I don’t know that in the past it was that accommodations were made for ADHD, as it is that- in those times, the work involved, - ADHD was actually functional. There was plenty of utility for both ADHD and non-ADHD neurologies.

@@LionKimbro service jobs where ADHDers thrive tend to pay poorly. A lot of people with ADHD struggle with knowledge jobs unless its their hyperfocus.

@@sp123 No I am saying- in the distant past, in hunter gatherer societies, there was plenty of work for the tribe that ADHD was good for. And that it’s not that: in the past, people were making accommodations for ADHD, - it’s that the ADHD was itself useful. You don’t make accommodations for what is useful.

What gives you so much confidence that this is the case? At least for attention disorders, since I don't understand Autism, my assumption is that society both doesn't accommodate the neuro-divergent, as you described, and develops brains with attention disorders. Do you not believe that environmental factors are causing attention disorders? Do you not think that the disparities between generations are caused by their respective exposures to technologies and psychosocial pressures? For your natural argument to be the only case, psychology, social work, neuropsychology would have to be severely wrong to a cartoonist degree. I must misunderstand your point, but you used the word "completely," which again is just too reductionist, right?

@@EnjoicoolPanda ADHD has been known about and documented for at least 100 years. If it was brought about by computers, it has no business in the records from 100 years ago. I also see kids, all with exposure to Internet, and the ADHD kids are way different than the non-ADHD kids.

Good point, Jared. Although I don't think this is just specific to the USA, it is all of the neoliberal world, as I see it very much here in Australia, too. Thanks for your insight, mate!

Haven't read any of his work but heard of him. He's a Jungian, right? And totally agree with the point about pathologising individuals without looking at social structures, which a lot of pop-ego psychology does. Thanks for the recommendation, mate!

@@RahulSam yeah post-jungian archetypal type chap

Thanks for the comment, mate! And I resonate with what you've shared about the desire for perfectionism and achievement. I've heard of Frank Ruda but haven't listened to any of his lectures, so I'll definitely be giving this one a listen soon! TC.

thank you for sharing, my friend. in the same situation as you as a college junior.

Well put... and sometimes this Can’t is destructive.

He’s brilliant indeed! Pleasure!

Good point... Anthony Bourdain's story reminds me of the Oscar Wilde quote: “There are only two tragedies in life: one is not getting what one wants, and the other is getting it.”

Sorry, my friend, but I'm totally lost on this analogy or how this relates to this video. Care to elaborate?

@@RahulSam its his hobby and its really important to him. But he's not capable of enjoying it unless he can somehow validate it in the marketplace. It's basically like the woman with the etsy store for her knitting.

"that's what makes them real." I know what you mean. Thanks for sharing. Nice anecdote.

Ah, haha! I'm glad you noticed that, mate!

"The project turned into the projectile aimed at the self" It feels like the sword of Damocles with any type of work at all in the US whether you're in the workforce or if you make a living on the internet... We don't control any of it once we sign a terms of service agreement or whatever form to free a corporation from liability... I love how Zizek is positioned between two crappy toilets... the worst choice ever for most Your tubers...ROFL It flies in the face of Western media standards. I can't stop thinking about it. @@RahulSam

Thanks, mate! I really appreciate that!

Great idea... Byung-Chul Han has the amazing ability to pack so many insights into a single sentence. Thanks, Chris!

@@RahulSam Yes it was an interesting need and resonated a lot as a remote dev / creative mess who has been subject to burnout myself lol

What is that? 😀

Thank you for the kind words, my friend!

Thank you, Evie. I very much concur with your sentiments on CBT. While I use Psychoanalysis primarily for theory and philosophy, If you're interested, Jonathan Shedler has some interesting views on the clinical utility of Psychoanalysis. Also, do you have a background in art psychotherapy?

this is why i don’t believe psychoanalysis is the answer either...it tends to fortify, instead of dissolve, the ego: ‘I know why i’m like this! i was traumatized/i have ADHD/i have (diagnosis x)’. In the modern/colonial, burnout society problem of the individual supercedes the problem of the collective (climate change, healthcare crisis, wealth disparity, etc.)

