Back Button Focus AND Alternatives - Wildlife Photography

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There's a lot of controversy about how to use Back Button Autofocus and whether it's the best method for capturing bird in flight and wildlife images. Today I'm exploring Back Button Focus, as well as the Back Button Focus Alternative, AF-Stop, Dual Back Button Focus and explaining how to them for wildlife and bird photography.
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📖CHAPTERS00:00 Start
00:00 Auto Focus Modes
01:15 Manual Focus
02:26 One Shot / AF-S Pros and Cons
04:39 AI Servo / AF-C Pros and Cons
05:37 What IsBack Button Focus?
06:15 Using Back Button Focus
08:40 Disadvantages of Back Button Focus
09:43 Alternative Back Button Focus (AF Stop)
10:47 AF-Stop Disadvantages
11:49 Dual Back Button Focus
13:16 What's Your Method?
14:31 Setting Up Back Button Focus (Canon 5D Mark iii)
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@cleverclogsbecky Жыл бұрын

Great in-depth tutorial, I’m a beginner wildlife photographer, I have a canon 90D and Tamron 70-200mm G2. Since I discovered back button focus I’ll never go back.

@B1it3krieg 3 жыл бұрын

I was a fan of back button focus and missed a lot of pics due to the birds in flight. AF-Stop method is what I have switched to.

@Jonathantuba Жыл бұрын

I shoot wildlife using a Sony A1. I use AF-C all the time with focus on shutter button and limit my focusing points to AF tracking modes. I can then lock onto subject to focus and quickly recompose to shoot if desired while retaining focus on my subject. Then I have a back button that toggles from AF-C to manual focus (MF). I use that to stop my focus changing, or to fine tune manually if subject in bushes, etc. This method works for me and makes it a lot simpler than back button focus

@WillGoodlet Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the insights into your technique Jonathan, this thread is a really useful resource now for different approaches on different bodies. The more recent bodies, which allow for these configurations, obviously open up a world or opportunities. It sounds like you have a version of AF-stop (if that’s a name) going

@nigelwest3430 Жыл бұрын

I've recently switched to BBF and wouldn't go back, took a while to get used to it but it was worth the effort. I have it set on the "Smart controller" of my R3, so I can move the AF point and focus without trying to find another button.

@WillGoodlet Жыл бұрын

I haven’t tried it on the smart controller yet. A nice variation on BBF. I think that could work better for me too.

@paraagshah4153 4 ай бұрын

I don't have a full-frame or APS-C DSLR or mirrorless, rather a bridge camera, which essentially is a small-sensor mirrorless camera. I have set different combinations of the BBF, focus mode, exposure mode, focus area, shutter AF off, half-shutter capture, burst/drive modes to the 3 available Custom settings. Then, for the case scenario where one wants to hand the camera over to a fellow tourist, I can move the mode dial to the Simple Auto mode or even the P mode where the focusing is set to the shutter release button by default and it works like a normal point and shoot camera. So essentially works for every type of photographer.

@daemon1143 2 жыл бұрын

Been using back button for a fair while now and recently gone to dual back button with primary being servo and secondary being single shot. It works well, and is every bit as good for location portrait photography, where you might be shooting wide open and have a depth of field only a few centimetres thick and a small movement in the subject can break a shot, as it is for wildlife and domestic animals.

@garyhansel7018 3 жыл бұрын

Never heard of AF stop but I was aware of BBF. Never tried it out until after your video. What an amazing new tool! Thank you for your easy to understand explanation.

@hanskuehne5855 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Will, For some years now I am using the AF-Stop-Back-Button method you describe. And I am very happy with it for exactly the reasons you describe: Less strain in my right hand during a longer sighting. Your video is the first time I hear that somebody else uses this method :-) Best regard, Hand

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Hans, great to hear that - you are in the minority but there's nothing wrong with that. I am finding it an even more valuable technique with my mirrorless camera. Thanks for watching and leaving this comment - see you around :)

@ursthomann3463 3 жыл бұрын

I use what Dan Carr calls the „oh sh#@€§t dual back button focus“ on my 5DIV. AF-ON configured for single point servo AF, * set up one shot and now comes the „oh sh#@€§t part: the aperture preview button changes from single point to large field focus points.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Urs, interesting setup. I must check to see what else the Dof preview button can be used for on my bodies (older than yours). Cheers!

@ursthomann3463 3 жыл бұрын

@@WillGoodlet I find it useful for my rather amateur skill level. However, be aware that using the DoF preview button with the pinky together with the thumb is ergonomically not very comfortable, I am afraid. But it works for me and my size of hand (small to medium) most of the times.

@duncanmcinnes5819 3 жыл бұрын

Another good video. It is great to hear problems I was aware of and how to fix, but hadn’t heard of stop AF focus. Thanks for that.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Duncan. Yeah AF stop is quite a nice little technique.

@pommefemme 3 жыл бұрын

OK, I'm now going to return to back-button focusing (as I don't have the option of programming any of my camera buttons to 'stop focusing') after having gone back and forth with several cameras in frustration. Thank you so much for your many videos. They are not only very informative in meaningful ways, but also continue to inspire. The images you capture are sublime and the soundtracks such tasteful accompaniments to the video. I continue to hope for another trip of a lifetime to Africa, but the chances are getting slimmer every year. In the meantime I'll continue to enjoy the armchair travel you offer.

@issy-colin 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve never heard of AF Stop and I’ve just changed it :). I can’t get on with back button so this idea is really exciting!

@WillGoodlet 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Glad you found an alternative:)

@b.bimmer4688 2 жыл бұрын

Great and interesting video again Will - Thank you ! I’m not using back button focussing at this time but I Will certainly gave a try sometime.

@rickmueller6370 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Will for the great 13 tips video!! I’m convinced now to try the BBF. Appreciate your teaching style!

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure it will work out well, good luck Rick!

@subitkobiraj2402 3 жыл бұрын

I love back button focus. I will try double back button. I like the idea. I watched this video for the second time.

