Why You Shouldn't Change Your Frame Bearings

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Stravaiging MTB

Stravaiging MTB

4 жыл бұрын

So you have your super slick multi-pivot full-suss uber bike, well with that comes a higher cost of maintenance. And without that maintenance, well your just grinding that expensive frame into rusty hexagons.
So you need to keep on top of that maintenance and change those frame bearings at the end of every season (or sooner) depending on how often and how bad the conditions you ride in.
So this is how to do it at home, and why you shouldn't do it.
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@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
See a bike check for this frame here! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ldipbKRnltSYaHU.html
@davidcrooks1752
@davidcrooks1752 4 жыл бұрын
Stravaiging MTB 3:14 changing the bearings once or twice a year. I know regular maintenance is a valuable tool, but surely given that most people don't ride every day. We should expect more longevity yes/no? Good vid though 👍
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
It's a hard one, a bearing sat in a frame for a long time can cold weld itself in even if the bearing turns freely. So a fresh set a season stops this and prolongs the frames life. But obviously if you ride in wet conditions and or power wash then they will need more regular maintenance. Some frames are harder on bearings than others, I have a Heckler that could turn a bearing into a hexagon in 6 months regardless of conditions!
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
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@joshuacanfield93
@joshuacanfield93 4 жыл бұрын
Overkill, if bearings are fine, don't bother.
@dewindoethdwl2798
@dewindoethdwl2798 3 жыл бұрын
I find getting the frame warm makes a difference, alloy expands & contracts at a different rate from steel. It’s a small thing that can make a difference. Mid winter in a bitter cold workshop could mean you’ve got a fight on your hands. Getting the frame to a civilised room temperature can mean a slick removal/reseating job. It’s also a great excuse to use the kitchen. I’ve even had a frame sat on a radiator as there had been a bit of alloy to steel corrosion “stickage” fighting me. Sensible heat, no more than a touch hot to the hand or you risk screwing the tempering of the alloy and your paintwork. I have limited experience of carbon frames but would anticipate a little warmth would help. Always use a little grease or “bearing seating compound for alloy to steel” when seating the new bearing, it makes removal easier. Also apply surgical levels of cleanliness to the job - no muddy bike, old grease etc.
@mikeandrews7551
@mikeandrews7551 3 жыл бұрын
I do my own work because I don't trust bike shops to do the job properly
@jonathanhowson6420
@jonathanhowson6420 2 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure my bike shop ovalised the bearing mount in my old frame. I do all mine my self. Free bearing from santa cruz is always nice too 🤘😁
@EMTB17
@EMTB17 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@DKF22
@DKF22 2 жыл бұрын
They pay kids to do the work.
@joshuacoetzee2086
@joshuacoetzee2086 Жыл бұрын
YES! I'm glad to hear others also distrust bike shops. I once took my bike in for a major service, which wasn't all that major, and watched as they used a hammer and a flat head screwdriver to beat out my bearings, breaking my frame in the process, and then blamed me for tinkering too much with my bike... After that I went and started buying every tool I deemed necessary, and started a workshop of my own.
@alkaholic4848
@alkaholic4848 Жыл бұрын
I was having difficulty with something on my rear suspension and took it to a local bike shop thinking it would be easier than trying to work it out myself. They told me i needed a new bike, that it could be impossible to repair and wasn't worth the cost. This was in the middle of the pandemic when they didn't even have a new bike to sell me. Got chatting to my neighbour about it in passing, who is much better with mechanics than me, had a look round it together and fixed it in about 20 minutes, it's been fine ever since.
@dicksplatts007
@dicksplatts007 4 жыл бұрын
Once you've got the tools and learnt the mistakes you're good to go, you don't learn anything without doing it
@walterlafleur8961
@walterlafleur8961 2 жыл бұрын
I'm here debating on whether to spend $200 on a bearing overhaul every 6 months to a year or buy the tools to do every bearing on my bike and more for less than $100. This is a great video and very informative, but it did NOT convince me to go to the bike shop.
@matth2645
@matth2645 7 ай бұрын
its an easy job and is a great excuse to dismantle and deep clean bike. Me and friends share tools also...
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 4 жыл бұрын
Well done, but I will stick to doing it myself.
