This movie broke Mark Hamills heart. And dragged his biggest legacy through the mud. It wasn't Luke. It was just a big middle finger from Ryan Johnson.

Haxwings ESO you sound like the whiny bitch to me 😂

@Haxwings ESO oh yeah Luke Skywalker was *so* upbeat in Empire and Return of the Jedi.

@@skeeverskeeyo7331 Mark was upset with it for a bit but he came to respect the character decision and then appreciate it, watch more interviews.

@Haxwings ESO Did you even watch the fucking movie at all?

grnaskd JJ looking around reddit for inspiration lmaooo

JJ sucks.

grnaskd To be fair, Rian put him in an awkward corner as he couldn’t really take the characters much further after TLJ. Not justifying RoS, but TLJ is a big part of blame on this.

K. Keith you took the words right out of my mouth bro. If JJ undid what Rian has done in TLJ then Disney should’ve just let JJ direct all 3 films, honestly.

Rómulo Figueroa JJ did have a plan, Rian decided to change everything midway through. Allegedly there were outlines of all 3 scripts, and Rian decided to completely rewrite the second one. Also JJ set up a lot of stuff for Rian, and he decided to work with... none of it, so I don’t feel sympathy for him. www.google.ca/amp/amp.denofgeek.com/us/movies/star-wars/271448/star-wars-rian-johnson-scrapped-jj-abrams-episode-viii-script what I’m talking about.

Oh nooooooo

JJ Abrams: hold my beer

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How about both

Yeah...

I know what you mean! I have a similar memory, that the original trilogy really changed my understanding of what a film could even be. This film had the same feeling to me!

Lightsabers got me into star wars. I was like 2 and toddlers are all about colors.

This was my experience as well...

@@gibberish1014 The Muppet Show is what did it for. "Hey Luke, who's your tailor? I love that robe!" "Oh no! It's Kylo Ren! Who?" "Did you really try to kill him?" "No I gurgled gershwin in his face. That was enough to make him hate me." "Impressive. Every word of that sentence was wrong." "Hey! I said something like that once!" "You did?" "Yeah, in The Great Muppet Caper. Also, your friend here kinda reminds me of one of my friends, Walter." "Is that a bad thing?" "Not really. It makes her more relatable to the long time fans." "Hey, by the way, where was he during your AB-" "Oh, please don't bring that show up! Ever since it suffered the same obnoxious reception as this film just talking about it gives me PTSD! Sheesh! You know Luke, I want believe that being willing to collab with Disney was worth it, but sometimes I think that it just caused people to suck the fun out our franchises." "Don't complain to me! You're the one who wanted us to sing When You Wish Upon a Star at the end of our episode!"

It's funny because most of the complaints about these new movies could suit the old ones too. But not a single "fan" will make this comparison. Nostalgia is making people stupid. *Stupid high level elite guards?* Are you talking about stormtroopers or Snoke's guards? *A super powerful highlord villain sitting on a chair dies like shit? What about his story? WTF!* Are you talking about Palpatine or Snoke? *Holy shit, how on Earth can a poor trained person on the Force face a master lightsaber user?* Are you talking about Luke vs Vader or Rey vs Kylo? *OMG that character on a cool armor was so badass! Can't belive he's gone without any background! Trash movies* So, are you talking about Boba Fett or Phasma? and the list goes on

Another phrasing of your sentence: "only someone invested in a franchise cares if they think that franchise is becoming bad and openly criticizes it"

@OHGAS Thank you, you just proved my point. Nostalgia made you stupid.

@OHGAS And by the way, stormtroopers are supposed to be the most well trained type of soldier in the galaxy. All the rest you talked is bullshit for the sake of your love for the old trilogy.

Please don't get me wrong, I love all Star Wars movies. But we all need to remember what they've always been: a cheesy epic space opera story that has it's flaws but it's worldbreaking beautiful.

Gave me a good laugh.

@@pandamera1 Ok, than Rey is better than Luke because yes. Right?

Same when i got out i have a really happy face but i am sad seeing hates in the movie especially the cancer Fanbase.

Same

@@pandamera1 yeah they're pure cancer they keep hating on each other if they call themselves Star Wars fans then why did they hate Star Wars they are not fans they are haters!

@@funnivamp55 I came out of the theatre and my friends all said it was amazing. I on the otherhand thought it sucked. There were so many things wrong with it and I was confused that all the reviews at the time were positive and stating it is possibly "the best Star Wars film". It was only a few days later when people started to criticise it. What redeeming qualities does it have besides having great special effects. I understand what Rian Johnson wanted but the execution of it was done poorly.

Me too

Same here.

@@ncrawford5673 happy 1 year anniversary of the rise of Skywalker

@@ryanbarth6691 happy 1 year anniversary to you too.

@@ncrawford5673 thanks

Yoda destroyed the jedi texts. Let the past die

Kylo Ren is my hero. He inspires me to chase my dreams.

James Njonjo Nah, Rey took em. And Yoda wasn't saying to let the past die, bc he said there is nothing in the texts that Rey doesn't know. And Luke saying "I will not be the last Jedi" and it cutting to Rey is another factor

And that means...?

I took it as Kylo lying to himself with by repeating the mantra, in order to fool himself into believing it, when he really couldn't. He couldn't bring himself to fire on his mother when they force sensed each other, and after Luke's deception, kylo tried to grab his father's dice, to hold onto the past, but they vanished with Luke. Then he looked up to Rey from a position of vulnerability, kneeling, mind scrambling for words that never came, seemingly caught by her witnessing his hypocrisy. Beautiful ending, but then JJ came back and didn't have the smarts to continue on with these moments.

* licks finger * *SALT*

Heyyyyy I like to say something similar. “I haven’t seen this much salt since the Battle of Crait”

@Shonksu oh god...

@Shonksu 🤣🤣🤣

It’s true, the video is just shit and dumbass “deep” stuff. It destroyed the universe and characters. Now, if you feel like having a battle of crait, reply and I will write an essay about it.

Totally, the helmet, Vader cosplay inhibited Kylo's growth in a satisfactory direction, so RJ destroys it, then JJ is all, heeeeeeey you wrecked it! And puts it literally back together and back on his head

@@adamscott7354 Agreed, back on Kylo's head and reverse any character development achieved in the previous film. Instead he killed him, because it worked so well in the original trilogy. I shouldn't be surprised, I've seen what he's done with Star Trek.

@@ebony6809 Well I actually like those first two I see your point though

@@adamscott7354The first two Trek movies were great but the last one... showed that JJ is not the guy you assign for the finale of a trilogy. The real question is how do you combine two very different directors' visions in a film series?

