Will Computers Ever Think Like Human Beings?

Will Computers Ever Think Like Human Beings? - with Vint Cerf

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The rise of artificial intelligence has seen computers beating chess experts and performing incredibly complex tasks. But why can’t they think the same way we do?
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We have built incredibly powerful, multi-layered, neural networks capable of learning incredibly quickly and carrying out seemingly impossible tasks, but they still can’t always tell the difference between a polar bear and a dishwasher.
In this talk ‘Father of the Internet’ Vint Cerf explores why it is so challenging for any computer-based system, however elaborate, to reason in the same way we do.
Vinton G. Cerf is vice president and Chief Internet Evangelist for Google. He contributes to global policy development and continued spread of the Internet. Widely known as one of the "Fathers of the Internet," Cerf is the co-designer of the TCP/IP protocols and the architecture of the Internet. He has served in executive positions at MCI, the Corporation for National Research Initiatives and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency and on the faculty of Stanford University.
This talk was filmed in the Ri on 9 March 2020.
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@cyberdelicxp9125 3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad The Architect is speaking normally for us dummies. He seems really chill when not having to blackmail The One into reloading the Prime Program.

@quelorepario 4 жыл бұрын

But but why did he create the third version of the Matrix, and did he have to destroy Zion six times?

@michagardea7253 4 жыл бұрын

Nice one! :D

@quelorepario 4 жыл бұрын

@@michagardea7253 inexorably indubitably ergo yes

@gh8447 4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 Took me a moment. That's a good one.

@crimsonhalo13 4 жыл бұрын

Because mechanical tentacles. Everyone likes mechanical tentacles.

@quelorepario 4 жыл бұрын

@@crimsonhalo13 giggidy

@joejeffrey1436 4 жыл бұрын

On march 9th I went to see this lecture and so far it has been one of the most memorable moments of my year. This is the first lecture I had ever been to and the atmosphere of the room was something I had never experienced before. Before I came I had no idea who vint Cerf was, but during the talk he completed captured my attention, I was amazed at how much this one man had innovated and learned in his lifetime. As a new experience it was absolutely worthwhile seeing a lecture in person and the things that he said had stuck in my mind for the weeks to come. I am looking forward to when lectures like this will take place again after quarantine, because I can't wait to have another experience like this. Even though it has only been 2 months since I saw this lecture, I feel that it has completed changed my outlook and attitude towards my future for studying and working in Computer Science. I am very glad that I stepped out of my comfort zone to attend this lecture, because it has influenced me more than a KZfaq video ever could.

@ronniecollum8794 4 жыл бұрын

joe -- are you enthralled , sounds like it .he is smart , no doubt but he and his ideas about deciding who to send through and who to hold back reeks .

@chensun2427 4 жыл бұрын

Am i the only one thinking that this professor looks like the FATHER of the MATRIX?

@pietervandermeulen9718 4 жыл бұрын

Didn't you mean the 'architect'? (By the way, thanks for relating this topic to the novelist William Gibson. The 'inspirator' for manny people who are in to this kind of science).

@chensun2427 4 жыл бұрын

@@pietervandermeulen9718 ah yes i did

@SinanAkkoyun 4 жыл бұрын

Well, he is the father of the internet, so...

@fultzjap 4 жыл бұрын

I came here just to say that and I'm relieved someone else did. Even his voice a little??

@technicalmachine1671 4 жыл бұрын

The architect was modelled directly after him. Funny that he'd be talking about this kind of thing.

@hvanmegen 4 жыл бұрын

what an amazing speaker.. he goes from simple example, extends on it, and gently pushes you into the deep end of the pool where you're swimming in understanding before you even realize that you've just learned an entirely new way of looking at neural networks.. brilliant! I love it! 😄👍

@rayzorrayzor9000 4 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you, I was looking for a subject to fall asleep to and I was in two minds wether this subject would be too hard to follow whilst in a semi sleep state but wow he made it soo easy to follow (and no I didn’t fall asleep BUT I’m so glad cos of what I’ve learned) 😂

@aerobique 4 жыл бұрын

@JP interesting reasoning

@UtraVioletDreams 4 жыл бұрын

4:52 Richard Feynman

@RedBatRacing 4 жыл бұрын

Robert's diagrams were far more pleasing to the eye. He was the artistic one in the Feynman family

@UtraVioletDreams 4 жыл бұрын

@@RedBatRacing lol. Indeed, but at first no one took him serious. They did not understand the true meaning behind his art.