@flippy66
@flippy66 3 жыл бұрын
It's always easier to use your credit card and pay someone else, but some people find it much more rewarding to learn how to do their own work. And with bikes, the best way to learn is by doing (as correctly as possible of course).
@lopon12
@lopon12 4 жыл бұрын
I can see your angle on this subject. I've built all my bikes from framesets and learning how to fix my bike and knowing whats what is invaluable on and off the trail imo.
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
Rather than what a product manager decides what the average use case is balanced with what's affordable/available at scale!
@45graham45
@45graham45 3 жыл бұрын
You're trying to make it sound far more complicated than it really is. I've changed frame bearings several times (& BB, headsrt & wheel) & it was easy. You get quicker the more you do it & the more tools you get. Recenlt got a whole selection of press tools for just £43 sent from China. Very cheap.
@ryberr311
@ryberr311 20 күн бұрын
I was searching for how to replace the bearings on my Banshee Spitfire and just happened to stumble upon this video with your own Spitty! I’m still gonna give it a go myself! 😂
@jeffreydzialo
@jeffreydzialo 3 жыл бұрын
Understandable position, you have on this topic. You just better have a shop you can trust, as shops are on the clock and love to take shortcuts. this is especially true for concealed work, like suspension... You pay for a 200hr service and all you get is a quick lower leg service, no air spring or damper work, and all non visible components are reused, if at all. At least you can blame yourself if you mess up, but you shop will not admit the shortcuts.
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 3 жыл бұрын
I guess I'm lucky where I live that there are a good number of MTB specialists shops with good reps for servicing and suspension. But trust in your LBS is a big thing.
@joshuacoetzee2086
@joshuacoetzee2086 Жыл бұрын
Took my bike for a 200 hr service, and a few weeks later found out they just over torqued all of my bolts and packed my BB bearings with copper slip instead of grease. They didn't even check my chain, indexing or wash my bike.
@KurtisPape
@KurtisPape Жыл бұрын
My bearings were cold welded into my carbon frame, had a 1 foot slide hammer struggled to get 1 side out but the other side I couldn't get out. Lucky 1 side was out and I got a bar on the bearing and hit with a large hammer but still took and unreal amount of force. It took some carbon flakes with it, I know it's too late but how could I have avoided this? I have a heat gun but I didn't use because I thought might expand the bearing making it even tighter.
@joelnalindhom9906
@joelnalindhom9906 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any idea where to get an extra set of bearings for a 2021 Giant Trance X 29 ? Great video, thanks bro.
@matthewradford3305
@matthewradford3305 3 жыл бұрын
You are so right. Which I hadn't started doing it. So difficult.
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 4 жыл бұрын
3:37 but if you plan to ride until you die, then it's worth it, so I just get the tools I need and do it my self, and my local shop is a sports store which can't do much and this means sending it off to service senter and in summer it can take weeks, so no thx to that, but there is one single shop city next door, that can do it probably, they even do suspension service, but still it's a train ride away. so I don't save time nor cash on letting someone do it for me, I can do it myself. not hard on the new bike anyway. I have the tool from RRP, which is small, perfect for this job, even your frame. I also use the drifts to hammer in bearing on hope pro 4 hubs. soon I will be installing headset, not with a 4 by 4 and a nail hammer😂 but with press👍 if I need new tools I get them.
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
I have a few home engineered bearing presses but really need to fully upgrade to a shop quality one. I have a set of drifts but again, not shop quality. your right over a number of years owning the tools and doing it for yourself is always cheaper but for a good number of riders time is more valuable.
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 4 жыл бұрын
@@StravaigingMTB travel to a proper shop, or send it in get it back, pack it all up takes longer than actually doing the work myself.😂
@richupson1319
@richupson1319 2 жыл бұрын
My LBS is an hours drive away, picked up the tools for less than 100 quid in my location it’s assuming I change my bearing at least twice not only is it a lot quicker it’s also a lot cheaper not to mention needing to take time off work as my LBS doesn’t do any service work at the week end or store bikes for customers!
