WiiM's NEW Flagship Music Streamer is here! WiiM Ultra Review - The BEST Streamer for the Money?! 🤔
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0:00 WiiM Ultra
0:30 Build Quality & Design
2:46 Inputs/Outputs
5:21 New Room Correction Feature
6:28 Network Connections
7:28 WiiM Home App
8:23 New DAC
8:52 Setup Process
9:02 Performance Testing
13:58 Overall Recommendation
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@bruceevans3746 17 күн бұрын
Thank you for the thorough review w comparison to other products.
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jimwilliamson7798 17 күн бұрын
Thanks Audio Advise for another very informative video
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Anytime! Thanks for watching!
@InfectiousGroovePodcast 16 күн бұрын
I will be ordering one of these very soon. It's my introduction into the streamer world.
@AudioAdvice 16 күн бұрын
Awesome! Great choice!
@sethfm9773 17 күн бұрын
This seems like a good value for the features.
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Sure is!
@taylorrasmus1905 17 күн бұрын
I've been looking forward to this!
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@johnpajestka5022 17 күн бұрын
Nice product. Need to find out if I can output the streaming digitally to my DAC back into the analog in, then out to my amps. It does that I'm in.
@drake5772 11 күн бұрын
This is a great entry level piece for people. Great overview and being honest that this is a good product but not the same as more expensive high performance audio streamer/dacs. I watched your top streamer/dac video and that does a really good job showing the options at various price points.
@AudioAdvice 11 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@robertgruber982 17 күн бұрын
When you tested with the Macintosh setup, were you using the built in DAC or something else? You mention the Chord DAC but then you talk about it's internal DAC's performance so I'm confused. I'm pretty skeptical that one can actually hear the difference between streamers (know you still have to sell the higher end ones so you need to caveat it with "at this price point") but if you told me a better DAC would help, I could believe that.
@D1N02 17 күн бұрын
yeah I noticed that too. It was like they just skipped over the part of using it as a streamer only. Nothing about soundstage and layering that is apparently still lacking a bit over the internal DAC. Also I would have liked a comparison between spdif coax/optical and the USB output. The only reason for me to get the Ultra would be if it could punch considerably above it's weight as a streamer only. I already have better DAC's than what is in there.
@robertgruber982 17 күн бұрын
@@D1N02 I assume as these things hit the market, other reviewers will address this. It also seems like since the RIAA curves are being applied in the digital domain, you could tweak the phono signal to best all but the highest end phono stages, kind of like the Waxwing digital phono stage does. The limitations would be in the software and I guess the gain of the input for low output MC cartridges.
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Great point. Watching it back, we realize that part was a bit confusing. Thanks for pointing that out. We tested using the Chord Qutest DAC. As a streamer with the Chord Qutest DAC, it performed really well in that setup and we loved what we heard. We jumped to talking to the internal DAC too quickly. But yes, the Chord Qutest made it a lot better of a setup! Jumping up to a higher end streamer would definitely sound better though. Streamers will certainly affect the sound, as it all depends on how they process the source. Using an external DAC, we think it would be hard to hear a difference between any WiiM products. But if you connect that same DAC to a higher-end streamer from HiFi Rose, the clocks and other internals will process the source differently and directly affect the sound to make it sound "better."
@YouSoundButtHurt 17 күн бұрын
Streamers do not all sound alike but your skepticism will save you money since you likely have a setup that can’t show a difference or you aren’t capable of hearing a difference. Great news for you!
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
@D1N02 yes, sorry that part was confusing. Thank you for the feedback. As a streamer only, we thought it sounded great but wasn't quite up to par with the likes of Bluesound or Eversolo. It may be subjective to each person and depend on their setup. Feel free to chat or call our experts at audioadvice.com for more suggestions!
@cpa889900 17 күн бұрын
Great thorough honest review
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@paladinonicolas 15 күн бұрын
Muy buena reseña! Creo que me sigo quedando con mi eversolo como streamer saliendo a mi Dac wadia!
@AudioAdvice 15 күн бұрын
Fair enough! Thanks for watching!
@chrisgargiulo304 17 күн бұрын
Great review!
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Thanks!!
@1111cowball 17 күн бұрын
the room correction applied output on coaxial digital output that catch me
@Krikstar123 13 күн бұрын
Yeah! Thinking of getting the ultra and a Peachtree Gan 1 (powerdac) as all I do is high res streaming. Should make a real simple and well sounding easily upgradable setup 🙂
@dalstar925 8 күн бұрын
@@Krikstar123I have the WiiM pro into a nova 150 and it sounds fantastic. I hear the gan stuff is even better.
