Will microLED Make Home Theater Projectors OBSOLETE?

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Will microLED Make Home Theater Projectors OBSOLETE?
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@Youthman 10 ай бұрын

@KING_DRANZER 10 ай бұрын

1. Well everything be it regular TVs or Projectors etc gonna end up as e-waste can't be helped and not gonna stop people from purchasing "New" stuff. 2. SONY and Trinnov got dual speaker phantom Center support. Where placing two speakers 1 below and 1 above the screen will create perfect phantom center channel. So yeah companies already implementing suitable workarounds for that. Good to see we are progressing at a fast pace. Seriously Something like KEF or JTR gonna be perfect for such installations. 3. The main thing holding it back is the Price. That will definitely take years to come down.

@philnicol8072 10 ай бұрын

You can't beat the perfectly flush projected picture , on a wall or screen. Everything is perfectly level, In regards to the axis of the projected image. On the off chance the mini led TV develops some stuck pixels. It's a 'weighty' problem. Though picture quality on a mini led screen is superb with brightness levels and vibrant 'as' colors and great blacks. Though still. Projected picture all the way ......... 📽️ 👍

@KING_DRANZER 10 ай бұрын

@@philnicol8072 Micro-LED when designed and installed right is seamless. No burn-in issue on that. Much wider viewing angles. As I said the drawback will always be the price. By the time 146" 160" comes down to being in affordable range projectors will get much much brighter at even lower budget range. Which will enable us to do brighter or larger installs.

@mohdshahzaibjazib2130 10 ай бұрын

make a video on planar brand led wall technology

@RedLeo-pf9yo 10 ай бұрын

With all due respect , i think all projecters should be thrown in the trash !!!!!!!

@SoCalVipers 10 ай бұрын

I recently talked to a video calibrator, and he had to calibrate a huge wall like that in a movie theater. He said that the center channel was developed by Meyer (I think) and it was mounted on the ceiling and pointed at the screen so that the sound would reflect back towards the viewer. I can't imagine that working well, but he said it was pretty good. On the video side, with that huge video wall, you're getting serious, real HDR that is impossible with projection because it washes itself out. My opinion, that I got form someone on AVS forum, is that an important aspect of the home theater experience is when it looks and feels like a real movie theater. A projector shooting light over your head onto a screen is a huge part of recreating that experience. Anything else is just a big TV. But once a 120" OLED TV is affordable, it'll be small enough to mount a center channel underneath, it'll have far better performance than most projectors, Then I think the market for projectors will significantly shrink. 120" is smallish for a dedicated home theater, but big enough for many people - perhaps myself included.

@MrCREWCRUSHIN95 10 ай бұрын

MicroLED will make OLED obsolete. They are two different things.

@100toeface 8 ай бұрын

LG already has a 98" OLED for 25k. I'm torn between that and spending the same money to 'go big' with a sony 7000 + SI light rejecting screen. I used to have an LG wallpaper TV, and wow was that picture something, it was like stuff was painted on to the wall, even though I had a bigger tv at the time, I often watched the OLED.

@Boxkerp 10 ай бұрын

Not at the price, but man I loved this TV.

@_Paul. 10 ай бұрын

We could put a center below and above the screen to create a phantom center

@SpencersStuff1777 10 ай бұрын

I hope microled takes over at some point. The scalability has massive potential. It'll have to be the right price though

@shinvergil 10 ай бұрын

Projection is easier on eyes.

@SpencersStuff1777 10 ай бұрын

@@shinvergil biased lighting. I switched over to active lighting in my room with my govees. It all reacts to what's on screen, I'll never go back. I call it Atmos for lighting. No eye fatigue since the room changes so actively with what's on screen I get some people don't like that, but for me, it's a game changer and creates true immersion

@PSYCHOV3N0M 10 ай бұрын

@@SpencersStuff1777I've never used a Govee T2 but based on the videos I've seen, it seems to be immersion-BREAKING while watching movies in the dark. I'll have to buy it and actually use it myself to see if my perspective changes.

@budala1969 10 ай бұрын

@@shinvergil True, lack of blue light in reflective displays is healthier for the eyes. But emissive displays have superior picture quality (sharpness, HDR, latency, VRR, etc).

@brennan_mclachlan 10 ай бұрын

@@shinvergilthat is fair, but I feel like that’s more applicable for things like monitors, as most won’t be sitting in their home theater all day(although that wouldn’t be the worst thing ever)

@jasoncoward7947 10 ай бұрын

Very good points made. I'm currently using my living room as my HT, not ideal. Looking to build my dedicated Theater Room in a few years. These are points to keep in mind for sure.

@jbones1453 10 ай бұрын

Funny you bring up the center channel. I know you have your entire front stage and subs behind your screen so that was the first thing I thought would give you an issue. I would love the a 98”ish tv but that’s the biggest I could go anywhere in my house. Great video!