@jenstybring 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for another great video! I’m using dual back-button focusing for bird photography. To me that works well. I agree with you that Grant Atkinson’s YT channel is very useful. The two of you produce some of the most useful tutorials on KZfaq. In addition to the people over at Pangolin Safaris obviously. All the best from Norway.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jens great to hear we like the same channels :)

@lisasimpson9343 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you again, I'm new to this even though I've had a camera in my hand most of my life, never had the time to get serious. I had no idea about back button focussing, I have a 7D MKii which I love, so I have a new thing to try now. Thank you so much.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome!

@monteatalaia9655 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for another great tutorial 👍 I tend to use Grant's method most often. But use back button when focusing on a perch, eg for kingfishers.

@ricardocoelho4817 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the AF-stop button tip, I think I will really enjoy it! I belive to be way better than back button focus that I'm been using for some time.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it came in useful!

@neelsredphoto 4 жыл бұрын

A very clear and thorough explanation of back button AF. Thank you, Will! I currently use 'regular' BBF, but might have to try the dual setup

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Neels, yes the dual setup is pretty interesting :) Let me know how it works out for you!

@kenfixes2908 3 жыл бұрын

Been using the back button focus for years for bird photography, with amazing results. Like your channel! Keep sharing your tips and methods they are very helpful!!

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

@andrewwashington4946 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Will, I love the way you explain and have no booming music in the background . Impatient for the next video. I keep trying back button focus and sometimes I find it works well and sometimes I find I miss some shots. So at this time I'm not convinced but I am going to try AF stop method and see how I get on with that. Both on the R and the 7D mark 2.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Andrew! Just a few booming Hadeda's to contend with :) Let me know how you get on with AF-stop, I'd be interested to hear your experiences. Hopefully they will be good. I have heard some people say it is worth 'pumping' focus on the canons. So dabbing the button to reacquire. I find that the focus stickiness has a lot to do with things so it can be worth changing those settings per the conditions. I keep these on a custom menu

@fritsscholtenhzn6268 2 жыл бұрын

Hi , I do it simply. Work for BIF with my brand new Canon d7mk2 + Canon 100-400 mm mk2. My settings in Custom Controls are on the left row above 3 set BUTTON in AF. Now I can change from shutter Finger to my Thumb, it works quick. No more tired Thumb. For me ...... the best setting Cheers.

@kurtissutley1485 3 жыл бұрын

I've been doing back button focus too long to try to learn to stop focus. Can't imagine the nightmare to trying to remember. I do like the dual button technique because I can see what's happening in my viewfinder. In night photography I get focus using the LCD screen and zoom in to a reference star and then fine tune with manual focus and turn auto-focus off.

@christopherhume8896 3 жыл бұрын

I have so many photos of empty branches and ripples in the water where birds have disappeared using just one button to shoot I've never understood why people seem so obsessed with bbf. I didn't know about the focus stop set-up but will definitely be looking into that as I recompose shots quite often.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Christopher, I think we all have those shots no matter what method we choose! Best is whatever is comfortable for you :)

@ekevanderzee9538 3 жыл бұрын

With regards to haveing "others"use my camera, I just switch it to full auto before handing it to someone "less-initiated". The one person I know who does know how to handle a camera, I just remind him it's on back button. Alternatively, I have a "manual+auto iso" set up together with shutter release AF in a custom mode so I can determine aperture and shutter speed before handing it off to them.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the helpful tips. Great to hear you have this so well sorted out.

@tudorjones2993 3 жыл бұрын

Thought provoking as usual. I have tried BBF but find it difficult to sustain as I have arthritis in my thumb joints so the AF stop alternative might be an answer. I had seen the AF off option but hadn’t appreciated how useful it might be.

@raylander6329 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, great info again !!

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks again!

@patrickmontocchio 4 жыл бұрын

I use dual BBF all the time with afc on my Nikon gear. Group autofocus on the AF-ON button and single-point autofocus on the f1 button. It takes time to get used to work like this, but it has now become 2nd nature for me and I love it. Love your videos Will and am a great fan of South Africa as a nature photography destination.

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Patrick, thanks for watching and thanks for the comment, so glad you enjoy them! Really interesting to hear you are using dual BBF and that it's a group/single arrangement. I'm also interested to think how this will play out on mirrorless cameras because there may be more to do with our thumbs moving focus points on the lcd. I can't wait to get out there and take some pictures again!

@keimiyamoto1230 3 жыл бұрын

Nice and simple explanation! I am myself use both conventional focus (CF) and back button focus (BBF) on my two different bodies. My 90D is CF and the older 70D is BBF. The main reason is because my hand is not big enough, so everytime I hit the AF-On button, I introduce a little shake to the camera. The 90D offers One Shot↔Servo on AF-On button and I use this setting. While I still need to reach this button when shooting between tracking and stationery subject, I just need to hold the button. The point is, no need to use the AF-On button too often. I shoot in Servo most of the times after all, since the subject is wildlfe. But it can't be done with 70D, so instead I use BBF. It simply because it benefits me more with this setting than if I don't, though I need to be more careful when focusing, a bit slower than usual so I don't shake the camera. BBF is amazing and I most likely will use it when I have smaller body like EOS R cameras in the future.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting with your setup and use. I am sure this info will be very helpful to people. I didn't know that the 90D operated like that. Good to hear about some of the differences between the older and newer bodies.

@keimiyamoto1230 3 жыл бұрын

@@WillGoodlet Yes, we can assign AF-On button with One Shot ↔ Servo on newer Canon bodies like 90D. Whenever we hold down the button, it becomes One Shot or Servo, depends on what AF Operation we use at first place. It works almost as convenience as back button focus. In my case, I use Servo mostly, but everytime I need to shoot on One Shot, I just need to hold down the newly assigned AF-On button.

@danielrao3120 3 жыл бұрын

Another very interesting video packed with detail and ideas. The video has certainly made me think about all the possibilities which, I have to admit, I wasn't aware of. For me it's back to school ... :-)) Many thanks again.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching it Daniel, glad you found it interesting! But at the end of the day, whatever works for you is best I'm sure!

