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I’ll never forget my first raid with a “semi hardcore” guild I applied and got accepted for. I was fully world buffed, all consumes, meticulously planned. It was AQ so I hit my gadgetzan teleport and behold, I drew the unlucky roll and was sitting high above Gadget about to fall to my death. I am freaking out but remembered I had noggenfogger knowing I would only get one chance for the slow fall, so I hit it and by some lucky chance I get it. I was so grateful because showing up to my first raid without buffs with that guild would have been very emberassing and might have gotten me kicked

I was on Whitemane when P2 dropped. Luckily, I had already hit level 60 and was almost done farming my pre-bis for MC. My guild, Acquired Taste, would meet up at Thelsamar and ride south into the Searing Gorge, then into BRM. We had so many epic battles in our way to MC. We would sometimes go alone or combine with other alliance guilds heading to raid in order to “break the siege” upon the mountain. Sometimes we were very successful taking little to no casualties, other times we would get battered, and a few times we got wiped. Usually, the latter was due to a pincer move by the Horde. At the time it was fun as first, then yeah it did start to get annoying when you wanted to test your dps limits (I was a Hunter), but looking back I think those memories were amongst the most epic I ever had during Classic.

I'll always remember running from SW mage tower with 3 undead rogues behind me, knowing in a few seconds I'd lose my buffs, the time and gold I spent getting them, and won't enjoy the whole raid night anymore. I'll probably also remember the joy I felt if we all wiped on the 1st boss anyway...

i remember being full world buffed and watching every corner just to get dispelled right at the entrance of molten core lol

Classic classic is by far the most fun ive ever had in a game. There was always so much to do and you remembered people alot more often. You knew who griefed, Where they griefed, Who sold buffs, which buffs they sold, Who were hardcore pvpers and who were parse gods. The game was fantastic.

Being an alliance rogue and having your hiding spot underneath Orgrimmar found out and playing games of hide in seek to get warchiefs blessing was def a special type of gameplay 😂. Then wearing some of your tier 1 on accident that has shadow resistance on it so you resist mind control 3 times in a row and miss the buff right before raid. Ohh boy 😂

I was in a medium population server back in original vanilla and I'll never forget the two rogues that would often pester us entering BRM on raid nights, but that was a minor nuisance compared to the sweaty, borderline grief-wars going on in Classic! I never enjoyed getting opened up on by a couple of stealthed rogues, but I felt like a real scout when I would catch them with a flare and mark them for death!

I hated world buffs themselves, but I loved the WPVP drama they created. Grobb was a beautiful sea of green red and white. Red and green as far as the eyes could see.

I look back at classic raiding, worldbuffing, mouse cat-chasing with enormous rose-tinted goggles, and I miss it deeply. However, despite of this, I do remember the headache of having to wake up, or rather stay up, until early in the morning to get Warchief's blessing and songflower, which interfered a lot with my school and daily life. But, god, do I miss hanging out with all the boys until the sun rose just to get that buff, getting little or no sleep at all before having to go to school. Classic Vanilla sure was an experience.

I loved these sort of stuff in classic, even though how frustrating losing world buffs was. Gathering at flight point and traveling as group. There definitely was griefing aspects - there were people who made themselves known by being pricks. One such case is a guild waiting logged out at Yojimbo isles. When alliance got their buff, they logged in en-masse and attacked while people were waiting/casting portals. Apparently they had been paid by alliance guild to do that. AQ40 and Naxx were much easier at times. People managed to get in... creative places with warlocks (inside AQ40 gate wall, under Naxx portal or on mushroom), behind instance portal of Dire Maul when getting world buffs. However, being PvP servers, they occasionally were killed and you had to, for example, travel from Aerie Peak, passing through mountains, circling around Caer Darrow lake and going to eastern plaguelands, where you'd turn left jump over the mountains and head to entrance. Sometimes safest way was like that. If I ever start again in classic vanilla, I'd still play on PvP. Just makes interactions in world more interesting, although there is issue of faction balance. It became more pronounced for us at end of vanilla/TBC, where we had to skip town because of our faction represented 5% of player population. Although, miss me with world buffs. I imagine it'd kill lot of this sort of PvP since there is no real risk or reward (outside of honor, but people didn't world pvp for honor after p2).