@jadan2000 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, we definitely have a long time before those become a go to option in the HT world! great video Mike!

@JayRuf3438 10 ай бұрын

I recently bought an 85” micro LED and could barely fit it down the stairs to my media room. I almost got a 98” and glad I didn’t. Maybe once that make these things roll up, but weight and size is a serious issue. IMHO projectors and screens come with their own trade offs. IT’s just a choice of which one fits your space best.

@peterwu9346 10 ай бұрын

85" micro led? I think you are confusing between different panel technologies and mean you got a mini led as there are no 85"micro led available yet. Samsung has a 89" micro led but that is about 100k, a 85" would be close to 80k lol.

@sethpettman5491 10 ай бұрын

Great points. Definitely wouldn't have thought of a few of those things until you mentioned them 👍 I know for me I'll be sticking with PJ for the foreseeable future.

@mcramp20 10 ай бұрын

Great video, stay cool!!!

@hockeyplayer28 10 ай бұрын

Really interesting and informative video. Another strange look for micro-LED's is the strange off access look of the individual panel connection points, particularly in darker scenes. Micro-LED's are made up of individual tiles which are then connected together to build the size panel needed. On every one I've seen demonstrated, I can see ever so slight gaps in these connection points in dark or dim scenes. Once constructed, the panels can have a pieced together tile look, which I find distracting, compared to the smooth, uniform picture from a projector.

@RickRalstonAsumendi 10 ай бұрын

I found this particularly distracting with ambient light at Audio Advice Live. They need a better anti-reflective coating for a product this expensive.

@dmahan8841 3 ай бұрын

level adjustable vertical dual mono centers will completely solve this issue.. your welcome world! just add a time delay on the bottom center. doesn't even need to be in the processor. i'm gonna work on a grocery store Susi style cooling system to encircle the screen for cooling. this was a great review. the heat is a deal killer. period. awesome channel. shoot, paul below already beat me to it..

@Carl-iw9sy 10 ай бұрын

I want three of these microLED screens, one for each of my kid's bathrooms.

@mileskg21 10 ай бұрын

man i'm so ready for this tech to be in homes

@keepingupwiththejones2933 10 ай бұрын

❤❤ hope you enjoy your time in Atlanta

@Youthman 10 ай бұрын

I enjoy no matter where I go. Should be an amazing event

@MichaelM-to4sg 10 ай бұрын

Your last point is the most important. Of course we’ll see major drop in price, but this will always be a very high end product which will coincide with very high end sound system. The best upgrade we’ve done with ours is installing an acoustic transparent screen allowing LCR, not just center channel behind screen in our 9.4.6 Atmos system. It’s the most realistic presentation I’ve ever experienced short of the one time I viewed a showing at Skywalker Ranch. I would not give up that speaker placement regardless how spectacular the picture.

@100toeface 8 ай бұрын

I went to an LED business and viewed their screens in person. The impression I left with is, that for whatever price you pay, you would always get better quality/performance putting the same amount of money towards a projector/ALR screen. For example, even if I could get 'The Wall' 2k version for 70k, I could get better picture quality and size spending that same amount on a projector/ALR screen. I am also considering the 98" LG OLED tv, but I'm wondering if it is big enough for me or not.

@arisio58 10 ай бұрын

Amazing Youthman Big Screen Super Gear I loved Home Theater

@TMERUNNR 10 ай бұрын

Did you see the Tax Amount!!!😂 WHOA, STOP THE HORSES!!! Dang....

@GS-pk9rd 9 ай бұрын

Your environmental point is a very valid one. Size, weight, resources used, the heat generated and energy used in operation, disposal etc - all seem so unnecessary given you can have a high quality image from a far more efficient projector. TV's have their place: in living rooms, up to a certain size. Above that, or in a dedicated home theatre, a projector is the way forward.

@juliangst 10 ай бұрын

For blacked out home theatre rooms projectors will still have the advantage that you can install your center channel and subwoofer array (for a DBA or SBA) directly behind the screen. For living room home theatres or non light optimized rooms in general self emitting tech like micro LED or just huge TVs will always perform better

@ryankramer 10 ай бұрын

I know everyone always brings up the center channel, but I've seen a few implementations that mostly overcome it. (Two center speakers above and below that are angled and sum the signal) More complicated, more expensive, but not a bad alternative. But I'm glad you brought up subs. I can't see having subs behind this kind of screen. Rattles and being able to even get to the subs if there's an issue with them (much easier to just take a screen off the wall) seems like pretty big annoyances to me.

@SP95 10 ай бұрын

With DLP we are somewhat already in the MICRLED era so let's go all in

@lloydjames3806 7 ай бұрын

The center channel issue has been solved. Speakers across the top and bottom of the screen designed specifically for this purpose. Your exactly right in terms of heat, cost, and installation. Time will tell... Love your channel, keep it up. God Bless.

