Windows 11 24H2 Update Made My ARM Tablet Faster!
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Күн бұрынTEAM SGG PATREON / somegadgetguy Windows 11 24H2 is pushing out to preview channels, and I FINALLY got it running on my Robo & Kala! The big promise from Microsoft is improved X86 emulation support for X Elite chips, but does this mean we'll see performance gains on older ARM PCs? Let's find out!
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0:00 Micorsoft announces Windows 11 24H2
0:33 Installing on my Tablet
1:10 Geekbench scores
1:56 Browser Speedometer 2.1
2:46 Affinity Photo 2
4:19 Audacity Noise Reduction
5:10 Davinci Resolve
6:02 Control
7:54 Older ARM PCs got FASTER
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@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
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@SeanAdams001 Ай бұрын
Affinity 2.5 update just landed. It claims native support for ARM now. Maybe you can revisit your tests?
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Already installed. It's not doing any of this basic stuff any faster than the improvement to 24H2, but I haven't had time to dig much deeper for plugins and batch processing, etc.
@LaczPro Ай бұрын
Now that's progression. Love to see Windows on ARM taken seriously.
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
We've been due. It's been a LONG time coming.
@Mobile_Dom Ай бұрын
looks like Prism is more than just branding, its good to hear
@Mobile_Dom Ай бұрын
so after watching this i installed it on my 8cx Gen1 laptop, and even on this there is a noticeable difference. kudos microsoft and qualcomm
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Glad to hear that! What laptop do you use?
@Mobile_Dom Ай бұрын
@@SomeGadgetGuy I think in the US it was branded as the Lenovo flex 5G?
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Nice! I'm glad folks are giving it a spin. Been hearing a lot of positives for ARM users. Sadly, it seems some folks are seeing performance drops on Intel systems. It's weird to be on the better side of an update like this.
@bazanime Ай бұрын
I look forward to trying out the update on my R&K. Every little bit of extra performance and optimisation is always welcome. Thanks for the video.
@vancet9230 Ай бұрын
Surface Pro X here (OG with a measly 8GB of RAM). I loaded it soon as it was announced on Build and it's improved my opinion of my laptop immensely. Switching between Edge and Chrome tabs are much faster and the overall responsiveness is much improved. Love it.
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
HEY! That's great to hear! It's nice actually being on the receiving end of performance improvements for a change. ARM users have been due a little extra polish for a while now.
@gunayorbay Ай бұрын
I have the dev kit from 2023 and it's been doing much better with graphical applications since the update.
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
NICE! I really wanted to play with one of those!
@filecore Ай бұрын
I have one as well. Is there any video editor that can utilise the GPU?
@guymontag5 Ай бұрын
Oh sick, I've been looking forward to when this came to preview branches for my x13s. Sounds like it's about as described by MS though, 10-20% upgrade to emulation. Maybe I'll give Starcraft 2 a shot to see if it's gotten any better :)
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Lemme know how it goes for you!
@anakin.b Ай бұрын
I'm just waiting for ARM to be supported by Minecraft natively
@nicholasblackmore8344 Ай бұрын
Looking forward to replacing my Zenbook S with an arm based laptop soon!
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
We're getting some FUN options soon!
@inamulbhuyan Ай бұрын
wow i am also buy Snapdragon X Elite laptop
@BWOne Ай бұрын
Affinity Photo released 2.5, which I believe has ARM support now, so I wonder how it will work with that support on this? I was a big fan of Affinity, but after the sale to Canva and how Capture One killed the Express version, I decided to return to the Adobe LightRoom/Photoshop bundle. Still using Davinci Resolve Studio. I love that.
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Yup. Already run it. Almost no difference here from the 24H2 update in this really basic stuff, but I haven't had time to dig much deeper, check plugins, do batch processing, etc.
@AndrewMackoul Ай бұрын
I have a Galaxy Book Go with the 8cx Gen2 SoC. I also saw a decent performance increase on 24H2. One reason is because they removed the old ARMv8 instruction set and uses the more efficient/faster instruction set.
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Thanks for reporting in. I skipped the whole Gen 2 era. Glad to hear you're seeing some improvements too.
@Honeoneseven Ай бұрын
Does VirtualBox run on x86-64 on the 24H2 prism emulation?
@davidallen2211 Ай бұрын
I have this same tablet, love it as well.