@richardcarruthers4713
@richardcarruthers4713 2 ай бұрын
good advise I think. It looks like one of the hardest home machanic jobs. I would love to take my bikes to the LBS but unfortunately there isn't a bike shop around my way that I could trust and anyway I need to learn how to change frame bearings due to having 4 full suss bike in the family😬
@szymonzak6681
@szymonzak6681 Жыл бұрын
was replacing 4 bearings in my upper link and I cracked it, and they don't ship that part to my country so I'm sorta stuck deciding weather to just get a whole new frame and transfer the parts or try to get the part directly from the manufacturer somehow :(
@andrewmunz1639
@andrewmunz1639 4 жыл бұрын
im not giving up!
@dropclutch1
@dropclutch1 3 жыл бұрын
All depends on if you can trust your LBS. I have had times where just decided to DIY fix something that I just paid to have fixed because I didn't want to have to go back and wait more.
@danbrom88
@danbrom88 5 ай бұрын
100% and so annoying
@Pasdechevredreamer
@Pasdechevredreamer 3 жыл бұрын
I like your advice but I have lost trust in the bike shop where I bought my bike, after they botched my bike PDI inspection. My rear wheel fell off during the second short ride, breaking a spoke and brakes were hardly bled! Then when I tried to get them to replace the spoke the guy pushed the nipple into my rim, causing him to pierce the tubeless rim tape to recover it, I ended up buying spokes elsewhere, then got Halfords to repair the mess created.
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 3 жыл бұрын
That's a shame that you have lost trust with your LBS. I am fairly lucky that I have a number that I trust all close by.
@Adam-vm8kp
@Adam-vm8kp 2 жыл бұрын
As long as everything goes back in the same place, including the correct new bearing sizes and types, and you have a press and extractors then it’s easy. Just time consuming on some frames.
@joshuacanfield93
@joshuacanfield93 4 жыл бұрын
It's simple. If your mechanically minded go ahead, if you're not an engineer/mechanic make sure you read up from reputable sources on what damage exactly can be done (could create imperfections/ridges that lead to vastly increased bearing ware, increased likelyhood of fatigue cracks near frame pivots, creaking, bore holes that will constantly miss-align bearings and not take a bearing under appropriate pressures again, and damaging your new bearings so that they fail in weeks.) The reason damage is so easily done is because we have to press hardened steel into soft alaminium, I use getto methods on steel parts but not on my bike which is alaminium. I managed to get a good 7050 aluminium pressing set for £90 and reasonable puller set with a slide hammer for 30 (although I have ideas towards an upgrade for the pullers.) Wrapped frame in rags, gently clamped it, and pulled the bearings out perfectly straight (were ceased from the previous owner) and pressed in new ones perfectly straight. I will quickly make my money back, it's fun, I can sell the tools or replace bearings for other people, I don't have to leave my bike at a shop, and I can use the presses/pullers in other projects. 6 Wins for doing it yourself properly.
@joshuacanfield93
@joshuacanfield93 4 жыл бұрын
Just a note to say that's £90 for unbranded bearing presses straight from the factory (all sizes you could possibly need for frame or wheel bearings). Will make a video on how I pull and press bearings properly and where I source my tools.
@wbd3159
@wbd3159 2 жыл бұрын
100% correct. Of course I had already done it the hard way. If you have a good bike shop, let them take this job. Santa Cruz has free bearing replacements I believe so no excuse not to if you own that brand. Thanks for the video.
@nickryan3287
@nickryan3287 10 ай бұрын
Once or twice a year change out bearings😂 . Alot of bike manufacturers don't even reccomend that. Also, pulling bearings is a critical skill for all forms of wrenching: automotive, small engines, utilities, etc...its a good skill to learn. I will say, proper puller tools really does change the game; but you don't have to spend 500$ with park took. Any ol 2 jaw or collet style puller set from harbor freight will work just fine for
@tonyfrewin4822
@tonyfrewin4822 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I like to gradually collect the tools needed as the jobs come up. I think with care, the home mechanics can manage most of these tasks successfully but I agree it’s not for everyone.
@robertwalker841
@robertwalker841 2 жыл бұрын
my rear triangle was bent when i had my frame bearings replaed by halfords,dont think they had the right tools for the job.
@streetpigeonmtb
@streetpigeonmtb 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there. I follow you on FB. Hadn't realised I wasn't subscribed on KZfaq! That's me subbed and looking forward to checking out your vids 👍
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
Hey up! thanks for the sub, been watching your vids for a while. Good job on them and let me know if your ever riding in deeside and fancy a collab.