Me too i loved luke in this movie

@LEO2001 I thought Finn's arc was pretty good but the problem is that he was wasted, he deserved much better, Rey was fine but could've been better but i really like her arc until rise of skywalker totally destroyed it when they made her a palpatine, Kylo Ren was amazing as always and Luke was awesome IMO

@LEO2001 his arc in the force awakens is fighting for himself, in the last jedi it's fighting for others

@LEO2001 you have a point here but let's say this, Finn's arc in the force awakens was learning to stand up for himself and in the end he found people that he trusted that changed him into a better person, the only reason he save Rey is because she's his friend (could be wrong tho i usually think a lot more than i am right now but I'm too lazy)in the last Jedi he learned to care about everyone else but he's still wasted tho

@LEO2001 in force awakens his arc was learning to fight for himself and close friends, as he says at starkiller “I’m just here to get Rey” in last Jedi at the beginning he is just trying to leave so Rey comes back to a safe place, there is literally a deleted scene where Finn tells Poe that he isn’t part of the resistance, but then he sees Rose and he sees how others see him as a hero, at canto bite he has 2 people pulling him differnt ways, he has rose saying how bad thoes first order sellers are and the pain they cause then he has DJ?(is that his name) telling him that’s it’s all the same and don’t join like he was originally gonna do, and then at Crait he decides to sacrifice himself for the resistance but rose stops him to tie in what Poe learned that the resistance needs Live Leaders not dead heros

me

😔 JJ is a bitch

Kudos Why?

@@yoshikagekira9012 he ruined the tlj by not continuing anything that rian did

Squarehead 333 your so right if “rise” is the ending then I’m just like y’all should have kept with Johnson’s path because this one is so messy bro!

Actually there are LOTS of KZfaqrs who make wonderful videos on TLJ: Film Joy, Just Write, Shaun, Nerrel, Films, Films&Stuff, Make Stuff, Patrick Willens, Jenny Nicholson, Sthepan Krosecz, Movie Bob, Bobby Skulface, Star Wars Explained, Hello Greedo, AT-AT chat, EC Henry, Hishe and GeekyGlassesTV

Fair, but at the time I posted this comment this video was the only one that addressed, specifically, the theme of the importance of failure

Themes? Cool, but that does not stop a film from being stupid. They needed to execute these themes well.

The themes are good ideas but are poorly executed.The theme of failure is a great idea but the execution is terrible.The characters were forced around the theme.Themes were put above the characters

@@hellothere4045 - EXACTLY

But that makes you a hater... apparently?

Abrams messed it up from the beginning by portraying Luke as a myth in TFA. No one becomes a myth in 30 years. Seventy years later, we still have the ability to look back on and remember the heroes of WWII. There is no way Luke becomes a myth in 30 years. And that's not the only Abrams f-up in TFA. That's why I have no hope for Episode IX and refuse to watch it. Abrams messed up Star Wars, and Johnson just threw it in the garbage. If Johnson wanted to change Star Wars so much, then he should've started an original IP and built his own world, his own characters, and his own franchise rather than completely ruin something that people have enjoyed for four decades. Mark Hamill tried to warn us.

I think that in a galaxy of trillions of beings with only a handful of people at most seeing Skywalker in the flesh would make him a legend by virtue of third hand stories. I don't mind that he became a legend and I think it makes sense. Farmboy destroys the Empire's ultimate weapon kicking the whole Galactic Civil War into high gear, he then gains even more fame as a hero of the Rebellion and then ends the war by defeating the emperor and his dark enforcer. That, and probable New Republic propaganda hyping up the heroes of the former Rebel Alliance, sounds like a legend to me and probably would seem that way to most in the galaxy. And I will point to the past Star Wars properties that people didn't like at first, including; Star Wars V, KotOR II, and the Thrawn trilogy to some extent. There will always be new Star Wars for people. I am more afraid of IX feeling disjointed. I like TLJ more than TFA and it is not nearly as bad as Episode II and it's a good movie if you shed every expectation you have for it and your knowledge of the force from Legends. It bucked everyone's expectation. And you have to remember that these are all dumb, easy to understand kids movies, so why do we hold them to an impossible standard?

Isaac Engle "I think that in a galaxy of trillions of beings with only a handful of people at most seeing Skywalker in the flesh would make him a legend by virtue of third hand stories." Luke wasn't called a legend in TFA; he was called a myth. Those are two different things. Yes, what Luke did as a part of the Rebel Alliance to topple the Emperor could conceivably become legend in a short period of time, but there is no possible way that it (or Luke) becomes a myth. A huge amount of time has to pass before something can become myth.

He calls himself a Legend in TLJ, but you are right about the Myth thing in TFA. But even then you could argue that Luke may not have even existed and there were probably those people who thought he was just some made up hero or someone masquerading as a Jedi to boost Alliance morale or recruitment. They also mentioned the Jedi being myths in New Hope so the galaxy probably has a very short memory. Like how we now have kids who don't remember 9/11 for example.

Me too! And, what did you thought? Did you like Episode IX? I really disliked it

Unfortunately I did not...

yoda gave up he almost refused to train luke. Yoda literally said failed i have into exile i must go your so dumb

@@hilaryswan8866 Yoda only faltered on training Luke because he was performing a secret test of character. He needed to know that the man he was training was going to be committed and not prone to anger; Luke failed those tests, causing Yoda to waver on the offer.

@@KalibreSteelblast yoda fail stoping Palpatine and he didn’t want to train Luke, he wanted to train Leia so he also failed as the other mate said

You are not alone... Rian Johnson had the balls to try and give Star Wars finally a new fresh direction. But that plague known as "hardcore Star Wars fans" went apeshit, then they brought back JJ Abrams who created episode 9 after reading twitter, youtube and reddit comments coming from those SW morons... and we ended up with something really poor. I swear the best thing that can happen to star wars is for that hardcore fanbase to go extinct. Time and again they claim they will abandon ship and every premiere there they are with their lightsabers only to go ahead and bitch endlessly. Seriously abandon the ship guys.

Endermaster2006 it I ain’t good if u said finally some agrees that something is good that means it was hard to find someone that actually likes this bad movie that ain’t good it’s bad and the new one is worse

@@jacoin3458 Reading your comment made my iq sink

@elwingy we found Rians burner account. The Last Jedi was a disaster. Rise of Skywalker was bleh but it at least was enjoyable to watch. TLJ was terrible and uninteresting to watch.

Of course after I make a comment haters ruin my opinion.

Still doesn't change the fact that it's a shitty movie, and a disgrace to the Star Wars franchise.

TimeandMonotony The problem are the huge plotholes. Most importantly, if they can use light-speed to weaponise ships, why haven‘t they done this before. Sure it makes kind of sense, but it just destroys every plot we had so far. Why destroy a death star with a well placed torpedo? Just shoot a ship into it. Why even build a death star? Wanna destroy a planet? Just shoot a ship into it. But this moment, that looked realy great btw. at least visually, would have been completely unneccesary if the pink haired general would just have told someone her plan, or just that she even has a plan.

