Common mistakes of scoop in Treflips / Shove-its. Analysis on the lightness of tricks.

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2 жыл бұрын

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Especially for those who are learning their Treflips or shove-it’s, it’s important to understand why steezy Treflips are possible.
Being able to steezy Treflip can be translated as “being able to time it right.” In this video, we study h ow proper timing makes it easier to flip our boards.
Please take a moment and try to study this in detail.
I'm trying to eliminate subjectivity from my explanation as much as possible by referring to scientific and physics theories. Please use my 3D models to solve your "why."
#skateboarding
#treflip #trayflip #360 kickflip
#howtoskate
#スケートボード
#トレフリップ
#3D
#blender
#three.js
Traditionally, skateboarding how-to videos have always been subjective and the majority of explanations are based on speakers' experiences.
To avoid relying on my personal experiences, please fully utilize the 3D models.
All skaters have different questions.
So that you can analyze skateboarding tricks in detail and solve your "whys," those 3D models are made fully interactive.
The 3D models feature these functions below:
- change camera angle
- adjust play speed
- change transparency
- display gridlines, etc.
Aside from that, I try to explain concepts of skateboarding tricks based on facts, calculations, scientific and physics theories. I may make mistakes so please leave a comment if you find anything.

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@Laurap01 2 жыл бұрын

Finally, a skateboarding tutorial acknowledges that you have to jump BEFORE you start your tricks.

@magortom 2 жыл бұрын

It is rare to see that mentioned, however I imagine maybe it's because for a lot of people who aren't used to whatever trait they're learning it can be confusing considering in real time most aspects of a trick feel simultaneous as opposed to sequential

@DScapo0 2 жыл бұрын

Took a Japanese man too XD

@cosmicmirrorstorm1797 2 жыл бұрын

Been asking skaters this question for years

@allhxrt 2 жыл бұрын

Like 223 😌

@miguelmota5447 Жыл бұрын

@@magortom what u talking about are te thiferent olies tecniques, u can pop an high olie without jumpiing, or u can just higher and do a ittle olie, these are the xtremes

@justkarl9262 2 жыл бұрын

Can we just take a minute and apperitiate how much effort he put in this video? This is amazing.

@whythetrick 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! But I'm actually doing this for me. I always wanted to create a sort of service where everyone can share their experiences without relying only on their subjectivity. I want to change the way we pass on what we have. Otherwise, as soon as we quit skating, all those pain, blood and tears and excitement will be lost.

@justkarl9262 2 жыл бұрын

@@whythetrick amazing, you’re a gem for skateboarding, I wish you all the best. I can treflip but just from the thumbnail I understood that you put a lot of effort into this so I had to check it out xD greetings from Norway ❤️🙏🏼

@_wonge Жыл бұрын

Agreed! I love the 3D models and detailed explanations

@mstunameow Жыл бұрын

I was skeptical at first when he starts talking about gravity and crouching but he really brings it all together so that it all makes sense and I think the physics are accurate

@AvocAdo5096 2 жыл бұрын

you have no IDEA how much this helped. I JUST LANDED MY FIRST TRE FLIP 30 mins after watching this video. HOLY SHIT ITS 1:30 AM AND IM GOING NUTS BRO NUUUUUUTS 1 and a half years after standing on a board I finally land one. I sincerely thank you

@whythetrick 2 жыл бұрын

Greaaat!! Really glad to hear that. It's easy to forget how it feels after some time. Just focus on separating jumping and scooping/popping.

@whythetrick 2 жыл бұрын

but your name tho

@fabiomatos896 2 жыл бұрын

This is by far, the best explanation of a 360 flip I've seen. It shows practicing but also the mechanics involved. Awesome, congratulations!!!!!

@CobraMJD 2 жыл бұрын

Really? This seems a Pressure Flip for me.

@Flippy 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant video! There's many factors involved including posture of the hips and shoulders, and the pressure points on the board and the band of tension between them. Using blender to illustrate this is very helpful.

