Why You WANT a 1" Type Sensor in Your Phone Camera! (PART 1)

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TEAM SGG PATREON / somegadgetguy Why you should want a BIGGER camera sensor in your phone! Smartphone cameras are evolving rapidly. Better software processing, better lenses, and of course BIGGER sensors. More than just resolution, there are VERY good reasons why you might want a bigger sensor in your phone. They are expensive though, so let's start with the good stuff! In part 2, we'll talk about the less good stuff...
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@BarryJohnson Жыл бұрын

Man, what a time to be alive. Juan can actually give us a series on 1 inch sensors that is now present on multiple OEMS handsets. Btw, I love the breakdown shots where you showed the focus plane and where the focus fell off.

@GroundedTech Жыл бұрын

All of this ^

@alexlara9781 Жыл бұрын

Hell ya brother

@GroundedTech Жыл бұрын

Looking forward to part 2. I know I want one of these 1" sensors!

@cb2000a Жыл бұрын

Yes! This is critical. We need one inch sensors in our phones! I would upgrade for that.

@kevinpitts3548 Жыл бұрын

I'm that one guy who would carry a fanny pack full of lenses to snap on my phone to get the shot I want. 😅😅😅

@dnegel9546 Жыл бұрын

🤣

@peabargut Жыл бұрын

What a fantastic intro to a series! Thanks for this video! Hoping to see pt 2 soon!

@Gabilleta Жыл бұрын

My next phone is looking more likely to be a camera phone. Having tried an experiment, like the Z Fold 3, I think I'm ready to up my camera game on my next phone purchase.

@menocorde Жыл бұрын

Hey Man! I love how you always speak truth about what real power users want. Also, kudos on the better audio!

@quarka Жыл бұрын

This video is extremely underrated !! Thanks a lot for the video

@benjamindiel4637 Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the informative content!

@TheTheShizzler Жыл бұрын

Bro, the photos in this video *chef's kiss* GORGEOUS

@anecro 11 ай бұрын

There's one big downside of huge sensors in phones: aperture. There's a reason Sony put a dual aperture feature in the Pro-I. Unless you wish to be stuck with that shallower and more intense depth of field using a 1 inch sensor, you need to have the option to control it after some point. Other than that there's only positives. I'm just waiting for the day when a phone will come along with all 3 back sensors being 1-inch, maybe even upgraded stacked sensors like in the 1 V, that gives us completely natural colors with NOBODY'S signature, 20-bit raws, improved lenses (which no company has ever focused on and they absolutely should, except for maybe Sony Xperia and now Xiaomi) and finally the ability to choose the megapixel output count (50, 24, 12 etc) to decide YOURSELF whether you prefer sensitivity or resolution.

@SpykerSpeed Жыл бұрын

Your videos are awesome. Great presenter.

@MathieuTechMoto Жыл бұрын

Can't wait for the next episode !

@washimchowdhury2524 Жыл бұрын

Please tell the disadvantages also. Thanks for the video.

@rdnax5775562 Жыл бұрын

In many cases I d prefer the deeper images, offered by these larger sensors... But we are so much trained, over the years, on having everything in focus, that I couldnt live without the more phone-traditional pictures...

@loneapple440 Жыл бұрын

Great video, great content creator

@ThroughJermainesLens Жыл бұрын

YES!!! And next the telephoto!!!! these 1" sensor oeefff!! OH! And variable aperture!!

@GadZookz Жыл бұрын

Thanks Juan! If I might ask an audio question, does it support Bluetooth Lossless?

@modal1312 Жыл бұрын

Has the background in the lab changed? Looks lovely

@purplecrayon7281 Жыл бұрын

I think you hit the nail on the head. On this point in our phone evolution, under bright sunshine, a $200 phone will take as good a picture as a $1000 phone. It's the nighttime photography that the cheaper phone will fail miserably. However, at what point is the better nighttime picture from the $1000 phone due to software processing or the bigger sensor?