Fizechef Made sense to me that it would be a last-ditch effort because I can only imagine how expensive those motherships must be. Why would you kamikaze that massive an investment of money, time and resources if you had literally any other option?

Zylar Adama Your opinion doesn't change the fact that it's a great movie, and a shining example of star wars at its best. :)

TimeandMonotony Yeah its just that first of all it doesn‘t have to be a complex ship. Just take a lumb of metal or even just an asteroid and build a engine onto it, use a droid as the pilot and you‘re good. (Why didn‘t they use a droid in the movie btw.). But more importantly how many ships and people have they lost during these battles in the OT. None of this would have taken place if weaponising light speed is a possibility. But this is just one of so many flaws the plot in TLJ has. Like I said, it‘s a visualy stunning movie and I enjoyed watching it, but if you think about it‘s plot you have to realize thats objectively TLJ is just not a good movie. Looking at its plot there are so many things that are just not explainable. Why didn‘t the pink haired admiral just said: „Yeah I have a plan, I don‘t have to tell you, but trust me everything will be fine if you just do what I say.“ Half of the movie would just fade out of existence. Why didn‘t the first order just warp one or two of their stardestroyers in front of the rebel ships instead of chasing them for 15 min? Why can a Ty-Fighter shoot through the shield of a massive ship if a stardestroyer can‘t? How did that hacker dude know about the escape plan with the small shuttles if even Finn and Poe had no idea what was going on? How did Finn and Rose get back to the base after Rose crashed both of their ships in front of like 15 ATATs? How did Leia and Ray learned to use the force? Leia got probably trained by Luke but that still can‘t explain how she can survive the vacuume of space. Ray on the other hand spend like 3 days with Luke. No way she can learn all of that in this small period of time when Anniken and Luke needed months of training. TFA wasn‘t the best star wars movie, but it set up many story points that could have been great. Rogue One was realy well written in my opinion, one of the best star wars movies, especially because they didn‘t fear to kill of main caracters. TLJ was from a stroy telling perspective just bad. Everything set up in 7 was just shown to be not important, no likable character you were able to identify with was ever at risk of loosing something. (I don‘t count Luke because he was basicly converted into an moron who wanted to kill his own family) They even introduced Rose, just to kill her at the end so that nobody important has to die. I don‘t mind change. I don‘t mind trying something new. But change has to serve a plot, and it didn‘t. The change in TLJ was just for the sake of change itself.

Mikey Wood GARBAGE

Your an actual idiot, it was so poorly written, it was written more like a marvel film than a Star Wars film.

@lil zachy @taylorx10 And here is exhibit A. of toxic internet crybabies who can't handle people like things they don't.

@@AmusedWalrus I would pay more attention to them if they used punctuation and the correct version of "you're". Actually...no, I wouldn't.

@@AmusedWalrus amen

The internet is not why people hated this atrocious movie.

Especially nowadays. What are the actual odds of any sort of unexpected plot developments in Jurassic World 2 for example? Great banter.

Jurassic Park has been the same movie since the first one. Are you saying every Star Wars movie has been the same up until The Last Jedi?

This is the movie for the Star Wars intellectuals

David Allen good concepts poor execution

Don't worry - these basement dwelling morons can't deal with change.

This the Wind Waker of star wars

This is seriously the most asinine backward rationalization of a solipsistic and nihilist ‘story’ served up by an authoritarian narcissist. The movie is a dumpster fire of incoherence and insulting the intelligence of the audience. You reinforce why this movie is an abomination and you apologists are a sad joke.

Shonksu why do I sense we have picked up *another* pathetic life form?

What ya smoking ?

+richard haynes - This is the "greatest" review for you because it's literally the only one that doesn't tear the movie to shreds. you shouldn't need time to improve the quality of a movie (whatever that even means). A movie should be great for the audiences that see it in a theater. Not for audiences 20 years from now.

Scott K This film is part of a series of 9 films. When the 9th film is in and made then the whole series and the context of Episode VIII can be reassessed.

Stev shaboba Not what you are..

+richard haynes - It *should* be part of a series of 9 films. But it's not. If this were really the 8th film in a series, it would have followed a cohesive story arc that was outlined before the film was ever even written. But that's not what happened. When Abrams handed the reins over to Johnson, Johnson decided to take the story in an entirely different direction from the original story Abrams had in mind. As made clear by the countless things from the force awakens that he decided to just abruptly do away with, and the fact that the theme of the movie was to "let the past die." Now control of the saga is going back to Abrams, who has to somehow un-fuck the saga by either transitioning back into the original story arc he had in mind, or by continuing in the *new* direction Johnson has taken it, and doing his best with someone else's vision. Either way, the 9th film is going to be written on the fly. In other words, thanks to Johnson (and partly to Abrams) this is no longer a coherent series. It's more like a game of telephone. Regardless of what happens in the next episode, the clusterfuck that johnson visited on the saga will always be a part of episode 8's legacy. No matter how well 9 is written, and no matter how well the story recovers, it will always be true that 8 was kind of a mess. *No film should need to be salvaged by it's sequel in order to be good.*

KZfaq is full of alt-right douchebags and overly dramatic fanboys, which explains all the videos griping about the film. But honestly, Last Jedi is amazing.

That should be a clue man

Because if you dislike the new movie your alt-right ? Take your political obsessions else where

Kurt Horner the strawmanning is strong with you.

It doesn’t deserve defending.

Crisp Man years after it came out even I’m still unsure of what to really say, it was Good but also had some bad moments to some extent, and overall felt like one of the more Balanced Star Wars movies. What really dragged it down a peg from being one of my favorites was the Comedy, Admiral Holdo, and the Ship chase, Cause in all honesty when compared to Empire Strikes back the Millenium Falcon space chase was fast paced, intense with an iconic score, and the Last Jedi’s chase in general just felt slower.

It can be described has a bad good movie has in a good movie with bad things in it

Gabriel Mutombo yeah I’d hardly call The Last Jedi one of the worst movies ever, even if it did a lot of things wrong, it did things right too. And Keep in mind most of the Fans calling it the worst movie ever are the same Fans who called Return of the Jedi and the Prequels the worst movies ever, so their thoughts aren’t really something to take note of. Especially when they throw around bold claims like “Star Wars is Dead,” or how much it ruined their childhoods. Those remarks just seem over exaggerated at this point in time. Then you have Channels that dedicate themselves to trashing Disney with everything they do, which is not really the best way to go about it, instead of spreading hate for something their needs to be a fair amount of praise as well, but with those channels it just feels like they look more on the Negative side than Positive, but that’s just my opinion.

@@Fi_Sci_ I agree with you 100% when I watched it on Netflix I didn't hate it or thought that it ruined star wars

Gabriel Mutombo Thanks, it’s only until years after it’s release that I gave it a chance again, and it wasn’t as bad as I remembered, not Great, but not the Worst. If we are talking worst Star Wars that goes to the Holiday Special 😂

I won't go in to the details. I had a large number of mind and heart related issues "before" seeing it. People who hate it..are lost causes..don't listen to them. There for sure could have been some (changes)..improvements. But the Last Jedi..was "BEYOND FANTASTIC! I am still in shock.