@ProjectASkate 2 жыл бұрын

Didnt expect to see ya here flippy. Took a long 3 year break?

@theharvardyard2356 2 жыл бұрын

I member you. Make more thps vids ya goob

@R0lphy 2 жыл бұрын

I never heard to concept of jumping BEFORE you start your trick. Even without trying it, it already makes way more for almost any trick. Thanks for visualizing it this well. Great stuff!!

@jeremystidham1809 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing man. You have helped a 35 year old skater do things he never has. Thank you again

@CallMeEsteban 2 жыл бұрын

Wait, I’ve been skating 26 years and literally have never had this thought. Thank you!

@TheDailyPush 2 жыл бұрын

Man this video was absolutely amazing!! Like really so good! Scooping when your momentum's going up is such a solid recommendation. The only part I would disagree with is the pause at the bottom, this is because something that contributes a lot to the power we can generate in a vertical jump/popping a trick are the elastic structures in and around your muscles and joints. They essentially work like an elastic band that's pulled back and released - building on top of the force you could create with your muscles alone - this process is known as the 'stretch shortening cycle' (SSC). The more you pause, the more the stored energy in the SSC is dissipated as heat. Instead, I would recommend developing the SSC and your ability to create power over pausing at the bottom (there are exercises on my channel to do this). Anyway, thanks for the vid! You gained a subscriber!

@Corn0nTheCobb 2 жыл бұрын

That's something I didn't know about. Interesting, thanks for the knowledge!

@wacamac1006 2 жыл бұрын

so like a rubber band? the longer you stretch it the more the elastic energy dissipates. I just realized why stretching helps a lot more now

@whythetrick 2 жыл бұрын

I've posted like 15 videos so far but this is by far one of the greatest comments. Thanks a lot!

@TheDailyPush 2 жыл бұрын

@@whythetrick @whythetrick Glad you appreciated it 🙏 Thanks a lot for your videos! Maybe we could do a collab some time...

@nilo_river 2 жыл бұрын

Finally! Most skateboarding tutorials don't take into account the body, the jump, the arms and shoulders.

@aramori 2 жыл бұрын

Wow you just showed up in my recommended, but this is a really fascinating channel. Sometimes I really feel like a physicist when I'm trying to understand tricks and these videos provide a nice breakdown of the physics. Do you think you could do one focusing on the heelflip flick? I feel like a lot people, myself included struggle with flicking heels.

@bernardesp_ 2 жыл бұрын

another gem as usual. what do you think about making some content on head/shoulder/vision positioning on 180 body tricks?

@whythetrick 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds good. Please let me know what you have in your mind though. I’m guessing I could make a video about “the importance of using shoulders in fs/bs 180” or something. But other tricks like bigspins or bs360s also require the use of shoulders. Any specific trick you would like me to talk about?

@bernardesp_ 2 жыл бұрын

@@whythetrick bs360 is a solid one. My doubt when doing 180s is where to put my weight during the rotation, like where is the best place to put the angle of rotation and where to look (like should i start looking foward and then land looking backwards?) Thanks for the content again!!

@christpierre 2 жыл бұрын

@@whythetrick unrelated but I can tell your channel will be big, please keep uploading

@LucasFesmire 2 жыл бұрын

Just found your channel. I’m in my third year studying engineering at school and feel like I’ve been waiting for your channel all my life. I love these types of breakdowns for tricks.

@wenquai 2 жыл бұрын

This is the most amazing skate channel I’ve seen 🤩 Please don’t stop making videos!!

@mtgguiltfeeder4111 2 жыл бұрын

Praise the algorithm!!! Great info and breakdown!! It really helps put it all into perspective when you start thinking about the physics involved. Thanks for the great video!! Science!!!! 🤘🤙

@messybessie4167 2 жыл бұрын

0:02 Idk why but I love the way he says shove-its, it just makes me smile inside.

@whythetrick 2 жыл бұрын

So do I lol. No really, sorry if my pronunciation’s hard to understand.

