video

omg, thank you so much ilmango! You helped me a lot with that solution. Appreciate your hard work!

This is so excellent explained, love it.

Great video, very informative and useful!

Useful for sure!!! ty for going over it

minecraft: *has been out for about 102,000 hours* ilmango: "in my hundreds of thousands of hours..." conclusion: ilmango is a time traveller who has repeatedly traveled back in time to play minecraft. only way he could be this good at the game.

Great solutions for a problem that's plagued many minecraft players for years. The recent videos really feel inspired

Thx for this video. I needed that once wish I had this sooner x)

This helped me with my update supressed wireless item transfer, used a observer clock before but this is alot nicer for that. Thank you

oh gosh, this is i'm waiting for. it would be more useful design for farm & etc. love your vids, the whole explanations are far more good!

ilmango you are a genius!

This contraption come just at the right time with the new mud mechanic

0:36 When an issue bugs ilmango, he uses the bug as a beneficial exploit

This video was mindblowing. I am impressed with thne technical community everytime someone like you comes up with a simple yet invaluable technique like the way you managed to make a sorting system 8 times faster. I started playing modded minecraft because vanilla become to bland and repetivive, but this video has brought up my interest back :)

100.000 hours. With an estimated playtime of 10 years and the extreme case of playing this game every single day this would make 100.000 h / (365,25 d/y * 10 y) = 27,3 hours / day. Ilmango, you madlad!

Ilmango: Can’t place rails on top of each other * literally looking at rails on top each other Me: that’s illegal

Wow, had this issue so many times, ty

7:39 In I think season 4 of hermit craft, Mumbo was told to put furnaces on top of his hopper lines to reduce lag. (the season with the coffetable-shaped ocean base.) I'm not sure, if it did reduce lag, but maybe it could be used for ticking instead of the chest for stightly less lag. I don't know how this part works specifically, but if a furnace checks its list of smeltable items every time it starts smelting, then a blast furnace must be slightly less laggy.

Really handy little tip. I don’t know yet what for but I know it will be.

I think mango has secretly made a auto video maker Love the consistency, keep it up 😘

Wow! I learned a lot from this video.

Most excellent video....wonder if something like this would be good for high speed bartering farm (e.g. chucking boxes of gold bars at the piglins)

This was really interesting. Thank you! :) I feel there is potential to use this with gold farms. So far I feel like normal hopper systems just can't keep up with them or at leas tthis would be much cleaner solution.

welcome to the ilmango academy, today we will learn about item filter... but faster me who had been using the 1st version of item filter- the what now?

something about this makes me feel like I'm learning some very important redstone

When doing autocrafters (with carpet autoCraftingDroppers), I was also using hopper minecart filters, but in a different way, such that I didn't encounter this issue. I had only one hopper minecart, on top of activator rails, on top of two hoppers. The rails and both hoppers were powered by default, and unpowered when needed. Would this solution work for your powdered snow system? It's more compact than your solution, but limited to double hopper speed (with possible extention to quad speed).

Need to test this out in bedrock, but just found a _secret feature_ with the detector rail, where it doesn’t power surrounding block making this setup tileable. Geeked!

I was just playing around with this idea the other day, this looks A LOT better than mine.

Hyped for Scicraft finally getting updated to 1.14.

Holy shit, this might save my item sorter design, I had problems with observers

This is perfect for servers that slow down hopper ticks, super usefull

This is brilliant. Im hoping I can adapt this to fix my bedrock sorting system in my gold farm. Sick of having to occasionally clear my furnaces of things that arent sorted correctly. Im assuming some of this uses java bud magic but testing with the observer clock could potentially work

ooomg this is the solution to my guardian farm! it's producing so much i was struggling a lot. it's a mess of water streams with 6 filters each item and still some gets burned cuz even a loop keeps getting clogged

That bit with the chest sending updates makes me wonder if Comparator Update Detectors (CUD) still work. Also with all the new tech in recent times are there any new quartzless item sorter designs?

My monkey brain is still too small to understand this wizardry but you explain as best as anyone could try - great video! =)

So many lessons in one video.

Do you need to update it more often? If you want it more lag friendly you can detect the change in strenth with an observer and use that with some timing to take out the right amount of items every time it gets to 16 (and have a contraption to ignore the second pulse when it goes down )

Could you replace the chest with a full composter to reduce lag even further?

any news on scicraft version update?

another very interesting video (I haven't played minecraft in 5+ years)

I might integrate that octuple item speed filter into my raid farm

does the observer variant (shown at 6:37) also update the comparator each tick/what is the timing for updating the comparator?

@ilmango if U did that would it be a chunk loader if it ways update like the old hopper loaders

I have a problem, when I drop items in the sorter only 4 chests out of 8 get filled. The other 4 get filled only after the previous 4 are already full.

This is great for gold farms and other farms where you need multiple filters for the same item

can you have two hopper carts on the same activator rail? i.e. for the item stream pickup, could you use two hopper carts to catch the entire stack in one go?

