I bought quite expensive sparkling wines to beat a cheap champagne. Franciacorta, Prosecco, Cremant, American sparkling wine, etc…. Which wine would win? -Wineking's instagram: jay.wineking #wineking #와인킹 #WineOlympics
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@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear that the Champagne did not let France down... Great tasting!
@Lozo392 жыл бұрын
Spoiler !
@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine2 жыл бұрын
@@Lozo39
@igorg38602 жыл бұрын
Such incredible comradery! Maybe they can taste your new Pinot Noir in the next Olympics 😉 Also, I tried the Franciacorta this summer for 35 bux and it was very pleasant but not as good as a Ferrari 🥂
@sebastianpeheim88512 жыл бұрын
wusste nicht, dass du auch wineking schaust! bin über wineking auf deinen Kanal gestossen, macht immer wieder Spaß dir zuzusehen und hören :)
@jicklesjingles81342 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianpeheim8851 da wine king der größte KZfaq Kanal ist, ist die Wahrscheinlichkeit recht groß 😜
@matthewdonet2 жыл бұрын
An exclusively South African blind wine tasting would be incredible. Especially considering Peter's background
@laskolaq83842 жыл бұрын
Hi from Brescia, nearly Franciacorta, Jay. Unfortunately, you picked Ca' Del Bosco and that's too unkindly famous for kids to drink in discos and clubs to prove they are rich, like belvedere.
@cassa12972 жыл бұрын
I would say that the italian answer to french champagne (even though champagne is king), is TrentoDOC, Ferrari is a great producer which is the pinnacle of italian bubbles. Their riserva del fondatore is on par quality wise with some of the great champagnes
@hanneporse10762 жыл бұрын
Have tried the Ferrari it is great o n e of the best non Champagne
@robdielemans91892 жыл бұрын
Good video. I agree with Peter I have yet to find a Franciacorta that is on the same level as Champagne. I have had Cava's, especially pet-nat that were very tasty. Also as Peter said it is difficult to find awful Champagne. My tip is to go to Champagne and visit rather flat wineries like in Bassuet , due to climate change there the Chardonnay doesn't pick up too much sun, therefore they can develop longer on the branch, which makes for a better champagne.
@barmalini2 жыл бұрын
Peter, you were the one who taught me to love Champagne. You were my inspiring voice on the road that I've always turned to when in doubt, thank you, Peter. And after I've spent so many hundreds of euros on Champagne, and so many attempts to understand it, I'm happy that no one comes even close to my beloved wine. This Nicolas Feuillatte is not even an expensive or very fine wine. By the french standards that is, but no one comes close to it. Viva la France! Merci beaucoup, Peter!
@mymic2082 жыл бұрын
I had a Nicolas Feuillatte a few days ago. I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would. There are other champagnes I'd rather drink, and even other sparkling wines at that price point (I'm a big fan of Ghram beck), but at £19 a bottle it was excellent value for money.
@crazyoncoffee2 жыл бұрын
You’re lucky to live in the UK. By sheer distance, the lower end champagnes are cheaper because it costs less to ship and distribute them when you’re closer. The Nicolas feuillate costs £26.50 ($35) minimum in California. If i could get it for £19 it would taste even better…! The same thing works in reverse; top Napa valley wines that would sell for $100+ in the UK can be found for around $67 in the Bay Area, because where I live I am only 30 mins drive from Napa valley so shipping and distribution costs are way lower.
@irishg3572 жыл бұрын
It's $39.99 here in Pennsylvania, it's still the cheapest 750ml from Champagne you can find on the shelves here. Annnd, it's worth it, Champagne is Champagne, always and forever. Looking forward to trying out their Sakura Rosé next.
@veroman0072 жыл бұрын
wonderful exposition on the differences between champagne and sparklers. a serious wine... so well put. you never want to gulp real champagne but prosecco etc yep.