@macguirenelson8974 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for being the only person that actually goes in depth on the science of a trick… this video is great

@markhunstein1320 2 жыл бұрын

It's been a long time since I've seen a skate trick tip that's made me realize something I've never thought about and say "of course!" I can't wait to try this

@whythetrick 2 жыл бұрын

What a great compliment. You are very welcome.

@pat7917 2 жыл бұрын

You keep these videos coming and I’ll keep watching. Thanks for giving this gem to the skate community.

@wodyactual4716 2 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate and admire the amount of effort it took to make this video, just subbed and looking forward to watching and learning more from this channel!!

@PlanetBayto 2 жыл бұрын

i am glad you addressed what the upper body is doing...many tutorials skip this part

@Woodywoodah 2 жыл бұрын

Love the 3D models and detailed break down! Would love to see more sciencey skate content like this.

@lucaswade2257 2 жыл бұрын

After i watched the video i went to my garage and landed my first treflip in 5 tries. Thank you much. I appreciate it

@whythetrick 2 жыл бұрын

Greatttt!!! That’s what I wanted to hear. This video would’ve been nothing without your effort. Great job.

@Zk8er35 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks to the algorithm for introducing me to this channel. I've always been fascinated with the detailed physics for skate tricks.

@NiejakiZoxico 2 жыл бұрын

Whoa. That's the best treflip tutorial I've seen. And I've seen many. Opened my eyes to some aspects. Thanks A LOT, it really is a high quality content

@luizhenriquegobbo 2 жыл бұрын

Great video and channel! I'm mechanical engineer and this physics analysis of the tricks motion really made me understand my skateboard tricks so much better. Cannot wait for other videos. Cheers from Brazil!

@zvttx9615 2 жыл бұрын

This channel is an absolute gem man. God Bless

@graalcloud 2 жыл бұрын

I just spent 2 years watching every youtube video with no luck and just going out and practicing every day until I finally figured out flatground tre flips. And then you decide to upload this, AFTER I finally figured all this out. Great video, you're the only person to upload a video that even comes close to properly explaining this trick.

@jennydeepable 2 жыл бұрын

Really liked hearing your breakdown of this trick, and the animations. Good memories seeing the local Tokyo spot too. Thanks for the content

@benryan2009 2 жыл бұрын

Really awesome perspective, I bet this will help a lot of people that don't learn the conventional way. Completely explains why I can get the rotation so easily with one foot off the board, but don't get anywhere close when I'm riding on it

@manmanlai77 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making such a deep insight of skateboarding video. This is a game changer for everyone!

@JaydenSteele 2 жыл бұрын

I just wanna say thank you very much for taking the time to scientifically break this down making this so much easier to understand.

@MattDiGi 2 жыл бұрын

this is seriously the best tip for tres, i figured this out years ago and it made me finally learn them

@yamenttrpy 2 жыл бұрын

skateboarding physics channel. iv literally been waiting for this

@m_noway 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing video! Loved it! The main problem i see for people who want to tre flip is that they put all their weight on their back foot. This makes the trick so much harder to actually do. Because you basically jump backwards and your board pops forward. So instead of holding it on the Blackfoot you have to hold your weight on the front foot. Hope this helps someone :)

@Corn0nTheCobb 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, this is really awesome. I've never seen such a detailed breakdown before. The animations with the force arrows were great for visualizing exactly what's happening. You just earned a new sub!

@mpawli10 2 жыл бұрын

Been skating for 15 years and this is one of the most helpful videos I've ever seen and explains well enough that I may finally be able to get them down this year! Thank you

@whythetrick 2 жыл бұрын

People at your skating carrier precisely is my target. Those who can think and want to be better at skating. It’s great to be of your help!

@seggszaft 2 жыл бұрын

Perfect explanations… keep up the good quality!