@Hiker58 4 жыл бұрын

Just an observation about Feynman diagrams ... I once searched for a Feynman diagram on Google that was both simple to understand and busy enough to be fun for a casual reader of a report I wrote. It's stunning how many diagrams are out there with the space/time scale backwards. Forget social media, that's one of the most disappointing things I've seen on the Internet.

@oscill8ocelot 4 жыл бұрын

@@Hiker58 Flipping the axes has no effect on the physics the diagram is describing; time is symmetric in physics. If you take a diagram of a particle / antiparticle pair annihilating on contact and producing energetic photons, the time-reversal of that diagram describes an energetic photon spontaneously producing a particle / antiparticle pair. It's the same process but in reverse. You can do this with all the Feynman diagrams.

@Tondadrd 4 жыл бұрын

@@oscill8ocelot I believe you but according to some KZfaq videos I have watched the Universe doesn't seem to be symmetric in either time, space, ... the third thing.

@qclod 4 жыл бұрын

A few minutes in, and I already love how Mr. Cerf talks. Looking forward to this.

@Project_Kritical 4 жыл бұрын

Completely agree

@billkemp9315 4 жыл бұрын

Vint is absolutely one of the most amazing minds I have ever met in person!

@SinanAkkoyun 4 жыл бұрын

Brag

@billkemp9315 4 жыл бұрын

@@SinanAkkoyun well a brag would be me telling everyone that I am working with him...which I am, I was just honestly telling what I personally feel about him.

@SinanAkkoyun 4 жыл бұрын

@@billkemp9315 Wow, that's awesome! o.o I take it back, lol. May I ask how exactly you work with him?

@SinanAkkoyun 4 жыл бұрын

@Sparkle Plenty ?

@monad_tcp 4 жыл бұрын

I want more of this gentleman speaking. No, it was only 1h.

@daphne4983 4 жыл бұрын

Resembles Darwin

@kusulas24 3 жыл бұрын

is amazing this man, is hard hearing and is an father's of internet inventing protocol tcp/ip is the internet of now. Believe that he is working with Google like vice for evangelice the internet now via interplanetary protocol, the problem send and receive data is lost data and encriptacion is a big challenge :) using quantic computation :). How i know about it?, im too a person hard hearing..

@byrnemeister2008 4 жыл бұрын

Great talk. Very good high level overview neural networks. Social media psychology etc. Incredibly humble guy. Invented the internet but didn’t mention it once. Very articulate and clear presentation. I will be looking for more presentation from Mr Cerf.

@autohmae 4 жыл бұрын

Let's remember and he would tell you, he didn't do all that work alone. Many people worked on it.

@jimwyatt715 4 жыл бұрын

The internet is an extension of the world wide web. The work of sir tim berners. Leigh. Look it up.

@byrnemeister2008 4 жыл бұрын

Jim Wyatt LOL no. The World Wide Web is an application that runs on top of the internet. TCP/IP is the foundation. Look it up. LOL.

@andrewstoll4548 4 жыл бұрын

Ummmmm Al Gore invented the internet. 🤪😜🤣

@autohmae 4 жыл бұрын

@@andrewstoll4548 does anyone know what Al Gore did do ? If I understand it correctly he was on the most active member of the committee that opened up the Internet from government only project to allowing the commercial Internet to develop.

@Hypotemused 3 жыл бұрын

What a treat. I haven't seen a Vint Cerf talk in ages. I learnt about how TCP/IP and packet switching worked from one of his lectures almost a decade ago... He was so clear that it pushed me to learn distributed systems and changed my thinking. I would have never have gotten into tech without seeing his talk 10 years back. I'd love to shake his hand and thank him one day.

@flikkie72 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, I didn't want to watch the entire lecture, but ended up doing so - such a gripping talk!

@xntumrfo9ivrnwf 4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting talk but only ~10% is directly related to the title of the video/presentation...

@Blackmark52 4 жыл бұрын

"10% is directly related to the title" I'd say 10% was exploring the question in the title, 90% was examining the evidence for why it was answered as it was.

@JP-jg4ne 4 жыл бұрын

@@Blackmark52 He never related any of it back to human intelligence vs. computer intelligence as far as I could tell... Rather I think Cerf was giving a general talk, part of which included a bit specifically on human intelligence vs. A.I. This video could have been given many titles as there were quite a few subjects talked about, the uploader has chosen the one they hope to get the most views with.