@Youthman 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind words. Yes, technology is coming along way.

@DustinFrancis 10 ай бұрын

They for sure will replace SOME home theater projectors, but projectors as a whole they won’t. Another big factor that I point out to a lot of people that they don’t realize is that a TV is transmissive light and can have a lot of negative side effects for eye health, where a projector image is reflected light which is MUCH easier on the eyes. It’s why we can have a 70” screen at the foot of our bed, it it’s still easy on the eyes for winding down at the end of the day…I’m super happy we did a projector for our bedroom because of that.

@mrsalamander9246 9 ай бұрын

This the number one reason I won't get a TV!

@musicman8270 4 ай бұрын

About the center, we used to go to the drive in and the speaker was hanging on the window. Nobody ever noticed.

@texast2595 10 ай бұрын

Ascendo has speakers they just released that are designed specifically for giant led screens. I've never heard them, so I don't know if they achieve their goal or not. But you should definitely check out the room ascendo built in partnership with Arled, it's AMAZING to put it mildly, you should demo it sometime. 260" led 2.35:1 screen, 80" subwoofer, and speakers that supposedly make it sound like the sound is coming from the middle of the screen. Have you seen that room Michael?

@Youthman 10 ай бұрын

I’m in an Uber now headed to Atlanta Home Theater for their event. They recently installed the flagship Ascendo speakers in their theater room. They also have the 50” in a 2ch setup.

@patrickmartin4482 10 ай бұрын

@@Youthman The Ascendo director is same as all other dual center solutions - it will work for one row, every other row it will not work as the delay is completely different from the upper compared to lower speaker. Very easy to find out in the moviecore in Germany.

@shanenevins1256 10 ай бұрын

Hey youthman hope all is well. are you still a klipsch supporter ? I was wondering if not was it do to their quality? Thank you in advance .

@willieford221 10 ай бұрын

Do you have a update on the YIO remote two

@Youthman 10 ай бұрын

Honestly, I wish I did. I haven’t heard any updates from them

@martinarrieta4536 10 ай бұрын

Lack of being able to place a center channel and possibly proper Left and Right angle placement might hamper folks. Sony’s new receivers have a mode for 2 Center channels, one ontop and one on the bottom of the display, that may solve this as they iterate on it. It might be a compromise some choose to have a better picture but sound takes a hit. Or if MicroLED becomes popular enough, Sound formats and Receivers will adopt something to help offset the center channel weakness.

@garryhammond3117 10 ай бұрын

No PJ replacement any time soon Michael. 😎 Projectors themselves are just starting to peak in performance now, and personally, I think any newer technology is a long way down the road, especially at their current price point.

@mudfan061 10 ай бұрын

I doubt they will replace projectors given the center channel issue. However, this tech will be great for sub 85” screens

@commanderrussels2612 10 ай бұрын

AVRs and processors are already coming up with top center and bottom center. I think they'll just do that. It'll be a compromise though, no matter how much we're told otherwise.

@Sienar7 10 ай бұрын

Most of those points are very valid. Apart from the one about the screen ratio. These screens absolutely can be configured in whatever ratio you want,.as you even hinted at. It's just a case of tile placement. There's so many benefits to be gained from emissive screen technologies. The biggest being HDR and support for amazing colour depth and realism that projector's can't hope to truly keep near pace with. Unless you have a Christie True RGB laser projector in a pitch black room of course. But even then,. it's a long way out. Emmisive screens with pixel level colour and brightness control (such as OLED, Micro LED and all the technologies that wlare still to come) are the future. Sony have already demonstrated that speaker channels can be positioned and pushed through the screen itself. Even MicroLED could be rendered obsolete by Nano rod LED and even Self Emmisive Quantum Dot screens. They both promise to be far cheaper and thinner (which makes it even easier for a centre channel to be incorporated into it).

@reggieeskridge3850 10 ай бұрын

The Led walls look great but it is the cost. I can’t say it will replace projectors as we can see projectors have been around a long time and I feel they are here to stay

@DerekBove 10 ай бұрын

These are great, practical points. I do love how OLED looks for HDR content and gaming, but there are drawbacks even if we had more affordable giant TVs. The big limitation for projectors is brightness - unless you can buy one of those 10,000 lumen Sony PJs.

@kougamecs3876 9 ай бұрын

But you what's funny, a company in China wants to create microled projectors. Using a technology called microled on silicon.

@tripbreaker 10 ай бұрын

The fact is - it’s here. Back in 2014 I went to a Sony store (when they still existed) to see the first 85” consumer display which went for $25k. Now you can get an 85” for $1700. It won’t take that long for the prices to get more consumer friendly. Oh yeah, apparently you need TWO (2) dedicated 20 amp breakers for that TV. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

@Art-is-craft 2 ай бұрын

The panel prices for those LED screens are about $3500. It is going to require several years of development to get it down. Long before that VR headsets will be producing IMAX scale cinema screens for people long before that.