And having dreams, passions, hobbies but being made to feel guilty about capitalising them is real.

He's excellent! I will be covering a lot more of his work in the future. Glad you found this video useful!

Thanks for the comment! Personally, I don’t think we ever overcome this guilt as it also comes from our constitutive lack (to use a Lacanian term), but being aware of where such guilt comes from certainly helps. Mari Ruti has written extensively on this topic if you’re keen to study more 😀

Thanks for the kind words, and I appreciated the sub, my friend 🙏

Good on ya, mate!

@@RahulSam Whoever you are, I don't know you personally but I can say that you're one of the non-judgmental and open-minded people who is not fixated on tangible or external factors in order to learn from someone like me. Just because someone doesn't have a piece of paper as a credential, doesn't mean that person is not entitled to share personal experiences with the hope & intention to inspire others. Keep up with whatever it is that you're doing to improve mankind or improving your life even to a slight degree each day. This is just one part of a bigger puzzle for creating my KZfaq channel about holistic health. I literally could have died back when I was 14 years old due to major depression but here I am right now replying to you, a KZfaqr, who's full of fulfillment and dedication to help others to be a better version of themselves. I ain't better than anyone else but my old self. That's all that really makes this KZfaq thing more meaningful and enjoyable. Thanks so much for your support! I am hoping that you can join me with this endless personal development journey! :)

I had no idea that's what my name meant in Estonian, haha! Thank you for the lovely comment, my friend. You take care too!

Glad to hear, my friend!

Thanks! Indeed, I am planning to make a video on The Palliative Society once I have read it. I’m currently writing a script on another excellent book of his, The Transparency Society.

Thanks, mate! I'm from Australia but born and raised in Sri Lanka.

You perhaps are correct here cause the more Orthodox Marxist dogma is that material conditions influence our social reality. But what I’ve tried to do is to bring more psychoanalysis and ontologies of the subject, let’s say, to socioeconomic analyses, if that makes sense?

Thanks for the supportive comment, my friend!

Other points I feel are worth mentioning: There is a line we need to define between the sense of survival and the need for achievement. A first world country has largely solved basic survival needs such as food, shelter and water, so are you suggesting that the need for survival has a fear and anxiety, or "pressure," that has been, as you say conditioned into the individual by the pre-existing culture as a necessity? And, ADHD and depression are over diagnosed and even as far as misdiagnosed in the US. Do you mean clinical depression and ADHD, or do you use those terms as expressing general anxiety and sadness due to actual life circumstances, not a physiological deficiency? It is also very important to point out the quote, "This development is closely related to capitalist relations of production." So we go from talking about all of society being this cultural toxic positivity that comes out of the production industry of a capitalist economy. Not all careers and positions in a capitalist economy, let alone any society are production based. Because to say that capitalism has caused all the depression and other dysfunctions of society due to production based tendencies means to say that this is carried out among all facets of careers in society, which is not true. Needless to say, the presentation of ideas you discussed here go far beyond this video and I wish I could truly address every point that I don't agree with or like about the framing of the concepts because basically there's too many generalizations, and more so than not, I'm willing to say that we would find the depictions of society you painted for us here in this video based on the citations made are not fully representative assessments or articulations of the true reality of the world, let alone any given country. Too many nuances and details exist that get left out when we make these broad strokes. It's easier to digest the narratives and get ideas or points across, but by no means do I think any of this should be taken seriously because you'll find these concepts existing more true in a vacuum and not in reality where everything is living, breathing, clashing, changing and being interpreted with responses across the board. If we can reframe your ideas discussed into a spectrum, I think we'll be a bit closer to seeing these ideas with a more realistic lense and understanding that these concepts and ways of looking at the world are not fully accurate or ideal ways of digesting what is happening across the world, across various diversities in cultures and ratios of capitalist and socialist policies, dynamics, etc. I don't think it's fair or accurate to say that culture of society is in large part responsible for the depression and other disorders that exist in the individual and to put full responsibility on the culture. It's just ridiculous to disadvantage the articulation presented by cutting off a major dynamic component to the reality of what is actually going on. You're not even doing for accuracy at that point but to give life to an idea in a vacuum that largely does not exist anywhere else but in the mind of the person who sees the world in that specific way. A way to make sense of reality without it truly grasping anywhere close to it.

