How about ....why is it that people who make the ultimate sacrifice or commit a self-less deed don't come back? And yet those who are pure evil do? 😑 Dis stank!

You see I get the joke but kylo didn’t have any hatred towards anyone which is why he died 😔

He gave his life to her.

He turned into a mega simp (I'm joking)

@@michaeljakcsonkillerqueen385 I'm guessing he took inspiration from you (I'm joking)

I respectfully disagree, because if that were the message then we wouldn't have Finn and his band of defected stormtroopers. You can't have redemption without some sort of sacrifice on your part, for Finn it was giving up the only life knowing he would be hunted for it, learning to stop running away way his arc over the course of Force Awakens and Last Jesi. As for characters like Darth Vader and Kylo Ren it's a bit more than that. The reason they have to sacrifice their lives is because it plays into their arcs. Anakin Skywalker as a character was so emotionally driven that he became overly controlling about himself and his loved ones even over death. That's why Vader choosing to confront himself over this flaw he's repressed for so long and directly overcoming it in order to save his son is so emotionallu resonating. Vader just force pushing Palpatine over the edge and surviving to live another day doesn't hit as hard both in a practical sense and narrative sense because 1. He would be arrested for war crimes and even executed. and 2. Him survivng doesn't completely his character arc. It's the same for Kylo Ren, conceptually Kylo Ren is meant to be an inverse of Darth Vader, where Vader started as a confident figure who was slowly broken down Kylo started as a broken figure who slowly given more confidence. That is why inevitably there will be parallels because as we all know it's like poetry it rhymes. But Ben Solo's arc isn't a copy and paste of Anakin Skywalker, Ben Solo became Kylo Ren because he was born into a situation where he would inevitably always be compared to legends and figures of the past is mentally taxing especially as a child. It's why he needed other forms of validation which Palpatine preyed on through Snoke. It's why he chose the name Kylo Ren over Ben Solo. Ky-lo literally being taken from sKYwalker and soLO he is making a statement that he is rejecting and cutting away all the baggage from his old name relating to the past and his family, Ben relating to Obi-Wan, Luke and the Jedi and Solo relating to Han, Leia and the Rebellion. The name Kylo is a direct manifestation of his "let the past die" philosophy, he is embracing that he is less of a Skywalker and a Solo and more his own man, Ren signifying that he is the master of the Knights of Ren, and the master of his own destiny. But as much as he says it he never got the validation he needed until Rey came along, someone who grew up in a situation where she was a nobody and only stayed there because she was comforted by the desire of wanting to be part of a family that would come back for her, the opposite of his situation. Rey had to learn to make her own family in spite of her background (it remains true for her being a nobody and Palpatine), which is also why she would accept him for being Ben Solo, not Kylo Ren. And in the grand scheme of things her being a Palpatine is just a way of tieing them both to the same great evil and it poetically represents the battle of generations between Anakin Skywalker and Palpatine. Anakin chose love and Palpatine chose control so in addition to Anakin's descendant in the end even his own descendant was against him. Ben Solo's arc culimnates emotionally when he recognises that him gaining internal validity doesn't just involve him controlling his own destiny and forcing it on others instead it involves letting other people care and love for you like how each member of the Original Trio died to save him in the long term and it culimnated with Leia solidifying that he's not this monster that's too far gone and the memory of Han Solo giving him the ok. Which is why for his redemption to work it demanded that he sacrifice himself, he needs to save Rey even if it means dying to show how he isn't afraid of not being in the spotlight of destiny anymore. And as a final battle of the Skywalker Saga Ben Solo did what his grandfather Anakin Skyalker couldn't originally bring himself to do, save the ones he cared about from dying. Not by cheating death but by embracing it in the name of love.

Fulcrum 1138 Amen

Exactly. There's a reason 'Redemption Equals Death' is a trope. Given how overused it is, it's no longer interesting storytelling, it's just lazy. Of course, JJ and co. are utterly lacking in creativity so it isn't surprising that they went for the cliche. (Don't get me wrong, JJ is a decent director, but he *should not* be writing what he directs. He's terrible at it.)

@@angrbodaironwood718 Of course not. We should send the message that no matter how many wrong things you do you can get away scott free! Give me a break. This was the only reasonable and dignified way that Ben could have gone out. For him to have gotten off scott free to set up a house and have kids with Rey is an insult to all the lives he's taken and people he's hurt. Going to prison would be humiliating. And having him traveling the galaxy like some penitent monk is out of character, that's not Kylo. He went out like a hero saving the woman he loved. And he went out in such a way that he can be brought back. Which is probably what will happen. He'll be given Revan's story and be mind wiped.

@@Bryan-dr5qy Friend this is wonderful! Very insightful.

i agree Kylo Ren

Oh God Adam Driver looks So Sexy, Those Abs, I would Love to Cuddle Up In Bed with him, anytime.

Sally Martin shut up u thirsty girl

Did you just complement yourself?

