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Definitely wish it was longer

I wish it were more accurate.

So true

I want more!

I heard girthier is better

Thanks Jake!

I am one of them. I see my mates doing a full lean easily at every corner, comparatively meaning: I hold a Tiger xrt 800 front 19" and rear 17" 150mm rear. They hold Tracer 900 GT, 17" front and 17" rear, 180mm rear. I drove the Tracer. The ease of lean, as well as the fact that the 180mm never loses grip, while mine lost once on a roundabout, made me wanna switch to those. What you think, knowing a bit more of this?

Love it!

They are also lighter, which adds to this agility. I actually want a lighter bike because of this.

@@joemann7971 the Ducati Superleggaro (not sure if the name is right) is as light as a 300CC motorcycle but the power is like that of a 1000 CC motorcycle.

Bomli Koyu V4 Superleggera

@@mohamedmasaau2991 yea that's right.

Yes. That's one factor.

All this said from personal experience. Bigger tires equal better braking, traction, and stability on street. On the street there are not many corners mostly straight lines. More power does not necessarily mean more speed it means better acceleration. Better acceleration equals more fun as long as you have self-discipline and don't abuse it to ride at high speeds. Youth plus more power rarely includes sound judgement. Riding highway speeds on small displacement bike is buzzy and annoying. Then you have insufficent power for passing at higher speeds or 2-up riding. The adage of riding a slow bike fast is more fun than riding a fast bike slow is urban myth perpetuated by individuals who often can't afford a more powerful bike. Twist and go, on-demand acceleration from a powerful high torque bike is just as fun and more mentally relaxing then continuously clutching downshifting/upshifting to get into the power band. The later gets old fast. Are you at one with the machine or a slave of the machine? A more powerful motorcycle is like a well trained horse its ready to go when you are and you don't need to beat the crap out of it to make it happen. Learning on a small displacement bike is the best way to start. Young minds don't think about mortality with an invincible mindset with desire for adrenalin rush is a dangerous combination on a powerful bike and limited experience. Even more seasoned adults lack self-discipline and learn the hard way or don't survive another day. Every day one rides should include a personal conversation about not being foolish and living to enjoy riding another day. Riding on street should be about the experience sights, sounds, smells, and the journey. Street is not the place to up your heart rate by taking foolish chances. If you want to ride on the edge then the only place is the track but accept the fact that a crash could still become a life changing event.

@@kannermw I respectfully disagree on -"The adage of riding a slow bike fast is more fun than riding a fast bike slow is urban myth perpetuated by individuals who often can't afford a more powerful bike." I have owned 16 bikes ranging from a MT03, to a Harley to a GXSR 750, including a Z900. Mt07, Z650, and so on. I currently have a Kawasaki KLX 300Supermoto and its a hell of a lot more fun than I ever had on the GSXR or Z900. It will smoke both of them in tight turns such as the Tail of the Dragon. Acceleration does not always equate to fun. There is a lot more to riding than hard full throttle all the time. and No I don't get tired of upshifting and down shifting, its a motorcycle if I didn't want to change gears I would get a Honda Rebel 100 DCT. The fun part is downshifting entering a tight turn then on throttle coming out and upshifting. Boring is riding around in 2nd and 3rd gear all the time (GSXR and Z900). Even the Slower Z900 would do 90 in 3rd gear thats not fun at all. Where I live you can't run triple digit speeds but for brief moments. Anything over 100HP on a sport bike is wasted as you never use it at least where I live. If you live in TX or CA it may be different for you. But for me where I live handling (small and light) is more useful than power (120HP and more). I have seen guys on GROMs smoke supersports on Tail of the Dragon. Its all relative to where you can and do ride. Oh and I'm getting ready to buy a BMW F900r in case you were thinking I could not afford a big bike. I can in fact buy almost any bike available on the market including a Ducati Panigale, Kawasaki H2 or similar, I just don't see any point in it as I don't do track days.

@@kannermw all very solid advice, except for the delusional bit about the “myth perpetuated by people who can’t afford powerful bikes” …what’s fun is subjective and can’t be wrong, which means your myth claim objectively is wrong. And the can’t afford it line is like the most famous identifier of a douchebag. You’re better than that.. you obviously have a lot of great wisdom to share that could make someone a safer rider, there’s no reason to encourage people to be egotistical about money

Garage Addiction why did u sell it?

@@wuvvbernardo9353 I blew the front cylinder at buttonwillow and at the time there were very few parts available and I ended up parting the bike out to keep others running :(

REALLY!!!! the size of the tire is kind of irrelevant as a 170 and 200 series rear tyres will both only of a very very close size contact patch roughly 1.5 inches of rubber in contact with the tarmac

Tack Khan! Breda däck på en Supermotard är rätt kontraproduktivt. I vissa gränsfall såsom racing med supermotard-hojar som har mycket hästkrafter kan man tjäna på ett bredare bakdäck. Vissa proffs byter svingen för att få på bredare bakdäck av den anledningen. Om man kör gata för det mesta så är det bättre med smalare däck.

this.

I think he meant centrifugal force.

@@wjsim Yeah he probably did. Except centrifugal force isn't an actual force, it's really just inertia.

This helped me out, thx

I'd had to play this part twice as well as the first time I didn't notice it was extending to the right ;)

Example: If you increase tire width while keeping the sidewall height constant (smaller aspect ratio) the bike will require more lean angle for a given radius and speed because as the bike leans further onto the tire the horizontal distance between the contact patch to the CoM has decreased vs the more narrow tire. If you increase tire width and hold the aspect ratio constant the bike could actually require LESS lean angle depending on how much of the extra height is in the sidewall vs the contact profile. The horizontal moment arm between CoM and contact patch is decreased as the bike leans due to the wider tire, but because the tire is also taller, the starting CoM is now higher also, offsetting some or possibly all of the change moment arm change due to increased width. And if you increase width AND increase the aspect ratio, it's actually LIKELY that the lean angle for a given radius and speed will be decreased for the same mathematical reasoning above. Bottom line - aspect ratio and tire profile matter just as much as tire width - and it's not a simple black and white "wider tires require more lean" situation.

@@engineeredstrength4102 Perfect! That's the description I was looking for!

Hah, take notice of how I deliberately didn’t mention what is different about the contact patch of a wide vs narrow tire, precisely for this reason.

I came looking for this 😁

But then you also get in to tyre profiles as a 180 60 section rear has the same as a 190 50 or something!

Thanks!

No, front tires just have a pointier profile than the rear on a typical sportbikes. This makes it turn in easier but the rear is more flat to keep a wider contact patch for better grip when accelerating

Thanks for the sub!

The reason they can carry more cornerspeed is because they weigh less

You have excellent taste. If you can afford it, look into carbon rims, and research raising links (which are counterintuitively shorter than stock). Trust me...

@@IanMacLeansnv Thanks Great KZfaq Channel Congrats !!!!!

Yeh, I paused and took a long while to convince myself it should be vertical, but I couldn't. Good to know I'm not alone.

Same here