Well I haven't yet watched the video and I just commented that basically yes......... In reality we can communicate there's just a massive delay It's not ideal but.... In the future in theory we could entangle particles and somehow measure them to move messages.... In theory....... And I mean we are heading the in the right direction... Quantum computers aren't there yet but the potential exists....

@@donotlike4anonymus594 ??????????

@@dazza2350 what.....

*best

@@dazza2350 lmao what

lol

But you grew up a long, long time ago

Grew up in the 80s, so I got this!

You wouldn't survive in my universe Palpatine.... 💀

I remember those days. There were much cooler toys back then. 😂

Earth: *_Triggered_* Mars: _You can no longer send messages to earth._ _Click here to find out more_ Mars: *panic*

This is how Genocide happens.

They say it'll take between 15-30 minutes... (Very rough estimate... But yeah most say 20) and keep in mind it's a 2 way issue it'll take the message the time to travel to mars and as much time to travel back.... Not to mention we have to account for the planet' s rotation and position for both earth and mars (Well I mean I guess that depends on how we send the message... Lasers would be great but require a lot of accuracy... More traditional ways of communication like radio signals etc will spread out more so u know....)

so Mars will be populated by American teenagers.

Obviously 40mins, not 20mins

Faster than downloading a game through the EA Origin engine

@@yeetghostrat too bad I got battlefield 5 on sale(It took a literl week for gta to download)

@oH well,lord! I make 3 when I'm alone

That reminds me of 10 years ago....... 10 years ago!!!!!

@@tylerindersmith5480 well that reminds me of today so

Facts!

I feel like we’re living in the jetsons or something technology has gone absolutely wild in the last two decades or so

And it's only going to get wilder, faster.

We're going to surpass the Jetsons in my lifetime.

We don't have this problem, we're making it a problem

Check your Earthling privilege

Yet.

And you never will. Even less to worry about😉 We’re gonna get there some day but we’re not gonna pull off living there. We couldn’t even get Biosphere to work. On Earth.

Jeff Byrnes on the contrary, they colonised mars back in the 50s... they have constant contact with earth, but radio waves and jet propulsion are a joke to keep people distracted... can you guess how they travel and communicate?

Heehee :)

what haha where is that?

Same bro, Mars has better internet speed than me (cries in a corner)

Fr

...you seem to be very keen on having sex. Mind you that a roundtrip to Mars means having to abstain from it for at least a couple of years. In other words, if you insist on it, I'm afraid I can't understand you either.

@Nathan Zhang ...MY mind? I'm not the one with numerous children

Difference between your version of an 'explorer' and a scientist conducting theoretical work? Nothing, scientists often also dive into the unknown and discovery awaits before them. Why not just be happy with that?

How about because it would make you selfish to leave a family behind.

Idgaf

I love the idea of moving abroad. Sadly I'm a high valued target for England to want me. Though I feel like someone has to sweep and clean the Martian Facilities, they'll want me... Right?

“Expanse” ☝🏽

I need to get caught up on that show.

@@alexsalinasvega3765 bloody autocomplete

@@joescott how could YOU be missing out ?

@@joescott The character named Holden acts exactly towards the alien tech as in the first season. And acts exactly unlike he had this dramatic ecstatic experience of having a civilization download all their knowledge into his brain. You know, the thing they spent three seasons to get to. People who desperately needed to like it, apparently can ignore little things... like the plot. Because #edgyscifi

haha!

LMFAO

Did Google reply with _'Did you mean "NO COMMUNICATION THEOREM"?'_ (in the same volume)?

If the cat don't shit you must acquit.

If the cat had a twin that was of the opposite gender and no one checked the gender. Twin1 goes to Mars. Twin2 stays here. No poison or death required! Check the gender of your cat at any time. Do you know if the other person has observed the gender of their cat? No information can be communicated.

@@kellyjackson7889 PERFECT!!!! LOL

So the Mars orbiter bandwidth.. Is typically better than the connection I get on a bad day.. For a single satellite though.

@Rupert Bruce its 2020 though so you will have to ask your cat what gender it chooses lol

Use email, no matter how bad the internet it will always not take weeks or months

@@MenacingPerson Great tip. Who had even heard of e-mail, right??