It is worth mentioning that there were also a summoning spot back in phase 3 for BWL. The glitch started at the right corner of the room with the portal to UBRS/LBRS, you can use a potion of growth (one with deviate fish) and instantly logout, and for some reason it pushed you to the roof of this room above the textures. There you could summon raiders with the worldbuffs, and they could run above the corridor of death and jump straight at the entrance to the Orb room. So you could compliment the run to the orb with an invisibility potion or some distraction, and that would give you nearly 95% survival chance. On the Earthshaker we had horde dominating the BWL entrance typically, so ally discovered the summoning spot and tried to have it concealed until AQ40. Horde tried to break through, but with no coordinated attempt it worked out pretty well. Also, a good note was people selling out a new-found summoning spots for a nice profit to other guilds.

Classic raiding for me was about chill social times with the friends. Yes it's braindead and mountains of trash. Yes it's all about grinding prep for the raid before the raid itself. Yes staying awake can be a challenge when on farm status. But being super powered up from a zillion consumes and raid buffs felt strong. The challenge was also more like a hardcore challenge, not dying not just during but before, just getting to raid safely on a PvP server could be challenging. I love all the immersive slow grind of classic, the dangers, the risk, the time consuming nature, the chill relaxed socialising, the weird strats and group comps, it's all part of the unique experience.

love these videos, crazy how this channel blew up, i love just questing slowly and watching class videos or videos like this, vanilla was so qwerky, and i think the world, good or bad would be in a much worse place, i am sad i stopped leveling at 22 on my rogue, but i'm on ERA servers atm and just enjoy watching these whilst questing

being basically an arena only player im surprised how much i enjoyed classic wow. It really was alot of fun being apart of a guild and everyone helping each other

We've reached the point where videos on how it was "back in the day" are about Classic Classic... which was 2 years ago.

I love hearing about these PvP stories, but I'd hate to live them.

We'd have a warlock jump up the side of the Naxx portal and summon our whole raid ontop of the portal in Eastern Plaguelands, if you fell off the top without directly landing inside the portal....you were ganked by 5 rogues and your hard earned world buffs were now gone....

I was playing on a server with an 20-80% opposite faction split. I had to spend the entire day of my raids preparing summoning spots, because every week our old spot would get compromised and turned into a death trap. "Creative" summoning locations like the mushroom and beneath Naxx does not work whatsoever when the opposite faction outnumbers you several times over, they have 40 people camping those spots too, you need to use worse and worse locations and swap between them every week in an attempt at surviving. Then summon as quickly as possible before the dozen priests spamming mind vision with the enemy detector addon in the zone locate you. At times it was fun and exciting, but a vast majority of time it was just suffering. My favorite naxx summoning spot was the bone spikes above the entrance to Naxxramas, if you logged on 10 summoning alts at once, summoned everyone in the raid in 2-3 minutes you would often get the raid inside Naxxramas before the enemy faction had a chance to send a group of people up there to stop you. The only risk was the last few yards of the spike before reaching the entrance, it would be within range of hunter abilities and as you jumped down you would be in range of dispels, also if you jumped wrong you would hit the ground and die. Every raid someone would mess up their invisibility potion, using it too late and getting shot by 5 hunters and dying instantly, getting dispelled, or jumping down wrong. But it was the best way we found.

Never forgot phase 2. But now that time has passed, rolling out as a raid on pvp servers with the risk of losing world buffs was peak WoW. Vanilla Classic is GOATed imo

We used to summon people on top of the AQ40 gates (behind the portal) and if you managed to jump correctly you would hit the portal and zone in. For Naxx we had summons on top of the spires/tentacles of the ziggurat and then jump down the hole to zone in. Risky, someone always died but it was good enough

You guys could always ditch world buffs and a) get more authentic more difficult raids and b) save yourself from a headache which is trying not to lose world buffs.

>raids were easy >you NEEDED world buffs to raid This doesn't really make sense lol

I miss vanilla big time. Classic leveling was fun because the world provided a challenge that would be overcome as a group. WPVP provided that same open-world challenge for me and kept the world exciting, even if that meant losing out on a parse week.

To enter BWL you could get a character on top of the walkway leading towards the orb. We've had multiple low level warlocks with hundreds of shards there to summon everyone safely and then simply jump down through the ceiling and click the orb. Clever use of game mechanics ;)

Guess some people simply enjoy being stressed out all the time...why else would you raid on a PvP server...