@imamhassan5681 Жыл бұрын

He is doing such like a small comparison again and again and always saying 1 inch sensor Phone win 😂 But those comparison ar kinda like using microscope and comparison between sensor but in real life in our eye all others phone wins here😅😅

@SomeGadgetGuy Жыл бұрын

That's actually pretty easy to test too Purple Crayon. The whole point of being able to capture a TRUE RAW (not a Super/Expert/Pro/Plus RAW) is that we can pull the data directly off the sensor before ANY manipulation. From there we can find some trends in how a camera app might process that information. NONE of this is a mystery. All people need to do is try it, and show their work. I have a Xiaomi and a Vivo in front of me with 1" type sensors. I'm sure if I had some support, I could be persuaded to share some testing on that very topic...

@purplecrayon7281 Жыл бұрын

@@SomeGadgetGuy Yes, I would love to see the results of that testing. My confusion still remains that, when you snap a picture, it takes a few micro seconds for the picture to appear in the folder where you can then view it. So, did any software manipulation/processing happens during those micro seconds, even if the pic is saved as RAW?

@Kizarat Жыл бұрын

I decided to buy a dedicated digital camera, the Panasonic Lumix GX85, instead of a phone with high spec camera and the experience feels more rewarding. I currently have an LG G6 and I'm thinking of upgrading to either an LG G8 or Samsung S10e for the compact size, headphone jack, microSD and better cameras for those quick miscellaneous shots in manual mode. I was considering the Sony Xperia 10 IV and 5 IV but my main concern with Sony phones is the limited availability of repair services for them.

@crovian1985 Жыл бұрын

I may be in the minority here but depth of field doesn't always look good ,some shots it actually ruins a photo

@kaliphs22 Жыл бұрын

What are your thoughts on the find X6 pro

@thatdude7170 Жыл бұрын

The thing with phones is that they're pretty great at the 23-25mm equivalent focal length of their main sensor (which is gradually getting even wider due to larger sensors), but once you go to any other focal length where you have to use the aux cameras, especially on the tele end, the quality is not even comparable. What annoys me about a lot of the phone vs dslr or mirrorless comparisons is that they pretend like photographers are perpetually using 24mm for all their shots, which couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, 24mm is pretty far from an ideal focal length for portraits and photos of people in general, who are probably the most frequently shot subjects on smartphones.

@CockpitScenes Жыл бұрын

Good video Juan. Too bad we can't buy that phone in America...

@SomeGadgetGuy Жыл бұрын

Even more important to let folks know what they're missing. We'll be two years behind before options start showing up here...

@dnegel9546 Жыл бұрын

whats with sony not using the 989 sensor on their own top phone? 🤔 but still charging the same price as the phones that do have that sensor sometimes more.

@SomeGadgetGuy Жыл бұрын

What other phone has 512GB and a memory card, has a headphone jack, has an actual zooming telephoto lens, and has high speed readout sensors for 4K120 across all three rear cameras.

@nikytamayo Жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this. Pretty sure my next phone will be a 1". So far, Huawei has been able to hack some of the difference with a wider F1. 4 aperture on the 1/1.56" on the Mate 50, but it still suffers in terms of raw detail and low light versus the older 1/1.28" Mate 40 Pro. I've been impressed with the pixel level quality of the Xiaomi 13 Pro, even if the software and color aren't quite there yet, but I'm itching to see what the other upcoming 1" babies can do!

@davidletterboyz Жыл бұрын

I suspect that is likely due to the Mate 40 Pro's Kirin DSP. The Mate 40 Pro's 1/1.28" sensor @ f/1.9 translates to a full-frame sensor @ f/6.72. FYI, the Huawei Mate 50 Pro's 1/1.57" sensor @ f/1.4 has an eq. of a full-frame sensor @ f/6. That's a respectable aperture, and is still larger than the Mate 40 Pro, and also the iPhone 14 Pro's 1/1.28" sensor @ f/1.78, which translates to FF sensor @ f/6.3.