@@ankitmathur5113 yeah ikr

I just started watching it today, and then I caught up on Joe and saw this video! It's great!

Dude i loved the series.... but really only the latter 3rd of season one, season 2, 3, and 4 at 1.25x speed. 5 was so boring- so boring.

Same 😔😔

They used an advance plot drive to achieve this. It's manufactured by the same company that provides protagonists with the incredibly useful and durable plot armour as well.

@@totalermist plot technology is the most advanced technology known to men.

@@totalermist aah I see.

"Because movie"

He also falls into a black hole and survives... They did their best lol

Because who wouldn't want to live on a planet which has a habitat that is completely under human control, doesn't have war, famine, trivial conflict and the like? Jeez, I hope you dumped her four hours and thirty minutes ago. You can definitely do better, mister.

@@whatsupbudbud Yes, but also it is a barren rock with a deadly atmosphere... I mean, who wants this when you can live, lets say on Hawaii?!

@Enclave Soldier Haha exactly. Mars is essentially in a state of perma-famine. I sympathise with OP if his wife was always making him move and yet would never move for him, but moving cities is hardly comparable to changing planets. Try setting up home first in the relative paradise of Antarctica, and see how that goes

Considering she's the one who kept the two of you changing addresses for the sake of HER career, I sincerely hope YOU got to keep the last house.

It is you both who are oversimplifying it, buddies. The biggest risk to any human is another human, not the environment which is pretty stable both on Earth and on Mars. Living here without other humans would be a breeze but we're all here aren't we? Mars will have only the best of the best, so very marginal human risk at worst. Other concerns you mentioned are negligible as they can be resolved by engineering. That being said, I do realize that most people are chickens regarding novel things until the masses are into it, so can't blame you for, well, being human. Sure glad you both won't be the ones going to Mars to fuck it up, lol.

All the inner planets would be engulfed by the sun by that point

Mars: Hey, Earth... have you noticed the Sun going supernova? Earth: [is gone]

@@Rain593 No it’ll be in 7 billioN

The sun doesn’t have enough mass to go supernova. It will become a red giant and constantly lose mass as it expands, eventually resulting in a planetary nebula.

@@unocoltrane2804 It doesn't even matter if it expands to earths orbit, the suns energy output will constantly increase and ina few 100 million years it'll be too hot for live on earth.

that movie also came to mind. I found out it was a horror movie the hard way.

he,s young.

Joe has to be older than I am [35].

And even there they did this already being in space.

Joe just wanted an opportunity to point out that the astronauts in the movie were talking about worm holes after they were on their way. You'd think that would be topic #1 in training back on earth.

Glad I’m not the only one!

joe needs to go watch stargate xD

And before also, in "Event Horizon"

Kree!

@@KaraKobold it would be good for him

mine is 2Mbps

Mine is hopefully HOPEFULLY that is when the network signal is strong around 1.5mbps

Jokes on you, mine is 3.5Mbps

I used to be on 3Mbps, now I am enjoying the giddying highs of 10Mbps.

Just speed checked mine. I am 100% cellular. 4G-LTE. Whole house runs on cellular data. TVs. Internet. Security cameras. Etc... 100+ Mbps D. L. 10 + Mbps U. L. All hail Verizon 4G LTE 😂 And 5G is supposed to be faster? WoW!

Should have used "Short answer, yes with an if. Long answer, no with a but ."

Strongbad agrees.

Thank yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooou.

it’s crazy how fast zoom replaced skype

@@aphrog649 skype was never that good

Skype did work over modem links. Dunne if Zoom would

Well, you're not wrong. Sadly.

@jody dymun all of them!!

Except Velcro. That was clearly a Vulcan invention.

@@davidanderson_surrey_bc Nah. Velcro is a Vogon device. A sort of byproduct of their intergalactic highway construction project for a hyperspace express route. Or maybe it's Ravenous Bugblatter Beast dung. Or both.

@@davidanderson_surrey_bc Man I need more seasons of Enterprice...

ba dum tss

Ain't that so very true!! We don't even know if there's life yet microbabrel or not.