I absolutely HATED the World Buffs which mostly came from the whole Min Max thing EVEYRONE had to follow. Every time I had to collect the WB I would only get the minimum required by my guild. Warchief, Dragon and Songflower. I only got others if I had time to spare or it was safe to get them. The other part about it I hated was, that after you got them all, you had to log out of your main char. You had to safe the time on your WB so now you could either play on an alt or stop playing the game..... The Best part of TBC was the removal or not required to gather WB's for raids.

Vanilla classic will be the best classic ever. That’s why Era is becoming more popular and popular.

NGL, I enjoyed the whole thing far more than the raids themselves. I'm still mad that they added RBG's and Arenas earlier than planed. World PvP was so fun, raids on raids fights and special strategies.

I definitely loved the pre-raid rituals in classic. It's not sustainable because of how much of a time sink it ends up being, but I was not tired of it.. yet 😅

the first time I went to raid in MC I confidently tried to use the skip I recently learned by jumping down into the lava. I jumped down the wrong direction and died multiple times before reaching MC using every consumable I could to survive a bit longer. It definitely felt harder than MC itself, but mostly due to my own stupidity hahaha

Lmfao dude it wasn't that long ago, why is this video a thing

our guild usually had people setting their buffs up earlier in the day, then getting ported to right outside the raid entrance way earlier than raid time, then hanging out on alts until it was time to log over on their main for go-time

I have such complicated feelings about WBs - steps away from the entrance was absolutely the highest heart rate I've ever had while gaming

On Grobbulus we had full scale wpvp guild vs guild battles at the mountain. Good fun!

I liked the Phase 2 a lot. Was ganked through vanish by like 20 alliance in Felwood, was scary as hell. Ganked the BRD entrance as 4 rogues squad, ran around as Naxx geared warrior, done all of it. Wish I had tried the Shadow Priest and the Mage, alas. Yet I kinda enjoyed the clueless PvP and ganking during the first two years of Vanilla the most, was really the best years to enjoy the best online game ever made.

Even after classic wow 2019 We still talk about vanilla and how it still feels the best out of all of wow releases. Of course to each their own.

Classic was so easy that everyone HAD to get every single World Buff before the Raid started. Wait....

Playing on a pve server in vanilla classic never had the issue of getting raid alive.

back in the days in 2005 my Horde warlock did kill so many people in Black Roack Mountain. Once i got killed by a whole raid. They did show up one by one ;D Feared them in mobs in Burning Stepps. Good old times :D

With AQ, the very first hurdle was often just getting out of Cenarion Hold alive on my server back in the day! Such epic days!

Before mid BWL and onward where we used the "clever use of game mechanics" to find safe summoning spots, it was actually a multi guild effort getting into MC/BWL. Several alliance guilds on my server all organised at the flight point at Burning Steppes right after getting their Ony buff and left for the mountain at the same time. So it was usually 100+ alliance charging in at once, usually enough to counter the slight overpopulation of horde. Good times!

classic raiding definitely has a place in my heart. people were complaining about world buffs, but i knew that what makes it special. the effort and drama that comes with it.

One thing we did on Bigglesworth is have a our second raid group go first(they raided on a different night) ahead of us and wipe people out to help prevent us from getting jumped on our way in. For AQ40 we had a team of alt locks set up on top of the wall to the right of the portal, just above that pillar people would run out of, we'd use noggen foggers to get slow fall and mount right into the center of the portal outside of the dispel range for the most part(I used the gnomish invis device with noggen to be invis the entire time.

We always ran down the chain to get into MC, back since 2005. I still take that route to this day. I had no idea there were any other ways 😂

Remember taking 1h just to be able to get into brd during peak raiding time

I miss it like hell, and if classic is relaunched again, i would do it, just for the thrill of it.

It’s what makes classic so good even now

I still remember the stress of this era. But also the pure joy of wiping out people who were on their way to raids. So much fun

In my guild we had 3 warlocks who had to go the the raid as scouts and summon our raid to the portals or orb. Sometimes we lost our world buffs, but that was better than risking the entire raid.

Wow this is insane!! I played PVE vanilla classic from launch until early Naxxramas patch and never heard of this! I love how they had to farm mats and trinkets for the PVP encounter, that's brilliant! I bet you guys were on the opposite side at times? 😂

VANILLA! ITS NOT A GAME, ITS A LIFESTYLE BRING US CLASSSIC AGAIN!

