+Fritz Maisenbacher (GA4N) He was not metronomic for sure, His music pulsed, like the human heart.

Yes!

As ever, I agree w you.

Geniuses are few and far between

me either

Solo del XX secolo????????? Wilhelm Furtwangler ed Arturo Toscanini sono i più grandi direttori di tutta la storia dell'interpretazione!!!!!!!!!

@@renato45222 sono d'accordo... ma, Furtwanglër era più brillante.... da brava italiana!

@@renato45222 What about von Karajan and Mitropoulos? I Think it's vain to try to find the best. Opinions vary. Just honour and be thankful to all of them.

Da gab es sogar einen "Nachfolger" Furtwänglers (wenn ich mir dies so herausnehmen darf): Leonard Bernstein! :D Furtwängler und Bernstein waren beide selbst Komponisten und konnten sich ausgezeichnet in den jeweiligen Komponisten hineinversetzen!

@@MusikPiratCH Nicht einmal zu vergleichen.

What is the tragedy that you speak of? This was recorded in 1952 btw......

@@winrx maybe she talking about the tragedy of Siegrfried.

@@winrx You're all the time thinking of the SAME. Tragedies were born with the world itself.

Shirley Rombough Tragedy? What tragedy do you refer to?

@@gonzalogallardobareyre Chalo: Pero este Idilio de Sigfrido nada tiene que ver con la Ópera Sigfrido del mismo Wagner. La señorita o está confundida o simplemente ignora los hechos. Este Idilio de Sigfrido lo compuso Wagner como un homenaje a su esposa que recién le diera un hijo a quien pusieron como nombre Sigfrido. Así que la señorita ignora el dato histórico....y todavía nos habla de las sombras de la tragedia que se avecina..y aquí en esta música no de encuentran sombras trágicas. La señorita opina ignorando, Chalo. Bien se dice que "La ignorancia es atrevida" Chalo Pase usted buena noche e ignore a la ignorante, Chalo.

forgive me if I ask this you can refuse to answer. Why is it difficult for Your to listen sometines>

Oh, poor lad, I assume you find it difficult to listen to, to read, to watch and so on... everyone whose past is not as it should be according to your 21st century point of view. Can you listen to, read or watch ANYONE?

what do you mean Italian orchestras are unfamiliar with Wagner?? Beethoven and Bach also,perhaps!

@@francescaemc2 Perhaps and very likely. So what.

Have you heard his Bruckner 8?

@@peterreed1642 thanks for pointing that out: indeed I have; there are, as you know, several - each magnificent...

@Jon Murphy - yes, I feel the same way: this one is particularly splendid, especially in terms of tempi...

Interesting comment since in the 1840s Wagner described himself as a socialist and was active in the revolutionary politics of that time, which was one of the reasons he spent much of his life in exile.

Interesting comment since Wagner described himself as a socialist and was involved in the revolutionary politics of the 1840s. This is the main reason why he spent many years in exile, and was often unable to attend performances of his own works.

@@LendallPitts ¿Que te pasa?? Yo soy comunista y me gusta el video!! Bájale 2 mijito!! No seas tan cuadriculado facho!! Humanízate!!

Tobias K-ommunist ?: Votre commentaire est inqualifiable de bêtise. Si pour Furtwangler des questions se posent sur son choix de rester pendant la période nazie et de jouer dans des circonstances bien peu honorables en présence d'Hitler, ses interprétations restent légendaires. On rappelera l' attitude si digne de Knappertbusch.

We understood very much, and very easy, what you wanted to say, don't worry !

as this is one of the most sublime, beautiful and transcendental works in all of music, I would say your characterization is merely a sad projection of your own shallow soul

Yes, the European Declaration and the Treaty of Paris establishing the ECSC were signed in 1951. So Italy was indeed (or about to become) an ally of (West) Germany - and of France, Belgium, the Netherlands, and Luxembourg. I guess you're saying that this recording is sort of reflective of the birth of European unity then?

Many people apologize and hold the sides in politics, nobody listens to the culture inheritance as it is, no matter who performs (and in this case it's exquisite performance). This music was made in 1866-7 or so, who cared about allies, bloody 20th century slaughtery and hate of nowadays? Please, step aside if you dislike, or simply say, I suggest: 'I don't like this music, this tradition, European culture and Wagner!', without nowadays politics involved.

Oh dear I disagree so much. This is sublime.