HE DID THE ADJUST-GLASSES ANIME THING LOL

The credit music that plays in this ending is the same for the mementos prison, as now all of humanity is now eternally trapped in it

The real punishment is the face of Lavenza being betrayed

"I'm gonna make these two people fight but if the one I don't like wins I'll cheat and just kill him."

I feel bad for the guy who had to go through this entire game and beat all 7 palaces just to choose the wrong option...

You see that’s where the trouble began that smile. that Damn smile

Sojiro: "Don't go getting dragged into trouble." Joker: *"Trouble is my middle name."*

Joker was accepting victory like he was light yagami killing all evil in the world and becoming a god.

All the people who keep saying "ya know, the deal wasn't so bad" even though it was at the cost of free will shows how they completely missed the point of the game

I love when Igor reveals he's actually the god of destruction and his confidant maxes out

A great bad ending. Akira betrays everyone and sacrifices them all for a chance to go on living his own life, warped by the God of Control. Even Lavenza had no idea Akira would actually agree. You even outsmarted Igor Alll of his friends are dead and nobody even knows who they were. That evil smirk at the end was fantastic too

Why did I die from fear and laughter when Igor started levitating?

I feel like there was some untapped potential for angst and sadness for picking this ending. Maybe you could've seen all the Phantom theives and other friends be the only ones to realize Akira's/Ren's corruption and despise him or maybe see how the world isn't real and Akira/Ren is just trapped inside a palace. Would've been cool as fuck

Mishima: “Was this really what they wanted the whole time? Heh, I suppose they are _thieves_ after all”

A"kira"

It would have been awesome for the phantom thieves have to fight joker and you still be controlling joker so if you win the ending is carried through and if you lose you die and the phantom thieves have to kill Igor

I love his evile smirk.

Fake Igor: Join me, trickster Lavenza: he would never *Last Surprise starts playing background*

This ending is just like Corpse Party, only Joker survived and his friends were being abandon left to die in Velvet Room. And I bet Sojiro will say who is Futaba? She doesn't exist at all. The same goes for those who were related to from Ryuji to Haru, as if they wasn't exist to begin with. In the end Joker has become corrupted person with that damned evil smile, showing that he is a completely a changed evil man. Welp I can't say I am correct lol.

What I like the most about this ending is that it is broad enough to be open to interpretation. Yes, I know the popular opinion is that Joker becomes "the very thing he sought to destroy" by "trading the free will of humanity for fame". However, that is not the only way to interpret the deal if you think about it. Imagine that Joker believes that he really screwed up by entering an unwinnable fight, one that has claimed the lives of his teammates and damned humanity to the point of being nothing more than mindless drones in a world fused with the metaverse. He would do anything for a chance to undo his decision to "reform society", a goal that he no longer feels he can possibly accomplish given the scope of the problem. This deal essentially undoes all of the damage he feels his actions have caused, and while it condemns the public to be prisoners of their subconscious desires, it is not any different than the fate they would have been subject to anyway. I could see Joker accept this deal simply as an admission of defeat, acknowledging that this is the only way he feels that he can save humanity after throwing the world into chaos. Having the Phantom Thieves clear their names would just be seen as an added bonus.

Honestly, in my interpretation of this ending, Joker is just getting revenge back at society for ruining his life. I highly doubt you can get a job anywhere if you've been on probation once.

an evil ren, huh? Interesting...

Glad I didn't choose this ending but was curious after I beat the game to see what happened if I accepted his offer. So I found this video

Lmao i love how there's little to no difference between the masses with free will and the masses without

Gotta love the calming music over the trafficing children organs though

Sojiro: Don't go getting dragged into trouble. Joker: You clearly don’t know who you’re talking to so let me clue you in. I am not in trouble, Sojiro. I am the trouble.

I clicked the "accept offer" ption thinking it was the good ending lol

I remember getting confused by igors use of words on his deal offer and i almost accepted it if it wasnt for the second message asking if it was the right option

Just finished this game and got the “good” ending. This is my breakdown of this one: So in this ending, Joker basically becomes Akechi. However, instead of plotting to take his revenge out on his father, he takes it out on the world. Ann, Ryuji, Yusuke, Makoto, Futaba, and Haru are all eternally trapped in the Velvet Room because they’ve all submitted to the detrimental flow of society. They all are now the slaves they wanted to free in Mementos. They are most likely a memory as the world was restored without them. This is hinted as Sojiro insinuates that he doesn’t know Joker is a Phantom Thief. Morgana gets his memories back, and realizes he failed his mission from the true Igor. Lavenza also can’t help but watch as her rehabilitation has failed in Joker. Society still elects Shido, however it is all for naught as the only Phantom Thief remaining takes on the nation as the sole figure of justice. He has truly achieved global influence. I wish this ending lasted longer. It would definitely give off more ominous vibes if it was shown that Joker’s friends are hopeless in this situation.