@lwanfry 3 жыл бұрын

In fact for me, they are both great depending on the case and if my camera allowed it I would have two sets of programs, with BBF and SBF pre-set. But generally speaking, after a long time using BBF and a quick rollback at SBF, BBF seem to be better overall. It's nice to have some idea of your focusing accuracy before firing a shot rather than trusting the camera will do fine. When I went back to focus w/shutter, I just couldn't get my brain around the stop focus button even after some months of use. So now I'm back to two BBF as you said, the main one for continuous AF with expand single spot, and the other one for single shot with single AF point.

@JohannFouche 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent! Thanks. Will try dual BBF!

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Johann! Let me know how it goes :) Happy shooting!

@petergottschling2597 3 жыл бұрын

Will, you made some creative points on back button. It never occurred to me to make one button different focus points than another. I switched to AF-On back button about 4 years ago and have been very pleased with it. Regards

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter, thanks a lot for watching and for the kind comment. I'm glad you got something useful out of it. BBF is a great way to shoot!

@EssexCountyPhoto 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, many thanks. I'm learning on a new-old-stock 80D, with a Tamron 150-600mm G2, and hopefully soon another new-old-stock 6D Mk2. I really can't use the traditional BBF method, call me clumsy, but the AF-stop, as a true beginner, is much easier to grasp. All I know is that when something appears in the sky, be it a plane or a goose, I don't have to fumble if I forget that the AF is on a *separate button! And if I hand my camera over to my wife, all she has to do is press the shutter button as normal, I know the AF will work. Keep up the great work! 🇬🇧🐸

@WillGoodlet 2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear and congrats on the new 6D2. I like af stop too - especially when mixing in video of moving animals - no refocusing on grass stems and twigs in the clips :)

@Hubbs3of6 3 жыл бұрын

Loved the video. I have 'liked' and subscribed. I have a 7D-2 also, so I am drawn to your videos. I have been using BBF for maybe a year and really like it. I like your style and find it easy to understand and follow. I also like to see your photo examples. I live in Los Angeles, so not much wildlife here.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Jonathan, thanks so much for watching, commenting, and subscribing! Great to have you on board and hope to see you around :) I'll try to include more photo examples in the videos. I think, living in LA you will need to find birds and small animals? They can make really fascinating stories if photographed creatively. I like a lot of the pics I see of urban wildlife and how they survive in cities. Check out Simon de Glanville's pigeons - www.google.com/search?sa=X&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=simon+de+glanville+pigeons&hl=en-GB&ved=2ahUKEwi704bn9dTuAhXyURUIHR7nABwQjJkEegQIAxAB&biw=1639&bih=788 and this gallery - www.theguardian.com/environment/gallery/2014/sep/12/urban-wildlife-in-pictures

@rogermullins7877 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Will. I have a couple of DSLR's and have used BBF for years. I like the theory of setting up a 'Zone Area' for BIF using a second back button but thought a low flying bird (no clear sky behind the bird) would cause the focus point to be confused and perhaps focus on a distant object. Recently bought an R5 and have the usual 'AF-On' button set for a single focus point, used to aquire the bird then the ' * ' button is set for Animal Eye detection.

@heartlandlight6862 3 жыл бұрын

BBF for a long time. I mostly shoot BIF. This is very well done. Complete without being “teachy.”

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and the feedback, greatly appreciated :)

@stefanglanz4825 3 жыл бұрын

thanks for the video Will, never thought or head of the AF-Stop, gonna try next time!

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Cool, thanks for watching Stefan!

@garyrowe58 3 жыл бұрын

IIve used AF stop for over 10 years now and you are the first person I've seen on youtube to talk about it - i find it to be the best of both worlds!

@catherinetremerryn 3 жыл бұрын

Love BBF. With Olympus, I set one of the top buttons to peaking, so that when on tripod with a remote, can see what is in focus as the area is highlighted.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

That's a nice idea. On the R5 I have made the 'set' button peaking but it only seems to show up in manual mode.

@subitkobiraj2402 3 жыл бұрын

I use back button focus. I am comfortable using back button focus

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear that Subit! Thanks for watching and commenting :)

@jimolson4993 3 жыл бұрын

Brand new to my 5DM4 and set up the dual back button system. I think I’m going to like it because it helps me find the birds in flight and then get them into focus.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds great Jim! Hope to hear of your success with it!

@christinepepper4053 4 жыл бұрын

By the way, as someone else has said: great intro to the vid: short and very sweet! Can't stand waiting 5 minutes before getting to the nitty gritty!

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks - I hate long intros too, I'd drop them entirely if possible. It's a tricky thing though, you have to make videos for two types of viewers. The ones that haven't seen any videos and the ones that have. So, if you make a video like this one, that will end up being viewed mainly as a search result, you have to somehow get across what the channel is about. With the documentary style videos, which don't get searched and naturally die off, you don't need an intro.

@christinepepper4053 4 жыл бұрын

@@WillGoodlet Yes, and you do want it to look professional and to be a bit like "your signature" ......just not too long!

@carolynvines2027 3 жыл бұрын

My favorite photography, dogs playing in the local dog parks, is similar to wildlife. I was planning to try back button focus the next time I get an opportunity to go out and shoot; but you've given a lot to think about. Overall, the advantages of back button focus seem to outweigh the disadvantages for me. However, I'm really liking the idea of single point focus on one button and wide focus on the other. I didn't see an opportunity of choosing which button to assign when I switched my Canon Rebel T3i to back button focus; but I'll take a further look.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if every camera has the option, Particularly, the slightly older ones. You may have to dig around in the menus and see what can be accomplished. You are right, dogs are very similar except way more energetic and usually come a bit closer too. They are probably harder for the focus system than most wildlife subjects (except flying birds) - so you and your camera have your work cut out!

@markpavey7984 3 жыл бұрын

Been using BBF for a couple of years now and have the 5Diii and 7Dii bodies as you do. Your videos cover the gap in content that I have found so I am delighted to have come across your channel. Didn’t appreciate the AF off configuration so the double BBF is one I will look at setting up tomorrow. Refreshed my enthusiasm to dig even deeper in my Canon set up. Thanks Mark

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Mark, so glad to hear that! Thank you :) How did the double BBF setup pan out?

