Will This Rolex Submariner Lose Money Long-Term? (Two-Tone Prediction) Watch Dealer Q&A July 2023

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Watchtrader & Co

Watchtrader & Co

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0:00 Trailer
0:40 Intro
1:06 What are the best vintage watches for under £5k, £5k-£20k & over £20k?
4:16 Will there ever be a Datejust in the 38mm 39mm size?
5:34 What accounts for the price difference between the US and the EU?
6:29 How do brands such as Omega, Longines and Jaeger LeCoultre justify their price increase?
7:47 What is your prediction for the first new reference Oysterflex Daytona to hit the market?
8:21 Who amongst the team has the most watch knowledge?
8:55 The best Rolex for £10,000?
9:27 What are your thoughts on authorised dealers selling pre-owned watches for more than retail price?
10:29 What would you recommend as a long term investment?
12:00 What are your price predictions for the Rolex Chocolate Sky-Dweller on Oysterflex?
12:41 Will my Rolex Bluesy hold it’s value long term?
13:21 Choose one Audemars Piguet, one Patek Philippe and one Rolex.
16:01 Which is a better choice the Rolex Submariner Starbucks or the black bezel Submariner Date?
16:51 Are there any risks to selling watches on consignment?
18:10 Do you offer online appraisals on second hand watches bought from other stores?
18:52 What watches are you typically able to sell the fastest? Are you willing to offer more, if you know
that it is watch that sells quickly?
19:05 Do you ever buy a watch to hold on to?
20:05 Are most precious metal watches currently selling for under list price on the secondary market?
20:15 Should Rolex hold off on two prices within a single year?
21:04 How well is the 128238 Rolex Day-Date performing in the secondary market?
21:47 What sparked your interest in watches and is it a lucrative business?
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Watchtrader & Co are an established family owned business with a boutique store based in Newcastle upon Tyne and a client base UK wide. They also have partner stores in London so you can buy, sell or upgrade your watch in a location that is convenient for you. With years of experience in the trade, they stock an impressive range of the hottest timepieces from leading luxury brands such as Audemars Piguet, Rolex, Patek Philippe, Richard Mille, Cartier, Tudor and more.

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@realrockrolla
@realrockrolla Жыл бұрын
The new Bluesy in the best Rolex ever made
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Best Rolex ever made is a major topic for debate
@SteelmoonWatches
@SteelmoonWatches 2 ай бұрын
Too big
@andrewgill1749
@andrewgill1749 Жыл бұрын
Another great video lads, another example of why you are the best watch channel on KZfaq! Nice to see that you’re not just talking about Rolex, even though it’s the brand I like the most 👍
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! Thanks for watching as always 🙏
@ralphferrara5152
@ralphferrara5152 7 ай бұрын
How long did you have to wait for your Rolex Bluesy and did you pay the retail price or way over price? I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks
@Nosecone
@Nosecone 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic of you guys to do this Q&A….really fascinating and I’m also thrilled to see my question get a mention! Excellent episode….more like this too please!! 👏🏾👏🏾
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for getting involved and asking a question - glad you enjoyed it!
@casa2109
@casa2109 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Another great, fun, informative episode! Thank you!
@JohnUSA7
@JohnUSA7 8 ай бұрын
Just a month ago I bought my brand new Rolex Bluesy from my great authorized Rolex dealer. Before I bought my Bluesy I check the whole watch market and contacted many dealers to see for how much I will be able to buy my new Bluesy. The current retail price for a new Bluesy in the US is $15,600.00. You will not be able to get any discounts on Bluesy. If you did and were lucky please share your experience here. This model sells for a higher price than retail on the used watch market. So if you want this watch and want to pay only retail you got to be patient and just wait. My research proves that this Rolex Bluesy will appreciate in value. Good luck and hope your dreams may come true soon for you as well.
@MrHav1k
@MrHav1k 5 ай бұрын
Right on!! Love the Bluesy!
@Ferreiraplumbing20
@Ferreiraplumbing20 3 ай бұрын
100% agree if you bought this for 15,600 you walked out of the boutique with 3-5k equity
@f1watcher445
@f1watcher445 Жыл бұрын
Love these videos....very informative!! Keep them coming : )
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback - more to come!