@streetpigeonmtb
@streetpigeonmtb 4 жыл бұрын
@@StravaigingMTB Definitely!
@keithreed5009
@keithreed5009 5 ай бұрын
Fortunately I have my own lathe and have made my own tools to replace bearings on my Trek rail 😊
@stevieg7403
@stevieg7403 3 жыл бұрын
Short term outlay, long-term recoup!
@andrewleinster2718
@andrewleinster2718 4 жыл бұрын
There seems to be a high number of negative comments here? Great video. Relaxed vibe and interesting to hear your thoughts on this, looking forward to watching some more 👊 (although the real secret to easy bearing changes is to ride a hardtail 🤷‍♂️)
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, I get that servicing all aspects of your bike is a big part of riding and that in fact suggesting going to your lbs is in fact a form of capitulation. Which I don't buy, and yes, hardtails are a big love of mine. Next video is a ride on some steep enduro stuff on one of my HTs 🤘🤘
@andrewleinster2718
@andrewleinster2718 4 жыл бұрын
@@StravaigingMTB looking forward to it man, got to love some hardtail action. My bike is a full sus but I'm the same height as my dad so sometimes steal his Moxie when he's not looking 😉
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! I have a video where I ride someone's Moxie with different wheel setups back to back. Great bike.
@andrewleinster2718
@andrewleinster2718 4 жыл бұрын
@@StravaigingMTB Yeah! I rode with you on the black Ibis for bit! Great event that was.
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
Ah didn't realise it was you!
@andrewmunz1639
@andrewmunz1639 4 жыл бұрын
i have just pulled out a bearing that isnt a bearing so now i need to make one that has never been done befor
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
Was it a bush or has something ground out in your frame?
@andrewmunz1639
@andrewmunz1639 4 жыл бұрын
it is made of chrome against chrome.it is the most stupid design ive ever seen, it dosnt even rotate 1/2 a rotation so it is worn on half the chrome,and the chrome is such crap quality that ITS RUSTING! can you think of a better lublicant than rust? ohhh,paper,no,water,no, ehh, any non-feris metal,,,,yes,realy this isnt brain sergery.The hole on the swing-arm is 20mm and 7mm wide, a bearing like a scate board(22mm) but 2mm smaller,12mm bolt,next a 25mm washer,20mmx7mm bearing,2mmx20mm washer,7X 20mm bearings,2mmx20mm washer then another 20mmx7mm with a 2mmx20mm washer with threadlock and a nut.the old bearing has lived for 770miles i reckon 1000mile if fare, i will let you know when i have it done(tomorrow),in 2001 i had my leg and arm ripped off and since then i CANT and WILL-NOT give up, if any one see this and need my help just ask.
@hemtbexperience
@hemtbexperience Жыл бұрын
All you need is the right tools by that I mean a good quality bearing press and a good quality bearing extractor, and then just take your time.
@anonymousone6075
@anonymousone6075 Жыл бұрын
The tools are cheaper than paying your LBS like half the price...
@danbrom88
@danbrom88 5 ай бұрын
​@@anonymousone6075any tool sets you recommend?
@georgiaguardian4696
@georgiaguardian4696 2 жыл бұрын
This and wheel truing are two jobs I won’t do myself if I need perfection.
@tylertreaz5762
@tylertreaz5762 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Dude, first of all..I'm happy to see a Video about this sketchy topic, and I do appreciate the way you thought it through.It's a controverse topic.. But.. I'm working as a pro-mechanic for half of my life, and have been part of half a dozen shops..and just one of them had at least a few tools to get the job done.. The other shops just used the old hammer-washer-bolt method, and there's so much to do wrong with it!! And also none of them told the customers that they're charging em for destroying their frames.. It's a sketchy topic!!
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
It sure is! I guess I'm lucky that there are 4 shops with 30 min drive of me that are MTB specialists and I know for sure have the tools. But there are twice that number which I wouldn't trust to bleed my brakes!
@travellerseko
@travellerseko 2 жыл бұрын
@@StravaigingMTB I am in Glasgow and after Covid all service charges skyrocketed. I’m still trying to find honest, reliable shop with logical prices:)
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 4 жыл бұрын
A thing to remember is to place all parts you take off in a save way, so you don't lose bolt , nut or spacer. so place in a good spot visible spot on the table or work bench mat.