@markpavey7984 3 жыл бұрын

Will Goodlet Works a treat thanks. Like it a lot and a lot more familiar with it so that I can switch back to Front Button Focus when the situation needs it. Cheers

@alanberry9643 3 жыл бұрын

As an enthusiast I tend to only get about and hour or two worth of BBF in when capturing my son’s basketball here in Perth Will, so haven’t tired of it yet; but thank for the tip. I envy your hours in the bush there in your short wheelbase and would be delighted to experience a sore thumb from BBF in the bush all those hours, lekker problem wat jy daar het! I had two defenders before leaving JHB for Perth. Hope the borders open soon so I can come and test for myself the AF Stop alternative! Thanks for the informative videos I think it’s pitched at just the right level.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Alan, great to get your insights and sorry there are no sore thumbs for you! Also glad to hear that two defenders is a normal number ;) Hope all is good over there. Stay safe and hope you come back soon.

@LifeOnLewis 4 жыл бұрын

I started using back button focus long before I got into wildlife photography and now find it indispensable for wildlife. AF-stop I think would be rather confusing and I can't see me using that but I've never even thought about dual back button and that sounds interesting. I'll get the camera out and practice on the local cats (sadly only the domestic kind!). Great explanation of the various options by the way.

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Les, I'm glad to hear that the video has sparked some ideas and I'm sure your cats will enjoy it too! Please let me know how you get on with it, it would be great to hear your thoughts. :)

@jamescampbell27 3 жыл бұрын

learned a couple of things I didn't know or think about and I have been using BBF for several years. The biggie for me was the ability to have different focus points on the * & AF On button. Not only that, but there were a couple of other options in the detail set menu like to go between One Shot and AF Servo. I haven't looked, but is there a way to restore on custom functions to a out of the box default. My reason is that I want to set them up again on one of the C1 - C3 - I do give the camera to others so focus under the shutter button would work better for them. Awesome video / right on task and to the point.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear it was helpful James! I just had a look at my camera and see there is an option to reset all custom functions and also to go to default button settings.

@grjlynch 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I might give back button a try. I really like that you also show the cons as well as the pros. Not many experts do this. I think the biggest might be when handing the camera to someone else!

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Gary, appreciate the comment too! Yes, it can be tricky when handing the camera over. Someone suggested in the comments, having a custom mode assigned for those times that sets the camera back to normal (or do it the other way and have a custom mode for back button). Cheers!

@rhodesia1578 3 жыл бұрын

Best feature I set up on all my cameras is “ back button focus “ !

@JPLamoureuxsTravels 3 жыл бұрын

Great stuff buddy. I’m a back button focus kind of guy... hmmmmm dual back button focus 🤔 I like the sound of that! Gonna give this a whirl 😜 .... another superb vlog and well presented as always 😉🤙.... JP

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Have fun! Dual BB is pretty cool. Been using it on the R5, it's actually vital on that.

@JPLamoureuxsTravels 3 жыл бұрын

Will Goodlet I’ll give it a go! Need my R5 to hurry up! 😂

@terryroth2855 4 жыл бұрын

Hello Will. I also use dual back button focusing on my Canon. It’s very useful for all wildlife photography.🙂

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Terry, interesting to hear that, I don't know that many people who use it personally. Great to know that you find it works well! Thanks for watching :)

@bitchplease1114 3 жыл бұрын

On my 7d mk2 I've also set up different AF modes to the two back buttons, together with different AF point selection for each of them.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

I've found it to be a highly useful and customisable camera. More so than the older 5D3, so like you I've been doing the same. Thanks for the feedback :)

@johntait5081 3 жыл бұрын

I've used two back buttons for years. One with a single focus point for static birds etc, and the second with a group of focus points and servo AF for birds in flight. I couldn't live without back button focus!

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

I only discovered it a bit later, really liking the idea :)

@jackieboshoff2013 2 жыл бұрын

I've been wanting to set up dual back button focus on my 5dmrkiii for a while now but simply cannot get it done. I've looked at other KZfaq videos and my menu is not as detailed as shown in the videos. If I press info for a detailed menu I only have and option to Manually select AF point or Register Af point. That's it nothing else where I can select the drive mode or focus zones

@WillGoodlet 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jackie I’ve sold my 5D3 since this but I think it’s single BBF only, it’s just a little bit of an older camera vs the 7D2 which does support it.

@jackieboshoff2013 2 жыл бұрын

@@WillGoodlet thanks for getting back to me Will. Yes my partner's 7dmrkii has the detailed menu to customize a 2nd back focus button. But she doesn't like BBF 🙈. And I like BBF but cannot set it up for Dual BBF 😏

@WillGoodlet 2 жыл бұрын

@@jackieboshoff2013 it’s a bummer sorry - but the 5D3 takes beautiful shots at least!

@trevorpsy 2 жыл бұрын

I have tried BBF, gotten rid of it, and tried it again, and then gave up. I can't get past the awkward movement necessary. It takes my mind of the shot. Whereas, the traditional method is automatic. HOWEVER, I love you AF-Stop idea!

@WillGoodlet 2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear Trevor. Hope it's working out. I all takes a bit of getting used to. I use BBF for photos and AF-Stop for video, so there's some gymnastics going on for me too :)

@b_cn_u1027 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks I needed this information. I use a Nikon 810 and the Focus options are like yours any function at numerous buttons. I just started using af-c on snail kites and watched your video on bird photography on the wing. Great info Thanks

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Happy it was useful Cassidy. Wish I could have tried out a D810 myself!

@christinepepper4053 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that useful vid, Will. I have used BBF on my Nikons for a few years now and have found it invaluable for shooting wildlife. I also have the joystick button set up for the dynamic multi point focus and another button set up for single point. For me, speed is nearly always of the essence. So far I haven't had the repetitive strain type injury that you appear to have, but do suffer a little with gripping the camera. I'm sure camera makers are men as my small hands do struggle and my fingers have to stretch further to reach the different buttons. For anyone who has never tried BBF...I recommend giving it a try.