@deadline7610 13 күн бұрын
Nicely Done. You mentioned the Ultra "wasn't quite up to par with the likes of Bluesound " but you didn't mention which bluesound you were testing ? Thnaks
@AudioAdvice 12 күн бұрын
Thanks, Node X. Appreciate you watching
@markc5677 17 күн бұрын
I'm really excited about this product I pre-ordered my do you know if the using the HDMI connection will it show the artwork on the TV?
@Brett1334 17 күн бұрын
Doubtful as it’s not an HDMI out as far as I’m aware it’s only a HDMI audio in
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
It did not do that in our testing
@nivs123 17 күн бұрын
I'd guess you could with Apple TV to TV then to Wiim
@phunny12000 17 күн бұрын
Why is it not called a hdmi input It has no arc capability, that's handled by the TV side of things Missed opportunity IMO
@bradlee2594 17 күн бұрын
@@phunny12000 - It is called an HDMI Input, and it does have ARC capability.
@caseydog237 17 күн бұрын
I have a Wiim amp and I can’t really see how this could be any better. Yes, color screen. Yes, upgraded DAC chipset (that nobody could tell the difference between). Unless you’re using that at your desk, why would you want a touch screen? You interact with the app on your phone or the remote 99% of the time. I’d hold out for the Wiim Amp Ultra.
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
You make some fair points. It may not be worth upgrading for everyone!
@theSOUNDinterpreter 17 күн бұрын
I want a WiiM with HDMI arc without the amp. This is more an upgrade over the WiiM Pro than the WiiM Amp
@pushslice 17 күн бұрын
Some people like me already have very good amplification, that’s not going anywhere. and yes, I absolutely love seeing that screen (assuming it’s of decent definition and color)
@42degrees86 17 күн бұрын
Or you could look at using this with a higher quality class d power amp
@juicythedj750 16 күн бұрын
@@caseydog237 just a whole different kind of product amigo. I already own a good preamp/poweramp Rotel combo and this is probably going to replace the preamp. The fact that they integrated a touch screen instead of physical buttons is neat and gives it a clean look. I'm glad we get this amount of control on the device itself. It would've been absurd having to grab your phone to change inputs for example - especially when you have a cd player or turntable sitting right next to it.
@bristolwoodburners81 17 күн бұрын
Great - reviews have started = so mine should be here by the end of the week yeah?
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Did you order from us? We expect shipment very soon but don't have an exact date yet.
@michaelwright1602 16 күн бұрын
Fantastic review gentlemen! Now, if WiiM will produce a standalone network streamer with high quality electronic bits, DSD/USB capabilities, outboard power supply along with their industry leading software, we will have a real winner! And if anyone can do that, it is WiiM! Let’s see it guys!
@AudioAdvice 16 күн бұрын
Thanks so much! That would be awesome! We'll be sure to pass it along to the WiiM team.
@michaelwright1602 16 күн бұрын
@@AudioAdvice Please do! I just popped for a Volumio Rivo, a standalone network streamer, along with a $600 Farad 5v linear power supply. I'm serious, I wish WiiM would build a unit like the Rivo. I would much rather spend my money with WiiM, as I am not a fan of the Volumio software. But, everything I have read and the videos I have watched, with a few weeks, the Rivo can compete with more expensive streamers. WiiM could easily pull this off.
@user-ps6kt7eh2m 12 күн бұрын
@@michaelwright1602 yes! Totally agree
@lucaswasbezet 17 күн бұрын
How do you think the DAC in the Wiim Ultra compares to the DAC in the Audiolab 6000a?
@DaNi-nq3tj 14 күн бұрын
this is a pretty darn good question, I would really like to know the quality of both the DAC and the ADC.
@AndrewBell 17 күн бұрын
Great review. Will this play music files directly off of a USB stick plugged into the USB port on the back? Does the app have local storage file navigation to access these files? Thanks
@stevewoodhouse621 17 күн бұрын
Yes and yes.
@stevieg2755 17 күн бұрын
I had the same question,does it play from a USB stick?
@stevewoodhouse621 17 күн бұрын
Yes.
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Yes to both!
@KevinHine 17 күн бұрын
Will it play off of an android phone plugged in via USB? Acting as headphones. My smsl ao300 does and I love that feature. Thanks!