@jltrack
@jltrack 8 ай бұрын
Buy specific bearing puller and fitting tools for your bike. You can often find them for under $50. My bike shop would probably charge upward of $250 for a pivot over haul. I’d rather do it myself on a Sunday. If you aren’t good with tools or dislike faffing, support you local bike shop
@michaelrowave
@michaelrowave 2 жыл бұрын
I see your point. Most people will not want to undertake this job. But I have to disagree with your assessment of the long-run, Consider this- you only buy a quality wheelsmfg tool once and after the first time you start to be more efficient. Not only that but since you have tools, maybe a spare set of bearings too- when your it creak you can fix the most likely cause immediately instead of driving it to LBS. If you own a FSR you intend to keep for years like my Camber its worth the trouble in cost savings and will add lengevity by not waiting to do important noise fixes.
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
Share your bearing swapping tips and tricks and whether or not you take the plunge or take it the the bike shop.
@antn8387
@antn8387 11 ай бұрын
I use a generic c-clamp and a short socket to press my bearings in.
@riffmeisterkl
@riffmeisterkl 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see a Banshee...
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
Such a weapon.
@TheJokerMachine1
@TheJokerMachine1 21 күн бұрын
No lbs for me anymore after some lbs mech ruined my headset putting some forks on. Had them in upside down.
@karendamgaardhansen4612
@karendamgaardhansen4612 3 жыл бұрын
best demotivating video:))
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 3 жыл бұрын
Not as demotivating as doing this task with make shift tooling!😆
@jonnywilson9117
@jonnywilson9117 3 жыл бұрын
Nah trust, while he does have some good points, it's all down to the individual. It's a cheap and fairly easy job if you use a bit of creativity. Bolts, nuts, washers and some sockets will get you 70% of the way there depending on your frame. You might not need a bearing puller, if you do it's likely you only need one on one pivot, most bearings you'll be able to press out with using a bolt that goes through the bearing, some washers a socket and a nut. It's the same to press them in. It was cheaper for me to do it myself than take it to my local bike shop. About £60 cheaper. which is being generous. IF you want to build some mechanical knowledge up on changing bearings, South Main Auto LLC is the channel. Imo. Bigger tools, different tools obviously, but the process is the same as far as pulling/pressing out and pressing back in. :) Don't be discouraged. Even if I blabbered on. Don't be discouraged to learn, even if you cock the job up. Believe it or not, "professional" mechanics make mistakes. We're all continuing to learn. Even the best of the best are still learning.
@knott4me561
@knott4me561 4 жыл бұрын
I buy the kinetic bearings tools which allow install and extract .3 sets required at £20 each .I also bought kinetic max bearings and the job was painful and trouble free infact it was a pleasure . Using sockets etc is just a recipe for disaster.but the right tools and once your done with the bike a few years later etc sell the tools and get half hour money back if they don't fit your new bike. I am blessed with the skill set and fix a fleet of bikes for the club I'm in and I did take the cyctec course upto level 2 Imo if your only ever visiting your lbs to just have your frame bearings done and don't use them for anything else ,thinks embarrassing as your giving them all the risk with little reward .
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
good tools do make a huge difference.
@alkaholic4848
@alkaholic4848 Жыл бұрын
I would if i could! All the bike shops round here are too busy, they have a 5+ week lead time for changing frame bearings at the moment ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It's a 2 or 3 week lead time just to get it in the shop. That includes the shops i don't trust much, which you're usually better off doing it yourself anyway because they do get things wrong.
@polishguywithhardtospellna8227
@polishguywithhardtospellna8227 2 жыл бұрын
Got a trek EX7 2019, just made 1st disassembly of suspension. (2 seasons in) Lucky I sat at home a lot with depression this winter, otherwise I'd be already in deep sh trying to remove bolts. Few bearings are shot, but had to stay in, no cash. Thing is all those problems (mine and your examples) are manufacturer's fault. And that is a frame that trek prices a stupid amount for. No grease on bolts, thread lock overspill, gluing bolts to bearing races, and I BET - dry bearing sockets. Frame is actually not really well made. I bet I could strip some bolts if I'd use torque that's printed on them. But as I agree with you, that it might be well worth it to give it to a mechanic, you wouldn't like to see what "experience" means. There won't be fooking about, and they won't have all the tools from manufacturer, and they will see this frame for the first time, and they won't even have all the gadget tools you sometimes need. Because bike shops also can't spend limitless amounts on tools, just like we can't. Suddenly Orange bikes became really attractive to me.