@johnd0e252 жыл бұрын
I'm very surprised by the Crémant prices, here in France you generally see crémant around 10€, and for that it's a good QPR imho. I was in the Jura this summer and I bought six bottles at 9€ each at a domain, I definitely did not expect that $40 price tag (it was not from Tissot though).
@veroman0072 жыл бұрын
we tax the shit outa those wines
@barmalini2 жыл бұрын
But it's not fair to compare the prices in France and overseas directly. The cheapest but still very good Champagne at Carrefour will cost you around 12 or 13 euros, so your Crémant wasn't particularly cheap from that point of view.
@nomadkcfan44032 жыл бұрын
Haha! Fun as always! And I love Peter's outrage about wine number 6 :)
@brettcasale2 жыл бұрын
I came up with a good idea, take a wine cellar quiz or one of those websites that asks you questions about what types of things you like, like if you like coffee or dark chocolate or if you like citrus fruit, and then they send you wine based on how you answer. It's supposed to be for people who want to get into wine and by answering the questions they determine what they think you will like and send it to you. Let's see how accurate they are!
@alhOOO2O2 жыл бұрын
You can tell the exact moment in this video when Peter gets drunk 🤣
@jarlthiesgaard26792 жыл бұрын
Remember that Prosecco sweetness scale is Brut (most dry) to Demi Sec (most sweet). BUT "Dry" is the second sweetest category from 17-32 g/L ... Brut, Extra Dry, Dry, Demi-Sec. I like your channel very much! Maybe a Trentodoc would be more a style for Peter, for a slightly higher acidity than Franciacorta?
@AnimeReference2 жыл бұрын
I heard the way it works is that the opposite of dry is bad and there is no bad wine.
@jarlthiesgaard26792 жыл бұрын
@@AnimeReference What do you mean?
@vitobowen87412 жыл бұрын
Yeah you would need to get an Extra Brut Cartizze to make the comparison work. Or even an Ex Brut/ Brut Prosecco from a select Rive vineyard. I do agree with Jay’s call of artificial peach. I found the Villa Sandi Cartizze to smell like Lipton’s Peach Ice Tea. Great to see Bisol and Ca’ Del Bosco called out as they really flush the market!
@jarlthiesgaard26792 жыл бұрын
@@vitobowen8741 I agree. Might even skip the Prosecco for this round (keep it in the traditional method realm) and maybe later do a full on tank method competition from around the world. :-)
@sommeliermicheleorbolato98962 жыл бұрын
Great tasting! Thanks, Peter for your wise gems! Definitely, I was expecting more from Ca Del Bosco Franciacorta... Good Champagnes always deliver!
@PrinZsuN12 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay and Peter for the awesome video once again
@TREK5900cheats2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see you guys do a Riesling only tasting at some point. Considering how many countries produce it at a high quality
@simonetonelli73722 жыл бұрын
Hi guys! I’m from Franciacorta and I agree with your opinion on that bottle. Ca’ del Bosco is one of the “strongest” Franciacorta wine cellars and that bottle, trust me, is like a really base Franciacorta, although you pay it too much. So please come to Franciacorta to change your mind! ;)
@fp4640 Жыл бұрын
Italian producer here (not sparkling wine producer tho): Bisol isn't representative of the (not that high) quality of Prosecco. Same goes with Ca del Bosco. The easiest brands to find on a shelf are not always of the highest quality.
@user-xw1kj9bx3l2 жыл бұрын
오늘영상은 화질이 일정하지 않네요. 그래도 항상 재미있게 보고 있습니다!!
@gondra64172 жыл бұрын
스파클링 와인이 눈부셔서 초점이 자꾸 나가나봐요
@erethjallsen88192 жыл бұрын
Very informative video, I always look forward to Monday’s each week due to your videos
@NL900002 жыл бұрын
Great video! I hate it when they put crap like "exclusive" or other marketing crap on the bottle. It makes me not want to buy the wine. So most of the times I just pick up something else instead.