So actually at 6:20 you say capitalism created achievement society. Now what I would suggest is that this is not true but that the need for survival is an achievement in itself and that this drive for survival had to take on new endeavors that led into capitalism, the pursuit of a dream or a passion after basic necessities were largely commoditized into a developed society. So even that claim alone that achievement society came from capitalism is such a huge claim that I think is not accurate. These flawed statements are embedded throughout the video and are what I find to be the issue with the deper leftist thinking because it's absurdity after absurdity to the point that one can't even begin to think of where to start to address the points made. It makes me look like the fool and keeps the strength of leftist narratives going when in fact marxism and the dialectical narratives that leftists so proudly believe in actually aren't fleshed out the way they need to be. None the less, even channels like New Discourses who is really against marxist and leftist narratives doesn't articulate or do the topic justice either. I think this rooted thought of the dialectic is an inherently flawed way to describe the development of thoughts over time because many of the thesis, antithesis, synthesis dynamics that have occurred over time aren't truly pure syntheses of thesis and antithesis. It becomes another major distortion in perspective that fails to represent the actual developments over time and fails to identify and define things properly due to the inherently flawed premise.

6:50 our society does not allow for negativity anymore. This is just not true.

8:20 self-help is capitalism with a good face. It's a flawed claim is to say self help IS calitalism. Sure yes, many people pursuing entrepreneurship pursue self help in order to work on their inner self while trying to create a business. But, this is again this is not all of society. Not all people using self help or new age religious ideas desire an entreprenuers life or an online business or even feel any pressure to have a dream, and not all business owners use self help or are new age, let alone toxically positive, some of these people can be outright negative and stressed out due to their inconsistent income streams. Some buddhism and christianity influence new age beliefs and that's completely different from self help, but basically the religious texts can go as far to suggest to let go of all the business ideas or fame, so that one can enjoy family and be at peace with no need for material wealth. So you grouping all these diverse groups of thought into one and calling it capitalism that all of them are toxically positive is a false representation. I just hope you can see the broad strokes you make here left and right and the issue with these generalizations that exist in a vacuum just to give life to the false claims. Toxic positivity is a trigger word that basically can be boiled down to the point when positivity no longer logically serves the individual or group. Like being positive can only go so far until cleaning your room or house starts to create an unhealthy living environment, at that point one must practice good hygiene to survive. This doesn't mean positivity is bad and that we should get rid of positivity, but there's a decent amount of logic required to ground the positivity away from a delusional way of thinking. So you can see achievement society doesn't even relate with toxic positivity in that example. If someone fails to recognize their own short comings due to toxic positivity and yet are said to be a contributor to the achievement society term you mentioned, we can see that there's a disconnect here and that also, these ideas need to be fleshed out on a spectrum because not everyone is the same. You'll begin to see that false representation of total reality play out.