@raheemgahelable
@raheemgahelable 3 жыл бұрын
Take it to " my bike shop"?! Lmfao 🤣🤣 , let me tell you... A " wise man" once told me... " Bike shop mechanics doesn't get paid enough to give a fuck"! And guess what...He was absolutely right! I do an absolutely way much better job than any mechanic I've encountered in that specific shop, I just did an excellent job on replacing my bearings the other day, took my time to clean inside the bearings droppings, greased them with the highest grease grade I could get from a motorcycle shop! all while assuring that it'd only take me 3 hours to finish the job! Are you telling me that the shop was going to give me the bike back in only 3 hours with a hefty fee of $100 , knowing that it wasn't going to be the job I exactly wanted done? Not a chance.... Here's my advice... " Learn to be your own mechanic and your bike will ALWAYS run as new"... Mine has 3700 miles in it and it actually rides now better than it was new! 👍👍👍P. S ... That specific shop is rated one of the best 100 bike shops in North America and I'd challenge ANYONE there to do a better job than me on my specific bike ! 🤘🤘
@Adam-vm8kp
@Adam-vm8kp 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I’d have charged you less than that, done it in half that time and used the correct high quality tools. 😂
@ameraldas3641
@ameraldas3641 3 жыл бұрын
i just get a blowtorch and a make a bolt the correct size. the blowtorch expands the aluminum suspension arms slightly more than the steel bearings, then i just hammer the bearings out/in with soft mallet.
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 3 жыл бұрын
I would be worried about a blow torch being too much heat for aluminium.
@ameraldas3641
@ameraldas3641 3 жыл бұрын
@@StravaigingMTB that's why you don't heat it up that much. If you want, check out AvE's video on microwaving bearings
@Adam-vm8kp
@Adam-vm8kp 2 жыл бұрын
Running the risk of ruining the heat treat, and then knocking the new bearings in with a hammer 😂 great way to ruin your frame or the new bearings. This is the exact reason you shouldn’t be doing it.
@Bpf1893
@Bpf1893 3 жыл бұрын
All the bike shops where I live are terrible. Don’t really have a choice but to do it yourself.
@arb5287
@arb5287 2 жыл бұрын
Can't tell if he means it honestly or sarcastically.😂
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 4 жыл бұрын
you might not need to swap bearing if it's a budget frame with bushings, then that's different procedure.😂 so don't need get that expensive too just yet then.😂
@ganzeytyler
@ganzeytyler Жыл бұрын
pop them out with a hammer, or press them out with a nut, bolt, and washers. press in the new bearings using the old bearing and a nut/bolt. total cost $0.00 and an hour of your time. LBS-$100+ and a week or 2 wait... ill agree that if you dont have the most basic tools you should just take it to your lbs, because there is a slim chance you know how to use them. but for the other 90% of people....getting bearings swapped 2 times a year like you said would be ridiculously expensive. get creative, you can use random junk laying around as a die to press them in/out if needed. i didnt even know bearing cup sets for bikes existed until recently, never needed them..
@Roaming50
@Roaming50 Ай бұрын
Bike shops charge more for doing the work than the cost of the tools itself, or about the same cost. If you change bearings once a year, learning how to do this yourself will save yourself a fortune in the long run.
@kinaceman
@kinaceman 2 жыл бұрын
get a santa cruz where the bearings are in the links NOT the frame - much easier to maintain!! I wish all FS bikes were as easy to work on!
@tanja8907
@tanja8907 4 жыл бұрын
Your hair is beautiful
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
Best hair in the mtb KZfaq world.... it's a small world....
@djmystery7235
@djmystery7235 Жыл бұрын
I just use finger because am stronk
@jrclad2964
@jrclad2964 Жыл бұрын
Peace ! 🤣
@deanallan48
@deanallan48 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video but i think its well within the realms of most owners ability.