@giuliettcamel2 жыл бұрын
Bring in a Trento doc for next flight! I believe Ferrari perle would outplay many of those you tasted today! Hail Italy's bubbles!!!
@HoNow222 Жыл бұрын
Ferrari to me is so much more boring than Valdobbiadene
@drmatthewhorkey2 жыл бұрын
It looks like Peter was ok with that tasting... hahahah I agree with him on being disappointed with Franciacorta often!
@in_cross_2 жыл бұрын
와인킹님 영상 매번 잘 보고 있습니다 ㅎㅎㅎ 영상 도중에 초점이 계속 나가는데 뒤에 햇님에 얼굴인식이 되서 그런가봐요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 초점 고정하고 찍는것도 방법일것 같습니다
@MrPianoizo2 жыл бұрын
I paid this BBF from Tissot around 20€ in France and it was one of my favourite sparkling wines drank last year. Absolutely above most champagnes you can find in the market. You probably did not like it because it is a natural wine, but that is a pity... You should retaste it and get rid of these horrible flutes 😂
@user-ot2bq7xs8f2 жыл бұрын
피터옹이 화이트나 스파클링 좋아하시는 것은 알았지만, 시음하시면서 과음하셔서 눈이 풀린 것은 이번 영상이 처음인 것 같기도 하네요...ㅎㅎㅎ 스파클링은 정말 사랑입니다. 샴페인은 정말 다른 스파클링과 뭔가 차별화된 느낌이 있습니다. 기포도 더 부드럽고(크리미) 엔트리급이어도 샴페인을 왜 샴페인이라 부르는지 이해가 갑니다. 물론 전 스푸만테나 까바, 프로세꼬, 크레망도 좋아합니다. 어쩌겠어요... 뽀글이는 사랑인데요...ㅎㅎㅎ
@lazy_n2 жыл бұрын
오늘 영상 중간에 살짝 초점이 나간게 약간 와인먹고 졸려진 저의 초점같군여ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 11:15 피터옹 이럴때 약간 취향저격ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋsnl을 볼 필요가 없음ㅋㅋㅋ
@someoneelse22622 жыл бұрын
Jay, in French you are supposed to pronounce the t at the end of "brut". No logic to it. Just the way it is. You work very hard on creating the proper sounds and speaking correctly so I figured I'd let you know...Plus, it's in your field, so...
@user-lq2hc3uh5k2 жыл бұрын
아직 화이트와인과 샴페인에는 도전을 하지 못하고 있는데 이영상을 보니 맛볼 기회가 조만간 생길것 같네요ㅎㅎ 좋은 영상감사합니다
@NB-sl2xs2 жыл бұрын
I love all of the sparkling wines from Schramsberg.
@sanharowlee92412 жыл бұрын
오늘처럼 피터님이 취하신서 처음 보는 것 같아요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@kdyb99882 жыл бұрын
그러게요 ㅋㅋㅋ 영상 후반으로 갈수록 눈 깜빡이는 속도가 느려져요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@Andrea82bs2 жыл бұрын
In Italy we say, Franciacorta is a great wine, champenoise method, but prosecco is just a soda, white wine with CO2 added :-D
@dantheman8279 Жыл бұрын
Pretty entertaining blind tasting! Had me laughing too, having a sense of humor and also a little educational at the same time made this a fun clip.
@Cheezybeatz2 жыл бұрын
Please get some English Sparkling wine on here, there's some great new wineries popping up
@barneygreen99742 жыл бұрын
It would be great if you could test an English Sparkling wine in round 2. We have some good stuff here - Nyetimber, Squerryes, Ridgeview, Camel Valley, Denbies just to name a few. Might be difficult to find in Cali though
@melomong12 жыл бұрын
저는 쓴 걸 너무 싫어해서 술은 거의 마시지 않지만 와인킹님 영상은 너무 재밌어서 와인들이 항상 맛이 없을 지언정 맛있어보입니다. 항상 잘 보고 갑니다!