@matthewpaul01 10 ай бұрын

The biggest potential issue I see that they are made of a bunch of panels. Over time the color and brightness of the different panels can change taking it from something that looks like a single cohesive screen to multiple screens put together. I’m not sure how to get around that

@justchilling4491 10 ай бұрын

You can buy a 140inch tv one complete screen I think it about £200k here the uk

@hifihometheater 10 ай бұрын

I personally, would love one but, I think the only way they will replace projector setups is if projector and screen manufacturers stop innovating. Until then, some people are always going to prefer one over the other for various reason but it will be interesting when the giant LED's become a realistic option price wise.

@commanderrussels2612 10 ай бұрын

Projectors do seem to have hit a bit of a wall lately in terms of innovation. The latest JVCs went crazy high in price and you don't get much more performance. The laser light engines are cool, but contrast doesn't seem to be getting much better and lumens aren't rising much. There is still a big gap between a projector and a standard display. I think my biggest gripe with the screen walls is that I can see the lines between the panels. Maybe okay watching certain content, but watching a movie this would really bother me. I have a feeling with my budget and goals, I'll be using a projector for a while.

@calibre00 10 ай бұрын

Pretty awesome for a dedicated room, but for most of us in a multi use space its just way too big for everyday use, imo projectors are always going to have a place in situations like mine where I have a motorized 120" screen coming down in front of a modest sized tv 55" in a living room. Just my 2c

@Art-is-craft 2 ай бұрын

There will also be TV assets as well.

@zenmorris182 10 ай бұрын

We need a new DOLBY atmos center channel so you can balance the six front speakers into a center focal point

@juniorniebles6048 10 ай бұрын

If you slightly tilt up a center channel would that make enough improvement to make it worth having a micro led TV ?

@budala1969 10 ай бұрын

As someone who's been doing exactly that WITH a PJ, absolutely. The AT screen benefits are greatly exaggerated by the "audiophile" crowd. I prefer the sharpness and brightness of a non-AT screen, and I'll certainly prefer the far superior picture quality of a micro LED, over slightly better speaker placement.

@Saturn2888 10 ай бұрын

I mean, I still use a TV, and am getting a 97" LG G2. It's already replaced a projector for me, but only because I also play games and care a lot about HDR. Center channel placement has never been an issue, and my TV's bottom is 30" off the ground.

@100toeface 8 ай бұрын

Why did you choose it over the Sony-VPL-XW7000ES with an ALR screen? Wouldn't the gaming performance on that projector be perfectly fine, and have a bigger screen? I am trying to decide between the two myself.

@Saturn2888 8 ай бұрын

@@100toeface there's no comparison. OLED has infinite black levels. It makes a difference and why Christie projectors are better. HDR is not even close. Projectors do 160 nits peak whereas as TV 1K nits. 120Hz is a must for a good gaming experience at this screen size with as close as I am to the screen. You'll feel sick otherwise. Same issue with VR. You need a room for a projector. This TV in my living room. It's not dark enough. ALR won't help. I have a projector in my bedroom and understand the light limitations. TVs are way superior.

@100toeface 8 ай бұрын

@@Saturn2888 Hmm, I'm still not sure. I currently am using (right now) a samsung The Frame 85" TV. I play age of empires 3 DE on it all the time and I only get 4k @ 60hz, but the tv has a 'gaming mode' with fast latency, and it is no problem at all, and I sit 8 feet away. I did have an LG 77" Wallpaper tv before (it broke after 13 months), which DID have an incredible OLED picture, better than my current TV. Sony has a demo CEDIA Expo 22 video on you tube where they use the projector with a stewart ALR screen in ambient room light conditions similar to what I have in my living room, and it seemed ok. The main thing is, a screen size of 200" vs 98", which size can also be adjusted easily using preprogramed screen sizes. I could get a stewart rigid glass screen built into a wall and adjust the size as needed. I do miss the amazing OLED wallpaper image though. Tough call.

@popcornbobGCC 10 ай бұрын

At the end of the day, it's still just a television. There is still something magical about front projection when showing movies. It gives movies a quality that is just...different. Magic aside, there is also a serious technical flaw in that you can't put speakers behind the screen like you can in front projection. Can't build a baffle wall. Hard to do proper masking. For optimal performance, it just limits you.

@arranstokes4080 10 ай бұрын

Its coming sooner than you think 110 inch is deffo coming and be affordable but yes we are looking at 2030 if we are been realistic. And center channel can easily be solved its been shown that with 3 way speaker pointing up and have seating designed for reclining so the ear at the right ange while eye view is up works exactly as intended. The sound is deffo not a big issue just means design it right and thibk about it. Although i will admit makes it extremely difficult to have multiple row seats. But for single row it can even be better if designed well.

