In this Xmas episodes, we take a look at the rebirth of the Tudor Marine Nationale. Did Tudor nail the remake, or did they miss the mark? Watch to find out! Have a Snowflake Xmas!!
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@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Continue the conversation on WatchCrunch: www.watchcrunch.com/Max/posts/would-you-buy-the-new-maine-nationale-over-the-bb58-919
@mauriciomucino10152 жыл бұрын
I already have!
@audemarspiguet42372 жыл бұрын
In the world of glorified “KZfaq celebrity” watch dealers, watching your videos is just refreshing. No bs talk about market prices and hype, just pure enthusiasm. Thanks!
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that man, I'm just out here speaking my mind 🤣
@MarkN672 жыл бұрын
Great video. As a diver, I feel that Tudor has got everything right with this watch. I was a little sceptical at first but with more thought I love it. The depth rating is perfect and inline with my dive computers, the size is perfect if wearing it over a wetsuit or drysuit cuff. The blue dial adds the contrast as it’s the last colour to go at depth and the watch is easy to read in low light conditions. I know this as I dive with a regular Pelagos. I love the fixed bars too, your watch is safe and secure on a NATO strap. As a tool for divers, this scores a 10/10 from me 👌
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Wow and actually diver has spoken. Cheers Mark, you can drop the mic and walk away 👌
@RJ-cq8dd7 ай бұрын
Tactical frog FX. The poor man's homage of the poor man's Rolex. And i love it!
@nicholasroberts40437 ай бұрын
Just got my pelagos FXD two days ago and I can't take it off. Such a good watch!
@danielsavadel2151 Жыл бұрын
I didn't understand why I liked the FXD so much more than the BB58 until you explained that thing about shapes. Hard angles vs round or soft. You taught me some thing there. I also prefer thinner case, no date but - the shape thing. Thanks - great video for a great watch.
@HDSTACK2 жыл бұрын
Max, another fantastic review with great information and top notch video. I was looking at a GS GMT as my next purchase but being retired Navy this watch just jumped up on the list! Thanks
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Dude the MN is a real quality piece in the metal! You won't be disappointed 👍
@512bb Жыл бұрын
A bit late to the party but your video really caught my attention in a few regards. I am a former Green Beret with a combat dive certification that went into the Army with my 16800 Submariner that is now celebrating 40 years together. As I get the Rolex view of classic evolution as opposed to the trendy revolution approach to design. Although a dedicated Rolex collector, I do admire many other brands & been looking for something a bit different. As just about every professional Rolex has the typical round plots & oyster bracelets I feel as if I'm basically wearing the same watch so the FXD is a breath of fresh air. If you were knit picking, I think grade 5 titanium would be nice & of coarse the on going obsession Rolex & Tudor has with the never ending text on their dials that they know most people would prefer less of but it isn't enough to stop me from buying one. I love the pureness, symmetry & NO round plots, Tudor can be very proud of this one. And just a short word to put things in perspective, I know it's cool to go on about dive watches that are rated to absurd depths but we were rated to 100 ft with us typically operating at 30 ft, the fun kinda of ends when you start going really deep.
@Biggun-ft7bj6 ай бұрын
I own this Tudor Pelagos FXD and find it to be a superb watch.
@BrittPearceWatches2 жыл бұрын
My favourite CHANNEL!
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Brit! You've worked so hard this year, congrats and enjoy your time off 😊👍
@ToolwatchBoutique2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I’m not a huge fan of this watch nor Tudor in general, but I appreciate you presenting it to us so thoroughly and with additional personal opinions!
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, curious why you don't like Tudor?
@verynormalman8 ай бұрын
This is now my second favourite watch, after, I am embarrassed to say, my P42! I think it looks modern, and I love the qualities of the titanium. I wonder why watches have ever been made of steel. Thanks for all your content. Very much appreciated.
@KCTimeShare2 жыл бұрын
I was seriously expecting you to say "I'm DIVING IN" @ 0:04! Have a good holiday!
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Haha, thought about it 🐟
@milanchristi79392 жыл бұрын
Bouba-kiki...pancake-dinner plate...and now the FXD...so much to think about! It's only fair that you discuss how shapes make you feel. Excellent review!!
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Milan! Don't sit on kiki 😉
@chuckgladfelter6 ай бұрын
The FXD is next on my list.