If you’re used to something for 40 years you’re conditioned to that way think I used to hate the last Jedi but seeing it from a different point of view you learn to grow out of old ways of thinking

Peter Mc moron

I didnt like TLJ for various reasons but I accept, that you have a different opinion. But what exactly was good at TLJ in your opinion?

@@gustavhls5739 I think the movie had a message, but it just couldn't deliver it properly. Everyone complains about finn and rose's useless storyline and luke's behavior but I think that was done on purpose. I think the main message of the movie was that anyone can be special, you don't have to be of a powerful lineage to become strong with the force. That's why rey's parents are nobodies and that's what luke keeps saying to her, that the force does not belong to the jedi, that's why the kid force pulls the mop at the ending. The other message is that the older generation must be always respected and being younger and new and all does not mean you can do everything as you please ignoring the teachings and orders of more experienced people. That's why that whole imprudent scheme poe, finn and rose were doing was useless.Holdo and leia knew what they were doing but poe just wouldn't have it, he was reckless and that had consequences so he would learn. Now About luke, I sadly agree that his actions were quite out of character to me. BUT I understood it. His fame and power got to his head and he realized it afterwards, he told rey what happened. I wish people payed attention. He saw darkness in ben solo,the dark side was so tremendously powerful there that for a moment he did think of killing him. Contrary to other people, I actually think this humanized him a lot. It affected him pretty hard and made him want no part of that jedi order rules and ways bullshit anymore. And yoda helped him realize that he was right, it didn't matter that much, rey already had what it takes. So in the end luke did help the resitance, but maintaining his decisions. I think the problem was the way these ideas were presented. That shot of luke activating the saber on bens room was unecessary and a few shots of rey actually training combat would make her proficiencies look less unrealistic. I really love that movie.

Yes..... but actually no

the reason you couldn't put it into words is because you're an idiot. this is consistent with you agreeing with him, because that also makes you an idiot

Rey faces abandonment issues and struggles with her identity. She doesn't know how shit fits in the universe since she grew up without loving parents, without heritage, without anything but a life of scavenging. Her glaring mistakes are searching for parents in everyone she meets. She immediately saw Han as a father figure, and then lost him. She immediately saw Luke as her chance for a mentor and direction, but he fiercely rejected her. She wants others to tell her what to do rather than forge her own destiny. Nothing is worse than not knowing who you are. The throne room scene is replicated? Where? Be specific.

New Mexico Tuskens his bullshit was poorly thought out because his rhetoric is full of lies.

New Mexico Sabers well said. And, wow: Johnson literally stole the setup and execution of scenes from other, better movies, yet, Johnson wanted to subvert our expectations with something we've never seen before. Lmfao. Oh lord, the hypocrisy! Lol. Johnson literally stole the entire hologram ending scene from John Carpenters' Escape movies, almost shot for shot! And he stole so much more, he plagiarized and stole scenes and setups from so many different sources and passed it off as originally his own. Lmfao. He's a hack and it was a hack job movie. Wow. Hollyweird is being canceled...don't all these folks know?

@@baconjam5815 You claim their "struggles" but it doesn't seem to take ANY burden for her throughout the films. She seems to be doing fine being able to pilot like Anakin and if not better than him, being able to lift tons of boulders around her without breaking a sweat in just a couple of days after learning she can use the force, she's never trained to use a lightsaber, yet somehow was able to defeat the most elite troops of The First Order. She seems like she does everything with ease and doesn't let her so called "struggles" get in the way. Surprised she didn't magically scream and somehow kill Snoke herself lmao. Want to know a well-written character with struggles? Look into the story of Anakin Skywalker. Especially, in TCW. Btw, the throne scene is replicated with the only throne scene in the franchise that's in Return of The Jedi. Fucking moron.

Tide pods to be fair, Rey could barely hold her own against even one of the guards. Kylo was the one doing all the work in that scene, fighting 5ish at once while she struggled to keep one at bay

Same! I thought it was the best Star Wars since The Empire Strikes Back. Then I saw all the hate and I was like, WTF??

@@forklift1712 same with the Rise of Skywalker

@Rómulo Figueroa very funny. You didn't love The last jedi maybe, but you can't hate this. You haven't even seen the movie. You're just a stupid hater

@@rareschorban936 no he's being honest

@@forklift1712 anothrt hater who hasn't seen the movie. I'm not sure we watched the same movie...

I agree, and I also like the way the Force was portrayed in Rebels. I hope he (Johnson) fufills his SW Trilogy. Would love to see where else he takes it to.

It was garbage

@@lilzachy1842 that's your opinion

-JØKER - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nJ5jd5Rp3bKbhnk.html that’s many people’s opinions it was the biggest load of shite ever

Garbage movie. TFA was good. Tlj was not

It's Poe's personality. Remember when he saw Kylo for the first time, "who talks first, you talk first, I talk first?" Yeah, it was campy, but not worth getting upset about. The was the most complex and daring film to be done. Yeah, there are things I don't like about it, but that goes for every movie, and every SW movie. Alas, we all are entitled to our opinion. Hope you like IX better.

heh-heh, General Hugs...

Kevin Lawrence i understand that this is in poes character. Leias flying scene is also defendable since she is a skywalker but this is supposed to be a tense moment where the resistance is at the brink of destruction. It just ruins that and that leia scene f.e. works in a comic or at rebels but is ridicolous to watch :( i was trying hard to love this, but its just bad

Frederik Theron I understand your concerns. It’s just bothersome when you read ppl saying this is the worst SW ever. Hope you like IX better! Be good!

@@kevinlawrence2455 So we should give Jar Jar a pass because it's consistent in his character to be clumsy and stupid? The problem isn't the joke, but that it actually worked on Hux, which makes it really hard to take the Firs Order seriously.

Yoda: "Into exile I must go. Failed I have". "I cannot teach him. The boy has no patience". "He is too old". Doesn't sound like a man biding his time to teach this exact boy when the time came.Obi Wan, I agree, but not Yoda. And Luke thought of killing him for a SPLIT SECOND. I can't blame him, after the hell of darth vader, seeing the potential for another would be maddening. Reminds me of Mace Windu's intent to kill the emperor, which was far more purposeful an attack. And he said in the movie "you don't need me", which makes me think he didn't give up on Kylo, but that his belief was the jedi shouldn't be involved

Yoda on the ship when Padme gives birth: "Until the time is right, disappear we will." UNTIL THE TIME IS RIGHT. Go back and watch ROTS, near the very end of the movie. It's PERFECTLY clear. Kenobi goes into hiding to watch over Luke, Yoda goes into hiding to assure there is a Grandmaster to train a new hope (pun intended) WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT. Kenobi and Yoda fail but don't betray their convictions. They don't even fail because of their convictions, but because they're powerless to stop Vader and Palpatine. BIG difference. And all that after A THOUSAND YEARS of peace in the galaxy under the protection of the Jedi. Failure? I'll take that "failure" any time of the day... Luke, or this "Luke" in TLJ, thinks the Jedi must end, because of their "failure"... Pretty narrow view, don't you think? And let's for a moment consider this to be accurate. When did the Sith, or whatever these new guys call themselves now, say they should end? Makes no sense. No sense at all. No Jedi would think of MURDERING SOMEONE IN THEIR SLEEP. Even for a split second. A Jedi Grandmaster, responsible for the Order? No way Jose. I just wish people would stop making excuses for a VERY poor choice of plot. It makes no sense at all for anyone into the mythos of Star Wars.