@solomonmengeu10032 жыл бұрын
An interesting tasting of sparkling wine, I was surprised that the Schramsberg Blanc de Blancs did so well. Peter, you are not alone in believing that Franciacorta sparkling wines don't deliver on their promises and prices. I have found that Trentodoc Metodo Classico wines are much higher quality and have a much better QPR, particularly Ferrari's. If it's good enough to be used for F1 celebrations, it should fine for the rest of us. I personally drink Cava Reserva, Cremants, and Winzersekt Traditionelle Flaschengarung and MCC if I can find them.
@kimkun14472 жыл бұрын
와인 한번도 안마셔봤는데 영상보고있으니까 한번 사서 마셔보고싶어 지네요 ^^
@TheSommNextDoor2 жыл бұрын
Jay your flutes are so TALL... Haha it's a vintage wine. "Who gives a Shit. Tell someone who cares." I aspire to be like Peter. So much BS on labels
@owenismo Жыл бұрын
New subscriber here, really enjoy Jay and Peter's video. The chemistry between you two is out of the world. Been learning so much about wine from you guys and it reignited my passion. Love Peter's amazing humor and Jay's trickery 😂
@greatpark862 жыл бұрын
샴폐인은 뭔가 다가 가기가 어려운 느낌인데 잘 풀어주셨네요 ㅎㅎ 스파클링 와인에도 첨가물을 많이 넣는걸로 아는데 와인업계의 첨가물에 대한 와인킹님의 의견이 궁금합니다..!
@prodoman39452 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys
@m.m.40852 жыл бұрын
From my Point of view he does not het Franciacorta. For Italians it isthe best expression of sparkling I find it sometimes better than Champagne
@user-yn9bp1wy7i2 жыл бұрын
역시 샴페인은 샴페인이네요! 샴페인을 무척 좋아하셔서 그런지 피터 스승님은 엄청 취하셨네요ㅋㅋㅋ
@charlestex8222 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a Brazilian sparkling wine tasting! They’re getting good scores around the world. Look for Casa Valduga, Cave Geisse and Garibaldi wineries. Cheers
@user-jp8no4nv5o2 жыл бұрын
상큼한와인킹과피터선생님
@JonasK-vk3nu2 жыл бұрын
I live close to the boarder to france in the alsace and I often buy Nicolas Feuilatte Champagne for only 16€
Just one technique thing, if you pour, try tilting the glass. it reduces the agitation of the wine!
@jamesboddington95657 ай бұрын
Would have loved to seen the Australian sparkling Arras Elite or Vintage in that tasting. I drink it in preference large house NV Champagne. It has the texture and concentration of a far more expensive Champagne
@nalljin2 жыл бұрын
오늘도 좋은영상 감사합니다.
@megatrendy12 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay! This was a really great tasting! Congrats!
@vitorsilvadossantos93422 жыл бұрын
You have to add to your tournament a Poll-Fabaire Crémant from Luxemburg. Small country, big quality. Keep doing those nice videos 🍾🍾🍾
@besting__2 жыл бұрын
스파클링 와인이라서인지 피터 선생님이 한껏 기분 좋은신 게 느껴지네요ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 스파클링에서도 다양한 와인을 만날 수 있어서 좋았습니다 감사합니다!!
@tucopacifico2 жыл бұрын
Love to see a Cava tasting, and also Spanish whites like Ruedas included in a white wine tasting
@kasperbaag10032 жыл бұрын
Hey, fun video as usually. :) I wonder why you have chosen those type of glasses?
@larsbenge56422 жыл бұрын
Watch this video from 2018, and you’ll understand: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jMl6jctjut3SpJ8.html
@kasperbaag10032 жыл бұрын
So I watched it. So for my understanding it is only the visual part that do that they use those glasses. But from a wine perspective I would like to know why?
@numanuma202 жыл бұрын
Peter, I’ll take all the Franciacorta you don’t want.