@yaabaa2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love it. Simplicity with the no day/date and no spring bars. I love that it's not a Rolex with the hype, inflated prices and show off image.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, it's what Rolex used to be decades ago 🤔
@galaga88342 жыл бұрын
Your explanation from the 6 min 20 sec mark was articulate and bang on. You have also made a fantastic video. Great job, I'm now a subscriber.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Good to hear from like minded folks 😁👍
@sackman18867 ай бұрын
I feel like as Rolex has continued to move up market in terms of luxury, Tudor has filled the space where the old vintage dive watches would have ended up if modern dive computers were never invented. I can't wait to get myself an FXD - either the blue or the new black version. Both are killer.
@chriszivoder26502 жыл бұрын
It's another great release from Tudor, I love the painted hands and indices. It will never replace my BB58 as the the size is just perfect and the comfort of the bracelet is just unbeatable at present. However, if it was the same dimensions as the 58, it would certainly be an addition to my collection :)
@wadebolderman3250 Жыл бұрын
Ditto! The perfect diver/navigation watch.
@gordonfreeman44912 жыл бұрын
Love the Bouba-Kiki talk. Cool.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Haha, you can tell I've been obsessing for a while 🤣
@gordonfreeman44912 жыл бұрын
@@WatchCrunchOfficial Which is why we subscribe ;)
@TIMSTURBO2 жыл бұрын
Its a fabulous watch don’t be put off by the 52mm its a very misleading it wears like a Sub, it’s incredibly legible and very comfortable….
@YoThatsMyAsian2 жыл бұрын
you posted this at 4:20 AM, that’s some dedication max
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
I dream of watches Brian 😉
@miketaylor76782 жыл бұрын
I really like what you are doing here Max! Glad your channel was suggested. The FXD really poses a problem for me. At the price point and features it is really hard to resist!
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike! I can report it's a darling in person 👍
@TommyRibs2 жыл бұрын
I love the FXD. I tried one on, and it fit perfect for me. I also liked and subscribed.
@omax10232 жыл бұрын
A very interesting time piece.... Not having to "fix" something that's not broken makes all the sense to me, and one less thing to worry about!!! Merry Christmas Max, let it snow, let it snow, let it snow!
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Merry Xmas! Let the snowflakes fall ❄️
@omax10232 жыл бұрын
@@WatchCrunchOfficial lol. Yes and melt away!
@anacquiredtaste35822 жыл бұрын
Bought mine at retail yesterday, already trading 2-3k above retail. Your review was well done.
@stevehs42872 жыл бұрын
The BB58 was the same on release . Now they are widely available and eBay is stocked full of them for well below RRP.
@rho582 жыл бұрын
@@stevehs4287 That’s good to know, I can wait until the FXD hype is down. Managed the 58 a day after requesting it, that was last summer.
@danielt.muller70092 жыл бұрын
Great vid. 👏 Got my MN21 two weeks ago and it's awesome. Fully agree about the square indices fit so much better than the round ones.
@dontbelieveeverythingyouth81732 жыл бұрын
It's a beast, this is what a tool watch actually is. The dial is simple and highly legible, thankfully they removed that hideous 3D chapter ring, it's got fixed bars, a multi directional bezel, WR that isn't ridiculous, yet still out of reach for 90% of the people who will wear it, it has provenance and an industrial purpose. The only mistake made in this release was the accompaniment of a black version. Of course, all of this is subjective, and that's my personal opinion as a lover, collector and owner of dive/tool watches.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Good point! A black version would've been cool. Or maybe allowing you to mix and match black/blue dial/bezel combos? 🤔
@cesart73542 жыл бұрын
The dial is not simple, too busy.
@nachovalenti2 жыл бұрын
Cesar Torres The dial too busy? Or you are kidding or you need glasses.
@cesart73542 жыл бұрын
@@nachovalenti Yes, 4 lines plus the brand and “Geneve” what were they thinking? Add the instructions and full specs???😆🤦🏻. Someone else here needs those glasses
@dontbelieveeverythingyouth81732 жыл бұрын
@@cesart7354 *For you.
@louisfroment18792 жыл бұрын
very interesting your comment on shape!!??never really notice on the black bay but now it is all I see
@horologistmorrow60802 жыл бұрын
I love the bidirectional bezel and the countdown insert. Much more practical for me since I can't even remember the last time I went swimming, let alone diving!
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
The click is very satisfying 👍
@horologistmorrow60802 жыл бұрын
@@WatchCrunchOfficial The people in our lives think we are nuts, "Listen to that click! I sounds so nice! A little spike of dopamine!" "There he goes again..."