@billhennigan3773 6 күн бұрын
I Just bought this from Your store..Hope to get it soon, already bought better cables to hook up to my Sony receiver..
@AudioAdvice 6 күн бұрын
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@stevelucey7719 17 күн бұрын
Really nice looking interface!
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Glad you like it!
@dextermorgan1 17 күн бұрын
I want it just for the color screen. I have a Wiim Pro that works great.
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
This will be an amazing upgrade!
@AbdoAbdala 16 күн бұрын
Thank you for your review. Great job. I would like to know how it compares to a Cambridge CXN V2 or 100? How would you rate it. Now I have a Rega P3 and connected directly to the MA6800 (Mcintosh) which is already 30 years old. Would this Wiim Phono input sound better? Thanks.
@AudioAdvice 16 күн бұрын
Thanks! Call or chat our team of experts at audioadvice.com and they can help you decide what would be best for your system!
@manikdesilva1 17 күн бұрын
How does the headphone amp sound on this device? Seems to be a complete package if you have external amplification. The WIIM Pro internal dac was terrible. ProPlus seems to be a better choice but this device takes it to the next level.
@Michael-xz1nk 16 күн бұрын
An amazing product for $329! I’m sure they will add Airplay 2 when approved sometime in the future. I also hope they add an HDMI out so the artwork shows up on TV’s for bigger images.
@AudioAdvice 15 күн бұрын
It sure is! Those will both be great additions! Thanks for watching
@nrafaco 16 күн бұрын
This sounds as a great product. If I use the streamer with a external DAC like the <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="773">12:53</a> Denafrips Ares they all would work the same ?
@AudioAdvice 15 күн бұрын
Call or chat with our team of experts at audioadvice.com and they can help you be sure you have the right setup. Thanks!
@roml2112 17 күн бұрын
How would you compare the phone stage here to a 1500 dollar receiver (marantz 6014)?
@greggorychopper 17 күн бұрын
Liking the touch screen capability
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
A great addition! Thanks for watching!
@ArmFanatic 17 күн бұрын
New to audio scene, could someone explain the advantage to using something like this over my iPad Pro that I hook to my receiver with a usb-c to line cable?? My baby 2.1 setup is a Sony str-dh190 receiver Klipsch rp600mii speakers Rsl speedwoofer 10s mkii
@StCreed 17 күн бұрын
The DAC quality is probably less but if you don't hear the difference then not much. Except you don't need an ipad pro *and* a receiver.
@ArmFanatic 17 күн бұрын
@@StCreed thanks for that, the reason I use the iPad is because whenever I streamed music From my phone it would say “quality reduced while connected over Bluetooth” or something to that end.
@Artcore103 16 күн бұрын
@@ArmFanaticyes it has a better DAC. Not only is the DAC better, but the analog output of that DAC (effectively the preamp) is better too. The audio quality would be better. An iPad is not a proper source, it's a quick and dirty source you can use when you're somewhere besides your home. You don't need a Wiim though, you just need a DAC and something that can connect to it, namely a computer. I don't know if the iPad can use an external DAC.
@omoveja8185 14 күн бұрын
A question: is the USB output also limited to 24-bit/192 kHz? So I can't output DSD512 upsampled from HQPlayer, for example ?
@Alextraz 14 күн бұрын
I think so ...thats why I went with the pro...
@JAMRADIONYC 15 күн бұрын
How would you compare the DAC in the Wiim Ultra to the SMSL SU-1? I currently use the Wiim Mini with the SU-1 and I love the way it sounds. Would the Ultra be a major upgrade in sound? I don't care about the touchscreen and all that.
@AudioAdvice 15 күн бұрын
Call or chat with our team at audioadvice.com and they can help decide what's best for you!
@robertpoole5652 13 күн бұрын
Do I need a amp to play this through my speakers? This might be be starting point for a streamer
@AudioAdvice 12 күн бұрын
Yes. Feel free to reach out to our team for some suggestions. Thanks for watching
@robertmcdougall3166 17 күн бұрын
This promises so much and WIIM are set to become the dominant supplier going forward. My issue is that I have digitised my music collection, either by copying from CD or purchasing MP3. These are held on a QNAP NAS. I would love to know how this would integrate with that, also seen issues in the UK with PlusNet routers. I also have many CDs and this sounds as if I might end up with a large number of devices to simply play my collection.
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Call or chat with our team of experts at audioadvice.com and they can look into the best option for you and your setup!
@lukespencer6314 17 күн бұрын
Looks like a pretty solid product
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Absolutely!