@outsidemayor2098 2 жыл бұрын

The scoop only happens AFTER the sequence, epic breakdown 🛹👌

@jadeackerman8611 2 жыл бұрын

brilliant brilliant work. I am amazed at the amazingly simple concepts that are still so easy to not realize. you laid this out so well. Now I understand also how to get so much more pop, as you need to be nearly leaving your board before you pop it/scoop it

@lfrizzlyl2244 2 жыл бұрын

joooooo wtf I could tre out of every bank and kicker but never on flat I watched your video an was able to tre on flat INSTANTLY AFTER THAT I have been struggling with tre's for 3/4 year now and after you told me to jump first it instantly worked THANK YOU❤️

@whythetrick 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent!!!

@mrfunnyman8244 2 жыл бұрын

this is the most in depth tutorial I have ever seen

@nowellpulido4121 2 жыл бұрын

Best tutorial I've seen so far

@notfarfromgone1 8 ай бұрын

best part - take a breath. all of this absolutely rips, but your mind is working preconsciously every time you try it to make it work. Via your recommendation to chill in the moment and on every try, all the mechanics make sense. Rad. Gratitude.

@klxnproductions9813 2 жыл бұрын

Bro this is super dope props for the channel man. The future of skateboarding haha. This is a next level tutorial right here

@xandro-7840 Жыл бұрын

you have earned yourself a new subscriber friend. from this very simple analysis of the weight distribution I have literally somehow managed to unlock nollie 3shuvs and my ollies and kickflips have never popped so high or felt so natural. wow, I am flabbergasted bro!

@whythetrick Жыл бұрын

Great! Maybe you are right. This timing thing applies to every trick. Thanks for the comment!

@viniciusdeliz9093 2 жыл бұрын

That was insane. Thank you!

@sharpie12354 2 жыл бұрын

Love this channel concept!

@devindeocampo3231 2 жыл бұрын

this deserves way more views, this account is amazing

@whythetrick 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@piterpattinson8241 9 ай бұрын

this is pure gold

@Gwilfawe 2 жыл бұрын

This is ******* amazing! Serious science meets trick tips. This is incredible!

@SteimntzMachadodeFigueiredo 2 жыл бұрын

What a complete and didactic video I've just seen. Man, you are amazing your video brings together two brilliant concept skating and physicomechanical.

@rob_ky0216 2 жыл бұрын

These videos are great ! Cant wait for more bro, thank you👍

@davidk9382 2 жыл бұрын

Golden channel, honestly.

@whythetrick 2 жыл бұрын

thank you!

@markweller64 2 жыл бұрын

Super helpful! I am that guy who has struggle bussed with tre flips forever. Going to apply these physics concepts next time and get this trick wired for once! Thanks so much

@forg0tten Жыл бұрын

These amazing videos earned you my subscription and an urge to show your videos to all my friends irl.

@whythetrick Жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard! Thank you so much. Let me know what your friends say!

@Dirgean 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely loved the video, just all those explanations are so revealing to me. Makes me understand a bit more why certain motions happen and how to feel you board better. Amazing, really splendid. This reminds me of Rodney Mullen and how perfectionist and dedicated he is to the art of skateboarding!! Thanks for your work!!

@filipecava 2 жыл бұрын

Love what your doing, thanks for all the hard work!

@crazycatman5928 2 жыл бұрын

This generation is lucky for tutorials with internet. I quit skating in 1991. Last trick I learned was treflip. Back then it was a lot of work to figure out how to do them. Had a VCR with slow motion playback. I wish I had internet back then...but the hard work and effort to learn a trick was so satisfying to me.

@WeedGreenPie 11 ай бұрын

WOW so much work on this video, so helpfull. Best tutorial i've ever seen.

@GamerReaperDragon 2 жыл бұрын

incredible information! thank you

@amaruhale2546 2 жыл бұрын

So impressed with the advice you give ! You’re really smart and cool

@whythetrick 2 жыл бұрын

thanks a lot. my videos mean nothing without viewers like you.

@Mohamedmortadha-ee3rj Ай бұрын

ive been srtrugeling with 360 flips for a long time thaks a lot

@martinjanmercurio2025 2 жыл бұрын

man. I am trying to revive this trick. thank you for this.