@andybetti20792 жыл бұрын
i'm from italy and i've never believed in franciacorta, like you said it does't delivers. Try some Trento next fight, way better quality for the money!
@HoNow222 Жыл бұрын
As an italian too I say it's very good but the cost is not worth it, probably due to too much hype about the brand itself.
@kiseokoh60682 жыл бұрын
Graphite는 탄소를 말하는거라 광물은 약간 좀 애매하겠는데요ㅋㅋ 그렇지만 항상 잘 보고있습니다
@stormiewutzke41902 жыл бұрын
Hugs and kisses
@SiminEleven2 жыл бұрын
결론 = 샴페인은 저가라도 카르티제와 프란치아코르타보단 낫다.
@saseonglee13092 жыл бұрын
정말 궁금했던건데 정말 감사합니다!~!^^
@garrettingle6728 Жыл бұрын
“It is a vintage California champagne!” “Who gives a shit. Tell someone who cares” 6:59
@AShiga2 жыл бұрын
I hope you bring in Brazilian sparkling for round 2, Cave Geisse or Casa Valduga should match NV Champagne
@capitaniodino49782 жыл бұрын
You have to try Bellavista!! I'm interested to understand your opinion!
@odilelake2 жыл бұрын
니콜라 푸이야트 리저브 한국에선 6만원 내외인데 저렴한~으로 들어가나요 ㅋㅋ 샤를 끄레망 같은 거랑 비교했으면 좀 더 와닿았겠어요
@Andrea82bs2 жыл бұрын
Please try Cà del Bosco Annamaria Clementi, you'll change your idea about Franciacorta ;-)
@user-zs2zx6kg9g2 жыл бұрын
피터선생님이 취하신건 오랜만이네요~
@darrenching23362 жыл бұрын
Haha shud hav get Peter some sparkling fr Trento doc
@paulumz Жыл бұрын
My favorite dialogue: Jae: "It's a VINTAGE Californian sparkling wine" Peter: "Who gives a shit? Tell someone who cares"
@angmoomoo2 жыл бұрын
브레드 앤 버터 샤르도네 시음평도 궁금해요! ㅎㅎ 사람들 호불호가 심하게 갈려서 전문가가 마시기엔 어떤느낌일지 궁금합니다
@user-mx1bl6kw6f2 жыл бұрын
카메라가 초점을 자꾸 어긋나게 맞추나보네요. 밝아졌다가 흐려졌다가 하네요.
@lynxloco2 жыл бұрын
So what was the price of the champagne? I don't think it was discussed
@sonarsphere2 жыл бұрын
he did name them except for the first one. The range is between 27 and 40 bucks.
@aggr0pr4wn342 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this today, thanks! How was Peter's head the morning after?
@bubbathemaster2 жыл бұрын
Wonder what they do with the bottles after that. You can't keep an open bottle of sparkling. Probably get shitfaced :D
@veroman0072 жыл бұрын
@@bubbathemaster actually the next day it is still a very good flat wine in many cases... keep it cold.
@danf3212 жыл бұрын
I find it difficult to find domestic bubbly with the bread/yeast flavors I find in many French bubbly. I find many Cavas taste like generic bubbly. Prosecco is fine but doesn’t have a refined taste, which may be because of the slight sweetness and they remind me of Asti Spumante.
@elliedo012 жыл бұрын
Iron horse makes excellent sparklers. If that’s too expensive, you can try Gruet, which is a great QPR.
@arjandegraaff2 жыл бұрын
How much was the champagne? You did not mention in the video.
@johnd0e252 жыл бұрын
It's 27€ in France so I assume around 40-45 dollars?
@dontyoudareidiot2 жыл бұрын
캘리포니아 전역에 제이의 움직임이 공유되고 있나봐요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@Boss90x2 жыл бұрын
You should do a brunello di montalcino tasting as a treat for peter!