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Christine, thanks for taking a look! I must check out this Joystick setup on Nikons. I wonder if Canon can do it or not. Will have to watch some videos and learn about it. Yes, I've often wondered about camera sizing and right hand only too - at least with some of the old medium formats you could put the handle on your preferred side - I see some of the 3D printed grips allow for this now. I suppose that will be one of the great advances at some point, the ability to size them but keep function. I imagine, that at some point (perhaps now) it will be fairly easy to focus and expose the image and the testament to great photos will become less technical but more artistic and more about the captured story or experience. I think photo editing decisions will also become even more important.

@christinepepper4053 4 жыл бұрын

@@WillGoodlet Well, to be fair, Will, I suppose the joystick is only marginally quicker, and therefore a little more useful, than using the scrolling thingy, so don't get too jealous 😁🤓

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Haha ok. But I love cameras, there's something to like in most of them. If I hadn't been invested in Canon lenses, I would have snapped up a D810-D850 long ago. I would love to try the sony's and having started with minolta and pentax, I still like them too :)

@wildpatagoniafilms16 3 жыл бұрын

Another great video mate! Thank you! Question for you: do you have any videos on how to meter correctly to photographing the "typical" bid red sunset in Africa with let's say... the silhouette of a big mammal? (elephant... giraffe... rhino...etc...) I know that a long tele helps to make the sun bigger and get the "mammal" the same size as the sun... but I would like to know what is your system of "metering" correctly... to get the right exposure & colors... thank you!!!!

@kevinwebb9344 4 жыл бұрын

Great tips ,must try that stop focus method on my Nikon ,sounds the way to go

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Kevin Webb yes it’s actually pretty easy to get used to! Thanks for watching :)

@kevinwebb9344 4 жыл бұрын

@@WillGoodlet can't wait to get back to the bush,and give it a try,all of your videos have been very helpful and inspiring

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Kevin Webb that’s really kind, thanks. Yep will be great to get back out there. I’ll savour every moment when we finally do it :)

@garywebb5912 3 жыл бұрын

BBF for me always, never thought about focus stop as an option, but for me I think BBF is great. I have focus options set as custom key 2 on my Sony Alpha cameras so very quick to change from zone or wide from spot, similar to dual focus in some ways. Though the tracking function is amazing now so think I'll be stuck there mostly.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

If it ain't broke... Sounds like you have your setup dialled in!

@bjarnehansen3812 3 жыл бұрын

I only use BBF in special cases so I have BBF in C3 (custom mode) and AF on the shutter as default. I think BBF locks my thumb too much as I need it for changing focus point, adjust exposure etc. I use AF stop on the * button instead. Especially on my R5 I find this configuration very useful: Eye/Animal detect on the AF-ON button, normal AF on the shutter, AF stop on the "*". This way I can easy use the normal focus modes to select my subject and then press AF-ON to track the eye of the subject.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Bjarne, your explanation makes a lot of sense to me. Yes, I've also found that the R5 with shutter button AF is a nice way to go with AF stop. I haven't yet decided on what I like best. I really like that I can program different focus functionality for video too.

@CarlHackman 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, Will. I'm new to photography and have started using back button focus recently and am beginning to find it very natural. I may and try the dual back button focus but not sure I can do that with the T2i, maybe when I get a 7D MKII it will be worth it because I am starting to attempt more 'birds in flight' shots. One thing I find irritating which is probably a user error somewhere, is that when I try to grab a shot and the camera has to wake up it automatically tries to refocus and I have missed shots because of it. I am now consciously waking the camera up regularly to prevent this happening. Is this normal or have I missed something in my settings?

@tyrondix4339 4 жыл бұрын

The intro is incredible

@tyrondix4339 4 жыл бұрын

I try stop on each photo to look at it😅

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Haha good luck with that Tyron :)

@LieslHuddleston 4 жыл бұрын

Looks like BBF is good for all genres of photography. It's nice to see the way you handle it and some alternative methods. I learned how to do it when I did portrait photography because I sometimes worked with young kids and I could focus and recompose quickly while they were running around. It helps me get a high rate of keeper shots for macros and close-ups too, I still focus and recompose out of the habit a lot of the time, so often focus with a single point in the middle and then just adjust the composition quickly. I rarely use manual focus even for macro subjects, perhaps I'm lazy (or I don't know what I'm doing ha!). I've been meaning to make a video about it too since I get a lot of questions about focusing for close-ups, but I'm not good with all the technical terms since I taught myself my crazy ways, we'll see!

@LieslHuddleston 4 жыл бұрын

Oh I was going to say too, these new camera's like the R5 & R6 are going to be such a game-changer, when I get my hands on one in a few years when/if I can afford one LOL Seeing how easily people can focus with them now... and in 10 years when we tell people how hard it used to be to focus LOL

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Liesl, yes it's a pretty handy technique. The dual setup might be interesting for you when you have your 100-400 on, maybe where you could be switching from close-up to birds? I haven't fully explored the options but you can change quite a lot for each button - maybe even the focus case (which might be the biggest thing). I'd certainly like to hear about your focusing techniques, also any other tricks, lighting, diffusers, focus rails, clamps etc... that you might be using - although from your videos you seem to manage without any of that stuff!? I struggle to hold still for macro, I sway back and forth slightly and can hear the AF working hard on my little 100 f2.8. Would be great to know how you work to overcome these issues.

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Yes they are going to be game changers. I was going to wait before ordering one, but I got wind of a 12% price hike they were going to apply here, so I bit the bullet and ordered the R5. I'm not sure I made the right choice over the R6 - the only thing that persuaded me on the R5 was the higher MP count because I shoot a short telephoto (unlike most of my contemporaries) and I have been waiting YEARS for canon to release a camera with a high MP count capable of fast frame rates. Hopefully the pain in the wallet will wear off at some point!