@Art-is-craft 2 ай бұрын

We are going to have VR headsets long before that. And they will enable us to have an IMX scale experience from home.

@surgemaestro7355 10 ай бұрын

I was planning on building a home theater with one of those that was around 220" and was also going to add another Samsung Wall in the living that had double height ceiling, but I didn't win the $1.5B Mega Millions. Someone in Florida won it, was that you Youthman?

@lewis6720 10 ай бұрын

As you explained in the video youthman it will take some time for microled to become the norm. And we still don't know if it will be the norm. OLED continues to improve every year, Main weakness is brightness and something else may replace that so it's hard to say. At these prices I'm sure not waiting around for it.

@shaolin95 10 ай бұрын

No unless they come up with scope format 150" one for me.

@Pete_or_Peter4Long 10 ай бұрын

Which home theater chairs are you using in your theater?

@Linkone7 10 ай бұрын

It is the future...if costs can come down and they can eliminate gloss it will be great.

@scotth6814 10 ай бұрын

I would think a mono centre channel played through a speaker either side of the screen would sound like a source in between them. Stereo won't (each speaker playing something different), but if both speakers are playing exactly the same thing, it should fool the brain.

@michaelwyckoff7593 10 ай бұрын

Hmmmmm good question 😊

@housbinpharteen7445 10 ай бұрын

i am not to worried about the center channel as its below my screen already. And i would have to say most don't have a center channel behind the screen , not everyone has a built in wall like youthman .. and lets face it even below the screen i am pretty fine with the sound there , it still sounds like its coming from the center..

@budala1969 10 ай бұрын

Agreed. The whole AT screen benefit is massively exaggerated. I'd rather have a far superior picture quality, then slightly better speaker placement. PJs have been a dyeing niche market for years. The only thing that's kept them relevant is screen size. Once this tech is affordable, it will be the final nail in their coffin. The AT screen reason sounded like copium to me.

@Youthman 10 ай бұрын

Placing my LCR behind an AT screen was one of the best changes I’ve made over the years. Definitely not an exaggerated benefit. Do you see any local cinemas that do not use AT screens?

@budala1969 10 ай бұрын

@@Youthman Commercial cinemas use much larger screens than home theatres, hence the difference in speaker placement behind screen vs edge of screen is measured in 10s of feet, and thus more noticeable. In overwhelming majority of home theatres the screen is not large enough to discern a significant difference.

@peat381low8 6 ай бұрын

Even a 100' tv would make for a great small home theater. Considering most shows and movies are mastered on dolby vision monitors today.

@Gamez4eveR 8 ай бұрын

If they can make acoustically transparent microled and make emmissive light as pleasant as reflected, sure! PS. Oh and also get rid of those Tesla gaps between panels

@steven7488 10 ай бұрын

How about Apple Vision Pro? It's much cheaper than any microLED TVs or high-end projectors. You can also watch VR videos too.

@Youthman 10 ай бұрын

My biggest issue with Apple Vision Pro is it’s meant for a solo experience. I’m not a fan of things that separate us. We experienced enough of that during the pandemic.

@MatthewHarden 10 ай бұрын

The problem with solid displays is always going to be the fact that they aren’t acoustically transparent! That’s something I debated for a long time, going with an 85 or 98” tv; but in the end, having to place the center below just won’t give you that theater experience!

@TomCamies 10 ай бұрын

Don’t Sony have a TV that has a center channel speaker that is actually substantial inside the screen? I remember hearing good things about it.

@506363 10 ай бұрын

OLEDs continue to get bigger, cheaper and brighter. Their image quality is unmatched. I wouldn't doubt if it becomes the new standard in 5-10 years. The only hesitation I have is the sound stage not being able to pass thru the back of the TV. but know knows, they make transparent OLEDs maybe they will make acoustically transparent OLEDs

@housbinpharteen7445 10 ай бұрын

actually if it takes 6 micro tv's to make say 150" , if one or two of the screens start to discolor and it will show the difference from where they are joined and you have to spend again on a new panel then the others go while you just got newer panels earlier ... its just a never ending panel buying ... the idea is good but in the long run not to shure if its gonna be cost effective

@Art-is-craft 2 ай бұрын

It takes a lot more than that. I think.