@Blackmark52 4 жыл бұрын

@@JP-jg4ne "chosen the one they hope to get the most views with" That may be true. But most of the talk was on the inherent limits of computer systems premised on their difference to human thought. And the end introduced foibles of human brains because of their inherent dislike of uncertainty. Something that you would never want to program into a computer. Everything did relate to the idea of computers and human brains being fundamentally different.

@JP-jg4ne 4 жыл бұрын

@@Blackmark52 He did say he's not an expert on the brain so guess that's why the talk was focused more on the A.I side. I didn't really think the 'will computers ever think like human beings?' question was considered as the title would suggest, which I thought was funny as he actually talked about social media, likes and attention in the video.

@Blackmark52 4 жыл бұрын

@@JP-jg4ne " question (wasn't) considered as the title would suggest," That may depend upon how you think of the question. I think of a conscious brain as fundamentally different from any binary system no matter how complex. Cerf explains what he can about the fundamental unit in the brain and notes that we don't know entirely how neurons work and know less regarding the implications to human perception and thought. He then explains how computers learn differently from human brains. And finishes with human-computer interaction.

@ChrisStolba 4 жыл бұрын

I find it dangerous that these academic types are saying extremists or alarmists messaging is dangerous because (1) it is opinion on what is extreme, (2) sometimes there needs to be extreme messages, and (3) if they recommend censoring extreme messages than all it takes is the power structure to label speech as extreme to censor it, regardless of if it is truly "extreme".

@mariushusejacobsen3221 4 жыл бұрын

(4) If the extreme message is legitimately bad, censorship will boost its credibility and perceived relevance.

@TS-jm7jm 4 жыл бұрын

(5) sometimes the extremists have valid points, and further if those points are ignored/suppressed long enough and unaddressed then those points will become a rallying cry in a revolution. (6) revolutions tend to be violent.

@quelorepario 4 жыл бұрын

(7) all above points are invalid because they are extrapolations from a wrong premise

@TS-jm7jm 4 жыл бұрын

@@quelorepario (8) the above point is a point about itself.

@mariushusejacobsen3221 4 жыл бұрын

@@quelorepario Mind explaining what the wrong premise is? 1 is practically tautological. "X is extreme" is an opinion. Since you disagree (with all points), please show how you *measure* the extremeness of a message, rather than opine on it, and how your threshold for "extreme" is not a matter of opinion. 2 is a given since without anything 'extreme', the band of what is not extreme will shrink until there is. Since you disagree (with all points), please explain how the phenomenon of "purity spiral" occurs, without relying on the same premises that you call false. 3 is an observation that has historically been consistently true. 5 is an observation of history. I would add it being dependent on the point being relevant for enough people. At which point they would be unlikely to censor it in the first place. 6, given that we're talking about politics, has "exceptions that confirm the rule". Which is why it says "tends to be". Since you state you disagree with all of the points, please give plausible alternate explanations for each, or if that's your angle, why these observations are not relevant. 4 is an observation with the same premises as the Streisand effect, which is well documented at this point. So your argument, that all points come from a bad premise, necessarily needs to disprove the Streisand effect. By appearances, you're just rejecting it, without much thought, as a response to cognitive dissonance, which would mean your world view doesn't go well with reality. If, rather than engage with the above questions, you'd rather modify your statement to be more precise, I'll accept that as well. However, after you said anything in the first place, stopping here only vindicates your opponents.

@MultiNacnud 4 жыл бұрын

Dear Mr Cerf: The Sun paper is of a reasonable quality.It's what is written in it not so much so.

@Silly.Old.Sisyphus 4 жыл бұрын

indeed so; in this difficult times, its excellent absorption qualities make it a practicable substitute, although it does make it delicately tricky to explain to the missus where that big red crimson mark on your bum came from and why you chose to not use Page Three instead

@MultiNacnud 4 жыл бұрын

@William White. How about any newspaper that that tells the truth . One that doesn't accuse Liverpool football fans of stealing wallets at Hillsborough. Or a newspaper that didn't have a pro independence stance in it's Scottish edition and a pro Unionist stance in it's English edition, just to get more readers .How about the Sun's headline 1 in 5 muslims support Jihadists (23rs November 2015),total lies.

@martink6092 4 жыл бұрын

@William White there is a wide selection of entertaining fiction available, some even better than The Sun, by such obscure English authors as J Austen, C Dickens, & W Shakespeare.

@TS-jm7jm 4 жыл бұрын

@@martink6092 well played sir.