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
It's such a great little slate. REALLY hoping they do an X Plus or X Elite model.
@davidallen2211 Ай бұрын
That would be awesome I have contacted them as I have a contact there and ask this question. Haven't heard anything yet
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Yeah they didnt get back to me either. If you hear anything...
@davidallen2211 Ай бұрын
I'll share.
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
My man!
@cerioo Ай бұрын
Waiting June to buy the new Surface Laptop 7 on Arm...can't wait!
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
I think that's what I'm going to do too. I'm silly over-buying the RAM, but it'll be my main "review" machine.
@realdrkim7531 Ай бұрын
glad to see mirosoft working to optimize WoA
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
It's getting better and better.
@christianr.5868 Ай бұрын
Can’t wait to see what the new surface pro can do with prism
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
It's looking like we're in for a good summer.
@BigEightiesNewWave Ай бұрын
This is cool, a guy with the old, janky WOA. Great way to compare.
@BigEightiesNewWave Ай бұрын
Waiting for Lunar Lake, personally, it has BIG changes baked in, like SEA change stuff, as well as Arrow Lake for desktop. Power Islands, PowerVia backside power, Ribbon FET, 1.8 nanometer process, Gen 2 ARC GPU Battlemage. Intel only one with LA EUV machines, and several of it's OWN FABS, so it can do wafers for others, too.
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Yup. Intel fans owe a HUGE thank you to Apple and ARM and Qualcomm. This is what actual competition should be doing.
@sperryjeff Ай бұрын
Really wanted to pick up a Robo & Kala.... love when you show it off. Think its still worth grabbing with the pending SD Elite products coming out?
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Depends on what you need it for. I LOVE mine. It really is a great media and productivity tablet with that kick stand and OLED. It's NOT good for things like video editing though. Considering the price of new X Elite gear, if you can get by with older core i3 - i5 performance, I still think it's a champ.
@sperryjeff Ай бұрын
Juan, i got one! You weren't kidding. This Robo & Kala is a great 2 in 1 setup. It's already become my favorite travel laptop. Windows on ARM isn't even a discussion, EVERYTHING i've wanted to install has worked. Looking forward to the ARM future. Thanks so much for praising this device and influencing my decision to get one. Love the channel and the content. Cheers!
@TawodiElohi Ай бұрын
Yeah. I am running my Lenovo X13s 5G and after the update it does feel slightly snappier after the update. I will try a couple of Steam games this weekend and see how it performs.
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Please report back! Hoping I can collect a little extra info to chat on the pod!
@TawodiElohi Ай бұрын
@@SomeGadgetGuy Most of the games take about 30 seconds to a minute to load. Games like TMNT: Shredder's Revenge runs fine on ULTRA settings. Temtem I average about 35 fps on Ultra. It some areas it may drop down to 9 fps. In combat it is a consistent 25 fps or higher. If I set to high or medium, I am getting about 50 fps. Whisker Squadron Survivor, I am getting about 15 fps consistently on max settings at 1920 x 1200. If I drop the quality down to medium, I am getting better results (closer to about 25 fps or higher.) Note that the laptop gets quite hot, so I usually run the slower paced games via Remote Play.
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Nice write up! Thanks. Would you say these are improvements or about the same?
@TawodiElohi Ай бұрын
@@SomeGadgetGuy I would say there are some improvements. Overall performance seems to be better.
@TawodiElohi Ай бұрын
@@SomeGadgetGuy I would say these are improvements. I really do not use the laptop for gaming. I mainly use it for studying, light coding, writing, social media, WSL, video chatting, web development, etc. I have seen overall performance improvements.
@yash1152 Ай бұрын
3:21 4:26 maybe it was the very very first run of the affinity application post update that was slower did you try to record time of subsequent starts of the app?
@nullgator8073 Ай бұрын
Curious to see how emulators perform on the upcoming hardware. Many emulators don't target WoA specifically so I'm curious if they'll recognize what's happening and run their own arm64 compatibility that's included for Linux or just run through prism
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
I've only dabbled with retroarch and 16bit gaming, which works great. I REALLY hope we see some support for more modern consoles. The compute power is there. And we can get to that power through Windows or the Linux subsystem. We just need to see devs embrace it.