@KZfaq, please enable landscape oriented comments. Due to my cracked screen, I can't tell for sure if @Steven Feagley said "microbabrel" or not.

@@stevenfeagley3227 *microbabeivel

right? what if they're just good at hiding

Yeah sadly it is an all to real possibility that we find out their had been microbes surviving on Mars eking out an existence on their dead world and then we fing kill them with a combination of all our Earth germs and particularly due to us stealing their water. There is after all interesting atmospheric disequilibrium phenomenon on Mars like produced by life on Earth a characteristic only shared with Venus plus with a much lower degree of confidence Titan and interestingly Neptune(but not Jupiter, Saturn or Uranus as far as we know) Given the ice shell worlds of interest lack atmospheres this is every generally considered possibly inhabited worlds. Neptune at least has the life candidate moon Triton constantly erupting material into its atmosphere which could account for that signal if Triton is inhabited (plus given billions of years and the existence of Neptune's "bottomless" mostly water ocean, with stuff like ammonia methane and hydrogen sulfide mixed in it, it is possible for secondary colonization if life as we know it formed on Triton. ) Welp got distracted again point is I'm worried Musks rush to Mars is going to sabotage our chances of looking for and if it exists studying and preserving any Martian microbes.

If it’s a microbe then it’s had billions of years to evolve. Screw them. They had their chance. Evolve or die.

@@doubleheadedeagle6769 Yeah because life on Earth immediately evolved to complexity under sustained fairly stable conditions... >_> Mars's hospitable eon lasted maybe a billion years at best while life on Earth took more than a billion years to evolve oxygen based metabolism and then roughly two bursts of multicellular organisms separated by well over a billion years (closer to 1.5 billion years of separation) between the Francevilian biota 2.1 Ga to Ediacaran biota(635-542) www.manospondylus.com/2020/03/solved-and-unsolved-fossil-enigmas-part_13.html Evolution of life on Earth especially on long timescales largely comes down to chance consequences. For instance the disappearance of the alluded Francevillian biota while poorly constrained does fairly closely fit with the timing of the Vredefort impact structure which is the largest surviving impact structure we can positively identify which impacted into the outlet of a river delta into a shallow bay like environment surrounding the impact structure that environment ironically only was preserved because of the impact burying it deep underground. Either way this impact basin indicates the impactor was significantly bigger than the Chicxulub impact For reference the Chicxulub impact is the third largest impact preserved on Earth. Sudbury was the second largest which some researchers tracing elemental anomalies in the structure suggest it was probably a comet unlike the other two but I don't believe this has ever been confirmed) Fun fact if adding up all the known impacts and extrapolating current micrometeorite rates back in time(a bit hard given that we now know these rates are episodic rising and waning from celestial events within our solar system) but under those criteria these big 3 impacts account for 90% of the identifiable material to strike the Earth. Point is this was a BIG impact less than a hundred million years after the diversification of the Francevillian biota it would have had significant effects potentially wiping out a 1.5 billion year head start of multicellular life on Earth. The fossil record says we should treat every life form as precious as you never know who or what will rise to the top and diversify.

@@Dragrath1 Tell you what, honestly I don’t give a shit personally, but if we find an earth like planet out there some day , do you really think anyone will care about the potential in a few microbes? I bet they won’t.

didnt the netherlands already have phones in the 50s?

@@aitor.online international calling was expensive back then

@@garrysmith1029 more pricey than flying??

Except that England and America are on the same planet and no known laws of nature needed to be broken to change this.

@@totalermist it's true but you kinda got wooshed

This. They'll eventually find a way to do the impossible. With the exponential rate of technological improvement over the past 300 years, we will figure it out pretty damn soon.

@@peterj-s6421 I totally agree with you, I would say about the next 30 years or so we will have that technology

@@peterj-s6421 Yes, we will do the impossible with technology: dividing-by-zero generators, 2+2=22 machines, true=false logic circuits and arriving-before-you-push-the-start-button travel the last one also known as FTL/faster than light (remember that light speed is infinite from the perspective of the traveler, it only takes time from the perspective of the onlooker - time is relative)

good one

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣👍

😂😂😂😂

Oh man I needed this joke thank you so much

That is actually why I want to go to Mars. Thousands will byte into red sand but imagine those few who survive . In Germany we ask ourselves what is harder, my head or the wall? I have been talking to those who survived. Imagine they all did - that is why I could talk to them in the first place. Same will happen on Mars.