@owenbirch6188
@owenbirch6188 2 жыл бұрын
Use a punch to remove them and the old bearing to hammer the new ones in. Funny how people are so careful with their silly presses and drifts. If you have a carbon frame tho...
@Adam-vm8kp
@Adam-vm8kp 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah till you ovalise the hub shell smashing them in 🙄
@alf3071
@alf3071 3 жыл бұрын
They shouldn't even use bearings in the first place, when they get shot they are gonna act like bushings, My frame has a stuck bearing and I feel no difference in the rear suspension, It probably was a manufacturing defect because one bearing comes out by hand and the other doesn't wanna come out, I tried with a hammer I don't have a press for it
@ammoisking
@ammoisking 3 жыл бұрын
Was about to buy these parts but you convinced me not to! Thanks !!
@chestermartin2356
@chestermartin2356 3 жыл бұрын
Be a bit of money investing in the tools but they are yours for life and you can expand your skill set. Obviously idiots should use a bike shop but if you have a bit of an idea its a good job to learn
@Harrybowles1969
@Harrybowles1969 Жыл бұрын
If anyone struggling doing this just remember, there is always a bigger hammer!
@yikenscot
@yikenscot 3 жыл бұрын
Disagree, easy job for someone competent in fixing their bike, once you do a single and double bearing replacement once and successfully, you can do it again fairly easily and save quite a bit of money in the long term.
@tobyhowat8194
@tobyhowat8194 4 жыл бұрын
It's William Wallace
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
I have better hair.
@adammccarthy2157
@adammccarthy2157 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not letting some little spotty mong touch my £8000 Nomad pal..
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
If your bike shop is letting the weekend kid swap your bearings find a better shop. 😂
@SpMoose
@SpMoose 4 ай бұрын
This is the case here in Australia as well. Get charged close to 100 an hour only for it to be done by 16 year olds on minimum wage.
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 4 жыл бұрын
bearing horror stories: Trek having cheap bearings with almost no grease. Having to freeze tool, use hot tap water on frame, to undo a 10nm torque hex bolt for rocker link,chainstay pivot,, that was over torqued way past that, maybe more than 50nm? it was impossible to undo the hex key would just bend and hand hurt, that's improper assembly at factory, unacceptable, no wonder Trek do not do factory tour.😂 changing ball bearings in cheap Shimano hub, new axle and 3 rides axle is bent, probably bad tolerances in hub. Noticing the difference between tolerances of cheap cane creek headset compared to Chris king headset, much tighter fit. Once a Enduro bearing did not seem to be up to spec, as it was much tighter fit, it went in but much tighter. maybe it was the frame, and the bearings were in good tolerances or better than before, who knows, not tried to see if that was the case yet. some bearings sounding crunchy when new. But now lastes Enduro bearings I bough had enough grease, some did not before. I've seen a dude riding a bike with fully workout bearings,and crank had missing bolt so it was ''fixed'' with a big bolt used for building houses or balconies, and everything had huge play, and bike was sagging, and it survived few drops of 1 m too, I would not do that. scary to a bike in such condition. it was a Mongoose Black Diamond Double .
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
I used the hot/cold trick on my spitfire freezing the bearings and warming the frame with a hair drier.
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 4 жыл бұрын
@@StravaigingMTB I had no hair dryer, so I used a cup with tap water that was very warm, the hex I had in the freezer for at least 10 mins.
@dewindoethdwl2798
@dewindoethdwl2798 3 жыл бұрын
That’s quite an experience. I’ve a pal who does big bike tours way off piste. He’s so fed up with cheap bearings used for cost cutting (accountants trying to do Engineering) that he strips cartridge bearings off his new bikes and replaces them with aerospace quality units where he can. His other gripe is how often we get steel balls fitted in a bearing (eg pedals) instead of ball-bearings which have the right dimensional tolerances & surface hardening. He admits to being nerdy but never has bearing problems cycling in wild “no LBS around here” places.
@andrewmunz1639
@andrewmunz1639 4 жыл бұрын
i think you are to defeatist, you got to try in life and how much is the shop for 10min.