Kylo Ren sorry bro but Anakin is the best

Agreed, it probably wouldn't have received this much backlash (as long as they didn't make it toooo romcom and corny)

I spend my days obsessing over "Reylo" fanart dreaming of a different reality where that happened

or even if they have both defeated the emperor together because he was literally the last Skywalker and then Rey would've been the new one or something ... it would've made more sense

I feel like Rey should have turned evil after killing palpatine and Ben had to kill her and bury both the lightsabers and he’s a skywalker

I would have watched it multiple times in the theater if that had happened. As it was I stormed out of the theater nearly in tears. My hubby and his best friend completely taken aback by how angry I was. I was so mad that I couldn't rewatch it right away.

A G R E E D

Hell yeah!

I thought the same, I felt like he should have been the one at the end, not Rey, who had those final moments. Also I think if he had survived too that would have been amazing, even if he gave half his power to save her and she gave half hers to save him so they were equal, there's no way he should have died. I think if he killed Palpatine it would have been the perfect ending.

Scott Griffiths Or at the very least Ben should have been fighting Palpatine together with Rey

Yeah, Vader’s sacrifice was worthless because of him coming back

Right!!! I thought Disney would've made more money off of him by letting him live.. 😣 plus story-wise and continuiity. Everything you said I wholly agree.

I agree. If anyone should have died...it should have been Rey. Ben/Kylo Ren could have then left, grieved over Rey, and move on to next scene. Then show Ben at the END of the movie (having returned to Luke's home planet) to bury Leia/Luke's light saber's! Then the title would have made sense..."THE RISE OF SKYWALKER"! Luke's nephew would have been the family member to RISE back to LIGHT side of the force!!!! YAY! The End!

I had also heard a rumor that Adam Driver did NOT want to make any more SW movies and that is why character was killed off. Could that be true???

Yep but this is where you have to understand practically all of Hollywood lately is trying to push this agenda where Women are the best and on top now. Thats why they went with Rey and why it was always going to purely be about here here in these sequels. And well Disney love thier princesses.

@@judegross7624 No, it was George Lucas who was the first to come up with a Female Protagonist, in his Sequel Treatments that went through a few names. Early on his titular heroine would be called "Skylar", then he changed the name to "Thea", which is evidenced in very early concept art, when he was trying to flesh out his Sequel Trilogy story before he sold Lucasfilm to Disney. Then when Disney bought Star Wars, they threw out Lucas' treatments, Micheal Arndt was brought in as screen writer and he came took a stab at the story evolving the character into "kira", then he couldnt nail anything down which worked and left. Thats when Kennedy hired JJ. Abrams and by that point the character had gone through so many changes, Lucas' original character of Skylar/Thea was long gone. And JJ worked Arndt's "Kira" character into Rey.

While I wouldn't want Rey to die, it would have added meaning to the title in an interesting way.

@@angrbodaironwood718 Sure, I love Rey myself too. But for the story it would have been much better, more unexpected, and the stakes proven to be much higher. It would have shocked the F out of people and made Rey an even more meaningful character. Then we would have got Ben going to the homestead.

That’s really how it should have been in my opinion.

Or they could both live lol

@@ilovemana143 yeah but rey living was obvious

I agree

Thx

their acting was fine enough

Too much characters in the sequel trilogy.

@@niallcraig6792 esp in Rise! Unnecessary.

Please nobody fight me but I rather like all the movies. Don’t get me wrong some are better than others. I have a few complaints but overall thought it was an ***okay-ish*** ending

A Day In The Life Of Kibbs me too! I think all the Star Wars movies are good!

Ben Solo got one line....”ow”.

ITA

Kurly Kayla yes! I can relate to everything you said. I still have the hope 🙌 there are some legit theories on his comeback

@@katarinaserbentas I have hope too! Even if it's just for one standalone film, I'll be satisfied!

Ben Solo will be back. He and Adam are worth a fortune, and DLF knows it. He and the character are money in the bank.

Though the whole cast has expressed the end of the Skywalkers storyline, maybe by some twist of fate,Lucasfilms/Disney will change their mind.Who knows? maybe we'll see Ben Solo living as a hermit because he thought he didn't deserve redemption.And that the death scene was only an illusion cast by him Luke Skywalker style.Then Rey finds out he's actually alive, and by some glorious reason, Ben Solo needs to be found because he's the last Skywalker.That in itself is a nice plot.So many possibilities.....

@@kurlykayla9013 definitely agree with u girl, there has to be a way for him to be alive somehow, he's the last living skywalker rey has to find him some way! x

Are you serious? Lmao

I agree with this!

TEA SPILLED Kylo ren as a character is top 3 characters in Star Wars

Kylo Ren Sorry you can’t compare Kylo Ren to Anakin,Leia,Luke,Yoda,Palpatine,Vader,Obi-Wan,Ahsoka Tano or any other character from the original films or even prequels or Clone Wars

Even if I strongly disagree, I'm glad you enjoyed this character

#BringBenSoloBack

Nefeli V. Gtfo disgusting reylos

No he killed millions

@@realnanidoe There are characters who has done way worse, yet Kylo can't come back? Kyp Durron killed billions, and thats fine with you?