@anirbansarkar9152 9 ай бұрын

Yash bhai i was 75 kg at 5feet 6 inch with 24-26 % body fat then i joined gym and within 3 month i lost 5 kg slowly . Then i started body recomposition and now after 6 months of gym i am like 72 73 kg with much lesser body fat so how much do you think i will go in next few year ( i actually want to be like 85 kg weight with 18% body fat)

@rainman3269 10 ай бұрын

When the price becomes more affordable ... Absolutely

@BM-tk1cn 9 ай бұрын

Just cant see this overtaking projectors due to cost. I can get 146" screen from a pro for under 5k usd. I believe what you saw there was 250k usd

@marvinabugov4579 10 ай бұрын

Obviously not quite ready for home installation use . . . but “big business” does not care - their use case easily covers the costs of all the drawbacks. However, given the severe competition between Sony, LG, Samsung etc., we can assume these challenges will be updated and efficiencies will be found . . . . The home based market awaits and it’s too big to ignore. So, I expect a few more years rather than 5 or 10, maybe? The problem is - do you invest in a new projector / screen NOW (like me, for example) or … just wait and make what you have go as long as possible? Meanwhile, I just passed through the Toronto International airport yesterday and in a parents and kids waiting lounge was a HUGE MINI- LED tv at approx. 150 inches in a dimly lit room totally open to the main foyer - and it was really . . . awesome! I mean - WOW! Tons of lumen output, bright colours, excellent contrast etc. Maybe not as good as micro, but not bad either. Quite the eye-opener!!

@whiteandnerdytuba 10 ай бұрын

Just want a tv to replace my 120” ust. Either way the center won’t be in the ideal position

@gm95265 10 ай бұрын

I think Rollable OLED's are the future.

@JustinZ83 10 ай бұрын

MicroLED should replace projectors in movie theaters

@kougamecs3876 10 ай бұрын

Ever heard of Samsung Onyx?

@JustinZ83 10 ай бұрын

@@kougamecs3876 yeah buts they are only in a few theaters across the world I think. Not any where I live, but that’s what I meant. That would be the only theatre I’d go to if I had one locally

@kougamecs3876 10 ай бұрын

@@JustinZ83 but you know what's funny, a company called JBD wants to create microled projectors using microled on silicon. 1 million nits, so obviously you wouldn't want that shooting the sun in your eyes 🤣

@ericdn3825 10 ай бұрын

microloed will become a hot sale when the price of a 200inch ledpanel can be about the same as those jvc sony laser projectors

@Youthman 10 ай бұрын

Price is only one challenge

@raymondnist8770 10 ай бұрын

Not unless they can make them acoustically transparent- beautiful TV but requires sacrifices with the center channel speaker

@mrpoopoo888 9 ай бұрын

Cannot see this product taking off. For the vast majority of consumers, this will never replace a TV, especially when TV sizes are getting bigger and bigger. Most people don't want to go through the trouble DIY a screen to fit their living space anyway. The other downsides you mentioned, besides the price, are all dealbreakers - especially the weight and heat dissipation issues. I suspect in a few years this product will be as relevant as 3D or curved TVs are today.

@MTYoungPercussion 10 ай бұрын

Center channel placement is always a compromise unfortunately. If you aren't fortunate enough to be able to hide a LCR behind a projector screen, you're almost always putting your TV too high or center channel too low. Not to mention the center is the most important so you really want a beefy speaker there. So far I've used doorstops to tilt my center channel up and it certainly helps a good deal.

@shaolin95 10 ай бұрын

Yes but that is the key of finding a great center with fantastic projection and dispersion like a Revel C208

@ambertjohannes1797 10 ай бұрын

The biggest reason it wouldn't replace it is because you can't place the centre and front surrounds behind the screen. You just can't do that. Sound placement won't be accurate.

@clw22580 10 ай бұрын

Free shipping though on that 146” 😂

@Youthman 10 ай бұрын

Yes sir! It’s the least they can do right? 🤣

@jamesbibby1208 10 ай бұрын

it won't have to go in the land fill I'll take em I'll take em all

@justincrossley1913 10 ай бұрын

I know people who bought a lcd led tv because they didn’t want to spend more money on a oled tv and I know people who would buy even a used tv I would even myself like 1 those pioneer kuro elite or a Panasonic why because there built for quality today tv are just not and micro led that is years away what I would like to see is a wider aspect ratios on tvs

@bang2loud1981 10 ай бұрын

Sadly no dolby vision on that 146"😔

@christopherterheyden9583 10 ай бұрын

I can't use it if it's not acoustic transparent, ;)

@KimmoJaskari 10 ай бұрын

Ultimately, it's a TV. At this time, with costs up to $200 grand, they're basically immaterial for almost all home theater enthusiasts, but even if they come down in price they won't be able to match the price/size performance of a projector. You can get an extremely satisfying image for far below $10 grand. For me, aside from massive price, it's just the sheer impracticality of huge TV's that stand out. Just getting a 100 inch TV into the room is a chore, getting it mounted is a chore, and if it breaks and you have to ship it back it's a nightmare. Picture-quality wise, TV's will probably retain their edge on contrast, but... contrast at a smaller size vs perfectly decent contrast at a huge size, well, for HT huge size wins. Giant video walls are a very cool technology and I can see use cases that are great, but home theater is a pretty marginal one for now.