@user-lc6qk1qr6u
@user-lc6qk1qr6u Жыл бұрын
Love the relaxed atmosphere great to see different models that get skipped over on other vids top lads👍👍
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback. Have a good weekend
@motokult
@motokult Жыл бұрын
A lot of watches, I was wearing ! These are my favorite ones; Yellow Golf DD champagne stick dial 40mm 228238, Daytona Panda 116500
@danielbarnard8069
@danielbarnard8069 Жыл бұрын
Hendo. I do not handle as many watches as you. So that could be part of it. But as an owner of both a datejust (2013/14) and a seamaster. Diver chrono c. 2012. The latter is like a farm vehicle. The movement is noisy, it’s really heavy (even when comparing to my Daytona / equivalent chrono) and having gone swimming with it multiple times - the back of the bezel makes my wrist smell metallic when it gets wet. But the biggest difference I’ve found in 20 yrs of ownership is the after sales service. Omega boutique at Bluewater in Kent - have damaged my constellation (and sent it back with parts from another watch after being asked to replace a battery and taking 2months at service centre) and the clincher - refused to replace the (I claim defective) dial on my seamaster during warranty period. Despite photos and proof the case had never been opened. Rolex - for all the contempt shown by some ADs - have always done exactly what they said they would do. Slowly - but without screwing it up. All that said - I love my seamaster. But cannot bring myself to give Omega more money. Or a recommendation.
@MarcoS-im7ke
@MarcoS-im7ke Жыл бұрын
Great video guys! One of the best watch channels nowadays 🏆
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in 👊
@MarcoS-im7ke
@MarcoS-im7ke Жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work boys and please do not add luxury cars, politic… Some fashion advices from Hendo are welcome😅 😉
@johnpeters4268
@johnpeters4268 Жыл бұрын
Great content as always!
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
We appreciate the feedback 🙏
@Ethan.rid1
@Ethan.rid1 Жыл бұрын
Me and my dad watch all your videos. We went to Jesmond dene and saw Stuart in the shop window when we drove past. I like personally Daytona ghost which I will aim to get when I’m older.
@zr7083
@zr7083 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic show guys .. especially to see a new one mid-week .. 😊👍
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting us know
@draganbalzic4493
@draganbalzic4493 Жыл бұрын
Rolex price increases over the last 30 years have outpaced inflation by 50%. In other words, a watch that sold for $3000 in 1993 should sell for $6338 today based on inflation but that same watch is now selling for $9000-$10000. The Explorer II is the perfect example of this reality as it’s not using ceramic parts and it’s nearly identical to the product produced in 1993
@benlee8697
@benlee8697 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed that Q&A session thank you gents. Thanks for reading out my question. I ended up changing to Starbucks mk1 bezel, hopefully the right call. The question now is whether to add a bluesy or to PX Starbucks for a panda..
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Thanks for getting involved Ben and congrats on your Starbucks purchase. Give it some time and see if your feeling about the watch changes, then decide
@tromboostofficial
@tromboostofficial 11 ай бұрын
Bluesy is the best sub ever!!! Shiny and still an everyday watch. For me the the best value🔥🔥🔥 Prices will go crazy in years.
@chrisagnew1988
@chrisagnew1988 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that boys 👌
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting us know
@KC14109
@KC14109 Жыл бұрын
Another great video guys. Harry has come on leaps and bounds with his watch knowledge over the last year.
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Glad to have you as a viewer to see the progression. Thanks for sharing your thoughts in the comments as always 🙏
@rolandvaneijk
@rolandvaneijk Жыл бұрын
Gave the video a thumbs up, now sit back and going to watch it. Cheers.
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in
@paolog.spinato7869
@paolog.spinato7869 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the answer guys! Cheers from Italy
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Our pleasure, thanks for getting involved with the Q&A
@rputeraanwar
@rputeraanwar Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making my evening!
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@robfryer9962
@robfryer9962 Жыл бұрын
Great content 👍🏻
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@BrotherHoodofTheDogxix
@BrotherHoodofTheDogxix 11 ай бұрын
Very professional.
@paulscaife2247
@paulscaife2247 11 ай бұрын
What's the difference in resale value of the same rolex watches like subs, date just, op etc in left hand vs right handed watches. I'm left handed but thinking about buying a normal left watch and wear it on my right hand.?? Tia
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader 11 ай бұрын
Nearly every current Rolex watch has the crown on the right hand side. It’s only the GMT-Master II VTNR that has the crown on the left
@david.9633
@david.9633 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the episode
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@jamesthomas4710
@jamesthomas4710 Жыл бұрын
I just sold my rolex sub blue gold recently for a healthy profit, though it was on the advice as nows the time as markets on the whole are starting to "settle" as my watch dealer friend put it.
@shindilal3311
@shindilal3311 Жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable, well done
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Glad to read that. Have a good weekend
@Aliassuk
@Aliassuk 11 ай бұрын
Can you please add the 2021 new Explorer II white dial in one of the future videos similar to this one? Do we think it’s a good investment? Thanks
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. Feel free to ask the question on our next Q&A post!
@BAF605
@BAF605 Жыл бұрын
Good one. Thanks Guys!!
