Thanks a bunch Zoras! Can't wait for your next Ultimate guide. Those videos in particular really helped open me up to the competitive possibilities that this game has to offer.

Damn, that means a lot coming from you. I have lots of respect for you as a player, as I've seen most of your Terra stuff on KZfaq. Hopefully we get the chance to have a match some day

Nah, thank you guys for putting so much passion into this event. The production quality is seriously off the charts. Hopefully I'll get the chance to throw my hat in the rink next time ;)

Thanks for the kind words :) Glad you enjoyed the video!

Glad you enjoyed it :) I love geeking out over great game design, and Terra is a goldmine for good discourse surrounding the subject

It was a joy recording that bit :)

@@themanicpineapple8772 I could hear the emotion in your voice! It got me good.

I felt something in the core of my being while he was yelling

I really love Scythe. It's a great game, though it has certain balance issues that make it a little less fun to play competitively in my experience. I've only played half a dozen games though, so I'm not well versed enough in the meta to hold particularly strong opinions on its design. I have a ton of fun with the game regardless :)

Well... I unsubscribed from you first!

While I totally respect your opinion, I think one point the point of impasse here is in this sentence: "because the core of the game is so much more complicated, it doesn't really allow for much interaction". If you've only played Terra a few times, aren't acquainted with the meta, or haven't studied up on it, then yeah, the game might seem overwhelming to the point where you aren't having as many interactions. Complexity doesn't necessarily equal less interaction though, at least if you're at the stage of understanding the complexities of what your opponents' decisions means for you. To put it bluntly, checkers and chess both theoretically have the same amount of player interaction between the two games. In chess though, if you're a new or young player, it's easy to just turn your brain off to your opponent's moves and do your own thing. This might make it feel like there's "less interaction" than checkers because the effects of your opponent's decisions aren't as immediately apparent. But this ins't due to a lack of interaction, but rather the player's lack of understanding of the implications of seemingly banal moves. Needless to say, there's a reason that even top Catan players would agree than at least 50% of the game's outcomes happens when the board is being set up--the game just doesn't have that same depth of interaction at a competitive level. On a casual level though: I totally agree with you. Catan has the benefit of you potentially getting resources on your opponent's turns, and at a casual level, the idea of spending resources to help another player in Catan and having massive negotiations is really cute tbh. However, the reason you don't see players negotiating leech with each other in live Terra games is because, but top play has become to heavily optimized that top players understand that you don't give Engineers leech in the opening. To be clear, that doesn't mean that they aren't interacting with the game state: it just means, and I'm not saying this to be patronizing, that they aren't arguing about the meta midway through a competitive set :p Thank you for your well-worded comment, and while I disagree with you, I still admire your passion for board games--that much we definitely have in common

No worries; I respect your opinion. This video was largely made for those seeking to look at games from a competitive standpoint rather than looking for a relaxing, casual experience. Looking at your comment about people "playing the game wrong", it's clear this video probably wasn't for you, since that statement could be applied to quite literally all competitive games (ei: I think you and I can both agree that you can play chess wrong by making bad choices, but that doesn't make chess a bad game, right?). PS: regarding the "unbalanced classes", a fun thing that you can do even at casual levels is to use the auction system, which us used at competitive level Terra and is super easy to implement. Any Terra player would agree that the factions are clearly unbalanced (even after the very strong mini and landscapes expansions that help the game with balance), but auctions make it so that each player gets to choose a faction to put in an auction, and then everyone gets to bet points on it. This makes it so that you can choose a mediocre faction from the auction (eg: Auren) and still be very competitive, since you can just bet everything else down and have Auren start with way more points than everyone else. Choosing which class to bet down from the auction is a very important choice at even a casual level, and makes the game a lot more fun and balanced. Maybe give it a try on BGA with auction and the expansions in play and maybe it'll work out better for you. Either way, thanks for sharing your opinions, and I wish you a good day

I always use Catan to introduce people to Terra Mystica. I just describe it as Catan cranked up to level 10.