@ahumanbeingamnayplaceholde1746 4 жыл бұрын

@@martink6092 Well played

@GasterPoppe 3 жыл бұрын

Bless this man, because of him i can talk to people that obsess over the same movies, shows, books, and ect. as me, get updates on what's new up here, and text

@duli3595 4 жыл бұрын

One of the best talks I listened to! A beautiful argument for the scientific method! Only tiny confusion arose when discussing the vectors in NN. Among other things this talk made me think again about human decisionmaking by a "rule of thumb logic".Congrats RI!

@l0g1cseer47 4 жыл бұрын

One of the greatest critical thinking teacher! Truthful one!

@shainemaine1268 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah but I think he's confused about what sports are all about

@l0g1cseer47 4 жыл бұрын

@@shainemaine1268 if you can specify to the appropriate time frame of the video would be helpful?

@josenellandrewtumulak2400 4 жыл бұрын

Sometimes I can't believe the INVENTOR OF THE INTERNET is still alive. Great man.

@KuraSourTakanHour 4 жыл бұрын

That's just proof the internet isn't as old as we feel it is. It's barely in its 30s

@missymoonwillow6545 4 жыл бұрын

the decepticons gave us internet.

@josenellandrewtumulak2400 4 жыл бұрын

@@KuraSourTakanHour My thoughts too. It's so young but has so radically changed the way we operate.

@janethenry518 4 жыл бұрын

So it ISNT Al Gore? lol

@autohmae 4 жыл бұрын

@@KuraSourTakanHour 30s ? I think you are confusing the WWW (World Wide Web) with the Internet. The WWW is just one application on top of 'a system to transport information' between computers. Email would be an other application (al though email is actually older than the Internet) that uses the underlying infrastructure that we all Internet. The Internet came from what used to be ARPANET which was first started in late 1960s or early 1970s. The first implementation of what we today would recognize and call Internet was in 1975. Email is from 1971 it was used to send messages of people working on the same computer (people had terminals connected to the same computer, thus sharing computers). The @-sign pronounced 'at' was later added to be able to send email to people on other systems. That was possible because computers were connected to the Internet thus able to exchange information. Anyway, Vint Cerf worked on the Internet, not WWW.

@SJsAdv 4 жыл бұрын

I like this guy's way of thinking. He's pointing out so many good things that so few people even realize.

@kryptonite7491 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for an insightful look at the progression of computing. (From someone who got onto computers in 1966 and is still interested.)

@louiscorprew7970 4 жыл бұрын

🤯 Fantastic lecture!!

@kongesnok 4 жыл бұрын

Damn, that was a whole lot of interesting stuff that had nothing to do with the title of the video.

@Hexanitrobenzene 4 жыл бұрын

I agree.

@kagannasuhbeyoglu 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Very interesting informatives.

@qugart. 4 жыл бұрын

It's kind of awe-inspiring to watch Vint Cerf talking about networks only because of his works on networks

@SumoCumLoudly 4 жыл бұрын

"The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than the question of whether a submarine can swim." - Edsger Dijkstra

@mxcollin95 4 жыл бұрын

Great lecture!!!

@avatarofenlightenment386 4 жыл бұрын

Vint is utterly correct in his inferences from the scientific method to critical thinking more generally. Science is not a doctrine but a process of thinking about the validity of one's own premises, beliefs, and assumptions.

@GonzoTehGreat 3 жыл бұрын

24:12 Possibly the most important part of the lecture... He seems to explain how Neural Networks are not using Feature Selection [en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feature_selection] when they perform Classification via Supervised Learning, but are instead looking for correlations between mappings in multi (higher)dimensional vector spaces.

@ssiddarth 4 жыл бұрын

Great talk by a Great man, it was an absolute joy to watch this Thanks RI

@flightofthecondor 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dr. Cerf. I am a semi-retired journalist who wrote about ICT and I met and spoke to you briefly at an ICANN event in Kuala Lumpur 10 or more years ago and yes, I am of the same opinion that at least for now and perhaps for a long time in the future, computers and AI will not have the same thinking capacity and flexibility as humans nor even be able to be conscious of their existence, even though they can carry out specific tasks or a set of specific tasks very much faster than humans, under the control of algorithms defined by humans which they process but they are lost in situations and circumstances which fall outside the scope of their set or sets of algorithms. In all my years of writing about the ICT industry, I have encountered to many claims by tech-futurists, cyber-utopians, tech-marketers, tech seminar speakers and so forth who have made rather starry-eyed, idealist or opportunistic claims about the extent to which ICT, the World Wide Web, digital media and so forth would "revolutionise" or lives and empower us to challenge the powers that be and to an extent these have, however more often than not, the World Wide Web, digital media and social media has allowed us to harmlessly and ineffectively rant and rave in a sandbox whilst the powers that be mostly ignore us and carry on with business as usual.