@nikytamayo Жыл бұрын

@@davidletterboyz It is indeed impressive in terms of aperture! Only wish you could manually fix the aperture in more camera modes than Pro and Aperture. (you can't manually set it in Auto Video, High Res (Ultra Clarity) or Night modes)

@fpl_bailey Жыл бұрын

this is the standard that I have been waiting for... none of that megapixel race nonsense

@falk3nn Жыл бұрын

I hope the imx989 n future 1"+ sensors come to smaller phones. the camera on the x90pro+ is sooo damn good but it's such a hefty beast as an every day phone. same with the 12s ultra, its a whopper. would love to see the 989 in a smaller device some day.

@SomeGadgetGuy Жыл бұрын

Same. Especially in a smaller THICKER phone with a tank of a battery...

@rudy199020 Ай бұрын

Vivo x100pro

@yash_kambli Жыл бұрын

Bigger sensors are always desirable and so does 1" type but why can't we have a true bayer sensors like one found on a sony Rx100 or canon G_ series? Imo quad bayer sensors are just gimmick. Another thing is lenses and post processing still does require huge improvements ( I'm craving for lumia 808/ 1020 alike photos) and lastly addition of variable aperture, mechanical shutter and xenon flash won't cause any harm.

@djdante Жыл бұрын

I'm a very avid photographer and decided to get a 12s ultra with 1" sensor for my daily driver phone - and I have to say that I'm extremely impressed with it... There is a caveat that many non-photographers should know though... The software just isn't as smart as on more common top tier phones like apple and samsung... Meaning if you just grab the camera and shoot a shot on auto mode, it MAY be better, but it often won't be better than you'd get with it's competitors... BUT when you go on manual mode and shoot a smart raw image for youself with the 1" sensor, then no competitors stand a chance. So someone like myself who always shoots in raw, can have a field day with these far superior sensors.

@SomeGadgetGuy Жыл бұрын

That's the deal with a LOT of phones. At least Xiaomi's telephoto isn't straight up lying about AI mooooooonzooooom 😅

@AlexandreSilva-kc6kc Жыл бұрын

I had a 1/1.5 more than 10 years ago, the Lumia 1020

@SomeGadgetGuy Жыл бұрын

Yup. Have that on my desk in front of me now. Now we have true 1".

@SatongiFilms Жыл бұрын

some phone oem just needs to add interchageable lens mount already

@eemix Жыл бұрын

As i say, if you choose a phone by it's camera capabilities, choose the one which can produce photos you are gonna keep, and by saying keeping i mean you will print them to an album and not storing in a hard drive. You won't do pixel peeping to enjoy their quality against an other smartphone.

@glsracer Жыл бұрын

When I can get a 1 inch sensor in a phone that covers 24 to 70 mm in FF terms at f/1.8-2.8 in a slim package then I will abandon my smaller M4/3 kit. That said, I doubt that a phone will replace my G9 and PL 10-25 f/1.7 anytime soon.

@blackboxmobile7106 Жыл бұрын

See, this is why you're the best...

@bassandtrebleclef Жыл бұрын

Crazy to think the 1 inch sensor was a big part of what made the Sony rx100 series THE point and shoot worth getting as recently as yesterday. Now? Why bother?

@ivaneberle3972 Жыл бұрын

Aperture, in a word

@FAT8893 Жыл бұрын

Sensor size > Megapixel all day long. There's no point bragging about a large three-digit Megapixel camera sensor when its effective pixel size when binned is not any bigger than a native unbinned RGB camera sensor. Also, bigger sensor size gives in more light and more detail.

@fendykusumohadi Жыл бұрын

S23 Ultra 😍😍😍

@travisbloomfield303 Жыл бұрын

@JimIBobIJones Жыл бұрын

How much of the sensor is actually being used? Is it 100% coverage or - like Sony - are they limited by the size and position of the lens?