Nah not really. An Astronaut with a shovel and a microscope can do more in one day than all rovers have done in 30 years

Dusty cold radioactive shithole.

I've also heard that Martians are dicks.

@@N0lan83 and what is it that needs to be done so quickly?

@@pegleg2959 Answer fundamental questions about the origins of life and the roots of our existence.

We could burn the tea.

It depends how good the Martian coffee is.

First they'd have to dredge themselves a harbour. Although the Valles Marinaris would make a very good alternative.

@@MattOGormanSmith Hey, that's actually not a bad idea. If they can construct appropriate greenhouses, then maybe the lesser Martian gravity could produce a very interesting coffee blend. Or the same goes with other crops. Just being able to offer your Earthside dinner guests some genuine Martian agricultural products would be a real social upper.

Well unless Mars leaders has orange hair...

the united states never fully settled its land mass until the last century or so. Also its no where near cohesive. Some areas attempted to leave the union every few years. Have you ever stood A midwesterner, a new yorker, A texan and a Michigander in a line? it would be five minutes before a bloody brawl broke out. We don't even speak the same dialect in any of these places. edit:typo

@@jamesbonn2394 That's why I added the 'relatively' there, and why I only said the United States was the 'United' States 'a few decades' before functionally instant communications (aka telephones) were in widespread use. My point really was that the USA was a country, with a centralised government before instant communications were easy. If you want to, though, a lot of individual states are larger than some countries, and those too existed, more or less cohesively before instant communications were possible.

I agree. Plus 44 minutes is not that long to wait for a text message reply, I have lots of friends that I write with about once a day, sometimes they reply next day. But we should consider that *we* on Earth now have instantaneous communication with each other as well as internet access while they don't take part in that with us. I think that's kind of what Joe might be referring to. But still: Just be aware that your Martian friends are a bit more 90s. I don't think it's going to be a huge deal, especially given that I think once they've established a proper settlement that is more permanent than say the ISS in terms of dependancies etc., they will have a strong motivation to come up with some form of internet access, creating their own network and content and probably agreeing on what data they want to sync from Earths servers. Also they might take a lot of entertainment with them which admittedly is a few years old by the time they consume it, but except for live events and live streams, most of our entertainment doesn't happen in real-time, either.

Who calls anyone anymore anyway?

So THAT'S what it is.

Thanks for mentioning that. I didn't even notice it until about the halfway mark.

Emergency situations? All we can give in an emergency is "helpful advice" in the best bad situation. Any other and we're sending a party to pick up the mummies. They'll arrive in 6 months to a year. At least the dehydrated bodies won't weigh much.

That thing gets weird pretty fast, when it goes interstellar... In reality Mars would depend on Earth at first for a good while perhaps a century or more, and they would be very weak and small to even think about armed conflict with mother Earth. The logical thing is to pacifically allow them to develop their own sovereign "country". Not sure how well would that works but it would be centuries in the future. According to the UN nothing in space can be claimed by any nation, but this is unrealistic. The asteroid belt might be a source of resources, but its more valuable right there in space rather than on Earth. I think some vanity stuff like gold could be brought, which would collapse its price on the markets, so... kinda pointless.

@@freeculture In the series the Martians are an Earth colony for over 200 years before they gain independence.

Everybody always seems to miss the Expanse. It's the most realistic. deep, evocative, relevant to our near term colonization of the solar system series ever made. The factions featured, with twists, represent all of us today. With awesome characters and story! You can watch first 4 seasons free on Amazon Prime, a little gift from Jeff Bezos - who is a huge Star Trek fan. Seasons 5 and 6 coming.

@@freeculture To give credit, Mars in the Expanse was Earth's pet until the Epstein Drive.

@@freeculture ...in general, claiming that Mars' colonies will some day go independent, seems analogous to Antarctica scientists going independent too. Unless Mars is "terraformed", Martian colonies will be dependent as hell to Earth. And accomplishing such feat (terraforming a whole planet), will probably take THOUSANDS of years - if it will ever get done at all. In other words, no worries, Martian colonies' rebellions is the last thing that we should be concerned about.