@edwardwood969 16 күн бұрын
It's disappointing that there's no AirPlay 2.
@AudioAdvice 15 күн бұрын
Agreed. We think that it will eventually be coming once approved.
@harrisonlainhart9876 16 күн бұрын
Great option to get into streaming!!!
@AudioAdvice 15 күн бұрын
Yes, it is!
@Krikstar123 13 күн бұрын
This and a Peachtree Gan 1 (powerdac) should be golden for anyone mostly just streaming and watching TV. Variable coax out to the Gan 1, trigger out to turn it on/off, Tv via ARC, room correction, sub out, a good streaming platform and a remote control to handle volume etc without faffing around with the phone all the time 🙂👍
@AudioAdvice 12 күн бұрын
Good suggestion!
@mikehayes1404 17 күн бұрын
Looks good!
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@25zvillcb25 6 күн бұрын
If you stream to the Wiim Ultra with the Wiim going into an integrated amplifier with a DAC, would only the DAC in the integrated amp be used and the Ultra's would be bypassed? Or would that depend on how they're connected, RCA vs optical/toslink?
@AudioAdvice 6 күн бұрын
Exactly, depends on the connection. RCA would be the Wiim, digital out uses the DAC in the unit its going into. Thanks for watching
@buksi3761 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for your review! Just one question is it possible to connect my 1 tb HDD to Wiim Ultra USB port and does it work fast?
@AudioAdvice 4 күн бұрын
You are welcome. Yes the USB port supports a USB drive for music files. We did not test it but assume it would be fast. Thanks for watching
@RamisDad 17 күн бұрын
I just need to know if the streamer portion (to an external dac) is better than the pro plus
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Yes. However, depending on your system, we think it will be hard to tell a difference between an WiiM products when using the same DAC. It will depend on how revealing your system is if you can really hear a difference.
@emilioyanguez8106 16 күн бұрын
Short answer: NO. Long answer: NO. Answers apply to most of the streamers regardless of the price. How can digital data be transferred with better or worse quality? Both of them support bit-perfect data transfer. The Ultra has a more capable WiFi chip if you're not connecting them by an ethernet cable.
@RamisDad 16 күн бұрын
@@emilioyanguez8106 No. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mK-qZ6eh3LWumWQ.htmlsi=8ItINhIAFkbKA96U
@bpalpha 17 күн бұрын
So, where's the WiiM ultra amp? I have my WiiM pro hooked up to my Denon receiver and that's working great for me. WiiM could become a significant challenger to other hi-fi brands.
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
It will be coming soon. We will have a review on it as soon as we get our hands on one.
@bristolwoodburners81 17 күн бұрын
It'll be a while..they're updating the amp to the amp pro next
@sneakyds 17 күн бұрын
@@AudioAdviceare you confusing this with the WiiM Amp Pro that was announced at Munich? There’s been no formal confirmation that there will be an Amp with a screen although that would be a logical procession
@valentinvalentin8916 17 күн бұрын
Hi! In terms of sound quality bluesound node x, it s better?
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
If you are using the internal DAC, we think the Bluesound will most likely sound better to most people. It will also depend on your setup. If you want more help deciding, feel free to call or chat with our experts at audioadvice.com!
@samsneediii1793 17 күн бұрын
Do you need a preamp, or can you connect this directly to a power amp?
@Arthax83 17 күн бұрын
Connect it to a power amp.
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
You can connect directly to a power amp.
@Capitan_Cavernicola_1 14 сағат бұрын
Any price appropriated recommendations for power amplifiers to use with the Wiim ultra? Class A, AB and D?
@LeggoMyLamb 5 күн бұрын
If someone wants to make this the audio output for a desktop PC...is that done via USB, network connection, or RCA-in (via something like a Schiit EITR)?
@AudioAdvice 4 күн бұрын
You would be better off with a separate DAC designed to work with your PC. This is a music streamer. Please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com for help choosing the best one for your needs and budget. Thanks for watching
@carminedesanto6746 17 күн бұрын
I think this will have a great impact on those with smaller systems or self powered speakers 🔊..as for me …it’s a pass. Currently using the Wiim Pro feeding optically a Denafrips Ares 12-1 DAC … Tho I may yet buy one for the downstairs system…. A great video and very informative.
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Thanks! Yes, you'll likely not hear much of a difference between WiiM products when using an external DAC.