Paulo Gomes Which doesn't explain Yoda's hesitancy to train Luke when he finally arrived, even though he clearly knew exactly who he was. There is a contradiction in intent in Yoda's purpose And what does Luke have the power to do by himself as the only jedi master in the galaxy against Snoke and Kylo? How is that a big difference? And Obi Wan at least had a hope in Luke so something to drive purpose, Luke has NO ONE at all. All his students are dead and he doesn't have a child of a force using legend to train in the future, so he has no reason o hold onto hope as Obi Wan did And no Jedi would murder a BEATEN FOE with NO WEAPON, even for a split second, especially since it's "not the jedi way", yet one of the most senior Jedi did. Because they are still human and beliefs/convictions are not always so easy to hold onto when your actions to the contrary could potentially stop a spread of darkness through the whole galaxy. Imagine if mace did kill pal. Would have been far more peace, but would have been built on a murder. Liking the movie isn't "Making excuses for it", I wish more people enjoyed it so I like pointing out contrary points to the grips people have (most I see as unreasonable and narrow minded). I liked the movie and am happy I did. You disliked the movie and are unhappy you didn't. Why exactly do I need to "make excuses"? More than one perspective exists besides your own, I wish most star wars fans arguing over this movie would realise this

CodGob mace was the closest thing to a great Jedi. That’s why he would have killed the emperor.

Sometimes in life you don’t make the best decisions, even. If it’s for a split Second. That’s what Luke did and it tore him down because he failed HIMSELF. Sometimes failing yourself is harder to live with than failing others.

Shad Harvey I agree some people do eat strange things

But all his commentary is based on false premises: 1. The movie needs to change, or it will become irrelevant. It seems the guy never heard of Joseph Campbell, or how the Star Wars movie is based on universal themes that have concerned humanity for thousands of years. 2. That Rian Johnson's script or writing is filled with nuance. I'll address this later in more detail, but to put it simply: there is little to no nuance in the film, it's why people are so upset. Take the death of Skywalker at the end, okay, kill him if you want, but what force of nature actually led him to die? How does it work? The typical answer: "It doesn't matter." 3. That change, on it's own merit, doesn't need to be as good or better than what it's challenging: This is the primary problem with The Last Jedi. The fact is that Star Wars isn't just movies, it's an entire universe, filled with video games, multiple people telling stories within that universe, that address all sorts of themes. It's a universe that inherently flexible to storytelling. In other words, Star Wars have never been lacking for those interested in experimenting. Yet, It's also this universe that is being rejected in Last Jedi, which is why it's wrong to say Rian is just trying to do something new. Rian's desire to go in a different direction, doesn't stem from a desire to tell a new set of stories in the Star War saga, but rather not to operate within the confines of a universe that the fans have created over the years, a confine that even George Lucas the creator of the universe had to abide by. Hell, as many critics have rightfully pointed out, in Rian's Star Wars, gravity seems to have a nature of it's own. The Last Jedi as opposed to the other 7 movies, is a shift away from classic and universal themes, to moreso postmodern themes that the movie seeks to address (solely). In the classic universe, there are laws, universal truths, purpose etc, in the postmodern one, all that matters is telling one's "own" story, and doing whatever you like. In the classic world, there is logic, there are rules that you have to abide by or else, reality will reward you with consequences (i.e. getting a lost arm, going against a trained and powerful SITH). In the postmodern world, there are no rules, meaning doesn't really exist, the world is incoherent and anything goes...you know, just help the less fortunate and oppressed, and life will be wonderful. The primary criticism of the Last Jedi is very simple, and has little to do with Rian wanting to change the direction of the franchise, but rather Rian's inability to create a coherent argument as to the reason why in the midst of a film that is indeed a visual masterpiece. As is typical with postmodernist arguments, they are convincing only in the realm of deconstruction, but fail epicly in the realm of construction. Unfortunately, the Last Jedi is a prime example of the failure to make a good film worthy of replacing or even being part of the Star Wars legacy.

The movie was GARBAGE full of feminism and plot holes and SJW social engineering. No one is wrong. The movie sucks.

First Last *In your opininon

No. Everything I wrote is fact. This movie sucks and was nothing but a social engineering propaganda piece and only idiot millennials or SJWs cant see that. But then again, they like to be told what to do. They cant think for themselves.

Jevioso Orishas *deconstruction

Then why didn't she? Huh?

@@kylemorello4787 She had to be trained in the ways of the Force first before being able to do that, obviously. OH WAIT

For real, was this slowed down to make the video longer to justify more ads?? FFS

James no. He just talks slowly. Your comment is ludicrous.

Thanks, he talks very slowly.

Actually id say it was civil and low on salt by comparison to a YT TLJ bashfest

So you were disappointed because you thought this movie would be a nostalgia fest and it did something different? Lol

Robin Brewer I did love the movie, in fact is one of my top three favourite Star Wars movies. Nonetheless I respect your opinion, you mentioned the reasons you didn’t like the movie and it’s understandable. You also were very civil about it and in no way you insulted anyone else’s opinions. It’s rare to see that nowadays from our fan base. I hope ROS is great!! PD. The Mandalorian indeed is epic!!

Instantaneous Sanic you forgot the /s

@@claesboillot5138 This isn't reddit kid.

@@supermysticsonic2 o lol you were being unironic

Well, he probably didn't look exactly at the weapon the person he was trying to kill for decades was holding. Also it could've been just a different blue lightsaber. Why would he question it? Why would he care what Luke's lightsaber looks like?

Maximilian Brückner He wanted the lightsaber pretty badly too, as he tried to grab it in TFA and TLJ. It’s a recognizable weapon, and I bet he expected Luke to use his green saber.

@@professorthox4499 Well yeah it would've made more sense if they just went with the green one. But it still is possible that he didn't recognize it from a few feet away. Because when he was fighting Finn and Rey, he saw the handle up close. Here Kylo was even angrier and he didn't actually have a great chance to look at its detail. Also it's just another thing to let the audience know something isn't right.