@KipIngram Жыл бұрын

SO MANY good points! Excellent presentation. I have to say (this is a compliment) that Vint's dry and courteous sense of humor reminds me of Bob Newheart's. 🙂

@quelorepario 4 жыл бұрын

For those who don't know who he is: he's actually one of the "architects" of the _backbone_ of the Internet. He is the inventor of TCP/IP along with Bob Kahn at DARPA in the seventies, back when the "network of network" was known as the ARPANET. Those who are confusing with the inventor of WWW/HTTP, firstly that didn't exist until the 90s and secondly was invented by Tim Berners-Lee at CERN.

@darkpandemic5802 4 жыл бұрын

thanks for sharing

@WetDoggo 4 жыл бұрын

Wow this was a good presentation. One you figure out how speech pattern you realize that you have enough time to process what he's said. I think this was very interesting 👌 I definitely learned some things

@TrippSaaS 2 жыл бұрын

I love how he intended to offend people with the Sun comment😂 he’s one of the most humble speakers I’ve ever heard. He didn’t even mention the fact that he’s gotten a Turing Award after telling people that it was the CS equivalent of the Nobel Prize.

@polla2256 4 жыл бұрын

When the man from Google says use your mind not the machine you really take note. Brilliant talk.

@wills8288 4 жыл бұрын

No problem with any of the lecture other than this one thing he mentioned: "Google suppresses those people that generate bad ideas and elevates those with good ideas." Question, good sir: How do you know you are correct? As you say, knowledge and science are best guesses and you must always be ready to admit you are wrong. How will you know if you are wrong if you silence those "data points" that don't fit your models? Wow!

@JOSHUAWARREN16 4 жыл бұрын

@joemerino3243 4 жыл бұрын

Somehow being a computer expert makes him competent to discern the validity of literally any source of information on the internet. He can tell the 'quality level' of a newspaper, no doubt by how well it confirms his preconceived notions. What a disappointment.

@stevenharris8159 4 жыл бұрын

Will you have a good comment about thinking critically but not deep enough. Information quality is an ethical issue based on values. How are these values created? Well they are based on a system or network. Just like the shared connection of neurons and the assumed protocol of the internet, there is an assumption that Google's information quality algorithm has a correct answer. Regardless of what the answer, is you don't get one without the assumption, hypothesis, input. I'm not saying this is good or bad/correct or incorrect that Google does this. Doing so would be taking my value system and comparing that to Google's which is the whole point of this lecture. AI doesn't have a one size fit all.

@woooweee 4 жыл бұрын

Google's own behavior proves the point, "algorithmic fairness" produces things like an image search for a "american inventors" coming up with a page full of African Americans. This isn't elevation, its deliberate ideological bias. They have proven themselves not credible in matters of objectivity. Mentioning snopes was the cherry on top, sites like that just cherry pick in one direction nitpicks as a method of propaganda. Hoaxes like clockboy are conveniently not "fact checked" as they don't benefit their narrative, a few copied newspaper articles so they can pretend they handled the subject is all they will bother with, and its like this consistently. I mean seriously, feminism alone doesn't survive a "fact check", and places like google will bend every rule to ignore the data points on that one.

@larstruelsen2483 4 жыл бұрын

Good point. Ironically, a large portion of the talk was about the pitfalls of human bias, yet Google is somehow immune to it. It doesn't add up.

@basic48 4 жыл бұрын

Superb thinking

@ejosh3420 Жыл бұрын

Very wonderful speech

@inaamilahi5007 3 жыл бұрын

Wow!!! It's an amazing talk given by an amazing person.

@thelonious-dx9vi 4 жыл бұрын

This is an incredibly brilliant person. He casually mentions TCP/IP, casually omitting that he invented it. And that the entire world runs on it, including the delivery of this video to whatever device you're watching it on. Mind-bogglingly impactful dude. And I never even knew he was this cool to listen to.

@foobar1500 4 жыл бұрын

I also noticed that it's interesting that he did mention TCP... but didn't mention that maybe his most known merit is that he wrote the first implementation of it. I'm not really certain if he would have been essential it getting done, but sure he implicitly downplayed his part quite massively...