@carminedesanto6746 16 күн бұрын
@@AudioAdvice Then isn’t an incentive to build a better streamer ( not wasting time on an internal DAC ..like Rose 🌹 streamer only ..yes it’s $5k …but you have to wonder what could Wiim do at $700-1200 ⚙️⚙️⚙️
@lukespencer2162 17 күн бұрын
Fantastic!
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@pablovi77 16 күн бұрын
Do you have Apple Music built in?
@AudioAdvice 15 күн бұрын
No Apple Music built in
@leepuddefoot-attackanglego7734 17 күн бұрын
Did you pair any speakers?
@AudioAdvice 12 күн бұрын
We used a few different passive speakers when testing. The McIntosh XR50 and XR100 were used in the larger system. We also used some speakers from B&W and Heco.
@clegsmate6094 17 күн бұрын
I’m confused (not an unusual state of affairs for me) does the Ultra transmit Bluetooth. If so what with what codecs.
@sneakyds 17 күн бұрын
Yeah, it can transmit Bluetooth to another device but only SBC/AAC
@AudioAdvice 5 күн бұрын
Yes, @sneakyds is correct
@PostExpert 2 күн бұрын
You forgot the elephant in the room: no support for Airplay 2!!!! Why? All the other Wiim streamers do. This is deal breaker!
@AudioAdvice Күн бұрын
Yes, they told us initially it was in certification process. We reached out yesterday for an official statement and have not heard back yet.
@peopleoftexas5290 16 күн бұрын
Wiim ultra + cheap ponsi amp VS Wiim amp. which one is better choice? i'm very new to the audiophile and using rp600 ii klipsch speakers
@AudioAdvice 16 күн бұрын
Pairing it with the WiiM Amp would be a great match!
@peopleoftexas5290 16 күн бұрын
@@AudioAdvice thank you for the reply! s
@MrWilander88 12 күн бұрын
Any clue when it would recieve an update to natively support apple music?
@AudioAdvice 11 күн бұрын
No, but that would be great. Thanks for watching
@geoffreydebrito7934 16 күн бұрын
I was interested in the WiiM Ultra, both for its superior streaming software and especially for its Room Correction. Unfortunately, that function reportedly only works with Apple's iOS and for me that's a deal breaker.
@AudioAdvice 16 күн бұрын
Yes, for now it is only iOS.
@douglsmith 3 күн бұрын
Does the phono input allow turning off the RIAA equalization curve? Better yet, can custom EQ be applied instead of the RIAA?
@AudioAdvice 2 күн бұрын
It does not. Do you have some very old records with a different EQ? If so, you would be best served with a better phono preamp. Please reach out to our team to discuss options. Thanks for watching.
@douglsmith Күн бұрын
@@AudioAdvice Yes, old 78 RPM shellac records from pre-RIAA EQ days. I was hoping the WiiM Ultra might have that capability because that would be pretty amazing at its price point and with all of the other great features.
@AudioAdvice Күн бұрын
Ahh yes that explains it. That is going to be tough to find.
@goodforwatch 6 күн бұрын
does the display show the volume? can i see it from across an average living room?
@AudioAdvice 6 күн бұрын
Yes it does. The screen is only around 3 inches so depending on how far you are, it may be difficult to see.
@goodforwatch 6 күн бұрын
@@AudioAdvice thanks
@Arizonacomet 17 күн бұрын
I did not catch the price
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
$329 right now: www.audioadvice.com/wiim-ultra-digital-music-hub
@hmurchison8123 17 күн бұрын
329 dollars
@neutron564 17 күн бұрын
@AudioAdvice Damn only 30 more than the Wiim Amp
@steve-ey4ol 3 күн бұрын
It’s official that this device will not be getting AirPlay feel sorry for all that ordered
@c0mbat15 17 күн бұрын
I'm disappointed that they have enabled the automatic room correction with a minidsp mic. I assume that using a friend's iPhone is going to result in a far inferior outcome given that the mic on the minidsp will be far better.
@Artcore103 16 күн бұрын
Why would that be disappointing? It's necessary to have a good measurement mic.
@Philiphay 14 күн бұрын
Question: will the Cover Art Show when using AirPlay 2?
@AudioAdvice 14 күн бұрын
AirPlay is still being certified so it does not work yet for us to test.
@PostExpert 2 күн бұрын
There’s no mention of certification on Wiim website. Roon is in certification but not Airplay 2 AFAIK
@nkredz21 16 күн бұрын
Hi, I recently bought marantz pm8006 and smsl su9 pro dac connected to xiaomi mibox S. Will it sound better than my mibox If i use this streamer as source by connecting it either to DAC via optical or direct to amp via RCA?