@lost5587 Жыл бұрын
@@horologistmorrow6080 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@kombo7312 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the time you put into production values. I've owned fixed lug watches, and IMO you'll need to get comfy with textile straps, preferably one-pass, because the inability of the strap to pivot on a spring bar means any other strap (leather, e.g.) will make the watch sit too proud.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Oh interesting, I was thinking a leather nato would be cool, but maybe to the contrary 🤔
@zHumanfactor2 жыл бұрын
I'm totally on board with you regarding the design clash of the Black Bay's snowflake hands & round hour markers. Which is the main reason I prefer the Pelogos over the BB.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and the new FXD is my fav 🤩
@zHumanfactor2 жыл бұрын
@@WatchCrunchOfficial I really need to try the FXD on as that 52 lug to lug scares me a bit. But for the activities I do I would appreciate the fixed lugs. I give Tudor credit for taking a chance with this FXD model as it has a limited market... which I like. :)
@BLR6532 жыл бұрын
Wow. Your video quality is just amazing!
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian!
@lukejones83859 ай бұрын
With regards to the Velcro strap flaring out, I put a rubber keeper on mine to stop it sticking out and catching on my clothing, cheap fix 👍
@bobj88777 ай бұрын
Where did you order the keeper from?
@lukejones83857 ай бұрын
@@bobj8877 Hi, just looked on eBay for a22mm navy keeper, wasn’t expensive, cheap actually.
@albolvo2 жыл бұрын
beautiful watch. local reseller has a MN21 for $5.900. thought long and hard about it and came to the painful decision that i am going to hold off and stick with my 126610ln i got from my AD a few weeks ago. if i didn't have a sub i'd definitely pick up the fxd.
@thepaulanewman56492 жыл бұрын
It’s a cool piece. Not for me, but I do like all the thought that went into it.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate it 😁👍
@emaeder182 жыл бұрын
Great review! I like your fresh take on this one
@hankim65762 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I like your videos.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Han, appreciate it 🙏😁
@MA89.2 жыл бұрын
Great vid Max and overall spot on assessment of the new watch.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate that 👍
@timelesssneakersandwatches2 жыл бұрын
Great piece by Tudor 👏👏👏
@chrisk12552 жыл бұрын
Great watch, and awesome video (as usual). Keep up the good work!
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Chris, merry Xmas 👍
@BrandonMenancio2 жыл бұрын
Kiki bouba bb58! Love it. Great video and I actually really like this watch. Would love to try it out one day.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
I'm going off the deep end with these metaphors dude 🤣
@adamwest56252 жыл бұрын
Love my Tudor FXD - you’re absolutely right, if people missed the bracelet and HEV, there’s always the regular Pelagos. I sold my Pelagos LHD in the summer and thought about adding the BB58 blue. Out of the blue my AD was able to offer an allocation for the Rolex 124060, so that cancelled the BB58. Then my AD called a few weeks later and offered the FXD - well I went to try it on and IMO, it’s an even better watch than my old LHD. Loved the fixed bar and even though it’s limited to Nato straps that’s fine. When I need to wear a watch with bracelet, l always have the no date Submariner 😎
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Damn dude, it's really Christmas for you 👏👏🎄
@wd999992 жыл бұрын
100% agree with the snowflake hand not going with the BB’s as well as the square markers on the Pelagos
@wh1chw4tch2 жыл бұрын
Damn I was on the fence about this watch, but now I think I'm sold!
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Michael! Yes this this is so sweet. Hard to think of a more well made watch with fascinating history at this price 👌
@naorgozlan6135 Жыл бұрын
They need to make it in black, bigger and thicker
@angelobalto2 жыл бұрын
Great review!! Up to the point and 100% useful
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Angelo!
@barrydonelan42842 жыл бұрын
Max great video. Merry Christmas.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Merry xmas Barry 🎄
@niccarnot41132 жыл бұрын
As a blue Pelagos owner this "lesser" version didn't really have any appeal.... but it's starting to grow on me. Every watch I own has a bracelet, this may be my first strap watch. And Tudor takes chances on a regular basis : Northflag (I miss it), LHD Pelagos....and on. Great video.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Yes, love what tudor is doing. You might be pleasantly surprised with this one 👍
@ramspencer54922 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't. They could do screw lugs as a compromise for the consumer market.... I like the square indices... Also, I'd wait for a 40mm-ish smaller size.... Like what the 58 did for the regular BB.... This isn't an ideal snowflake dial for the consumer market. There's a lot of business to be had with the right spec'ed variation....
@peterfoskett2 жыл бұрын
Great review, I love the FXD watch but I think the bezel might be too busy for me. I would love to see a comparison of the three Pelagos models as I just cannot choose between them. I am currently leaning towards the LHD.