Why have i never seen this before dang it i should have made that for my raid farm

Would a composter next to the comparator update the comparator as well, instead of the chest and the hopper?

I think you should see the item sorter made by Senshi Roll it's actually pretty good and it's relatively compact

Reminds me of a video I made awhile ago about fast item sorting.

An alternative way to unpower a hopper minecart is to pull the detector rail out from under it with a piston. Not sure if that's particularly helpful for this application. I use it for a hidden key card reader.

I had to make comparator less item sorter for my superflat no structures world. I designed something that works but surely ilmango would build something more optimal so if you want you can treat this as a challange

Love your videos. Question: I as many other players, have a raid farm, this farm produces so much, and I keep every item it produces. For the first 5-10 min the filtering system goes as it should, emeralds into emeralds, sugar into sugar and so on, but the loot of these raid farms are so laughable high, that it will flood my system, and one after one the filters of the sorting system brake down and anything comes pouring into wrong chests, and that gives me atleast 15-20min of extra work to clean up afterward. Any tips? But think maybe one of the solutions in this video might help, will try though :)

7:30 but the twenty tick observer clock lagged way more than the hopper-chest/barrel updating for my magic buttons?

How do you make it more tile able and compact for a real storage system

as a follow up to my previous comment. I was able to get two Hopper Minecarts stacked so the top one would transfer to the lower one, but i had to break the detector rail under it and use a half block item, like an iron rail or a fence post, to push the upper cart into so that it hung far enough out to be "over" the lower one. But then of course there is no signal to shut off the lower hopper when it should. So .. not working in 1.19.3

Run into a problem with my super smelter as I use lava buckets and didn't want the buckets into my shulker loader (and I use minecart hoppers to pick it up). I set up 5 hopper sorters with water locked rails but because of server lag (I guess cause it's not consistent) the minecart hoppers stop. Gonna try this and hope I works better I may have to set up two sorters 🤔but that's still better than five

Ran into the same problem. Simple fix was to dispense and remove one bucket at a time instead of keeping the dispenser full

A couple years ago I spent so many hours trying to do exactly this.

Would a filled composter instead of the chest also update the comparator?

I enjoy these building vids, but I also really miss Scicraft vids, and the 4x4 chunk challenge.

Amazing!!!

welcome to the future

very cool!

This would be useful for storing items in the cobblestone generator

How would this apply to a sorting system. When I attempted to apply it the detector rail locks the hopper line and only allows the item your sorting in the hopper minecart through everything gets stuck in the line.

Will there be another 4x4 chunk challenge video?

Could you also make one that stores the minecarts if they are not used

Oh, i was wondering why Docm77 had a chest with a hopper under it pointing straight into a glass block next to his furnace comparator in the item shadowing storage system, same reason as here

hopper minecard filters are also the best hidden triggers. you have to drop a very special item on one block and only then it opens!!!

Sorry mango, my concepts are soo bad in sorting system, i never gets them, can't understand the things in ur new design. Really the redstone community is being ran by you our Master. Mad respects🙏🏻

7:10 ive used this b4 in a ntf and it doesnt update with certain versions of lithium weirdly (also doesnt work on most paper and spigot servers but thats expected)

Sehr gut

Theoretically if you had a guaranteed 8 buckets per second stream of items you could also have them being picked up by the hopper mine cart, feeding into a dubble chest with 2 regular hopper item filters beneath picking up items constantly. This ofc would break instantly if there are no 8 items / sec at all times but It could be made a little bit more reliant with for example the whole chest being filled up with buckets and an alternative overflow bucket supplie as a buffer. The system also couldn’t handle anything above the 8 buckets per second. And it’s probably way more laggy. Am I missing something ?

i am not able to make this work in 1.19.2 .. the moment that i place the second rail the first is pulled into alignment and forms a sloping rail that dumps the minecart. And in the final version you show two hopper minecarts inside glass blocks that allow you to put rails on top of the lower two carts .. but i have not been able to find a way to do that .. pistons do not push carts into glass blocks. any tips ?

0:15 "after hundreds of thousands of hours". ilmango has been playing Minecraft (at least) 24/7 since the release of Minecraft.

Is it possible to compact this to 2 wide tilable or 1 wide tilable? I need this because I want a storage system that will be able to sort two minecart with hoppers filled with random stackable items that are broken by a instant minecart unloader (now possible in 1.19)? I tried to use hopper sorters without your fix and got frustrated because the delay was too long before it stopped sucking items. I also tried your double speed filter. The extra stacks of items in the second hopper is unacceptable to me so I need a fast (2x hopper speed) or greater 1-2 wide tilable system that accepts 2 items as filter and only uses one item in the bottom hopper besides renamed filter items. This is to reduce the sheer number of entities being dispensed by the system and making sorting into the first chest of the storage much faster than hopper speed while it disperses through each slice into the bottom chests at hopper speed.

Does anyone know what happened to the 4x4 chunk challenge. Was it anything to do with the scicraft update

This is ACTUALLY revolutionary for some large farms.