@AudioAdvice 15 күн бұрын
Chat or call with our team of experts at audioadvice.com and they can help you decide if this will be worth it for you. Thanks!
@palocunderlik794 3 күн бұрын
Hi, in my setup I have nvidia shield and ifi zen stream streamer..ifi zen stream beats shield bigtime in audio quality and the difference is significant, even with UAPP installed on shield, that is bypassing some android audio limitations..i would strongly suggest to go for a streamer if you are serious with music from digital sources..btw my dac and amp are in similar price category as yours..
@nkredz21 2 күн бұрын
@@palocunderlik794 thanks a lot for the input mate. Will get the Wiim Ultra.
@palocunderlik794 2 күн бұрын
@@nkredz21would be interested how the internal wiim dac compares to smsl in terms of sound quality
@nkredz21 2 күн бұрын
@@palocunderlik794 Same here, just ordered the wiim ultra via Amazon store. I need to wait about 2 weeks to get it. Will share my experience once tested it mate.
@myu4039 Күн бұрын
So that USB puts out audio? What quality I wonder?
@AudioAdvice 21 сағат бұрын
We did not test it but it says up to 24/192. Thanks for watching
@JensenTech 13 күн бұрын
How did Ultra optain lower jitter vs pro plus?
@GeirRssaak 5 күн бұрын
If you hear jitter, you should visit your eardoctor
@TonyFernandezjkdjedi Күн бұрын
How does it compare to the Audioengine B-Fi ?
@AudioAdvice 21 сағат бұрын
Far better from the Wiim. Its got a much better DAC and supporting circuitry. Thanks for watching
@johnosam4681 17 күн бұрын
why dacs dont put balanced hole on front? or is that 3.5 a balanced hole? sorry very noob here.
@Artcore103 16 күн бұрын
Very few situations would benefit from a fully balanced arrangement and often it's objectively inferior. Balanced exists for noise cancellation from long cable runs, it is not an upgrade in your house. Many audiophiles are dumb people.
@johnosam4681 16 күн бұрын
@@Artcore103 but do balanced arrangements helps with separation and wide staging?
@aldub1263 15 күн бұрын
Did you do any blind A B testing with the Wiim against any of those other streamers? I doubt it....
@AudioAdvice 10 күн бұрын
We've listened to many streamers over the years and typically compare them side by side.
@c0mbat15 17 күн бұрын
You think it doesn't sound as good as the Bluesound Powernode N330?! My WiiM Pro Plus is just as good IMHO as my now sold N330. Many reviewers say it's better. So how the Ultra doesn't sound as good is surprising. I get the feeling that you have major bias based on price. In other words you refuse to believe that something that cheap can be as good as something more expensive.
@Artcore103 16 күн бұрын
Yes audiophiles are completely broken and deluded in assuming more money equals more better, which is nonsense in the world of electronics.
@basschecker14 10 күн бұрын
Money Money Money
@mbrownie22 9 күн бұрын
Or maybe people have their own opinion about things? Hmmm?
@Artcore103 9 күн бұрын
@@mbrownie22 yeah, they do. dumb and incorrect opinions easily explained by various biases, notoriously useless audio memory, and test condition failures.
@rayfriedman6107 9 күн бұрын
Sounds as though you're interest here is not so much a review of the Ultra, but more as a shoehorn-video intended to up-sell hapless viewers into more expensive (higher margin) gear. All of which suggests, that whether it's this product, or the next do it all super-box down the line, finally pound a wooden stake through the heart of overinflated, high-end hi-fi gear, you won't be looking forward to it, or recommending it either.
@joncruz 6 күн бұрын
Air play 2 yes or not? I read is still pending certification.
@AudioAdvice 6 күн бұрын
Not yet, but they do say it is pending. Thanks for watching
@joncruz 6 күн бұрын
@@AudioAdvice Thanks
@maxwaver777 10 күн бұрын
I wish if it was an amp too !
@AudioAdvice 10 күн бұрын
You can certainly add one! Thanks for watching
@maxwaver777 10 күн бұрын
@@AudioAdvice thanks, I have the wiim amp, so No need to upgrade ...
@pokrog 16 күн бұрын
I really wish companies would stop acting like stereo subs don't exist. These single sub output devices boil my blood.
@AudioAdvice 15 күн бұрын
Agreed, two independent sub outs are always a great option to have!
@krestdorl1697 7 күн бұрын
Can you turn off the diplay while using?