@LivingLinux Ай бұрын
@@SomeGadgetGuy AetherSX2 had a WoA version. You can still get it with the Wayback Machine of the Internet Archive. And a measly SD 7c is already enough to play PS2 games at 60fps. It should also be possible to build ppsspp on WoA.
@chroesu Ай бұрын
For some weeks Microsoft is pushing update after update on my Surface Pro X SQ1. I'm excited for 24H2. Thanks for the news. Too bad the new Pro 11 isn't a refreshed Surface Pro X with the thin and fanless body. 😭
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Babysteps. I'm hoping a company like Robo & Kala will deliver an X Plus chip in the same fanless body with the same OLED screen. 🤞
@ymtzlgn Ай бұрын
I’m a Mac user but things on the Microsoft side seem really exciting. The Surface pro is still my dream form factor. Do you think it’s worth looking into?
@KR-xn8xr Ай бұрын
i had an ipad pro 12.9 m1 fully spceed out magic keyboard everything found an excellent deal on surface pro 9 8gb ram 5g took it and honestly have to say its soooo much freedom having a full desktop os with you at all times, i do coding robitics, abit of business stuff use it for VR to run my pc through when working on the go and the pen fro sketches logo designs document signing etc and make full use of the 5g i miss nothing from the ipad actually im about 50x more productive with this thing compared to the ipad and its not slowas alot of other reviewrs have said, just the android apps on the arm chip need some work so i think the next gen arm chips may be on point
@ymtzlgn Ай бұрын
@@KR-xn8xr good to know! Has it been reliable so far? I’ve heard there were some build issues with surfaces.
@faiga3544 Ай бұрын
No no apple is the best dont go ffor lower
@Myrillin Ай бұрын
@@KR-xn8xrMicrosoft announced recently they will be ending support for the Android subsystem on Windows. :/
@KR-xn8xr Ай бұрын
@@ymtzlgn Yep 100% reliable but as always mac osx will feel more polished, but no lag Shut Downs and getting stuck etc at all , but reliability 100% good and the functionality is worth it. i have a macbook pro 16 inch as well at the office, but this is the best portable device, so far that give me all in one experience it gotten alot better and the surface is by the best form factor i have ever used. i have tried alot of dveices tab s9 ultra, ipad pro the 360 laptops etc this pro 9 with arm is by far the best and you can charge it with a power bank as well 20 000 mah give you atlest another 5-7 hours of juice with 5g useage
@AmitabhRanjan1 Ай бұрын
Could you please post the link to download the arm version of 24H2 iso ? I can only get the x64 links
@davidburns8113 Ай бұрын
I'm legit hoping I get the Thinkpad when they upgrade my machine this year I would like amoight weight machine so bad
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
I'm so ready.
@TJ_Ov13 Ай бұрын
I had a Samsung notebook from 2011 which I was able to reboot and use in 2023 for a second with madden 24 and command and conquer from steam but I couldn’t find anyone who still made the charger and the software stopped connecting to WiFi 8:35
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Ugh that's lame. Proprietary chargers suck. Even old hardware can still be used for more if we could keep it running and supported.
@yash1152 Ай бұрын
what about linux on arm? how dows that operate?
@BigEightiesNewWave Ай бұрын
In due time, will be fun to see X Elite compared, and Elite compared to Lunar 💪Lake : )
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Intel and AMD needed a bit of a wake up call. Intel is making some smart moves. AMD is working with ARM. Mediatek is working with NVIDIA. This whole market is ready for a change.
@HiMrDimka Ай бұрын
Its pretty cool that even old hardware get some boots in performance. Maybe just maybe new windows pc on arm this time really make it. would be nice get some new snapdragon laptop and install there Linux there. Battery life promising. Amd and intel have some work now too
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
You good with Debian? 😊 www.qualcomm.com/developer/blog/2024/05/upstreaming-linux-kernel-support-for-the-snapdragon-x-elite
@Honeoneseven Ай бұрын
Does VirtualBox run on x86-64 on the 24H2 prism emulation?
@KR-xn8xr Ай бұрын
hey bro iv got a surface pro 9 arm im trying to install this build but for some reason when i go to update says upto date when i go to inside preview build im on release but it says there is newer build but nothing in windows update any advice on this thanks man
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
MS updates are really twitchy. All I can say is update everything you can, also in the app store, and give it a reboot again to get it downloading. It was a mess for me too.