@LieslHuddleston 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, very few tricks and no extra stuff, (not very professional, ha!) I have flash equipment and I keep thinking I should play with flash more, and I have a focusing rail still in the box, but I do enjoy the freedom of just 'me & my camera.’I think you made the right decision based on the work you do, and it seems the outcry about the camera overheating is from a group of people that don’t like Canon. How many people are actually going to use the R5 for 8K film for more than several minutes? One would need quite a powerful computer to edit an 8K film of 20 minutes, etc. If someone did that kind of work, they would likely have a bigger budget with a cinema camera and a computer set up to handle it all. Anyway, it is the 45MP as you say that is the allure. That is going to open up a world of possibilities. I feel the same for close-up work, can you imagine a true macro image at 45MP!Right now I’m about to replace my MacBook and that will cost almost as much as a new camera, so it’ll be a while for me.I’m happy for you and excited to see how you get on with the R5!

@fengirl8996 3 жыл бұрын

I use BBF on my 7D. but! I get a bit confused about when to take your thumb off when tracking a bird or animal before using the shutter button. There are a lot of conflicting videos out there. some say keep your thumb on while pressing the shutter button, or they don't mention it at all. I think i a going to try the AF/sto p method . you suggested.

@tim66612343 3 жыл бұрын

I use BBF but keep the half press focus switched on. TBH it was mainly while I got myself in the habit of BBF so I should probably switch it off now. Not heard of the stop focus but I’m not shooting for hours so maybe I just don’t need it yet. Good to know about though so thank you.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tim, great to hear you got something from it. I've come to really enjoy BBF, but I don't use it all the time. I am happy to switch depending on what I'm doing. Thanks for coming here to say Hi :)

@avishekchatterjeephotograpy 3 жыл бұрын

A nice video to learn focusing. Can you please more details on Double back button focusing and Canon custom function.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Avishek, sorry for the late reply! Thanks for watching it.. You probably have found the Information you wanted already? I just use one button setup with single point focus and the second button setup with zone focus. This way, I can switch between then very easily when the situation changes. On the Canon R5 I make use of a kind of triple back button focus. Because that camera can have different button assignments between video and stills, I use one button to STOP focus in video mode. this is really useful to stop the camera refocusing on plants the animal is walking behind when panning with the animal in video mode.

@bruceleonard3096 3 жыл бұрын

Great explanation, however, as one of the lucky ones who just got the Canon R5 I have switched to dual back button focus. I set one to spot and the other to animal eye, which is life changing. You can spot autofocus or when using the animal eye autofocus it will start where the spot was. It’s so accurate, fast and covers the entire viewfinder. Game changer!

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Bruce, I am doing the same. It's very good. Do you use teleconverters? My camera is freezing and switching off when using TCs on the 400 F2.8 ii - freeze occurs when holding AF for +/- 30seconds. The event lasts around 20 seconds and the camera blacks out and restarts. Would be grateful to know if you have any similar experiences.

@bruceleonard3096 3 жыл бұрын

Will Goodlet I haven’t tried my TCs with this camera yet. I’ll have to give it a try. I don’t have a 400mm but I can try with my 500 f4 IS. I just saw there is another firmware update. It seems they have a number of bugs to still work out. I’ll let you know.

@jeroenenannieke 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Will, great video. I use back button focus. Unfortunately I can't do dual back button on my 6D mark II. Would love to have tried that. I will try the tip for using the back button only for focus stop. So the shutter button works as normal and my wife understands the camera too :-) Thnx!

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Jeroen, thanks for watching and commenting with what you do. Yeah, the cameras are all a little bit different.

@jeppersted5273 3 жыл бұрын

LOVE your videos! What is your setup? Do you go for dual bbf? Im reaæly consodering it after watching your video

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeppe! I mix it up depending on what I am shooting and what body. I find the mirrorless requires different settings to dslr. But mainly dual back button with one set to point and the other to area. Thanks for watching and commenting!!

@mieczyslawkuzma3739 4 жыл бұрын

Well done explanation, Will I have been using BBF for many years and the only problem is when I give my camera to someone who does not know this method. He is a little confused AF stop button sounds interesting to me, but I would rather try the two-button method. Let's see, maybe during the next trip.

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mieczyslaw, appreciate you taking the time to let me know! Always scary, doing this type of subject as it will certainly show up any holes in ones delivery or thinking. But I thought it was worth talking about the other methods. If you try them, let me know how it turns out! :)

@ekevanderzee9538 3 жыл бұрын

It's easily reprogrammable. Or, set up a custom mode with novice friendly settings ready to go.

@peteryates308 4 жыл бұрын

I'm a Nikon shooter have used back button focus for years and years. I mainly photograph birds and spend 90% of my time on single point. I map the joystick button to both select group mode and engage AF, to give me a bit more leeway for birds in flight. Steve Perry has a great video on this setup, worth a look

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter, thanks for the insights, really interested to hear how you map the joystick. I have never had my hands on a Nikon, but I would like to know how you shoot them too. I'll have a search for Steve's video on it. Cheers!

@peteryates308 4 жыл бұрын

@@WillGoodlet Thanks Will. I've really been enjoying your channel over the last few months, great shots and locations. I can't find the exact video I was referring to (Steve has about thirty videos on the topic of Nikon AF!) but here's Tom Mason showing how to set up the same thing kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qqykd9yHlsXXp6M.html

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for coming back to leave the link, I will watch it with interest when I am more awake in the morning! :)

@christinepepper4053 4 жыл бұрын

Steve Perry is a font of knowledge for Nikon shooters and well worth a look

@gileselliott 4 жыл бұрын

Clearest explanation of back button focus I have ever found. I will take this as a nudge to experiment

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Giles, I'm surprised you haven't already!? Don't you shoot the Olympus? It's got so many options to play with!

@gileselliott 3 жыл бұрын

Will Goodlet I walk around a lot with the camera, so it is only when I am sat waiting for a kingfisher to land on a perch that I’ve been tempted to use bbf. I will give it a go and let you know. Wonderful feature of Olympus high end cameras is pro capture. You half depress the shutter button and it starts writing shots to the buffer, but only writes to the card when the button is fully depressed - at that point saving 16 frames before the button is pressed. Great for capturing a moment and not missing it because of one’s reaction time.