That's why we can't let them have nukes.

Currently the idea is that Mars will be independent from the start. Since a private company (SpaceX) will colonize it, not a nation, and nobody thinks the existing governments are any good. Then of course the US can find an excuse to "export democracy", and Mars won't be able do defend itself. Especially when for the first 50-100 years it will need supplies from Earth to survive.

@@andrasbiro3007 Space Force was founded for a reason. It's the ones with the biggest guns who are calling the shots and there's little a group of colonists can do if the Pentagon decides to drop a few squads of literal space marines on their butts...

Honestly this is why we need to get a system in place for peacefully letting space colonies ease into having their own autonomy and eventually becoming their own nations. Because if not, it will be the revolutionary war all over again, and people won't have learned from history whatsoever. The issues that led to that war were due to distance and communication delay leading to wanting your own autonomy from a big government that was culturally so different from your own, and couldn't understand you from that far across the ocean, to the point where it was better to govern yourself, all issues that will play out again in space.

@@totalermist Jeah totally. Like the squads that where dropped on the research stations on Antarctica. Someones gotta show them whos BOSS. MURICA

Same here

And still the gloves in the boxes isnt correct . Only the receiver of the one box knows the outcome , he has the right glove and presumes the second box has the left glove ? The sender knows nothing until the second box is opened and he sees for himself that his box holds the left or right . What if the receiver lies about which glove he has received ? The sender would be forced to assume his box holds the opposite of what the rec' said ? Correct ? Then opening the box and verifying it holds a left or a right glove ? Hugely different than quantum entanglement of atoms or protons or whatever . Only by measuring it do you know for a fact that it is Up or Down spinning ? You dont even have to look because a 50/50 guess is just as accurate . What if box 1 held the atoms that make up a right glove and on the quantum level it can also be atoms for a left glove ? Will box 2 hold the opposite of whatever box 1 is observed to be when opened ? You can't know...ya know ?

Yes please..

I text with someone in russia who literally lives in a city which is forwarded 12 hours on the clock

Being in a different time zone isn't delay. You can still set up a call with no noticeable delay, you just have to be a bit more careful about the time

Esquilax you absolute genius, didd’t think of that

Irving Chies me as well with someone in australia 9 hours difference, just texting once a day not expecting a reply instantly

Yeah, I used 1Mbps for years. I have 100 now, but .5 to 4 isn't that bad.

Thats my home internet wifi speed . It can stream netflix!

.03 is what I'm at😂 yet I watch KZfaq at 480p

@@gtPacheko I had 100 Mbps 10 years ago...

yeah, weirdly it´s actually >10x faster than the modem sounds accompanying it would give... like. 0.03 Mbps (28.8 kbaud.) ...

Oh that's nice.. will we be able tp share screen too..?

So no online classes. Sounds cool to me.

Lol you are not going but cannot wait for otjers to go? Yep..me too!!-!

Oh, yeah!

Came to say this.

Hahahaha, true. :D

To be fair, the divide is more Red and Blue Americans against the crazy little sect that claims to be Blue but is actually communists that didn't wanna join the actual communist party.

@@EksaStelmere well you also have the facist's that pretend to be republican, both of these are inevitable with a 2 party system (created by first past the post, the worst voting system imaginable)

@@ckkitty I'll contend the worst voting system imaginable is either the "Fidel Castro always wins" one they used to use in Cuba or the "The people elect their community leaders who elect their provincial leaders who elect their country's leaders but it doesn't matter because everyone still follows the orders of the Communist Party Secretary anyway so it's all just theatre" one they use in China. Direct democracy also sucks, but it's still better than literally every "democratic" commie state.

@@EksaStelmere not really a voting system by that point

Yeah I thought of Event Horizon aswell

Was hoping to see this comment!

They did use a porn centrespread though. That clip would probably distract from the larger narrative.

@@ABrit-bt6ce Oh yeah, Weir calls it an "attractive piece of paper" - lol!

Creeping action at a distance... Sorry just a joke :D

Please have this 🏆 for winning Internet comment of the day.

Just made my morning. Thank you.