@KR-xn8xr Ай бұрын
@@SomeGadgetGuy thanks bro gave it a try so far had to move to dev channels to get it but i noticed wsa no longer works have you played aroudn with wsa by any chance
@user-kf8kw9cg3f Ай бұрын
I want to see how usable a galaxy book go would be with the better x86 emulation. I had to return it because it was unusable for python through the available 32 bit emulation at the time. I wonder if 8gb ram would be much more usable for browsing instead of 4 or if the CPU will babe been the bottleneck initially.
@7techno77 Ай бұрын
I wonder how long for more options, the only tablet with the new chip is Surface Pro and you're looking at at least 1100-1200 for base with keyboard.
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
AMD is working with ARM, and MediaTek is working with Nvidia. I HAVE to believe we'll see more competition early 2025.
@Medelfatih11 Ай бұрын
Can we see robo &kala powered by x elite soon ,? ... if this happens , you recommend us to buy surface laptop or x elite robo&kala?
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
I REALLY hope this team is working on one. I love the R&K hardware.
@netnomad47 Ай бұрын
I sent them an email a while back and they told me they were already working on the next Robo and Kala. They never told me what chip they were using but one can assume they're going for X elite right?
@Medelfatih11 Ай бұрын
@@netnomad47 nice news ... I hope so
@LoorHenz 25 күн бұрын
Are kernel anti-cheat games supported now? Like League of legends, valorant, fortnite... Please im trying to know this before ordering snapdragon x elite laptop...
@mingkang9356 Ай бұрын
I didn't get 24H2 on my 8cx Gen 2 Galaxy Book Go 5G, I didn't know why, however when I choose Dev Channel i could get 24H2, I wonder if prism comes to Dev Channel as well?
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
I would assume so?
@arnoldbeckenbauer326 Ай бұрын
@somegadgetguy What about Vulkan drivers?
@andreas-franke Ай бұрын
Affinity 2.5 should be running native on ARM PC now. Because I don't have such a device personally, I don't know what the boost would be of course.
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
I'm running it now. There's no change to the basic stuff I show here over 24H2, but I haven't dug deeper into plugins, batch processing, etc.
@sebastianserwin3416 Ай бұрын
X13s owner here. All necessary soft in native ARM version. WSL2 Linux is super fast. Python faster than on MacBook M1. Tried to install Release Preview but system restored 23H2. I have to try again
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
It happened to me a couple times. And no joke, WSL is SUCH a perk right now. Linux apps run so well.
@Honeoneseven Ай бұрын
Does VirtualBox run on x86-64 on the 24H2 prism emulation?
@oxfordbambooshootify Ай бұрын
Do the new qualcomm chips support thunderbolt 4?
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
As far as I know, none are listing TB4 support. I see USB4/TB3 listed. Technically that SHOULD mean eGPU hardware compatibility, but I wouldn't count on that soon after launch.
@BurntOrangeHorn78 Ай бұрын
So were the Elite systems running this updated Windowless 11 already?
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Nope. Not the ones I demoed.
@BSingh-on4qr Ай бұрын
I wonder if this can help UTM for Mac
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
I honestly dont know. I haven't messed with UTM...
@BigEightiesNewWave Ай бұрын
What about battery life now? Vs "then"?
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Haven't used it enough to comment on. My first charge was benchmarking, and not really how I use the machine. So far, it seems about the same?
@MrPotato-hd8bh Ай бұрын
bro, can you do the same test when the X Elite laptop comes
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
You know I will!
@BrianGlaze Ай бұрын
ARM is on the way
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
It took WAY longer than I wanted, but we getting there!
@gregoryaul2005 Ай бұрын
I have a pro x sq1👍
@ZeDarkLord Ай бұрын
I would really like if this, or some variation of this device is available in India. It'd make for such a good device, especially for students.
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
It's such a good form factor. It's sad there aren't a few more options like it.
@nanli7708 Ай бұрын
Do you know will Robo&Kala release new X elite Windows Tablet?
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
I don't but I hope they do!
@Unan1mouz Ай бұрын
Juan... What's the advantage of having Windows on ARM? Should we really consider this processor?
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Absolutely. It won't make a huge difference if you work mostly from a desktop, and energy infrastructure and costs aren't a concern for you, but just like Apple, when you want to go mobile, you need a better performance per watt. Right now, we're matching or beating the performance of mobile X86 chips while using less power. That's a solid improvement for portable computers.