A detail would be him making no marks on the salt. But as far as Rian Johnson is concerned, Kylo noticed the saber change. I believe he said Luke did it to enrage Kylo, so he did notice. But if this doesn’t make Kylo suspicious, then that doesn’t make for a good villain. Incompetent villains don’t pose a threat, and Kylo keeps on hampering the First Order.

That's what happens when you're full of rage.. you begin to lose focus to the point you missed one pretty obvious (could've been misled) clue to Luke's projection

I love then! Not only the fight scenes! But the twists and the character too!

It’s an amazing film and and amazing way to evolve the saga

Are you braindead?

whydoineedaname11 You should stay open minded and watch videos on both sides. The movie however is abysmal.

Thanks Matt. Hopefully it will convert a tiny bit more than nobody. One person, I'm happy. BSW

That was in no way a criticism of you. Just the people I have dealt with on this issue are so staunchly opposed to any dialogue, that I haven't even sent this link.

I agree, this video puts to words a lot of the feelings I've had about _The Last Jedi_ and points out a lot of great things that I had never though about before. I really enjoyed the film, I liked it because it wasn't predictable, more like if George R R Martin wrote it lol. And you hit the nail on the head, it's not fan fiction, it was written by story tellers. I think this will absolutely change some people's minds... if they're willing to view it with an open mind. I think they made TFA to show us how potentially boring it would be if they didn't change anything. haha. Excellent video, thanks!

I agree with everything you have said. I love this movie and can't believe some of these negative comments. In some of these other videos, not yours, there are some people complaining about the lead characters being women and minorities. We are in the 21st century and some of these people are pissed off that there aren't enough of the lead characters being male and white. WTF????

Watch mauler please. He made a reactionary video then deconstructed every second of this movie over 5 hours. This was a bad movie. If you don t believe me give it a try. mAYBE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND US.

@Aru Gula shut up

@Aru Gula LET PEOPLE LIKE THINGS

@Aru Gula I am... I won't let you bully someone for liking something you fucking degenerate

@Aru Gula hahaha I am most definetley not a leftist. Far from it. Stop judging people for what they like.

@Aru Gula give an argument at least. I can't believe that you might be a grown man so I hope you grow out of this if your a child

I liked it

Watch the originals and maybe you would see why its stuiped Luke would cut himself off from the force and think about how stuiped it is the most powerful jedi or force user ever died using the force and obi wan had all his friends die his master die his apprentice try and kill him and then turn into a sith and he still trained Luke Luke didint kill darth vader he tried to turn him to the light why would he try and kill his nephew who in the rise of skywalker turned to the light Luke must have knowen that

@@MuhammadAli-tj8no Luke's arc is subjective, that's what star wars fanboys don't understand Both sides have good points But of course you haven't heard of an opinion

@@Whateveridksomething what do you mean lukes arc is subjective i might even have believed that Luke would do that if there was actually a good reason but no the sequels didint want that and everyone can have a opinion but when almost everyone who likes Star Wars including Mark Hamil doesn't agree with lukes story arch in the sequels you have to face the facts it make no sense and is stupid so even though there can be opinions there can also be facts and that lukes story arch makes no sense is a fact oh and also Luke was the son of the chosen one and he had been able to live with out losing both arms and legs so he should not have died by using the force

LitGitness this is one of those odd films that get better the more you watch it. It looks pretty crappy on the surface, but underneath it’s very interesting.

Hail Satan I agree :)

Yeah, Rian's style takes patience. I'm noticing all these connections to the preqs especially Phantom Menace. Mauler and Critique of Last Jedi: Rose Finn and Does Canto Make Any Sense At All? Star Wars Analyzed kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a6tzltqbmtTPZps.html Even the way Snoke is killed - midsection IS LIKE Darth Maul. LOL. Amazing.

@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 Why should a Star Wars film require patience ?

@@callumwebb4927 LOL Why should it not?

Beyond Good and Evil, my dude.

Its like the Man with No Name - even right down to low angles on their feet at the end.

Yoda: “A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack." This is what he does with Kylo

@Chan Thorpe i applaud u for remembering that, some people were mad that he wasn’t out there in person and wanted him to actually fight kylo!!!

@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 out of fear. In Ep6 as Luke chopped off Vader's hand he embraced the dark side for the first time. As he felt the darkness in Ben, he was overwhelmed by his fear 'and fear is the way to the dark side' so he instinctivly ignited his lightsaber. Ben, awakening to his Master with his Lightsaber activated above him, reacted with a single hit and Luke blocked it. _He didnt attack. (As portrayed in Kylos Version of the Past) Luke was afraid of the Darkness in Ben and Ben attacked him_ Atleast now this makes sense, as Palpatine was playing Luke the whole time.. Ep9 maybe was not at all bad, It made the Trilogy a whole again.

Is that why Yoda refused to train Luke at first? Because he was waiting for him to grow up? Obi-Wan convinced him to train him, Yoda was waiting to die...

If I was like I would just you know cut the cord

@Tarik Rashada luke caused the rise of kylo ren and brough doom to the galaxy by being arrogant enough to think hat he, as impatient, untrained, flirting with the dakr side jedi would be able to flawlessly teach students. If you would have inadvertendly placed everything you, your friends , family and the galaxy fought for in mortal danger and ruined the sacrifice of your father. you too would go to an island hoping to die. Luke realzied that the creation of Jedi inadvertedly brings rise to new sith, so his logical conclusion,b very rightly is to let the jedi die to prevent powerful force users from being enabled to become champions of the darkside you clearly missed the messages and symbolism of the movie.

@Tarik Rashada well, I guess the movies sees it differently and you just dont want it to be that way lol

No it's just a title to make you click on the video. I liked the last jedi.

the title is just clickbait. that's how it is nowadays on youtube. a shame, too. the video is fantastic.

He had to otherwise people wouldn't watch it as much. KZfaqrs have to compete nowadays.

fridge_party how about you you fucking read the fucking video title before using the word “fucking” on my Christian KZfaq server?

lol I think fridge party meant that within the video it is never stated.

C Wonderland I haven’t seen episode 9, but so far TLJ is the worst Star Wars film ever made

@@TheArbiterOfTruth I also haven't watched EP9 but I personally thinks EP8 is the best movie made by Disney. And I like the resurrection of Star Wars under Disney.

aerosurferlv really? That seems a sweeping, blanket generalization. Eek. Lol. Johnson literally stole the setup and execution of scenes from other, better movies, yet, Johnson wanted to subvert our expectations with something we've never seen before. Lmfao. Oh lord, the hypocrisy! Lol. Johnson literally stole the entire hologram ending scene from John Carpenters' Escape movies almost shot for shot! And they stole so much more. Wow. Hollyweird is being canceled...didnt you know?