@crimsonkhan3815 4 жыл бұрын

I definitely use that nobel prize illustration (dunno where though). Do i need to pay anything to Mr.Cerf when it happens?

@Newtube_Channel 4 жыл бұрын

Summed up the past 20 years in 1 hour. The quintessential gramp who has a tab on everything.

@everythingisrealrivers6582 2 жыл бұрын

this will be the sixth time we have refuted the idea of AI domination, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it - Vint Cerf

@realmofwushurichard7767 4 жыл бұрын

great talk

@igecnovak3200 4 жыл бұрын

The Architect from MATRIX really exists!!! :-)) Anyway amazing lecture from brilliant mind, thanks for upload.

@nicoroehr 4 жыл бұрын

45:00 Spot on! Having done technical support for computer software for decades I have made the experience that most people don't want to be advised. They want to be comforted that they were right all along and everyone and everything else is wrong. And the higher the rank of the support seeker, the less he/she/div is willing to accept an advice that goes against his/her/d belief system. For example, when a customer tells you in advance that he is an Electronics and Communication Engineer and that he is MCSE certified - you tell them to open a window, and they get up from their computer, walk across the room and open their office window. And hell forbid you tell them afterwards they were wrong doing that.

@richardbunt2278 4 жыл бұрын

This video keeps on coming up on my video list .got fead up with these videos

@charlesmayberry2825 4 жыл бұрын

I agree with the point about supporting products, I have several devices that I have bought, that are a horrible buggy mess. you find out the driver is open source and just blatantly ripped, and unchanged, they offer no support, and you end up digging through the software source yourself and patching, and modifying it in a way to even get it to work. It's a serious headache, that I honestly do because I like the challenge but the point remains that I shouldn't have to be a programmer, to have my wireless headphones working -_-

@juliashenandoah3965 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video, thanks for uploading! I personally think because future computers will also always work in a pure electrical ways based on transistors, they will never achieve the true complexity of a mammal`s brain that is working in electrical but also biochemical ways in the synaptic cleft. A computer will never enjoy happiness based on dopamine serotonin blood-sugar and other chemicals, a computer will never have any body-awareness and therefore will never fear pain discomfort hunger thirst and death. Even adding billions over billions over more billions of transistors in every chip in the oncoming decades ..... it won`t change anything but make only pure mathematical processes faster for better gaming graphics and more sophisticated programs. Thinking self-aware machines will probably wishful thinking forever, even when mankind will be able to create perfect robots in the year 2100 (or maybe earlier Boston Dynamics can already build bipedal machines) these machines will only be capable of do exactly what their programming dictates them, but never will processors based on transistor technology become self-aware or even develop feelings. But from a software point of view will be possible to at least simulate hyper-realistic machines who accurately can act like humans based on how complex their programming is.

@AnExPor 4 жыл бұрын

I wish you were one of my college professors. Very good subject matter. The software testing bit at the end is on point.

@jbiwer32 2 жыл бұрын

32:06 - 32:48 truer words have never been spoken.

@stardust6769 4 жыл бұрын

Wonder how self driving car auto pilot would handle the following traffic sign in Melbourne Australia, " Turn left from the right", also known as a "hook turn" 😅.

@mrheem 4 жыл бұрын

They won't have to think like us, they'll be us and we will be them

@austinmoore2672 4 жыл бұрын

I know it isnt but the Alan Moore credited in the description I wish so much to be the writer of Watchmen etc. Edit. This guy is amazing my god

@keefjunior4061 4 жыл бұрын

Mostly curious to see how many architect comments are here. Am not disappointed!

@HebaruSan 3 жыл бұрын

The sports team fan analogy is not entirely apt. Fans of rival teams can still relate over their shared interest in the sport, often with some good natured pro forma teasing over beers. Getting online hostility down to the level of that between fans of rival sports teams would probably be a marked improvement.

@marklawes1859 4 жыл бұрын

I think this was the best RI lecture I have ever seen! Bravo!

@andrescolon 4 жыл бұрын

One day I had the opportunity to shake his hand in the University of Puerto Rico after he gave us an amazing talk on the history of the internet. I'm a huge fan of his mind.

@Scarletraven87 4 жыл бұрын

Before asking "Should they?" consider you're in control of the scrollbar.

@Randgalf 4 жыл бұрын

Throttling information that doesn't fit in your bias is a very dangerous thing and the one challenge the internet age needs to conquer. This man, smart as he is, managed to contradict himself big time in this lecture.