@SomeGadgetGuy Жыл бұрын

These new phones are using the whole sensor.

@JimIBobIJones Жыл бұрын

@@SomeGadgetGuy great to know! These 1 inch camera phones are starting to get very tempting... The "holy grail" camera phone - that can actually replace a higher end compact camera like the Rx100 or G5x - seems to me in sight of actually existing: The Sony 989 has brought real 1 inch sensors to smartphones, Huawei has sold a phone with a 10 stop aperture and the Sony pro i has proven its possible to use real glass (as opposed to silicon) elements in smartphone lenses. If only one of the big phone brands would hurry up and put it all together in one package...

@SomeGadgetGuy Жыл бұрын

We're getting closer and closer!

@jasonmcmeekin2214 Жыл бұрын

Sensors with out lenses too take a photo what do you think of that Mr gadget guy

@v.h Жыл бұрын

@Juan what are the current 1” phones we should be looking at that can be obtained in the US to work on US networks? Sony only or are there others? Also I mean more networks than just TMO.

@hectortorres4393 Жыл бұрын

Next part?

@tyre536 Жыл бұрын

Loving the camera on the Xiaomi 13 pro now that i got it working on ATT lol

@dnegel9546 Жыл бұрын

how?

@MobilePhotoObsession Жыл бұрын

@@dnegel9546 I opened a Att account and told them to use my s23 ultra IMEI on the account to open the account and I took the SIM card out and put it in my Xiaomi 13 pro and it worked instantly but doesn't work on Mint mobile and barely on T-Mobile

@MobilePhotoObsession Жыл бұрын

@@dnegel9546 also it's the Global version

@PsychMan Жыл бұрын

And here I am waiting for my X90 Pro to come in... Because I want to shoot with said sensor.

@247noc2 6 ай бұрын

0:53

@z352kdaf8324 Жыл бұрын

1" type. Anyways, you left out the Sony Xperia Pro-I with 1" type sensor, w/ adjust aperture f/2.0 & f/4.0. Not to mention with microsdxc card slot. I have 1.5 TB on my phone.

@SomeGadgetGuy Жыл бұрын

I didn't forget anything. That lens crops the usable surface area of the sensor closer to the Pixel 7. It's functionally a 1/1.3" sensor.

@hausofjulian Жыл бұрын

Didn't know 1" sensors can strip trees of leaves 🤯 /s

@saswatmeher05 Жыл бұрын

I hope pixels use 1inch sensors soon

@SomeGadgetGuy Жыл бұрын

Given Google's partnership with Samsung, and this being a Sony sensor, probably not in the next year or two.

@fpl_bailey Жыл бұрын

Sony rx100 line of pocket cameras has **left the chat**

@rmika9229 2 ай бұрын

A real camera always better then smartphones. But smartphone good for snapshots

@JH-tk8gk Жыл бұрын

1" does us no good if all the good 1" sensor phones don't work on U.S. carriers.

@SomeGadgetGuy Жыл бұрын

Funny... There's this whole other world of people who get all these fun gadgets... Like, how roughly 70% of my audience lives outside of North America... Seems like folks in NA need to be better educated about what they're missing...

@JH-tk8gk Жыл бұрын

@@SomeGadgetGuy It’s the 90’s and early 2000’s all over again. For the longest time the best tech had to be imported. Nail the focus and detail on my spastic 6 year old in auto mode and I’m happy fixing everything in post. Sony is so close….

@Dicktopus Жыл бұрын

I don't know why, but Samsung S series shutter speed is far worse than it's competitors. Absolutly bad for photoing children or pets.

@SomeGadgetGuy Жыл бұрын

Oh, the shutter lag has CONSTANTLY been a thorn in the side of Galaxy owners. It's processing so hard, it slows everything down. There are some ways to minimize it, but no way to truly catch it up to speedier phones.