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@vintagecrazyjay4970
@vintagecrazyjay4970 Жыл бұрын
Shout out from Oklahoma City, Oklahoma! Great channel! Cheers!
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in from across the pond!
@relosapulso
@relosapulso Жыл бұрын
i hope there's a topic about tudors not only to rolex, awesome reviews and insights about these keep it up
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Feel free to ask the question for the next one and we’ll talk about it 👊
@relosapulso
@relosapulso Жыл бұрын
@@Watchtrader will do :) thanks
@greggeorgiou52
@greggeorgiou52 Жыл бұрын
Great episode 😊
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Greg
@michaeljacksonsloafers
@michaeljacksonsloafers Жыл бұрын
If you showed me a picture of Jack and asked what I thought he did for a living my guess would be Painter and Decorator. If you showed me a picture of Hendo and asked what I thought he did for a living my guess would be Nightclub Owner. If you showed me a picture of Josh and asked what I thought he did for a living my guess would be Estate Agent. If you showed me a picture of Jon and asked what I thought he did for a living my guess would be Asda Delivery Driver. True story.
@ronaldJ262
@ronaldJ262 Жыл бұрын
How about Harry ?
@michaeljacksonsloafers
@michaeljacksonsloafers Жыл бұрын
@@ronaldJ262If you showed me a picture of Harry and asked what I thought he did for a living my guess would be works in I.T.
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
😂 Thanks for that
@tromboostofficial
@tromboostofficial 11 ай бұрын
The AP Offshore with the smoked dial I agree! I got it and I am so so happy about it🔥✨
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader 11 ай бұрын
Congrats man, great timepiece
@tromboostofficial
@tromboostofficial 11 ай бұрын
@@Watchtrader thank you very much guys!! Great video as well! Love it. Keep it up.
@hsbnsse
@hsbnsse Жыл бұрын
I may buy a black sub or a black gmt , even a rose gold yacht , are which is the best to hold the price? Love the vids
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Buy the one you like. The Sub or GMT are more popular models so will likely have more people looking to buy them in the future
@jeeves951
@jeeves951 Жыл бұрын
Another great episode
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it 🙏
@ianmanfren1003
@ianmanfren1003 Жыл бұрын
Loving the mid week crack lads!
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Pleased to hear it Ian!
@pruteanu6
@pruteanu6 Жыл бұрын
Keep going with Q&A !!!
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback
@wh0l
@wh0l Жыл бұрын
Guys can we get Hendo to do some more outfit/car pairings with watches? Loved that feature last time out
@davelee9791
@davelee9791 11 ай бұрын
Daytona 16518 4 years ago £12k bought as many as I could find today £20k+… everyone was telling me I’m mad buying at those prices..
@itsallrobbish
@itsallrobbish 9 ай бұрын
Wow, I was offered a genuine Moonwatch for £2k 4 years ago! My DW5200 G-Shock (October 1984)is vintage, then?
@vinster666
@vinster666 Жыл бұрын
5711 white dial is the business. Stunning watch
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Will we see the while dial return in the future on a 5811…?
@CallumRoberts17
@CallumRoberts17 Жыл бұрын
What’s peoples thoughts on a 2009 GMT master ii bi-metal? Black face, stainless steel with yellow gold. Do these watches perform well when selling on?
@ameza357
@ameza357 Жыл бұрын
I bought one in 2016 for $7200 US. Sold it back to the dealer I got it from in 2020 for 10,5. Currently it trades between 13, 5 and 18 US depending on condition
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
If you compare it to the bi-metal Rootbeer, they do not command the same market price. However, if you compare the RRP in 2009 with the current market price, you’ll be doing alright 👌
@CallumRoberts17
@CallumRoberts17 Жыл бұрын
@@Watchtrader thanks for your reply. I’ve been offered the watch for £10,500 Box & papers, recent rolex service. Excellent condition. I think the similar watches I’m seeing in the market are around 12k ish
@CallumRoberts17
@CallumRoberts17 Жыл бұрын
@@ameza357 that’s good. I’m really tempted to get one. Thanks for your reply.
@FLFC77
@FLFC77 Жыл бұрын
I’d defo going with Lee Westwood… sponsored by AP..!!!
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
🏌️‍♂️⛳️
@phantpwr
@phantpwr 11 ай бұрын
I tried to get a bluesy at the AD. Was a no go. Oh well.
@DickFear-uy5ez
@DickFear-uy5ez Жыл бұрын
Great video boys. I've just picked up a too tone bluesy at my Dubai AD. Love it. As you said to keep it and i totally agree. Can enjoy and not lose. See you all soon. Dubai Dick 👍
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the new timepiece - enjoy it. Thanks for tuning in as always
@RichMitch
@RichMitch Жыл бұрын
My question first up! 💪🏻
@RichMitch
@RichMitch Жыл бұрын
Excellent answers! Thank you gents!