@sogeking4212 жыл бұрын
Nicolas Feuillatte is a popular champagne in France low price low quality you can find everywhere in supermarket for christmas, new year's eve... it s like J&B and Label 5 for Whisky...
@user-pk6rn7rh1x2 жыл бұрын
나른한 오후에 보는 와인킹ㅎㅎ
@nathanhill99382 жыл бұрын
Just an idea, how about select 5 bottles of wine. Then pour into glasses, mix up the order then match the wine to the bottle labels.
@TheWinezen2 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be too big of a challenge to folks who know varietal chracteristics but if they were all from the same region that used the same grape type then it could be fun.
@khk97902 жыл бұрын
예전 영상에서는 푸이야트는 사지마라고 한 것이 기억나는데 그래도 샴페인인가 보내요.
@jameskim172 жыл бұрын
One of my friend who works in the winery in Franciacorta works really hard. Every time I talk to him, I can feel his serious passion about the vines and wine making. In the region, there are also very serious people who care for the vines 365 days. And there are very hard working (also very talented) people who works for the winery. I know it's your channel, you can say whatever you want. But plese do not underestimate all Franciacorta with your easy words.
@antares27672 жыл бұрын
Please do family estate grown wines(wente, etc)
@user-um2mj2ks1r2 жыл бұрын
영상 중간에 계속 화면이 흐려저요..ㅠㅠㅠ
@tipitii73882 жыл бұрын
Would be nice if u tried some english sparkling wines!
@TheWinezen2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't make it pass the qualifying round.
@tipitii73882 жыл бұрын
@@TheWinezen see the newest video..
@andrzejprzybylski67702 жыл бұрын
Me trying to introduce my friends to wine tasting 6:58
@bysmiley55072 жыл бұрын
Nice tasting, try cap classique from SA
@user-vg8pw9tt9x2 жыл бұрын
4번와인 설명에 오타가 있네요
@jicklesjingles81342 жыл бұрын
I wonder if I will ever find access to sparkling wine. From my todays perspective it just isn't my taste... Pretty expensive bubbles in my opinion 😜
@TheDanishSpaceman2 жыл бұрын
Keep these coming!! We cannot get enough of champagne 😊🥂🤗
@emiliomulini32482 жыл бұрын
i'm the second person that is in according with you about franciacorta and prosecco... ok, champagne is a world apart, and franciacorta and prosecco was better 25/30 years ago,( especially Ca del bosco) . the problems are that they wants to be like a champagne, but this is impossible. franciacorta could be a good sparkling wine just in their simple expression, but when they wants build a " new champagne" , they put inside a wine too much operations ( to much fermentation, to much time sur lie, etc...) that territory and that terroir is not adapt for to do like a champagne. simple is better ( and possibly less expensive). the same thing for prosecco. glera cepege is a simple grape, high acidity, ok for a simple sparkling wines, good for pic nic or daily dishes. is not in his nature to develop a great wine.. better stay simple. ( both ktypes of wines, provoke in me a big bloating of the stomach....champagne NO. but i have to say that 30 years ago, there was less producers of this sparkling, and the wines was better, like so " ALTALANGA" ( before in Piedmont there was some good sparkling wine, metodo classico, without name altalanga classification, now there is a specific denomination , and a business is served...probably good business, certainly lower quality) cheers
@beneiel11512 жыл бұрын
패트릭님은 이제 영상에 안나오나요??ㅜ
@sippsation44592 жыл бұрын
Well bring it out bc im not gonna drink it again🤣🤣🤣 same!
@user-bj1dp9bt2z2 жыл бұрын
슈람스버그가 4만원대..ㅠㅠ 한국에서 11만원 좀 하던가요..
@user-pn3io5oy3i2 жыл бұрын
Where is Mark?
@jeonghanbyul2 жыл бұрын
함정에 빠진 와인킹 진짜 웃겨요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@kilianhzh2 жыл бұрын
You should ad a nice Traditional Method Sekt from Germany :)