Trying to get WCB as ally on a horde dominated pvp server were some of the most thrilling times I have had in all of WoW.

The only reason world buffs and the cat/ mouse summoning game were viable, because it was all happening peak covid when we were all home. Chronobooms obviously made it better. The OG way was fun at the time but, looking back, never again.

We'd send a scout outside of Black Rock Mountain and then group up and use goblin sapper charges to clear enemy raids if we needed to get in

I want classic classic back.

I remember having to corpse walk from thorium point to molten core as alliance on a VERY imbalanced server in horde’s favor. With rez timers, it could take around 45 minutes. I quit playing after two raid lockouts.

i miss classic. I hope they start introducing minor seasonal changes eventually. It would keep it fresh. Similar to the D2R patches. Small changes to a game that works.

This was peak classic

18 years and didn't know about that ZG entrance, until now (played Horde on Classic).

Phase 2 of classic wow was the most fun I ever had. The 40 v 40 battles in Tarren Mill were fantastic

This was my most hated, yet, favorite memory. The anxiety of getting into the dungeon and the creativity/planning involved made it awesome. Sure, I went through about 14 keyboards, but had an overall great time.

We organised a Horde hit squad in our guild, mostly mages to maximise destruction. Climbing up to the top of the doors leading into BRM from searing gorge where the alliance always came through, by jumping out the window near the BWL orb and following the balcony. A hunter use eagle eye to spot the ally raid's position. When they got into BRM, they were disorganised, this is when we striked, dropped down like paratroopers with slow fall and aoe spam. Usually killed 50-70% of the enemy raid (damn pally bubble healers) but the real damage was the most atrocious drama between guilds and server discord, our raid nights getting counter ganked by spies in our guild. Good times!

Lol this video is actually insane because wow that team effort was priceless alone. 🤯

Never forget the Great Blackrock War of Phase 2 Benediction

Hi Will! I hope there will always be popular Classic servers available if I ever get the itch for this kind of fun again, but I'm glad it's not in any other expansions.

When the attunement for BWL dropped it took me 27 deaths and 2 1/2 hours to get inside BRD from the FP in SG! That was a rough day!!

i remember having to clear UBRS to the bwl portal because of world buff reasons. we had the entire raid log out at like 3 am at the UBRS portal day before raid had a group clear ubrs up to the portal then ran everyone through it. lost everyone about 7 minutes of world buffs but was much safer than trying to lottery the orb

Its crazy its only been like 2 years since vanilla classic wrapped up. As silly as the process was, there was something so uniquely fun about the vanilla experience with world buffs and i hope blizzard brings back wbuff servers

Played on a PVE realm at the start of Classic so I wouldn't know about any of these problems. The only issue we had was Alliance players sitting on songflowers sometimes. Moved to a PVP realm in Wrath due to higher population, but it's 99% Horde so it's essentially a PVE realm lol.

my guild always had to go out and get world buffs together and go to the raid together then dispells started and then we had to evolve and be sneaky with the summons

As a dad of 15 kids working 3 jobs and nightschool... *Ahem*... I got tired of my inability to regularly play resulting in me feeling like I was always catching up and incapable of experiencing content when it was 'fresh' like the majority, so despite WotLK being my favourite expansion and having been eagerly awaiting it's re-release since before Classic launched, I gave it up. I've recently returned to Classic Era; Firemaw Alliance. I loved my time in Classic and never experienced P6 for the above reasons. As the game is now stagnant, I hope to be able to. I am loving it. The server is very alive. I agonised over PvE vs. PvP for the points raised at the end of this video, but having always played PvP servers and the Chronoboon thing now being in-game, I decided to stick with PvP.

This is literally all we talked about in classic

I leveled to 60 back in 2005 on a PVP server. Never again. As a mage, I was always a target while questing. I can't imagine doing that and trying to raid with world buffs.

We ended up turning into a no WB guild at AQ40. Was more satisfying defeating it that way and a lot less time consuming. The raid may have been 20 minutes longer but saved more time overall

Another plus for mage, between blink and ice block it’s not too bad to get in.

ah good times. This is the reason i got bored on my 90% ally server. Sure I got to parse 99s without consequence, but i ended up raid logging all week. Instead I made another dude on Whitemane, a pure 50/50 clusterfuck server. Every week it was so fun getting 40 people buffed and into raid. ESPECIALLY on darkmoon fair week.