@Unan1mouz Ай бұрын
@@SomeGadgetGuy That sounds awesome! So I guess we're heading towards where Apple is going right? Since they're already using the M chips for both their laptops and tablets.
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
That's what we've been wanting for a while now. I've been trying to get folks to use ARM for consumer work for YEARS now. Before Apple did M series. It's worked really well for low cost chromebooks, and even phones can rival the performance of mid-spec laptops now. We're convincing consumers to buy multiple computers they don't really need.
@ChrisHaupt Ай бұрын
Nice, Control for the PS1 era 😆
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Lil bit right! I still dont know of any 11th or 12th gen intel part that would have run it better. AMD beats it, but not at the same power/battery use.
@shiro214okane 26 күн бұрын
wish Microsoft focus on this instead of stupid features that we don't really need and adding ads, subscription and "AI" that isn't really AI. who knows they might even revive windows phone.
@AllDay3004 Ай бұрын
I wonder if this update is on the original Microsoft Surface. I think I still got one. Maybe I need to load it up 🤔
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
The OG Surface Pro or those RT models? I dont think any made it to Windows 10?
@AllDay3004 Ай бұрын
@@SomeGadgetGuy dang. Sucks because at the time I really thought Microsoft was going to go all in on ARM based processors. It's nice to see that they may go all in with these Snapdragon Elite chips. In hindsight, they probably should've did this a long time ago 😂
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
I mean the first Surface was 12 years ago. Even the Intel Surface Pro isn't officially supported for Windows 11.
@AllDay3004 Ай бұрын
@@SomeGadgetGuy I forgot it's been that long since the first one came out. Some of the videos of people using the device now show it still runs kinda smooth for its age. There's just no more support for the OS, store and the apps
@nnbi Ай бұрын
Cant wait to ditch x86
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
We've been due a good mobile alternative.
@AgentZeroNine1 Ай бұрын
Now how do i install Linux on it to get away from Copilot?
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
You good with Debian? www.qualcomm.com/developer/blog/2024/05/upstreaming-linux-kernel-support-for-the-snapdragon-x-elite
@LivingLinux Ай бұрын
@@SomeGadgetGuy With practically all ARM devices, you need more than just kernel support. Usually there is no UEFI support, and that probably means you have to use dtb files to boot it. But the good news is that Qualcomm partnered with Linaro, and they showed Debian on of the demo devices. But that probably still doesn't mean that you can easily boot Linux on of the other X Elite devices.
@desenhosjeffersonlim Ай бұрын
I’m really thinking about to sell my m1 iPad Pro and get one of those new Surface Pro. Seems like is a better time to came back to windows, apple is destroying every time more the iPad Pro software, that right now isn’t any Pro!!!
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
It's a shame. I really do want to see a tablet running proper Mac OS. Until then, the alternatives are Windows and Chrome. Hopefully we get better linux support for ARM quickly.
@Grave79 Ай бұрын
I love your passion for Windows on ARM! I have an old Surface Pro X that I'm considering trading in for the new X Elite version. Do you think 32GB RAM is beneficial for Windows on ARM? I'm just not feeling that Silver colorway after rocking the SPX :) I know it's such a superficial thing, but I thought I'd ask anyway
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
I've been PREACHING for ARM computing for years now. I really believe we could have made this transition for consumers five or six years ago if we'd had better developer support. As for RAM, it really depends on your workload. The thing with these new "AI" PCs, if you think you'd maybe be interested in some of the NPU capabilities, I would try to step up to more RAM. AI models EAT RAM. 16GB is solid for a general purpose Windows machine. With unified memory going to the CPU and the GPU AND the NPU, 32GB gives you a little more breathing room.
@Grave79 Ай бұрын
@@SomeGadgetGuy My brain must be tired as I completely overlooked shared memory. Hmm, I don't think I'll do anything NPU and I don't think my heaviest applications have Windows on ARM support (3D printing slicers), so I think 16GB should be fine for my use case with X Elite. Thanks for the help!
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
😎👍
@netnomad47 Ай бұрын
Time to pull out my dusty Robo and Kala and use it again 😂
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Awwww it's such a good tablet, don't let it get dusty!
@MrBaskins2010 Ай бұрын
thank you for the real world tests. synthetic tests dont mean anything
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
I've been REALLY frustrated by phone reviewers just reading off geekbench scores. They tell you NOTHING about actual app performance. They only tell you how well they can run the benchmark.