I liked TLJ fine but it does have objective leaps in logic and lacks explanations for in-movie rules. There's just a general lack of world-building and thought put into it. I guess how much you manage to like it depends on your ability and willingness to fill in the blanks. I completely understand why people don't like it. I managed to and I'm grateful for it but the "subversion" wasn't handled very elegantly. We could have done with more world building and less "deus ex machina".

you're not intelligent xD

@Kevin Cobb yeah but they make sense in the universe, they aren't just forced in last minute because everyone forgot

You have no idea why people are mad. This movie is objectively bad storytelling. And there are freakin THESIS' ou there to prove it. Enjoy it if you want, but dont tell people its a personal issue. Its a writing issue.

I enjoyed it, but I wonder if my experience would've been different if I hadn't heard spoilers before seeing it.

@@LedBeatle-vz4ui indeed

@Shonksu why acknowledge something I don't agree with?

Joe Balaich because nothing’s perfect

@@thatoneguymatt987 try convincing people that regarding the original trilogy.

Yup

Nop

@Tom Ffrench I'm personally fine with that since TFA and TLJ take place back to back so it's almost like an extended length movie

actually it even undid things in TFA

@@dodo8585 What specifically? My only ideas are up to interpretation but maybe I'm overthinking it

@Kamil S "Go fuck yourself"... that is how you comment nowadays on peoples oppinions, right? Well, yes they destroyed the death star a second time. Because it is supposed to be a reminiscience to the first movies. And why on earth shouldn't the universe evolve and the "new order" build an even bigger thing than the last time? What could possibly be the reason for them not to? Stupidity? Speaking of the "new order". As the old movies had nazis as a model, these are models of the neo-nazis and where they come from and what their goals are(copying and going OTT with the past). So no, only because you don't get what the storyline wants you to tell, doesn't mean it is a bad movie. And really? Now you glorify the episodes I to III? I vividly remember everybody hating the childish movies and now they are the greatest? What?

lol

@Tarik Rashada Thank you for politely NOT tell me to "go fuck yourself"! ;-) Well, I was indeed refering to episode 7, when I was talking about the reminiscience. I kind of see your point here, but it honestly didn't bothered me that much. Overall I enjoyed the movies. All, except phantom menace. THAT was a trash movie! ;-) So yeah, I really don't get the hate. Maybe it is this way because its disney and not Lukas himself anymore, I don't know.

Look man, I like Luke's arc...BUT ALL THAT ROSE AND HOLDO STUFF IS AWFUL!! C'mon! Terrible writing! A masterpiece? You must be drunk.

@@edwardelric603 Well, this must be the case then.

The thing is, no answer as to who Snoke was would actually have made him interesting

What did we know about the emperor when he died in Episode 6?

And I don’t mean from the prequels, I mean when ROTJ came out in cinema.

@@paulwalker3758 we knew he was the supreme antagonist who was finally brought to a head in the final movie of the trilogy. We were given him as the absolute evil in the galaxy which allowed us to see that Vader was not the main villain here. He was given a chance to be something better. The difference is where the death of Snoke and the death of Palpatine came in the 2 trilogies. Snoke was presented to be the new Palpatine in every way, until they said, "No, now it's Kylo."

Steven Oliver so, you’d have preferred a carbon repeat of Return of the Jedi? TLJ gave two options: we see what could have been as a Skywalker becomes ruler of the Galaxy. Or we see a Skywalker who is ruler realising it’s not what he wanted and his ambitions had all been wrong. Instead TROS said, here, have ANOTHER Palpetine to kill in the finale.

So appreciated Marvey

🙄

I agree.

I can see what they were trying to do and I honestly appreciate what they tried to do. It's awesome how they are trying to show that things aren't just one side or another (good or bad) but I honestly just did not enjoy the movie.

+RileyGames I think it was just bad story telling in relation to the other movies. I know they weren't trying to kater to the old movie or even force awakens but that's part of what made me want my money back when I left the theatre. The movie just seemed like a waist. I hate that the purple haired women waited all the way till the end to to explain what her plan was and that would have prevented the pointless Casino part of the story. It was a good idea but I just didn't believe a lot of the story. I'm not hating on the movie, I'm just saying that it didn't feel satisfying to watch for me.

Damia, sorry but killing off older characters to "pass the torch" is as contrived as your going to get! Rian should have shown some real balls and made Luke the Main Character in the Trilogy. Go against "Age makes one useless". He didn't obviously. It might have been wise had Disney gone into this Trilogy with the idea that the Prior Trilogy actually meant something and there was the Balance of the Force and the defeat of the Empire. The Old Characters, don't need to be defeated by the Dark Side or die by the deeds of the Dark Side, they actually defeated that in Return of the JEDI. BTW, ITS luke who is the Return of the Jedi, not Rey. Luke was the last of the Jedi. The Emperor was worried about Luke not because he was going to become a bum on an Island, but the fact that Luke had what it took to defeat the Sith.

They changed it from something I liked into something I don’t like.

dave d the thing is this is no longer luke's story. It is rey' and kylo's time to shine. That happened on the original trilogy as well when obi wan and yoda went from being main characters of the previous trilogy to being secondary that helped the main characters. Oh and luke didn't defeat the sith. Vader did. He was the one to kill himself and the emperor. Luke was the one to conflict vader's mind. I think you got the whole point wrong.

Ζαφειρης Χριστοφοριδης I didn't say Luke defeated the Sith rather he was the "Return of the Jedi" and obviously the Sith's defeat was caused by his actions with regards to Vader and turning him back. Also, to the point of something being "contrived" this didn't have to be Rey's story. That is contrived, and that was the point I was making. Also, what is Rey's character? To me, its something quite similar to a Mary Sue who barely trained. Its an empty character. I don't mind Star Wars going "forward" but not crapping on the Original Trilogy in the process.

dave d the movie's message is letting the past die or kill it if you have to. That's what they did they killed the past. It is reasonable to kill off some characters mainly because they are to old and some aren't even alive. I would to disagree with you. I do believe that rey is now the last jedi and she indeed is the protagonist.

I think it's gonna happen like it happened to the prequels. Before the TLJ everybody hated the prequels. But now they are seen in a positive way. In fact, the prequels are actually good and we are seeing it now. I think this phenomenon will happen again in 10-20 years.

If in 20 years "Yo mama" jokes, plot-threads that lead nowhere and green milk go back in style, then probably. Otherwise I doubt it.

I agree. Actually I think that The Last Jedi will age best of the new trilogy; The Force Awakens relies too much on nostalgia, which probably won't hold over time, and The Rise of Skywalker is just bad filmmaking wise, compared to the previous two.