9:02 The optimized version of the self doesn't exist, it's a fantasy that they're chasing. People aren't all pursing self help out of a toxic fantasy. How can we say pursuing wholisitic health and wanting to have a healthy body being toxically positive? If you listen to exercise experts some are saying that you can burnout from too much exercise and that you don't need massive workout plans to see results in the long term. Many of these channels can go from the all-in hustle culture to playing the long game and not worrying about immediate results regarding health, diet, fixing joint issues or getting motivated again. These things became popular topics for people because people are unhappy with their lives. They want a better quality of life through improved health, fitness or intellectual capability, memory, relationships, etc. Each person has their own unique pursuit of these concepts. Furthermore, not all these people are delusional about some perfect self. Most people just focus on what they can do to improve and recognizing that we aren't perfect is literally apart of pursuing the journey of health and fitness, that failure is inevitable and we'll never be perfect, so enjoy the journey. That's something else you hear in self help, but this is not self help or toxic positivity, this is just wisdom. We all know enjoying the journey is important because you can reach the goal at the end of your life only to find out you missed out on all the other aspects of life like family and appreciating life along the way. So for many people they aren't pursing perfection, they aren't chasing a fantasy, but actually very real and tangible goals pertaining to health and personal development. Again, spectrum of people fall in all different shapes and sizes in and out of these ideas. Many skaters dont give a crap about any of this stuff, they think it's lame as hell and are happy with their life with their friends, drinking alcohol and living a simpler life, just barely make due financially, but at least the homies are together.

Agreed!

This is indeed true for being subjects of achievement society, but learning to deal with it certainly helps!

@@RahulSam let me add, helps within in weak limits. To me it seems more like being on a walk with a tiger chained to my wrist and pleading him not to pull too much. As long as there is the _infinite consumerist_ doctrine in operation, seducing people by a psychologically well worked out strategies, we don't have the slightest chance, as we can see. The tiger of desires and by commercials artificially induced needs are best left asleep and not walked through the wonderland of _you could have it all_ . The role of the populatikn bomb in connection to ever growing capitalism suggests a synchronized movement. More consumer's more wealth for the producers to be made. Consumers in return, mostly get shoddy B-products which need replacement within 2-5 years, as to keep the machinery of production incessantly going. Sorry, I don't have time now to go into this 😇👌

Would you say neoliberalism destroyed achievement as a virtue?

@RahulSam it cheapened it to the point of mediocrity. it positivized achievement to the point of burn out. i don't recognize these contemporary meanings of the word achievement, as achievement. it doesn't really make sense to denigrate the virtue, the intent is to notice and be aware that the designers (designers as a class, e.g. dieter rams, jonathan ives, architects in general) and structuralism of the 90s made finely measured and high quality achievements possible. the 'character' of achievement has changed, it has become flattened and 'every dog has his day' or 'everybody has their 15 minutes of fame'. old sayings that used to lament popularity as a goal, but really the meaning behind those phrases, was a distaste and disapproval, for an easy, unearned and low quality achievement. producing cheap and common results. multitudes of products are made now, many do not satisfy. they are retreads of old ground, derivations of basic axioms. People allowed their design goals to be defined by the medium, tools and technologies they use. nobody builds the Eiffel tower anymore (metaphorically speaking), they build lego-brick houses instead for a quick buck and an easy solution to existing problems. they didn't *achieve* much mentally or physically, they copy pasted some cubes around in CAD and paid some 22yr old construction workers to slap together a house. they did what used to be called 'doing your job', an achievement was something special and above the norm. the deeper thread to be aware of, is that people and young men will work for achievement (as a concept and a goal) if they become engrossed in it, and that can be misused. world war 2 had (some) kids dying for a shiny bit of metal, and the associated war-time achievement. byung-chul han shows that people will die for the positivity of achievement, burning out and living shallow empty lives. achievement is a 'hell of a drug' and it can produce good results via religion, philosophy or design... but this contemporary electronic-cultural form... is not good.

Life sure is...

Ah haha! Well... you can tell them to give up on their dreams then. 😜

@@RahulSam nice😁

Don't fuck it up! Don't be Anthony Robins!

Really, I only heard of him on KZfaq like two days ago, never saw his book at the stores.

Are you alright man? Take a breath and look at how you look and sound getting this upset over a man's video online.

​@@Ambrosia2830 I was writing to the owner of the circus, not to the animals

@@janpahl6015 And I suppose I am talking to a rabid dog, but everyone deserves compassion and help which is something you require.