@budala1969 10 ай бұрын

When LG first revealed their OLED tech, a 65" cost $10,000. Less than a decade later, you can get a far superior 65" LG OLED for ~$1000 on sale. Micro LED prices will eventually come down to "affordable" levels (i.e. JVC NZ line).

@celioguim 10 ай бұрын

Unless I win the lottery to spend $219,999.00 on a display, I will never be able to afford this technology. I don't plan to sell one of my houses to afford a TV display. Great video sir.

@budala1969 10 ай бұрын

Less than a decade ago 65" OLED was $10k. Now a far superior 65" OLED can be had for ~$1000.

@zenmorris182 10 ай бұрын

Rollable oled is the future

@RobMedich 3 ай бұрын

Of course big micro-LED screens will be a viable home theater option . . . someday. Yes, it's years and years off. But, as we know, these screens are modular pieces assembled together (and done so well enough that you can't see the seams). Getting the pieces into a home theater space isn't a problem. And neither is the center channel issue. Add one speaker above the screen and another below. Your ears won't know the difference. It might still be more expensive than a projector setup and will likely require professional installation. But those who can afford it will be very happy.

@Youthman 3 ай бұрын

I really would like to hear a dual center channel to see if my brain can merge those two together cohesively. We may have a large microLED setup at MWAVE 2024.

@CaseTheCorvetteMan 10 ай бұрын

Being Samsung i'd be concerned about the reliability, they never were known for going the distance.

@googoo-gjoob 10 ай бұрын

though TVs may be more.... _perfect,_ i think they lose the *warmth* a projector provides

@bingdong8571 10 ай бұрын

I hope so because unless you buy an automobile priced jvc projector all the youtube reviewers say you have a piece of junk.

@ToterArzt 10 ай бұрын

But how do you get this inside your flat?

@HT-Denmark 10 ай бұрын

You dont. You build your house around it 😁

@Jacob-ed1bl 10 ай бұрын

It comes in smaller panels that are assembled to create a much larger screen.

@robzilla69 10 ай бұрын

Unless i can push a button and make it dissappear like my ALR screen, never gonna happen for me.

@soundandvision 10 ай бұрын

Not anytime soon.

@zztop7000 10 ай бұрын

Microled will NEVER replace hometheater projector is NOT the same as local cinema feel to it! Hometheater projector is got that feel your local cinema have nostalgia! Just like turntables revival people LOVE nostalgia! It means that projector is for cinema while turntable is for music.

@steverosales2616 10 ай бұрын

Yes....Yes, they will. You'll get over it 😅

@MW-ii5nb 10 ай бұрын

There is a much much bigger problem. In all dark scenes you can clearly see the rectangle sections the micro led is made up of.

@Youthman 10 ай бұрын

Keep in mind it’s much more obvious on camera than it is in real life due to shutter speed. I could not see the panels when standing more than 5 feet away.

@MW-ii5nb 10 ай бұрын

I saw it in real life. I've seen it twice now. I'll take a video in the next few days.

@Youthman 10 ай бұрын

You can see the panels with your eyes when standing more than 5’ from it?

@eldukeo 10 ай бұрын

Ill be dead before this is affordable! That tv is worth more than my house lol

@FullThrottle2 10 ай бұрын

This time I have to disagree. See how much 98 inch TLC costs. 5 years ago, only a few could afford such a screen. Ecology? You are surrounded by a dozen speakers, 4 subwoofers 18 inches that consume huge amounts of energy, you have two rows of leather seats😀 Center speaker? people build an atmos with reflection from the ceiling. The center speaker so low must probably have a proper design.

@dickriggles942 10 ай бұрын

Plus he's probably one of those people that demands everyone buy electric cars too, LOL.

@Youthman 10 ай бұрын

No demands here. Just an observation. My speakers will last for decades. You won’t get that with any TV

@FullThrottle2 10 ай бұрын

@@Youthman Check out the tcl ultraslim 98 inch 8k. Modern screens can be slightly thicker than a sheet of paper. The lamp life of a traditional projector is 5,000 hours. in laser 20,000 and in TV 100,000. I already have the third lamp in my Epson, I really doubt that it will reach 100,000. hours and 20 lamps. A TV with such parameters is the end of the game when it comes to the image later it can only be virtual reality.

@shinvergil 10 ай бұрын

I prefer projection. Easier on my eyes.

@commanderrussels2612 10 ай бұрын

Surprised more people didn't point this out. I find the extreme brightness of todays TVs to be a bit uncomfortable... and that's on a 75" tv, but on a 130" tv that's eye melting. I also find the sharpness and contrast of TVs to be artificial looking.

@Youthman 10 ай бұрын

You are correct. Emoted light is a very different experience than a reflected light.