@Vow2472 жыл бұрын
Great review as always. The new Pelagos is probably not for me. I loved Kiki Bubas duet with Elton John.
@picanha69411 ай бұрын
meanwhile rolex becomes a safequeen watch
@cksamo2 жыл бұрын
Just curious, given the tool nature of the FXD, what purpose does the dial and bezel being blue serve?
@Mike-kr9ys2 жыл бұрын
Very enlightened and reasoned review. I agree with your views on this watch. (Also a grail for me).
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael! It's a great piece 👍
@zillsburyy18 ай бұрын
love my san martin pelagos!
@edgeyt12 жыл бұрын
It's a highly attractive proposition for those of us interested in minimum frills mechanical tool watches and with mil spec pedigree (see also the unobtanium CWC RN diver reissue). I worry about the longevity of the velcro strap though, I've had velcro straps that looked great and worked great for as long as a week and then started catching on stuff and became a pain in the ass to live with and then impossible; some kind of NATO/Deployant clasp hybrid would be great imho.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Yes the exposed black Velcro catches dust bunnies and isn't great. Wonder how it works look with a leather nato 🤔
@seandrori82202 жыл бұрын
happy i found this channel! i just binged all your vid's, great stuff buddy! keep it up! I'm not a fan of blue dial's, do you think they'll release a black Pelagos FXD?
@dazlarg Жыл бұрын
I tried one of these on today and loved it on my 7 1/4 wrist.. my question to you is could this cohabit with the bb58 blue that I already own?
@Yorkshiremadmick Жыл бұрын
Just got a MN23 think it’s awesome 😎
@Canteaus2 жыл бұрын
I really dont think you can compare this watch to the BB58. The FXD is large, bead blasted modern tool watch with zero polished surfaces, whereas the BB58 is a small, vintage homage made of polished stainless steel.
@kombo7312 жыл бұрын
I think you just compared this watch to the BB58.
@Canteaus2 жыл бұрын
@@kombo731 haha....
@liambrown12162 жыл бұрын
Click bait title.
@exactmat2 жыл бұрын
Nice watch, but you cannot compare these two. The size, dial and general appearance are so different. For my smaller wrist the BB58 is just perfect. But again both are great watches
@DarthJabba5042 жыл бұрын
If they made one with bracelet, regular spring bars, less busy bezel, and maybe a date, it would conquer the market.
@wingeren2 жыл бұрын
So ... the Submariner? 🤔
@jh-il5sb2 жыл бұрын
they do, it's the regular pelagos. it comes in balack and blue dial!!
@kevinmccalister81972 жыл бұрын
No bracelet, 51mm l2l. Pass
@thewatchmission76932 жыл бұрын
Great video Max!
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Cheers dude 😎👍
@wheelsandwatches2 жыл бұрын
A nice enough watch with a better blue tone than the Pelagos blue but not a patch on the blue 58. Not as versatile and lack of a bracelet are a miss for me. Clearly all just my opinion.
@williamcoolidge98842 жыл бұрын
I prefer the BB58. And I own one.
@Romio6662 жыл бұрын
Is it kind of special edition and they would remove the MN collaboration engraving on the back case later at a point of time ?!
@danielwilliams24672 жыл бұрын
How did you find one? I’ve been looking all over the place to get one
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
My buddy who "has a relationship" got it and lent it to me 😊. The AD got 1 for the year 🤦♂️
@claudioxy31152 жыл бұрын
Beatiful watch!!
@xJuiceNationx Жыл бұрын
I for one do not commend Tudor for the fixed strap. This. This is the watch I want on a bracelet. Love everything about it. It's the right size, reverse bezel for countdown, looks utilitarian, but I cant put a bracelet on it so i wont get it. The "normal Pelagos", is bigger, and not the same in any way except the name.
@lengx.97982 жыл бұрын
One of the best reasons is a bigger wrist.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely a struggle but my wrist is on the small side too. 😅
@johnkim30502 жыл бұрын
I love this watch
@AgeofEon2 жыл бұрын
Comparing the FXD to the BB58 is less than ideal. The BB58 is loved for the insane value proposition, vintage styling, and sub 40mm case. The FXD is none of that.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Their retail price are almost the same
@AgeofEon2 жыл бұрын
@@WatchCrunchOfficial They're also priced similarly to some designer handbags but that is also a bad comparison. They're too different.
@JFinns2 жыл бұрын
Agree I'm torn between them for my next watch. Would love to see a titanium BB58 then it would be game over.