@@HenryLouis21 kylo killed millions like vader he cant come back

He is decent

they don't need him any more because the trilogy ended.

Iron Kamekaze stfu

Killing him was a huge mistake, but the biggest mistake of them all imo is how they handled it.. He died and nobody ever mentioned him again. Rey has no sad feelings and everyone is partying. Not even a force ghost Ben.. I can’t with this movie :(

@@lc4152 I don't know maybe because he tried to murder them all and he policed every world creating a massive war where he goes to extents such as burning small villages it isn't like he's a good guy.

Kelly Jung ikr. It’s almost like his death was unsignificant .

Not to mention keeping his thoughts hidden from Snoke and bringing Rey back to life -- something his grandfather was willing to sell his soul to learn.

@@indranidasgupta8982 ture

i thought there was only 3 films every trilogy? and adam driver said he was done with star wars :( hoping he comes back tho ALIVE

whats the name of it?🤣

Because you have a crush on him doesn't make him the best character

@@Chespin-gc1rf you know nothing about me dude so fuck off

@@margaret7504 "fuck off" yes its kinda noticeable that you do

@@Chespin-gc1rf 🤣 ok..

@@margaret7504 Sorry for adding such a unnecessary response to your comment.

Noah East Agreed

I wish the RoS was done better, JJ had another shot at a Star Wars film and made the worst one to date

Noah East yeah and JJ only brought the mask back cause they put a lot of effort into designing it??? R u kidding?? Never mind the storyline, what matters is obviously them sulking and getting their way 🤦🏻‍♀️

Yep, and the decision of making Rey a nobody was one of the better decisions in the sequel trilogy too. The fact they had to make Rey a Palpatine is a bit bloodline-obsessed. Can't true power come from small places? Anakin was just a boy in a desert planet when he was discovered, can't Rey just be a random girl too?

@@MilA-eh3gf I think it would have been boring in a way. I was confused at that fact but they always talked about her parents in a way that there must have been something behind it. I expected something shocking because otherwise it would have been really boring. I don't know why it must have been Palpatine because for me it made no big sense, but that she wasn't just a nobody was fine

Thanks man. I had a daughter and the channel kinda fell by the wayside, but she's 18 months old now and easier to handle, plus might as well make the most of not being able to work during this crazy pandemic :P thanks again, I really appreciate it

Behind Star Wars, that’s great, family first

After an entire year!

@@antonioescobar847 wait what??

@@thekinggamer488 the guy who made the video, he disappeared for an entire year

minerVSzombies the visual effects I guess and the sound track. Other than YIKES

I agree

Rian Johnsons vision for the character was far more unique and compelling IMO. JJ just made him a watered down Vader copy. He had the potential to be in the top 5 of Star Wars characters with good writing, and Drivers magnificent performance, but naturally JJ squandered it.

@@noaheast7600 I agree. The best thing Rian did in ep. 8 was Kylo's arc

@@noaheast7600 Totally, I thought it was so cool when Kylo killed Snoke and took over the First Order (I didn't like how Snoke was killed so easily, but I didn't even like Snoke as a character to begin with, so I was fine with that). Kylo should have been the main antagonist of The Rise of Skywalker, but instead we got the Emperor for no good reason and this Reylo BS.

BADD BUNNY yes yes yes

Not to mention that Rian Johnson literally said that the hand touching scene in TLJ was “the closest thing to a sex scene in Star Wars”

Sounds rather shit.

Probably but I do like that he specifically repairs the one he broke

shut up reylo

@Jimb0 I don't ship Reylo and I was mad about his death

I was just not suprised, i was hoping rey would die, but the sequals r trash and they killed off the one good character

Just You.

Me

MEEEE YEAAAAAAAHHH

Franchise Fanatic it’s the best Star Wars film next to Empire honestly. Star Wars fans are such idiots for hating it. At least the critics loved it.

Loved it

GREAT TRILOGY!? hahahahhahahaa what a horrible failiure these movies were garbage and ruined starwars, full of mary sues and wasted potential.

@@jeronimoepic2946 if you don't have anything nice to say then don't reply, no-one cares about your negativity …. Mia I completely agree, killing Ben was a bad decision but it really is a great Trilogy, I got them on dvd so I can watch them all the time, I like all the star wars movies to be honest, old and new.

@@EmmaWilliams2 no one asked, no one cares, fuck off

@@EmmaWilliams2 its terrible u cant deny that

@@jeronimoepic2946 it's trolls like you that ruin the internet

@Leonardo Marquez Because Kylo Ren is the number 7th.

@@ivetteguerrero455 ohhhhhhhh I thought there were 7 knights of Ren and Kylo Ren was just called Kylo Ren 😂

@@Daniel27125 No, Ren was the máster but his name was changed and like the Knights of Ren, was added " the Ren thing" 😁

Hi can i ask what is the female term for simp

Indeed