@auntiecarol 4 жыл бұрын

Coolest name in the history of computing!

@grproteus 4 жыл бұрын

Came here for answers about the Matrix. Was not disappointed. (Was expecting more "vis-a-vis" and "apropos" though)

@charleslong5373 4 жыл бұрын

One thing you might do is measure the circumference of a new-born’s head, and then measure the circumference of a mature adult’s head. Remember that volume is related to circumference by the cube of the linear dimension. The average volume of an adult brain is 1.4 liters. Some people have brains as big as 1.6 liters. The determined volume of a little grey alien’s brain is 2.2 liters.

@tombeaven5994 4 жыл бұрын

Ide like to hear more from this guy

@bimbumbamdolievori 4 жыл бұрын

sciencee is approximation. Liked the humble statement. You are really into pretty much anything

@UlaisisP 4 жыл бұрын

It looked more like a pitch sale than a worthy RI lecture. With the appropiate "bajada de linea"

@yash1152 4 жыл бұрын

0:13 - 0:19 i was thinking exactly the same thing.

@soberhippie 4 жыл бұрын

A great hour of Vint Cerfing for me. Thank you very much.

@nigeljames4038 4 жыл бұрын

good speaker

@tjohnson4062 4 жыл бұрын

He set off my assistant while talking about companies taking responsibility for their software, skipped back 3 times before I realize it was him saying "at Google"...

@Direkin 4 жыл бұрын

"They gave it the rules and told it to go play with itself, which it did for quite a long while, and within a few days it had learned..." that the only winning move is not to play?

@DampeS8N 4 жыл бұрын

That's not what I learned when I played with myself for a few days. I learned how important lubrication is.

@noellelavenza494 4 жыл бұрын

See, that's actually been encountered a bunch of times. Someone used NEAT (NeuroEvolution of Augmenting Toplogies, a form of neural network) to play Tetris, and the moment before it ran out of room and would have lost, it paused the game and refused to play any further. The only winning move... was not to play.

@TS-jm7jm 4 жыл бұрын

@@noellelavenza494 that's pretty cool

@porcelinaoceania8212 2 жыл бұрын

I’m amazed by this mans intelligence. Absolutely!

@winstoncat6785 4 жыл бұрын

Problem with "facts" is that in many internet disputes, or flat out "fake news" events, you aren't dealing with something based on a law of nature, but rather dealing with narratives constructed on "established truths". These always have "wiggle room". If everything were based on laws of nature, disputes would be easily and quickly resolved. Although, a lot of the problem with internet communication is deliberately vexatious behaviour.

@kattarhindu3224 Жыл бұрын

Legend 🙏🙏🙏🙏

@morthim 4 жыл бұрын

"if you see trolling, people who deliberately say things to incite reaction. the reward they get is generating that reaction" that is the most fair comment i've heard someone say about trolling ever. however it isn't an intrinsic reward for some types of trolls. teachers for example don't just want reactions to their trolling, they want to get paid. getting a reaction is just the means to getting paid. the same is true for people who get paid by advertisers. what is occuring in all forms of reinforcement or Q-learning, regardless of computers, is the reinforcement of rewarded behaviors. monetization methods are a form of reward, as is popularity, as is political relevance.

@codeoptimizationware2803 4 жыл бұрын

@morthim : Hmm. Are you the jackass that "invented" reaction-shots?

@wtfbbq 4 жыл бұрын

While I agree with what you're saying about reinforcement and reward mechanisms, I definitely don't agree that "trolling" broadly applies to anybody who's getting a "reward for their behavior". Teachers are most definitely not "trolling" by teaching, nor are people getting paid by an advertiser to say something (perhaps such as an athlete endorsing a product) trolling. Teachers ARE getting paid to say things, yes, but they aren't looking for reactions as their form of payment. For the teacher, deep down they don't really care if a student passes or fails, as long as they've done their job they get their monetary reward. The athlete endorsing a product doesn't really care if people actually buy and use that product, they are getting their monetary reward regardless. For a troll, the reaction itself IS the reward. It's just very strange to hear somebody essentially saying teachers are trolls.... And not only that but using the term "troll" so broadly that it encompasses nearly all of humanity and that anybody getting any type of reward for any type of behavior is a troll. It's not a correct use of the term whatsoever.