@michaelriera62772 жыл бұрын
Meh… uninspired missed opportunity. Love your reviews and channel. Happy holidays!
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
You too Michael 👍
@roelstolk39152 жыл бұрын
Dude, shapes definitely can make feels .... watchdials not the first organism that comes to mind though...😅
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Glad you empathize 😁
@cesart73542 жыл бұрын
They screwed up the lugs, size and the dial is too busy. If they can make the Pelagos with the BB58 dimensions then you got a winner.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Yes we can all dream 🤔😁
@kennetha.19372 жыл бұрын
Oh snap ❄️ 🥶
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Chilly in here 😉
@ericmoss83442 жыл бұрын
Did I hear you say that retail w/ $3900 ?? At that price point this is a no-brainer, but for what I see them selling for in the secondary market of $6K-$8K it's touching Rolex territory. Although that territory keeps getting crazily higher and higher.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Yeah dude, I'm waiting for the supply to catch up so people will stop scalping
@ericmoss83442 жыл бұрын
@@WatchCrunchOfficial I'm with you. NO way I'm paying double retail for a "as-new" Tudor.
@mauriciomucino10152 жыл бұрын
Already have!
@jeffbarnard3482 жыл бұрын
Just note that it's only a narrative, the caseback engraving is cool, but you're not buying a watch that was actually issued to the MN :)
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
We are all buying expensive narratives 😆🤷♂️
@muffemod10 ай бұрын
BB58 closer to the design of the snowflake.
@juliancooney682 жыл бұрын
Hi could you recommend a good make of NATO strap to go with this watch. I am based in the UK but happy to purchase from abroad if it’s top quality. Could I just confirm the strap width would be 22mm. I am not bothered about the cost of the NATO strap (I must be a salesman’s dream), “quality is remembered far after the cost is forgotten”. Reason for asking - I have one of these waiting at home as my Xmas present (lucky me!!), I want to be able to change the strap from time to time to just change out the look. Any help and advice would greatly appreciated.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
If you are based in the UK, I've had good impression of Adrian's NATOs at bark and Jack. I think a brown leather nato would be killer!
@MarkN672 жыл бұрын
I can highly recommend Bark & Jack. Adrian’s NATO straps are brilliant. I have the grey NATO 2 on my Seamaster.
@VenerableYorge2 жыл бұрын
F A N T A S T I C ! ! !
@austinzizzi1142 Жыл бұрын
Do you think it would fit a 6.25 inch wrist?
@WatchCrunchOfficial Жыл бұрын
That's pushing it. All depends on how much lug overhang you can handle
@idid18662 жыл бұрын
Yeah...it's sweet!
@idid18662 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the holidays🎅🏼
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Merry Xmas buddy 🎄
@teecee96602 жыл бұрын
inspiration drives innovation. cheers #tudor
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Well said 👍
@shipmate35772 жыл бұрын
I really like this, but I always buy watches with metal bracelet.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's the big drawback!
@mrbadguysan2 жыл бұрын
I’d love an FXD that wasn’t so heavily associated with the Marine Nationale.
@Sandouras2 жыл бұрын
I will wait for them to give it normal springbars and a bracelet and then buy it. Then i can put on a strap if i want to, but wont be forced to.
@Madmanmarque2 жыл бұрын
It's what Rolex was in the 50's and 60's.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Great point! Rolex up until the early 2000s were still very tooly, now it's just bling blam
@juliancooney682 жыл бұрын
I have another question if that’s ok. I have never used a single band style NATO strap. When using a single band does a watch slide and up and down the strap as your wearing the watch. I ask because I try not to wear a watch tight but would not want a watch moving about on the strap. Once again, any info would greatly appreciated.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
No the strap is pretty well pinned by the angle it goes through the hole, watch head shouldn't move on the wrist 👍
@MarkN672 жыл бұрын
No, the main strap goes through the two pins and the watch is locked in position by a second loop that goes from one side of the watch to the other.
@yaabaa2 жыл бұрын
@@MarkN67 - Single pass does not have that extra piece that a traditional NATO strap has.
@MarkN672 жыл бұрын
@@yaabaa that’s not a NATO strap, it’s a single pass.
@yaabaa2 жыл бұрын
@@MarkN67 - Precisely
@shipmate35772 жыл бұрын
I would buy it if it came with a metal bracelet.
@WatchCrunchOfficial2 жыл бұрын
That would be dope but doubt it's gonna happen 😬
@KBD-ONE2 жыл бұрын
"why you should buy" videos are pushy. Just say why you like/bought the watch.