@AudioAdvice 7 күн бұрын
We had a prototype but they say a software update will give that option. Thanks for watching
@krestdorl1697 7 күн бұрын
@@AudioAdvice Ok. Thank you
@turbo2288 17 күн бұрын
"It won't replace $500+ streamer like Blusound.....". What's the point !
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
It's more affordable. A great way to get into streaming with great sound for a better price.
@tomasfromyr 16 күн бұрын
You guys should probably try some blind testing... Of course, the "higher price is better" is good for sales. Any measurements?
@csszabi8779 2 күн бұрын
The I2S interface is missing. It's big mistake in 2024 (flagship streamer).
@AudioAdvice Күн бұрын
Probably a cost decision, this unit is still very inexpensive compared to many others. Thanks for sharing
@ilja4420 16 күн бұрын
If this device plays on same level as Eversolo 6 (not ME) on digital out at least - it would be win position for WIM, cause price double times lower!
@AudioAdvice 15 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@stevewoodhouse621 17 күн бұрын
If we know the Pro Plus is already transparent to the source, how can this be 'better'. And presuming it's as good as the Pro Plus, how can it be less good than anything else?
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
It's all about how it will process the source. If you're using the internal DACs, the Ultra will sound better. If you're using an external DAC, there will probably be little difference that you can hear between WiiM products. But if you jump up to a higher end streamer from say HiFi Rose and use the same external DAC, it will sound better than the Ultra due to having better clocks and internals that process the information differently and lead to a better sound.
@Artcore103 16 күн бұрын
@@AudioAdvicewrong, if you're using an external DAC the streamer can not make a difference. USB and jitter has come a long way and unless something is really broken, it is 100% a non-issue.
@cybourne5910 10 күн бұрын
As good as the Eversolo A6?
@AudioAdvice 10 күн бұрын
Most of our team would lean towards the A6. But it is much more expensive and may come down to what you care about most.
@timotting6151 3 күн бұрын
Waiting for a 5.1 version 😢
@AudioAdvice 2 күн бұрын
That might be a very long wait. We don't know of any 5.1 streamers. Thanks for watching.
@retiredbutnottired932 4 күн бұрын
For all you experts out there. I know there's a lot of you just by reading the comments lol. Would you connect powered speakers via analog (RCA) or digital (optical or USB) and what are the pros and cons of both? My powered Klipsch speakers have all those inputs. Thanks..
@AudioAdvice 4 күн бұрын
It would depend on the DAC inside the speakers and how it compared to the one in the Wiim. With the Klipsch, you should run analog from the Wiim. Hope this helps
@retiredbutnottired932 4 күн бұрын
Thank you. So the dac in the ultra must be better than the dac in the Klipsch powered speakers. Which volume would you recommend setting to a fixed level?
@jkim4712 17 күн бұрын
My Wiim pro with LPS was as good as Eversolo. How is the Ultra as streamer only, just using USB or coaxial digital out and external DAC, can it be as good as Eversolo?
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
It was very good as a streamer only for it's price. As good as Eversolo? It was quite close but we leaned towards the Eversolo. If that slight difference is worth the extra price will be a question that depends on your budget and your overall system.
@HappyHighwayman 12 күн бұрын
How does that ground hole for a TT work?
@AudioAdvice 12 күн бұрын
Yep, its a little funky, would require a mini plug, cut off and strip one end and tie it to your ground using an alligator clip or twisting. Thanks for watching
@HappyHighwayman 12 күн бұрын
@@AudioAdvice Apparently it comes with an adapter for that hole according to the manual.
@AudioAdvice 12 күн бұрын
@@HappyHighwayman Great, thanks for sharing
@amarokanovicmtb 10 күн бұрын
Does it sound better than Arcam ST5?
@AudioAdvice 10 күн бұрын
We have not compared them yet, but the Arcam should sound better as it has a far better DAC, raw parts cost of the DACs in bulk are $50 for the Arcam and $12 for the one in the Wiim
@amarokanovicmtb 10 күн бұрын
@@AudioAdvice Thank you for your reply. I've bought Arcam's A5 and CD5 after watching your Radia series review and I'm very satisfied so far but I'm reluctant to buy the ST5 after reading some bad reviews and comments about it's app. Is it so terrible? Whould it be wiser to buy the Wiim and connect it digitaly to the a5?