@brendenstanley4386 8 ай бұрын

Your videos are a different breed brother

@-boost- 2 жыл бұрын

I predict this channel will blow up in a couple months! Great content! 🔥🔥🔥

@SKATETOSLAYER 2 жыл бұрын

This is actually a really well thought out explanation of skateboarding motorskills. I may be wrong but in my experience almost any time I've over heard, or been asked to give trick advice on how to do ollies or other things, we all tend to start by explaining with the motion required by our feet, rather than the first goal. Now obviously when we're giving ollie advice we explain that you have to snap your tail on the ground before sliding your front foot up the board to level it out while jumping. but more emphasis definitely needs to be made on the crouching and jumping aspects before all that other shit. Good analysis.

@whythetrick 2 жыл бұрын

you are right. although this one's about treflips, the same concept should apply to other tricks including ollies. jump>>>pop. there's a big difference but we tend to forget about this.

@Sassholejack 2 жыл бұрын

No skate vid has been so in depth going into the physics like this! Def followed for more tips, it’s a lot more than just learning the body movements. I feel like I can go give it another try, thanks!

@whythetrick 2 жыл бұрын

Happy to help!

@urmom71717 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve damn near given up skating and trying to learn tricks bc I just couldn’t get it but this literally made it all CLICK thank you!!! Amazing content

@warsson1 2 жыл бұрын

Dont give up. There's some tricks i cant do to save my life and ive been working on them since my teens.. Like anything with a late flip, like Hospital flips. Their just too much to fast for me. Just kinda work on your own style and have fun.

@lucasstordahl7718 2 жыл бұрын

perfect explanation 👌

@megalogoro6388 2 жыл бұрын

Genuinely fascinating and helpful ty

@whythetrick 2 жыл бұрын

you are welcome. please share your thoughts if any.

@stevedoust4798 2 жыл бұрын

I love these vids. Informative and trippy af.

@whythetrick 2 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome. Thanks for your comments!!

@maxia4584 2 жыл бұрын

This channel is gonna blow up

@trianglecity5868 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing video. Thank you

@tbz3 2 жыл бұрын

This shit right here is why Japan is taking over skateboarding. Amazing analysis bro!!

@ouzei 2 жыл бұрын

Just found your channel. Such helpfull and well made videos! Thanks for making them in English too. I'm from Finland and I know this will help many people around the world 👍

@magnetshoes 2 жыл бұрын

its pure timing, learning the muscle memory for timing is everything

@markskippy5880 2 жыл бұрын

this is gnarly that makes 100 percent sense to me at 37 and skating since 14 its whoa im quilty of the primo 360 flip to wrist snap myself

@joshuamarks6175 2 жыл бұрын

Love the vid. Thank you

@fibryrruihf 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing video and channel. The 3d modeling really helps put things in perspective. Subbed!

@whythetrick 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@elpadre4202 2 жыл бұрын

Nice break down. Will remember this when I try tre's next. Timing of the scoop

@ohstirfry 2 жыл бұрын

I have not done these tricks in years but as you explain some of the physics, dots are being connected in muscle memories. Now I think I could tell some one how to land it quicker.

@djw675 2 жыл бұрын

this is my new favorite chanel

@zenbauhaus1345 2 жыл бұрын

u sir are a genius for making this style of video

@rmhfpv9225 2 жыл бұрын

this is great info which made me realize why I ghost pop once in a while. It's not that I didn't pop the tail hard enough - it's that my front foot pushed down for too long into the move. I need to release my front foot weight on time. if done correctly, as you stated, the skateboard requires very little force to pop.

@jedinaiit2345 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!!

@midojonson8174 2 жыл бұрын

This is great and has been helping me especially the kick flip I was very stuck now I’m way closer to landing I recommend all the basics u cover Ollie shuv it pop shuv it fs and bs 180 and heelflips it would really help a lot I refuse to even watch other tutorials now too keep up the good work