I had a summoning lock for my raid. Loved helping everyone get to raid early and looking out for alliance trying to sneak in. So much fun I remember how much it got the blood pumping trying to protect your raid and get people there in 1 piece. Herod was a ton of fun. Man now I'm just thinking of all the things I kinda forgot about from Classic. It was my first time raiding/playing vanilla. My guild was great and guild master was the man. Was an incredible experience I got to share with my GF who was also raiding and playing. I was out of work because of the pandemic but still being paid to be unemployed so I just full time played wow. I've mained warrior in every wow expansion since original TBC so getting to play vanilla warrior was an endless source of fun.

My guild has a bunch of chads who would sit alt warlocks full of soul shards on the roof of the BWL orb. Would just call safe times throughout the day to summon all of our raiders. Never lost world buffs that way

i have a old wow account from wen the panda expantion came out can i still use that in classic wow or do i need to buy a new game ?

I remember the moment my guild required everyone to watch KZfaq videos for the Athas raid beginning. For me raiding was ruined in that moment. No more discovery. Now people can't even pick a class without watching tier videos.

I remember the dispel wars in kargath... dark times

There’s an easier way to jump into the uninstanced ZG by jumping up the right side of the entrance. Not necessarily faster for alliance but it’s faster for horde if needed.

The orb at bwl was a nightmare

If there's one thing WoW has lied to me about, it's that in the real world people aren't waiting outside Grocery Stores waiting to slap my recently acquired food out of my hands. It truly is wild how disturbing people get when they have a blanket of anonymity protecting them.

I got into classic late. It was already AQ time when I got myself to lvl 60 and into even some semi decent gear. Even still I think that summoning/gathering up and getting to the raid made it more personal. You were more invested in the guild as it were. I had several clickers on my two accounts that would help with summons etc. Personally I got really bummed out by the buffs limiting play, not so much them having to be safeguarded. For reference I played on ZT a RPPVP server and boy did we have it rough on the horde side. Still loved every moment of it and tbh I'm really hoping for a classic relaunch so I can see the early phases and also just play the game again... HC is nice and all but it's still different to be able to form a guild with fresh characters and such.

Absolutely loved it :) PvP in BRM was so much fun. Maybe a middle ground can be found, so that folks don’t burn out / move to PvE realms. For example, we could make losing your buffs a little more tolerable by rebalancing / nerfing them.

As a PvE small server Andy, i never got to enjoy any of this and i regret it so much. But i did get top 2% in Naxx on my warrior because i didnt have to worry about the cat and mouse

Classic was fun, but too many game mechanics made even simple tasks take forever. I like all the changes the latest expansions added.

the mice would never ask for there to be more cats !!! BUT the cats were always very loudly protest the opposite ! INSANE PIN POINTING !!!!

world buff trains on horde were super hype

No one ever once dispelled me hiding in the Stormwind Orphanage. xD

This was a really fun part of classic for me. I know it annoyed alot of people. My guild didn't use world buffs so we didn't have much to worry over besides time loss. Healing the homies as we fought our way to MC made p1 alot more interesting. It made p2 a weekly war!

Me and my friend played two pvp rogues (alliance) and we camped the entrance to dire maul every day,whole day We had an addon to screenshot when we kill someone with world buffs,by the arrival of the chrono boom we had around 800 screenshots of world buffs getting griefed by us Horde was so angry that they raided Stormwind to kill us,but we were offline that time,when we logged on,we got like 20 whispers and mails of people telling us to stop beacuse Horde were killing every alliance player they saw cause of us lol

Been raiding since MC40, BWL40, AQ40 and super lucky to be that %1 for Naxx40 back in the day... the stories i could tell you all 🤪🤪

I remember back on stalag when BWL dropped our guild couldn’t clear Firemaw for the life of us and he eventually broke up our guild

I've always had limited time to play any video game, so I hated PvP servers, but all my friends wanted to PvP, so I had no choice. Blizzard changing it so that PvP was an opt-in thing was a godsend for me since I didn't have to worry about wasting time doing something I didn't enjoy.

Back in ORIGINAL vanila we didnt realy do the world buffs thing. Usualy we had a person who had stacks of scrolls from Ah and we used those instead once we entered the raid. + the usual resistance potions The worst job however was collecting the water for molten core.

It's all we ever talk about when remembering the "good old days" of BRM

Wow Classic expirience was the best wow expitience ive ever had❤️