I like Persona bad endings, like in Persona 3 for example, they might seem ok to some people or without context, but if you analize the situation, it is a horrible ending

I love this ending because Joker clearly loves playing into the role of being a thief and fighting shadows so he just gives up on humanity to continue doing what he loves

In this ending Joker gives huge middle finger to society and I love it!

Now that I look back at this ending I think it would've been cool if Ren had went back to the velvet room to see his friends captured and them upset their leader, friend turned on them for his own self benefit, everyone yelling at him, but he turns around and laughs manically as he walks away

A bad ending done well. Think about it, you fell into yalbadoth's schemes. You become a corrupt figure yourself. Was surprised they didn't add DLC where his teamates have to fight shadow joker

Akira is basically Griffith in this ending.

People who think "Aha! This ending exists to show the difference between people who 'really appreciated' the game and people who just want a power-trip" have missed the entire point of how this game differs from 3 and 4. All those bosses you fought, even Kaneshiro, (along the lines of criminals at least) were normal and well-behaved... right up until they weren't. In each case, the palace owner found themselves in a position of authority that they could truly abuse to their own benefit and to the detriment of those around them. (Yes, even Kaneshiro's behavior marks a departure from criminal norms.) Why should Joker be so different, so pure, that his succumbing to this temptation should be viewed as at odds with his behavior? In this game, it's possible to be a criminal, a condescending jerk, a philanderer and a leech upon your benefactor (Sojiro) but this, this, is too far to bear consideration?

I picked this option as a joke thinking "there's no way anythings gonna happen. Lavenza is just gonna talk me outta it anyways." Boy! Was i wrong.

it wouldve been so sick if akira developed a palace bc of this

I love how Lavenza gives him the "?!" that vividly makes a sound in your head

Suprized Levenza didn't all-out-attack Joker considering she curb stomped me at least 20 times in her hidden boss battle

You cut the adventure by killing god and showing your justice, as a hero. Or you stay too long, full of distorted desires, and see yourself become a villain.

"Yeah, sorry Lavenza... Maybe if your bitch half didn't kick the crap out of me every time I tried to walk into the Velvet Room, things would have ended differently!"

This ending frustrates me. I either like it or hate it based on an unknown variable. What happened to the rest of the Phantom Thieves? There is evidence to support four different scenarios. 1) The rest of the Phantom Thieves are all alive and functioning. It's called "Good Ending" in the game files. It appears he stays in the city, too. If this is the case, I think I may like this ending better. 2) The rest of the Phantom Thieves are alive, but have lost their will to fight. If Joker never speaks to them, they lose their ability to use their persona. With Joker accepting this deal, he is the lone member of the Phantom Thieves. I doubt he'd be able to convince them after accepting a deal like that. If this is the case, this ending is very neutral and I don't really hate it. It would mean his friends would eventually prefer to be controlled though. 3) The rest of the Phantom Thieves died in the velvet room, and everyone forgot they existed because of their cognition. This would be bitter, and I would now hate this ending. 4) Joker left everyone to die in the Velvet Room. This can now not be considered a good ending at all.

This game nailed the True Ending more than Royal, whereas Royal had a much more terrifying Bad Ending than the original did.

joker has two potential sides - the righteous and the selfish one. and the player can chose which one fits more. i think they're both portrayed brilliantly, although the good ending is significantly more generic for my old ass

I think this ending is quite scary because Joker accepts Igor's deal, Lavenza felt betrayed, his friends trapped in the Velvet Room forever and people stopped thinking for themselves and be guided by an evil god. It just makes me feel that I want to cry and regretted if I choose this bad ending.