@bobnelsonfr Ай бұрын
Elite X nuc with dual nvme, PLEASE!
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
I'm eyeing that dev kit too... I need more mini PCs in my life LOL.
@ALionlikeMane Ай бұрын
People have been sleeping on ARM
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
I've been trying to tell folks for a while now...
@Cleisthenes607 Ай бұрын
Satya Pajeet: We will spy on you more efficiently;
@liquinvest4667 Ай бұрын
affinity had the 2.5 update today, now it's ARM native ;-)
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Already running it.
@liquinvest4667 Ай бұрын
@@SomeGadgetGuy hope it running well. My next surface should be an ARM.
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
It is! I'm not noticing any structure or speed improvements on the basic stuff I show here, but I haven't had time to dig deeper on plugins or editing yet.
@MajinErick 2 күн бұрын
24H2 is working over Rust now., so that's a 30 year rewrite of code.
@SomeGadgetGuy 2 күн бұрын
That's right! I forgot MS was pushing that with 24H2.
@davidburns8113 Ай бұрын
But did it make your enemies fear you and women want you? Thought not.
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Yeah. Well. You're a stinky doodoo head! GOTEM!
@sumechoo Ай бұрын
Just updated my surface "pro" 9 to this 24h2 preview and see literally no performance boost in all the scenarious. I've picked a few games (not because of I consider it as a gaming device, no, but because it is a really good measure for performance per watt). Noita - bad as it was, Sons of the forest - awful as it was, Valheim - won't load after main menu but previously was fine, necrodancer - awful lags in such a simple game. The same again - or this new fancy emulator wasn't released yet or it has no impact on SQ3(8cx gen 3). Numbers in geekbench is quite impressive but all that stuff drains the same 20w+ from a battery and that is a result so close to intel's 11 gen cpus that it's not funny anymore. Would really love to see you comparing your tablet to something amd based. I have 7535u and it crushes the sq3 in all scenarious. (Keeping it on battery saver power plan that makes it consume the same 20-25 watts, but I have more control and compatibility. Probably this new x elite won't be a better deal, but we'll see I guess
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
We'll see. AMD has been doing good work, and I love my 8945HS mini PC, but even they aren't matching what we've seen from X Elite so far. I'm confident 780M will probably eke out wins against Adreno for gamers, but at higher power draw. It's why Qualcomm has been careful not to call this first gen of X Elite a "gamer" solution.
@sumechoo Ай бұрын
@@SomeGadgetGuy I really hope you're right, but I saw mentions that elite's adreno will be the same architecture (the 6xx one) and it have good chances to be true. Waiting for a review then :)
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Right. Which means we shouldn't expect it to "win" at gaming. It should be better than a steam deck though. So for folks who NEED to carry a laptop for work, they might not WANT to carry both a laptop and a console, we're still in pretty good shape for some moderate gaming on the go. I can't get this kind of performance on any Intel parts on battery, and if my AMD laptop has a discrete GPU, I probably need to plug that in too. It's all about the right tool for the right job.
@Honeoneseven Ай бұрын
Does VirtualBox run on x86-64 on the 24H2 prism emulation?
@Vicorcivius Ай бұрын
At this point we should call this operating system Spyware/Windows, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Spyware plus Windows.
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
Yeah. Recall isn't great. I have to believe that will be easy to disable on Windows Pro devices, but I also need to see this hardware gain more traction so I can get better Linux support. We already have a build of debian from Qualcomm...
@BIG1TOWER Ай бұрын
Yeah windows on arm have been pretty much hot garbage for me. I have moved on to the m chips.
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
I'm glad I waited. The Macbooks were tempting, but I'd rather get on with X Elite, and hopefully throw linux on it soon.
@ArthropodSpidey Ай бұрын
Recall will make your lack of privacy faster too
@SomeGadgetGuy Ай бұрын
It's a stupid feature to bake into an OS like this, but it's dumb to think it won't be easily disabled, especially on Windows Pro machines. We want this hardware to succeed so we can see it in other devices like Steam Deck clones and Linux PCs. Qualcomm already delivered an experimental build of Debian www.qualcomm.com/developer/blog/2024/05/upstreaming-linux-kernel-support-for-the-snapdragon-x-elite
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