@100toeface 8 ай бұрын

@@commanderrussels2612 There is an automatic brightness setting on my 85" Samsung The Frame TV. It changes it from 'glaring eye searing beast' to be quite comfortable, almost like looking at a poster on the wall. The display is matte (I think), which also helps.

@dtracy03ss 10 ай бұрын

A big chunk of Junk headed for landfills soon are called EVs , Lots mor Junk than TVs!!! Price is still the worst Negative for now but when they Drop to 5k in price and they will I would have one!! Audiophile 2.1 or 4.1 would be Plenty of Sound for most living area Home Theater IMO?

@Youthman 10 ай бұрын

You do have a good point there.

@TriMuXx 10 ай бұрын

I know this is supposed to be only about Home Theater and really, the Niche customer is going to want this for their Home Theater but like he said in the video, too many major setup issues to make this a deal maker and skip the projector purchase for the Home Theater. Regardless, I feel that with Ultra Short Throw projector prices getting lower, the average consumer will start considering projection over a flat panel TV. With TVs getting more and more glarey. Projectors getting deeper and deeper blacks. Projectors supporting HDR better as technology improves. The average consumer would struggle fitting a 98"+ Flat Panel TV through the front door and into a truck without panicking about if it gets a scratch during the move or someone drops the heavy tv while carefully getting it into the new house without having to pay for a crew of movers to do it for them. I mean a college kid can get an Ultra Short Throw projector into their Dorm without issue, much less a small apartment. Once we get ALR screens to drop in price significantly with the cost of Ultra Short Throw projectors already going down, there is going to be a shift. No need to run wires up the wall, no need to put wires inside of the wall, no need to necessarily put holes in the wall to hang up a screen either. Projection has overcome so many "hurdles" for the average consumer already with much lower input lag, bright and accurate colors, etc, etc. Soon bedroom TVs will go away in favor of Ultra Short Throw projection. It's just a matter of time. There will always be a niche market of Flat Panel TV fans, and that's fine, but the standard may very well become projection for the average consumer after all.

@budala1969 10 ай бұрын

This tech is still in its infancy. By the time it's affordable and ready for mainstream, most of the tech issues will be worked out as well.

@TriMuXx 10 ай бұрын

@@budala1969 so the extremely heavy weight will be resolved? I guess it will be able to be rolled up and super easy to move? That’s a relief. I was worried I would have to get 5 gym friends to help me lift the thing and put it on the truck when I move.

@budala1969 10 ай бұрын

@@TriMuXx Did you forget how large and heavy first CRTs were?

@TriMuXx 10 ай бұрын

@@budala1969 but they still fit easily through the door. You didn’t need a team to carry it and yell “Don’t hit the top of the tv with the door frame!” or “Don’t scratch the screen!”

@squared80 10 ай бұрын

Samsung is going all-in on QD-OLED technology.

@buddy305luv9 10 ай бұрын

Samsung needs to stop playing around and figure out how to get MLED down to sensible sizes and prices before QDOLED gets it together. We all know the cost matters the most, and MLED prices are TGH.

@joelowens5211 9 ай бұрын

Even if someone can buy a 200k TV most millionaires will not want to because they understand technology is ever changing and can get outdated fast. Music equipment high end tends to hold value better and you can make upgrades over time to some pieces giving you decades of longevity. TV's basically become worthless over time as technology evolved to replace them with latest versions. I can get a whole movie theater set up with an awesome high end projector and audio with design for about 60,000. It would just be used for home theater room as I already have other tv's for day watching and dedicated music room for listening to singers etc. Maybe in 5 years to 7 years the tech comes way down in price and more mass adoption. The people that spend up to have this when first comes out are mainly bragging rights to their friends and buddies to wow them.

@peppersmith 10 ай бұрын

Nice, but $250k Nope. Not even in 10 yrs this will still not be affordable. Because something else will be out - lol... Keep the Projector!!

@TomCamies 10 ай бұрын

You might expect to have hdmi 2.1 for $250,000 😂

@tlhuffman 10 ай бұрын

A 146" $100,000 + display is not practical. How about a 98" display for $6K? That's available now.

@jameswynn709 2 ай бұрын

Two Center channels one above one below

@Youthman 2 ай бұрын

My questions are what do you do about comb filtering and will it create a convincing enough imaging that your brain thinks the sound is coming from behind the screen instead of from above and below.

@jameswynn709 2 ай бұрын

@@Youthman Sony is doing two Center channels you should do a video on that you can either have one above and one below or use the televisions speaker

@Youthman 2 ай бұрын

I know that have the technology, I just have no way of mounting a center above my screen to test it. TV speakers is a horrible option.

@jameswynn709 2 ай бұрын

@@Youthman I agree with the TV thing and if you got a very big Center Channel I got small ones that have brackets on the back but if you run into anybody that has a setup like that it would be nice to see and get your opinion when you listen to it