I'd like to think that, and I hope it to be the case, but let's be real as long as people like Nerdrotic are alive they will continue to shit on something they won't ever like anyway and put down people who actually like the film. Seriously that last one isn't a joke, I've stated my love for this new trilogy in comment sections and have been called mentally challenged because of that

It’s a dumb reason

Attiii Arghon Our comments are probably going to get deleted. I’ve not seen any critical comments being tolerated by this channel. He only wants those few who agree with his conclusions. He is wrong in his evidence based analysis. Yoda never burnt the ancient Jedi texts. We see them in a drawer on the Millennium Falcon when Finn opens it to get a blanket for Rose. Luke is never witnessed vanishing after his confrontation with Kylo, as they are too busy looking at Rey lift rocks. How does Luke’s legend build and inspire the galaxy? Well, you better hope that Kylo doesn’t execute all those on his side who saw him be made a fool of by his former Master, and that these First Order personnel get shore leave on Cantonica, so that the stable hands can somehow overhear their “stories”. No, this is a bloated chain of contrivances in which I identified 283 faults in my 53 hour analysis. That works out on average as more than two faults per minute. Many of these aren’t subjective takes. We have Holdo talk to Poe and her lips do not synchronise with her speech. That is an unquestionable fault. Subjectivity doesn’t enter into it.

@@Lipton3373 its not a dumb reason tho

@@____uncompetative you re wrong in EVERY SINGLE THING YOU TYPED

Yes

I have to find these positive videos on occasion to remind me it isn't all whiney babies who call themselves Star Wars fans but put down anybody who loves a Star Wars movies.

@@AndrewMurley There's really only about 5 mins of those sjw scenes

I feel like Rey trying to save Kylo was partially because of her teachings with Luke, about her bringing up that he brought Vader back from the Dark Side and such in the midst of his lessons. This is in keeping with Reys wish to be special, though she turns out to be nothing more than what she was....a junk dealer who had the potential to be a hero and a Jedi. The mental link between the two and her visions, expecting him to turn good may also have convinced her that she could change him(along with his understanding after her visit to the Force...cave? Underwater pit? You know the one I mean).

The only backlash comes from a deep core of SW fans but most people and critics loved the film and it was critically acclaimed for a reason. Unfortunately those hateful starwars fans are the ones spreading the flames most, people who liked the film have little reason to bitch or make themselves known. The haters are the one heard around the world.

@@fallen4life080 critis didnt like the shining and its one of the best thriller of all times..trully one of a kind,noone should give a shit what they think.i believe objectivly speaking tlj its 2,5/5 movie for a teen audience.but much of the audience arent teens .the optical side is a downgrade from tfa not because of special effects but from the tecnical standpoind jj abrams is just more talented and the picture in sw7 is superb .and the last more important part is that apart from kylo noone get meaningful development.the story in most sw was average but this was never the point .the other aspects of the movie made it work.this times there are no other aspects.no meanings, no world build up,no developent,no sense of purpose ,a mary sue protagonist etc.it would be fine if it was a marvel movie .if they want to make something different thats not tied to the previus why not filming a different era or a new ip?

Rey plays with a lightsaber for 10 seconds Becomes invincible

Agreed ,It's not about be different from original trilogy. It's about Rain Johnson did't care the things JJ set it up from TFA. TLJ ruined this trilogy.

ธเนศ ศรีสุรภานนท์ just like atack of the clones ruined the prequel trilogy.

Cloudkit the Mailman What in your mind did Rian Johnson throw out the window that JJ Abrams set up? You're assuming that the story was going to be a certain way after episode 7. Get over it and move forward, before the hate swells inside you.

The powerful ending moment of TFA became to be joke scene of TLJ ,where're the Knight of Ren, mystery of Snoke , and so on. A lot of things JJ built were threw away. Because this is a trilogy, why each episode doesn't blend in?

ธเนศ ศรีสุรภานนท์ just because he took the story in a direction that was unexpected and even potentially different from what jj had originally intended, it does not mean he spat in his face if disrespected his vision. Also keep in mind that jj was a producer and a writer , in some part, of this movie. The point of film, and art in general, is to allow people to express ideas through the medium as they see fit. I personally felt that rian Johnson used Star Wars as a platform to tell a beautiful story about personal discovery and understanding. Through this, this is the most artistic and purposeful Star Wars film there has been. It told a story that wasn't just a continuation of the story, like a soap opera or something, it was an actual piece of art that made statements.

For me the killing of Snokes was the high moment of the movie, infinitely better than a 45 minute boss battle where you know the ending.

Yeah i agree with pretty much all of that. Although, you should look at the Snoke dying scene again, because it too was probably the highlight of the film for me. It's great development for Kylo and it actually makes sense for how Snoke was able to be deceived. That being said, I wish they wouldnt have killed snoke because HE WAS SO FUCKING BADASS AND SCARY and now all we have is a (although definitely my favorite sequel character by far) bitchy teenage whiny asshole Kylo Ren as the big baddie. He just isnt intimidating as he keeps being beaten by an untrained "Mary Rey Sue"

Well, some points of yours are explained in this video, and while I agree with some, I can´t disagree more with some. What made the film so special is that it scraped our expectations. Only because the movie wasn´t what you expected doesn´t make it a bad movie. Reys parents being nobodies made it special in a certain way because it created the feeling that everybody can be special and that your parents aren´t deciding about your fate and Snoke getting killed off was unexpected and it really fucked all theories and while I wanted some explanation who he was I am sure it will be explained sometimes.

For me I really liked Snoke being killed off because I didn't care who he was like I didn't care who the emperor was.

"What made the film so special is that it scraped our expectations." - This was the only reason the film will be memorable at all. Surely you do agree that just because it subverted our expectations does not make it a good film. It was a bad film for many reasons, and wouldn't have been as bad a film if the film didn't subvert our expectations unnecessarily often. Defying expectations appears silly after awhile because you start to second guess every tiny decision that is about to be made, just because it may turn around "unexpectedly." Also, being a Skywalker doesn't decide your fate, it just makes you a powerful force-user for some reason (probably genetic). I call to mind that just because Anakin and Luke were both Skywalkers, Luke was good and Anakin was evil, fairly different fates in my opinion. To emphasize my first point, a movie isn't immediately good because it subverts our expectations, it needs to have a strong and intriguing story as well, which The Last Jedi doesn't (except for the Kylo bits IMO).

whole rey thing is the fault of TFA.

Nicklas Pikhoved if that’s what you got from this man I don’t know what to say man. Lol

If you have time, watch the other side of the story too kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rN1no8Z0z5azgp8.html

I bought the movie on 4K Blu-ray. That's how much I loved it

@@captainangel1078 we have all watched the manbaby yell for five hours straight, trust me.

@@sightseeing7993 Wow, if thats what you call someone who has well argued points, them I either highly doubt you watched it (Considering he never yells during it) and listened, or are just an idiot.

@@captainangel1078 He spent five fucking hours berating a movie because it didn't do what he wanted it to do. Maybe he didn't yell, I don't know. There are so many of these cunts that I can't tell them apart.

@Jason Millar just like the prequels?

When the new fan come. They can see 9 episodes as a whole. Just like current fan consider 6 episodes. Before that the old fan even hate I II & III. Give it time I guess.