I love Persona for all the small things. Like putting Credits after this to implie it ends like that instead of a game over, since everyone probably just did load i dont think someone did go "yep thats the end next game"

The world became his palace

This kinda sucks. Not because you pick the wrong choice but the fact that it's only MC point of view. I would love to the reaction of the other members of the Phantom thieves and see how they react, if they know at all. Following a leader that damned mankind from free will. And to be perfectly honest, this isn't a bad deal. Everyone see you as heros, the cop are off your tail, and anyone stand a chance against you aka Pancake Boi is probably dead. Plus, crime and suicide rates are dropping and what cost, "free will" like anyone was using it anyway. But that my opinion, please prove me wrong. I like to hear your opinion.

Lavenza….don’t act like you’re so innocent, your halves hit and beat him at times in his metaverse prison, causing more nihilism to exist in his heart, along with everything happening in the outside world. I wouldn’t blame him if he let the world tear itself apart back to ruin.

Just remember that this is what Akechi wanted

That was my first ending in Persona 5. Actually I thought False Igor will bring back my friends because he said that Phantom Thieves will gain fame. So, I decided to deal with Igor to bring them back. I didn't care about society being trapped because it its own fault in being irresponsible, ignorant and trapped in their desires. That's why Yaldabaoth appeared. He just granted them what they wanted. That's why I didn't care that False Igor will be controlling them. As I said, the goal of this for me was just bring my friends back. However, seeing Joker without them and with this evil smile gives me a dissonance. It seems False God got me. P.S. Sorry for my English, it's not my native language

They have a Law ending and a Bad ending now all they need is a Chaos ending instead of the Neutral true ending we got (or is it the other way around? Would Joker and the PTs killing Yaldabaoth to free humanity from it’s clutches count as Chaos?) I’m counting on Royal to give us a bunch of great story extensions that’ll satisfy me and the whole fanbase.

5:30 - you’re not fooling me false Igor. I know that’s your voice

"Seeding control isn't the answer, because you'll never truly know if it cares about human life, about all human lives."

I love how the credits play the Mementos Depths theme, kinda like how the normal Good ending in p4 plays the Yomotsu Hirasaka theme in it’s credits

This ending is Joker pretty much becoming Light from Death Note

WOW LOOKING COOL JOKER

The TRUE ending, in my opinion. The Phantom Thieves were never heroes, they were criminals, vigilantes who forced people to abbandon their personalities and beliefs by "stealing their hearts". Your teammates have suffered, that's true, but that is no excuse to abuse and pervert the humanity of others, even if they are criminals themselves. The Main Character is no different. And now, at the end of the game, you suddenly change and want to become some kind of Liberator, a Hero ? Nah... Joker, a true Trickester would have taken the deal.

well...he kept his word, though I feel it's all anticlimatical, I expected a heavy cost at the end

I love that this game isn't about good against evil, it's about law against freedom. Both are essential, but it's easy for one of them to take over by making the law to strict or the freedom to great.

At 5:35 the businessman in Shibuya is, I'm pretty certain, voiced by David Lodge. He is the voice of fake Igor in this game, but he also voiced Jeralt in Fire Emblem Three Houses. The businessman is literally him doing his Jeralt voice. They sound identical.

am I the only one who got a Spider-man 3 vibe from this? Good cop - bad cop?

Joker: Are you seriously expecting a yes? The creepy floating, dark fog, glowing eyes, calling you a cup a god, wtf. As long as their is a way to stop your bullshit than fine. Just one more thing, I can always get anything or anyone I want free of charge now.

interesting how it says "end" instead of "fin"

When you realized that joker was the final boss this whole time

Kinda sad that after all the Phantom Thieves had done to prevent these people from stepping across the line is just ruined with words. I guess words really are sharp. :c

When the Joker of Persona 5 becomes the Joker of Persona 2.

Royal needs to extend on this ending

6:00 Hi aigis

So question for everyone If someone you knew for a long time turned out to be super evil and give you a deal like “You will become rich and famous” Would you accept that offer or go and defeat that someone

I'd rather kick Yusuke out of the car than get this ending

You know what, I like this ending.

This is how I always see Akira, looking dull and always smirking behind his head..

I like this ending. Happy endings is too much cliche in this day and age. So many JRPG's out there that always end with the main characters all alive and celebrating their victory in the ending. It's good to see when a game gives you a option to choose to side with the dark side for your own personal gain. And compared to games like Shin Megami Tensei series, this ending is actually pretty good as a Law ending.

This could also be interpreted as the evil ending. Ren gave into the corruption of Yaldaboath.

Why would anyone ever want to go down this ending other than just sheer curiosity?