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think I am a defeatist, the time to research, source and purchase parts and tools, gain competency, make mistakes and learn before doing it right. That is time I have put into other things. Like spending time riding or with my family or progressing on other areas. Of all the mtb maintenance and bike building tasks I have attempted, I have learned from and done better with next time. But I felt that for a good number of riders (myself a lot of the time), that going to the shop for this one balanced the accounts of my time and labour better than doing it myself. I did change them myself on my Spitfire, but for the them it took a shop would have been better. Nothing wrong with hiring a tradesman when you can or need to, you are buying your time back.
@andrewmunz1639
@andrewmunz1639 4 жыл бұрын
ive come back to seen my comment, im sorry i was rude, i was trying to be motorvational, and i got it wrong sorry bud.
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
No worries bud no insult taken 👍🏻🤗
@andrewmunz1639
@andrewmunz1639 4 жыл бұрын
i was so wrong with my statments, this is a nightmare, the bush is made of an alloy of crap steel and a tiny amount of chrome, not enough to stop it from rusting, when it wears by 0.06mm at the pivot relates to 4mm at the saddle, i am going to make it from a 16mm socket,(but not today). i have spoken to amazon where i bought it from and they say the vender has to send the piece or refund the bike, which i dont want to lose my bike
@UK_MC_
@UK_MC_ 3 жыл бұрын
how depressing.
@SpMoose
@SpMoose 4 ай бұрын
Yeh it would be nice if you could trust your LBS. But at the end of the day they charge the same amount of money as qualified car mechanics without actually having s qualification. Where I live this can be 100 dollars an hour. In my experience they often are not as accountable as actual qualified mechanics\tradesmen. If you're going to be into bikes for a long time you're better off buying the right tools and learning to do it yourself. Most of the tools are cheap compared to paying your LBS the hourly rate they charge.
@Hawlkeye-e9p
@Hawlkeye-e9p 3 жыл бұрын
Ya lbs does frame bearings and hub bearings. Bb not so bad but frame ya no way. B4 u know it. 500 bucks spent. Gunna pass
@markbrown9803
@markbrown9803 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, just give up 🤦‍♂️
@adammccarthy2157
@adammccarthy2157 3 жыл бұрын
It's a simple job .........
@arthurmunnis2951
@arthurmunnis2951 2 жыл бұрын
it’s not that deep
@cancer8343
@cancer8343 10 ай бұрын
Awfull mindset! If you dont try to learn you will never learn…
@hannes6114
@hannes6114 Жыл бұрын
You dont even use a proper press
@adammccarthy2157
@adammccarthy2157 4 жыл бұрын
Piece of piss frame bearings 🙄🙄
@markdoyle6414
@markdoyle6414 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I won't buy a million pivot bike or a press fit, I've had my bike to the bike shop once since 1992, I now have five. I've kept rolling and saved a fortune and a heap of time, learn to do it, it's not rocket science.
@tmhudg
@tmhudg 5 ай бұрын
I was expecting to hear some actual reason why you shouldn't EVER change your bearings. This is just you looking out for us getting frustrated with a quirky DIY service job? Strange. I also don't understand your cost argument. You suggest paying the shop to change bearing twice a year as being cheaper than getting the tools to do it yourself? Are you only riding one season and then giving up on riding after that? SMH
@tetaizozadja7080
@tetaizozadja7080 2 жыл бұрын
so basically you made a video advising to take bike to the bike shop for bearings replacement? it’s not really a rocket science you clearly don’t know much about servicing bikes…
@Adam-vm8kp
@Adam-vm8kp 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, we get so many frames in that customers have ruined due to pressing in with sockets or a piece of wood, hammer, old bearing etc. I think you mean “servicing” 😂
@benshaw576
@benshaw576 3 күн бұрын
I dont understand why you make it sound so difficult and put people off trying it themselves, your insentive will make people spend unnecessarily and not learn for themselves, its actually a lot easier than you make out and you dont need to rely on "specialised" equipment, every bike owner should be learning to maintain their own bikes not line the pockets of overpaid mechs due to uncertainty and laziness
@barrylaing4221
@barrylaing4221 4 жыл бұрын
Boring
@StravaigingMTB
@StravaigingMTB 4 жыл бұрын
Well thanks for watch that least
@dewindoethdwl2798
@dewindoethdwl2798 3 жыл бұрын
NO - never use a drill you fool!! 😂
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