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Yes I am very jealous of pro-capture having tried it out briefly when reviewing the EM-1 Mark ii. I'd love to use it more.

@gileselliott 3 жыл бұрын

@@WillGoodlet It is a wonderful thing. Not quite as magical as Topaz DeNoise, but up there on the list of inexplicable marvels of our age. Completely different subject - how is lockdown over there? To be specific, my flight from London to J'berg in first week of November just got cancelled - I have onward connection to Kasane I am not going to make... is there any information in your local press on when flight restrictions are likely to be lifted, before I just give in for this year!

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Giles Elliott there will be an easing on the 15th august, just what that means I am unsure. I believe Namibia is largely open internally - perhaps a connection from Windhoek may be possible? Alternatively, we have some camps opening in Rwanda (magashi) and in the Masai Mara (governors) - I can put you in touch?

@kenmaier6870 4 жыл бұрын

Will - great video, thx. I have been using Dual back button focus for years and find it to be an absolute requirement for any Camera Body I use. In fact, there is a triple back button focus method that is in my opinion cumbersome and not for me. The two buttons on my 7D2 is to alternate between single point zone (stationary bird) and multi-point zone (BIF). I then use my custom settings to have different AF zones. I haven't heard of using AF off as one of the buttons. I'll have to experiment, but not sure how that would work on dual BBF BTW - my experience is that not all Canon bodies can do Dual BBF, like the 90D. I'm hoping the R5 and R6 can

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking a look Ken and especially for dropping me a line to let me know how you work - great info! Haven't heard of triple back button! Nice move to put the zones on the custom settings (the dials/mode or the menu?). You are right, not all the bodies can do it. My 5D 3 can't although I updated the firmware to double check and noticed a few additional focus options I could apply - just the point selection though.

@4fritz11 3 жыл бұрын

@@WillGoodlet I have configured a slightly different triple back button on my 5D4 and 7D2. I have the AF-ON set to single center focus point, the * set to center cluster focus points and I set the DOF button (in conjunction with either of the previous two buttons) to be all focus points. This is usefull when the subject is in front of a featureless background such as the open sky. Also, like you, I have a thumb injury from extended back button use. The AF-OFF feature look intriguing.

@rgmichel 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for these tips. I will experiment with these things because they look so useful. Are you finding that any of these back-button approaches are different now you are using the Canon R5?

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Yes! I haven't decided what I like best yet - but I find that I don't mind having focus on the front shutter button on the R5 and use the Stop focus technique. I also find that stills and video on the R5 require different assignments - because video I normally want to stop focus and stills I normally want to continuous focus.

@deanmclachlan7082 4 жыл бұрын

Morning Will, I have been using back button autofocus exclusively since 2007 with my Canon 1D3. I swear by it and if I ever give another photographer any advice when starting their photographic journey, it's always the benefits of back button autofocus :-)

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Dean, yep it's a really useful technique. When I used to sit in bird hides (in a time long long ago it seems!) with other photographers I was always interested to hear that beep-beep focus acquisition sound coming from their cameras. It seems amazing that many haven't yet discovered servo mode let alone BBF despite the investment in gear. Are you still shooting with the 1D3? I LOVED my 1D Mark iiN which had some similarities. Feels so good in hand and such an incredible AF system, I swear it could tap into my thoughts :)

@deanmclachlan7082 4 жыл бұрын

@@WillGoodlet Ahh, my beloved 1D3 - which I had for 5 years. No, unfortunately I don't have that camera anymore. You're right about the Canon 1D series, they are phenomenal cameras and I for one have always loved the big pro cameras with the integral vertical grip - especially when attached to a big tele prime. However, I now shoot with the Nikon D5 and D500 since 2016 and have zero intention replacing them anytime soon. With these two camera bodies and my 600mm f4 and 70-200 f2.8 lens, I'm totally covered for all my wildlife photography needs :-)

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

Well, I bet the D5 feels pretty much the same. 600F4 and a D5 is a good combo :) I had to think long and hard about whether to go for a 600f4 or my 400f2.8. I wish I had both, but that would be a little too profligate with the cash :) I think the wider lens has worked well with our large game here. I'm looking forward to trying it with more megapixels though for the small stuff.

@deanmclachlan7082 4 жыл бұрын

@@WillGoodlet The D5 with both lenses is excellent and I only use the D500 in situations where I would have reached for a teleconverter. Over the last few years I have been very tempted to reply the D500 with the high megapixel D850 which if needed would give me the same 'reach' as the D500 plus I'd be able to mount my 70 to 200 to the D850 (for which there are numerous pros) and have the 600 permanently attached to the D5. The ONLY reason I have not done that is because I love the D5 so much that I fear having the D850 would seriously threaten me always using the D5. The 400mm f2.8 lens that you have is phenomenal and like you said, perfect for larger mammals. It also offer excellent versatility when used on a crop or high megapixel sensor as well as great options with both the 1.4x and 2x teleconverters. If money wasn't a consideration, I still don't think one needs a 400 f2.8 and a 600 f4

@andrewwashington4946 3 жыл бұрын

How about a video on how you set up your 7D Mark 2 for wildlife on safari and if its different for bird photography. Please !

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion Andrew. OK, I'll have a think about it. I do change things depending on what's happening so I wouldn't want to give the impression that my camera is always set up one way or another. I don't mind moving things around if it helps get a shot - particularly focus cases.

@nordic5490 3 жыл бұрын

A Canon USA lecture keynote speaker was talking about bif, and advocated using AF stop. Then I saw a another birder I respected also claiming AF stop was better for him, so.... for 5years now I have been using AF stop, and I never bothered with BBF. Shooting landscapes or astro ? Flick the switch on your lens to manual focus - too easy - you should have done that already anyhow.