I had a hunch rejecting the offer would net me the good ending, but I had a save file so I could afford to make the wrong choice. I kinda thought that accepting the offer and restoring the world would give us the chance to regroup, strategize, and succeed in taking down yaldaboath, but I guess I was wrong

All players who accepeted Igor's deal just wanted to finish the game sooner. It's impossible they would miss the point of the game after what happened in Mementos Edit: And I can relate to them cause it's so fucking hard

Joker gives Mass Effect 3 renegade shep a run for his\her money.

You set out to steal hearts... and lost your own.

I like this ending more than the True ending

>you've been betrayed by the society two times in a row >the game constantly makes choices for you, like accepting Makoto in your party who's been a huge cunt ever since. Even Ryuji says "well, you can't do anything now since she knows everything" in the what's up chat. Yusuke also agrees when you call her a b- "whitch". >basically, all your allies been talking only about the Phantom Thieves stuff throught the whole game, and nothing else, even among themselves. You don't even get the chance to know them better if you don't social link them. Even if you do - there is still no team spirit like in P3-4, you just bound together by fate, which was rigged by Jaldy from the very beginning. >after you make the "right" choice and defeat the final boss- once again, the game makes you accept Sae's deal and the fact that all the good deeds from the Phantom Thives would be written off as a police doing their job >the society doesn't change one bit even though the game says it does. Ichiko (somehow becoming the "worst girl" by the vocal majority) ends up being the only person who actually saves you from jail instead of the girl who had given the false charges against you, even though she is considred to be part of the "society" which is supposed to be changed by now and thus it should've been her who had spoken the truth without Ichiko finding her, yet she ends up doing nothing without the pressure >people actually believe it was all the police doing. Not before the credits, nor after them anything shows that people still believe in the Phantom Thives >This is literally THE ONLY time the game is actually giving you the oportunity to make a choice that will effect your fate >THE ONLY moment where you are given a chance to show your free will, instead of doing the "right thing" >"Y-you just don't get the point of the game((( I-it's about the free will((" Those who believe this is the "bad" ending are the only ones who don't get the idea about the "free will" itself, since they are being easily swayed by their own self-righteousness. Pathetic. Also, the game does a very poor job at explaining how the free will is achived and how you break the chains of whatever holds you back, given all the facts I've written above. it's rather sad we've come to this point. Those series used to have a far deeper and complex plot, yet made it meaningfull.

3:54 Too bad there was no way of showing to joker that this is a bad deal. What's that? PQ2 showed this? He witnesses this first hand and he chose this? Why!? Did they erase the Persona users' memories? they did? Ok. It looks like Joker made a good deal after all.

Joker just went full Light Yagami on this ending. xD

It’s the same as persona 4 where the bad ending credits is the same as the final dungeon theme and this applies even if u get the bad ending before the final dungeon for either game

This is probably the strangest Christmas ever.

I fail to see this as bad. You literally save the world from ruin. In what way are people being controlled? They are simply given what they want?

...I'll betcha this is what Royal's plot is based on. We *can't* beat Yaldabaoth on our first go around, so we have to go deeper. And yeah, that'll include pulling Akechi in onto our side.

In terms if heart break, this one isn't as bad as Persona 4's bad ending, and it STILL makes me cry. However, in the grand scheme of things, this ending fucks everyone over far more than P4's did if I remember correctly.

"We did it igor, we saved tokyo!"

If you ask me, it serves them right to become slaves, the public there are hypocrit like crazy, you be there a hero to a zero in less then 5 seconds.

So the Trickster can undone Igor's (and therefore, Philemon's) wishes. Well, there's no doubt he can trick and defy fate. PD: Lavenza's expression. I couldn't take this ending because of that. :'(

This scenario is a good prequel for Persona 6, Joker could be be the Main Villain in the next game and the new Protag will rescue his former team mates in the final boss

I don't understand this ending; what happened? so he accepted igors deal, so now humanity is being controlled by that God yes? Joker gets his fame and that, but what happened to the other Phantom Thieves? Why are people committing crimes? What's Joker doing after he accepted the deal with Igor? I need these answered! I have no clue what this ending means!

Keep in mind Killing God with Satan was the good ending

This is more of a Neutral ending than a Good or Bad ending

I wish I can choose this deal But I was playin on work night and this had tp finish the game as quickly lol. Theres no way I'm repeating those cutscenes the next day.

After that Ren probably has a palace

The more fucked up shit there is in the world the more I agree with this ending... Seriousy, how lowering suicide and crime rates be considerd bad?