@AudioAdvice 10 күн бұрын
@@amarokanovicmtb Yes, knowing now you already have the A5, it could work well as the A5 has the same DAC as the ST5. We hope you will support our channel and purchase from Audio Advice. www.audioadvice.com/wiim-ultra-digital-music-hub
@42degrees86 17 күн бұрын
I don't get all the talk of the wiim ultra sound performance it's really only the DAC section performance isn't it, as their is no amp in it. Also when compared to other high end streamers isn't wiims functionality and range of support just about the best out there?
@AudioAdvice 10 күн бұрын
There is not amp in it, correct. The DAC is upgraded from their other products. There are many other streamers with great functionality and range of support that are in competition from brands that we mentioned in the video.
@42degrees86 9 күн бұрын
@@AudioAdvice I was referring to the discussion about it's sound quality performance when bypassing the DAC.
@o0Martian0o 4 күн бұрын
But how does it sound with stereo systems that doesn’t cost 1.5 million dollars 🤦🏾♀️
@AudioAdvice 4 күн бұрын
Haha, pretty darn good!
@user-ps6kt7eh2m 17 күн бұрын
As a streamer only, does ultra sound better than pro or proplus? Using same external dac in both comparison
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
We think it will be hard to tell the difference if you're using the same external DAC.
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
However, if you jump up to higher end streamer and use the same DAC, you will most likely hear a difference. But probably not between WiiM products.
@user-ps6kt7eh2m 17 күн бұрын
@@AudioAdvice so in other words if you compare a wiim ultra as a streamer only to say an eversolo dmpa6 only as a streamer both using the same external dac the eversolo would sound better since it is a more expensive unit? Or do i have to go higher in price to hear a difference?
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
If you have a revealing setup, you will probably hear a slight difference. However, the price of the Ultra is hard to beat and you may not even hear much of a change. It's really when you start to jump into much higher units is when the streamer only will make it sound much better. Feel free to call or chat with our experts at audioadvice.com and they can advise you based on your system whether an upgrade is worth it.
@Artcore103 16 күн бұрын
If you're using an external DAC the streamer literally does not and CAN NOT affect the sound quality one iota.
@mikehislop6482 16 күн бұрын
But... What does it sound like? 😁😎
@AudioAdvice 15 күн бұрын
Sounds awesome for the price! 😁
@CK-fe3vg 14 күн бұрын
Still no Dolby Atmos??
@AudioAdvice 14 күн бұрын
Nope
@user-wx4ut3zo6n 13 күн бұрын
Dlaczego nie ma You Tube?????😢😅😅😅mam premium, czy posłucham?????? HELP me😢
@AudioAdvice 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching
@kadaj7269 7 күн бұрын
Apple Music not supported?
@AudioAdvice 7 күн бұрын
Not at this time.
@randomneutral4250 8 күн бұрын
No Apple Music ?
@AudioAdvice 7 күн бұрын
Correct. Thanks for watching
@tarushthevideographer 14 күн бұрын
Oh no Why can't they play native DSD?
@AudioAdvice 12 күн бұрын
Not sure.
@daniel-deverell 16 күн бұрын
The "Where it falls short" segment is totally subjective and therefore negligible as a review.
@AudioAdvice 15 күн бұрын
That is true. It will vary for everyone. This is just what our team thought after listening to this product and many others at higher price points. However, what sounds good to someone might not always sound good to someone else.
@palmito22 17 күн бұрын
Eversolo and Bluesound got some problems…
@bristolwoodburners81 17 күн бұрын
bluesound yes - I think eversolo are in a different lane
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Possibly... The Ultra sounds great for the money!
@MrJhardencdj 17 күн бұрын
How do you spell "bowlth"
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
😂
@Gavin_Volure 17 күн бұрын
I have one of these. It's called my phone.
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Haha, not quite the same, but will work for some people!
@LilRush4 15 күн бұрын
When you whipped out the greensound powernode 330n, I was like aint no way bluds doing this (lmao!!). I was like they not like us fr! Anyways I think that this camera is awful, like how could you trust it if its not worth 8 bands! Oh my heck! Yall are not jits if you believe that this camera is good. Instead get a low taper fade because that meme is massive!
@AudioAdvice 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching
@steve-ey4ol 6 күн бұрын
No airplay
@AudioAdvice 6 күн бұрын
At this time no, but certification is pending, so it should be there eventually
@AppleUAH 16 күн бұрын
Bad! Better EVO 75))))
@AudioAdvice 15 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@aldepal 17 күн бұрын
Oooooouuuiiii!!
@AudioAdvice 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
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