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Thanks for getting involved 🙏
@sladewilson6811
@sladewilson6811 10 ай бұрын
The guy w laptop Wc he wearing Fluted or smooth ? Date ?
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader 10 ай бұрын
Datejust 41 Fluted, Jubilee, Wimbledon Dial
@jordanc9169
@jordanc9169 Жыл бұрын
But the Datejusg 41 already measures under 40 sooo idk
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Maybe a 39mm would measure under 39mm too…
@rebeccawarren2976
@rebeccawarren2976 Жыл бұрын
Watchfinder offers loans and financial plans. Guys are you thinking about it? For example I pay a deposit of £5000 for Explorer 36 and then you give me a loan with financial plan so I could pay the rest in lets say 12 months.
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
🤔 Food for thought
@BIG2hats
@BIG2hats 3 ай бұрын
I have come across tons of people, myself included, where the DJ doesn’t fit right in neither the 36 or 41. Personally, the 36 is far too small and the 41 looks like a dinner plate. The 41 OP looks even bigger for some reason. A 38/39mm would be just right for a lot of people.
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader 3 ай бұрын
The oyster perpetual whilst still 41, has a larger dial compared to the Datejust. That in addition to the lack of date contributes to the larger appearance. A 39mm DJ would be amazing
@Islandchris242
@Islandchris242 Жыл бұрын
Same, boring/lame questions. These “investment” folks need to move on to the next fad. “Which watch will I make money on” is getting very, very old
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Feel free to ask a question for the next one and hopefully we can talk about something you’ll enjoy. Have a good weekend
@Jasperroodog
@Jasperroodog Жыл бұрын
Hendo is a legend
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
🍻to that
@Jasperroodog
@Jasperroodog Жыл бұрын
the oldest legend at watchtrader !!!!!
@jonstuart4991
@jonstuart4991 Жыл бұрын
jack asks the difference between the newmarket to second hand market !?....you cant race a horse on the second hand market jack!
@FOX6819
@FOX6819 Жыл бұрын
Was it Lee Westwood ?
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
🤫
@WatchReporter
@WatchReporter Жыл бұрын
what language are they speaking?
@florianvoigtlander2046
@florianvoigtlander2046 11 ай бұрын
43mm white gold AP Offshore music edition Daydate platinum with arabic dial or GMT Master II white gold meteorite dial Patek Philippe 6002R Sky Moon Tourbillon
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader 11 ай бұрын
You’d like our opinions on them?
@florianvoigtlander2046
@florianvoigtlander2046 11 ай бұрын
@@Watchtrader i'd love to!
@florianvoigtlander2046
@florianvoigtlander2046 11 ай бұрын
But it was also a reference of which to chose if u can only take one from AP, Rolex and Patek, like u have done in your video.
@lexzoolia1
@lexzoolia1 Жыл бұрын
Oisin should pay Ratso
@DonAl9114
@DonAl9114 11 ай бұрын
People should buy a watch because of its looks and quality. To only buy as an investment is totally nonsense. During my life I bought many Swiss watches and I enjoyed them all. Some I kept and some I sold. Some lost lots of value and only a few increased in value. Why is it so important that a watch increases in value….? I don’t see the point.. 😊😊
@chrisdrake331
@chrisdrake331 Жыл бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻💪🏻😉
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Cheers Chris
@RolexDSSD
@RolexDSSD Жыл бұрын
Rolex Comex
@cd1934
@cd1934 11 ай бұрын
With Rolex watches!, the customer will always lose money!, the Dealers won’t tell you that !, but that’s the Fact of the game!.
@stevejukic8166
@stevejukic8166 Жыл бұрын
Why are people buying watches which can not afford. Watches are to be worn and not kept in a drawer at home.
@ameza357
@ameza357 Жыл бұрын
Sea dwellaaa!
@johnwhittle-mp2ti
@johnwhittle-mp2ti Жыл бұрын
Same old same old , rolex only for old men 🤣🤣
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
Is that true?
@AICH810
@AICH810 Жыл бұрын
The Secondary Gray Watch Market is Dead 💀
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader Жыл бұрын
When did that happen?
@Monkey-gt.official
@Monkey-gt.official Жыл бұрын
It’s happening. Before your eyes. Worried?
@Watchtrader
@Watchtrader 11 ай бұрын
😂
@maverick4177
@maverick4177 8 ай бұрын
If you are buying watches purely for trying to make money off people you are a vulture, same as trainer flippers etc
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