@agffga8757 4 жыл бұрын

@@wtfbbq I'd add that literally every living being is a troll if we adopt that definition

@brentwilbur 4 жыл бұрын

The sum total of all the processes in the brain produce the phenomenon that we experience as consciousness, though no single cell is aware of itself or the others. The same could ultimately be said for the internet. There could be an intelligence out there that we are simply incapable of communicating with because it is quite literally on a totally different scale.

@mateusneto6687 4 жыл бұрын

There should be a international norm about the control of information, exchange of messages and other files of midea alike by goverments and corporations, that use censorship,banning and other ways of controling and harassment of users opinions and ideas, this practices diminishes the rigth of free speach. There are many examples of these in the internet around the globe.

@jooky87 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks to one of the Internet legends to put down a lot of dumb internet hype out there. Thank you Vint!

@ghostrider.13 4 жыл бұрын

They already do think like we do. Where have you been?

@poncepg4991 4 жыл бұрын

There’s nothing is absolute in this world except Variation.

@DaKoopaKing 4 жыл бұрын

Is there a Q&A for this?

@TheRoyalInstitution 4 жыл бұрын

Yep! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fd2RZpul39WWfpc.html

@ZeHoSmusician 4 жыл бұрын

Odd - it doesn't show in your list of uploaded videos... (Could explain why it has so few views, too...)

@extrastuff9463 4 жыл бұрын

@@ZeHoSmusician It's kinda normal lately, in the past they had Q&A videos in the main feed but now it's always linked to at the end of a talk and in the description. Usually up same day or a bit later in my experience. I guess it's a deliberate choice to keep the feed less cluttered? But for full lectures they are consistently there.

@phillipholmes5206 4 жыл бұрын

Computers can basically only output what you put into them. AI systems at the moment only have a list of questions and answers already input, then a word matching program returns an answer for a set number of matched words in any given question. It's not that complicated. We can train them to do specific things, like play chess, and make them learn by creating deviation algorithms that deviate from a path when they lose, and keep to the path when they win, then store the results, which is a basic learning program. Getting a computer to think 'out of the box' to come up with totally new ideas, or new answers to existing questions, is a lot harder. Not saying it can never be done, but we are a long way off doing this. Pretty much like driverless cars can only drive safely at very slow speeds, driving at speeds normal humans take for granted is still some time away. Sonic sensors are not that accurate, analysis of camera input is enormously complex, which is why existing systems you may think are nearly perfect will inexplicably run over a cyclist. People who don't understand how computers work believe they are better than humans, and will thus make better drivers, but anybody who is a programmer, who has tried to do this, will know they are far from being perfect enough to actually drive safely.

@n7565j 4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting topic!!! I would have enjoyed a deeper dive into the security side though... Oh well, guess you can't have it all ;-) Anyone interested in security, I suggest checking out Steve Gibson, he does a podcast called Security Now which is fantastic!!! Excellent video, thank you T.R.I.!!!

@justinheads5751 4 жыл бұрын

Weird how the URL's in that picture of "the internet" don't actually exist. Why not use the real names?

@TS-jm7jm 4 жыл бұрын

interesting, gets the noggin joggin

@tarquinftangftangolebiscui8606 4 жыл бұрын

Very sobering.

@Meninx87 2 жыл бұрын

He literally looks like the personification of Science and Wisdom.

@nagihangot6133 4 жыл бұрын

Oh look it's The Architect

@kingrobert1st 4 жыл бұрын

You got it the wrong way round. It should be "Will humans ever think like computers?"

@Seafox0011 4 жыл бұрын

But maybe there's a third option ... both will think like something else.

@rox4884 4 жыл бұрын

We also have to remember that being smarter isn't necessarily better in evolutionary terms, there was a species of humans that had larger brains than we do, yet here we are and where are they.

@science212 2 жыл бұрын

He and Ted Nelson are great thinkers.

@daieast6305 4 жыл бұрын

oh shoot...i thought he really was going to sit down as it wont get any better

@UtraVioletDreams 4 жыл бұрын

I liked it. But I feel at the end, the lecture leaves the question "Will Computers Ever Think Like Human Beings?" unanswered. It was more about our own responsibility and awareness concerning information technology.

@autohmae 4 жыл бұрын

The answer is: not any time soon. The computer systems don't have nearly enough complexity yet. Maybe some advances could change that but greatly accelerating the development, but predicting the future is hard.

@Silly.Old.Sisyphus 4 жыл бұрын

i think that's unfair - he presents the facts and lets you draw your own conclusions. But if you are in desperate need of a binary answer, the answer is "Yes" - in fact, some of them already do (a bit) and some of them - the most famous ones right now, don't.