@petergottschling2597 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Will, I found your video on 13 secrets to get sharper pictures very useful. You made several points I had not considered before but the biggest is that coming from film about 16 years ago with a 10D I have generally shot the 1/focal length rule. Some things are very sharp and some I wonder if I had palsy that day. I will definitely raise my shutter speed. By the way I totally agree with all the points you made on the Canon 100-400 L USM II. I followed your R5 in the field review and will look for your favorite settings when I get mine in a few months. Regards Peter

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter, glad it was useful! I think your story about varied results chimes with a lot of people. I had the same thing moving away from film to early DSLR (getting great shots) then progressing to high MP bodies and finding them looking worse. I think it's also important that with the High Res images we are able to 'magnify' the view much more and if you think about that, what it means is that, although our shake and subject movement is the same, we can zoom into it so much that it looks worse than it did on older lower res cameras. A higher shutter speed compensates for that, but so does simply not zooming in. Or scaling the image to a similar resolution to the older cameras. If you take the 45mp R5 and have what appears to be a soft shot at 100% if you scale it to 8mp (same as let's say a 2006 1D Mark iiN) it will probably look incredible. The R5 is a brilliant camera - I hope I came off balanced and not negative in the review - I'm keeping mine! You will enjoy yours!!

@zigatretjak75 3 жыл бұрын

Very good vlog but how much is that needed with mirrorless cameras?

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

It still seems important to me, I'm certainly using these techniques on mine.

@rodneypreisch6847 3 жыл бұрын

What about assigning the AF button to toggle between servo/one shot and the "star" button to do eye tracking ??

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

With focus on the shutter button? Sounds reasonable on the R5/6 - I don’t have mine setup like that as I rarely use one shot. But it’s great to have all these options

@kenstav1 4 жыл бұрын

Once I got used to bbf I never looked back and find it strange using shutter button now

@WillGoodlet 4 жыл бұрын

It's a great way to work Ken. I like to try different things to see if I can, sometimes I chop and change depending on what I am trying to photograph. But generally, it's a version of Back Button for me too.

@mondujar279 3 жыл бұрын

I use back button focus all the time now basically for almost every occasion. But it took a few years on and off to get used to it, muscle memory problems I guess. I decided to persevere because I could see the advantages, and eventually it stuck. Would never go back now. I mainly shoot birds but also aircraft with a Canon 5dsr

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Andrew, thanks for watching and great to get your experiences with it too. I also find it invaluable, but don't mind switching around. I think a lot depends on what you are shooting and for birds and aircraft It's a great technique as you know!

@mondujar279 3 жыл бұрын

Will Goodlet You mentioned Grant Atkinson in the video, I used to follow his you tube channel but don’t think he does it anymore. Is he ok?

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Yes I think he's OK, he's active on Facebook quite a lot. I think he just got too busy to make videos also, I think he had been making them with a production team and that is probably very expensive. All of us in the Safari business are in survival mode at the moment. It's looking like July 2021 before we even get back to some kind of revenue let alone recovery.

@mondujar279 3 жыл бұрын

Will Goodlet Yes I sympathise and hope you make it through this challenging time. My wife and I may be interested in a safari within next year or two as I am due to retire 2021. To us it’s the holiday of a lifetime. I will check your website

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks I appreciate it. My website is just for my own thoughts & photography - no commercial intent. I got to know Grant while he was guiding at Wilderness Safaris and although I am not directly involved, I can put you in contact.

@christineprice9695 3 жыл бұрын

How do you set up dual back button focus

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Christine, it depends on what camera you are using. With regard to Canon, it is the same procedure just on an alternative button. I use exposure lock and AF ON as my buttons.

@ianwaldren116 3 жыл бұрын

Use the 7D Mk2 mainly for BIF, have found the best option is to have the shutter button set to Servo and one shot set to a back button. On my back up body 80D this is not possible so I use standard back button set up. Back button set ups are essential for wildlife photography and easy to adjust to when first using. Have not found the need for dual back button but will set up and experiment. Ianwaldrennaturephotography.com

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and the insights into how you use BBF on your 7D2 and 80D. Much appreciated!

@robgerety 2 жыл бұрын

When you set up the back button to AF/Stop - do you have to hold the button down to prevent the shutter button from starting autofocus when half pressed?

@WillGoodlet 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Robert, yes the button stops all focusing while you hold it in.

@robgerety 2 жыл бұрын

@@WillGoodlet I think I will stick with back button focus - actually dual back button - and take auto focus off the shutter button. I have been happy with that system. It works well for moving and stationary subjects.

@ivanwhitehall3899 3 жыл бұрын

Another refinement is to dial a choice in on one of the Custom functions

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

ivan whitehall yes I believe so - miine are all taken up with video settings so I forgot

@ivanwhitehall3899 3 жыл бұрын

@@WillGoodlet Thanks from Canada. I recently purchased an R5- so I have three back button focuses the two we discussed plus another on the star button for eye AF

@WillGoodlet 3 жыл бұрын

ivan whitehall congratulations on the new cam! Hope you are enjoying it.

@ivanwhitehall3899 3 жыл бұрын

@@WillGoodlet Yes. Very similar to 5D Mkiv but superior every way. I enjoyed your video- will follow! and look forward to new ones.

@frankkolwicz9612 2 жыл бұрын

Why can't the button be a "latching" switch. A latching switch doesn't have to be held continuously, it stays on until it's turned off by clicking it again, like the button for switching to chimping - viewing your in-camera images, and the magnification button and the Q button, none of which are allowed to be customized on my R5. As another thumb-damaged old photog, I would find a latching button usable for back button focusing, but, only if it's one I didn't have to hold continuously with my sore thumb. Click, on, use it until conditions change and then click off. One click would start focus tracking, another would stop it for recomposition. (Of course with eye focus tracking, the need for reframing is minimized.) Seems like there would also be no need to use two buttons, focus on and focus off, too, freeing a button for some other critical use. This seems eminently possible, given that the buttons themselves don't need or have mechanical latching, it's in the software/firmware that determines how they work.

@WillGoodlet 2 жыл бұрын

Good points Frank