Wing chun and Aikido (Kormushin and Mikhailov)

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saniyasin

saniyasin

12 жыл бұрын

Варианты применения техник вин чунь в практике айкидоки ёсинкановца.
Юрий Кормушин и Дмитрий Михайлов.
Подробная информация о вин чуне на сайте: www.yurikormushin.com/
Подробная информация об айкидо ёсинкан на сайте:
aikido2.ru

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@channelryu3380
@channelryu3380 10 жыл бұрын
Very interesting approach! Wing Chun is very useful as an atemi (opening strike) before proceeding into Aikido techniques, as shown in the video. Wing Chun's sophisticated yet effective blocking and deflecting techniques are perfect to set up certain Aikido techniques. Wing Chun and Aikido have similar approaches: simultaneous block and attack; and entering (intercepting) into an attack (irimi in Aikido term).
@ijoshwoo7929
@ijoshwoo7929 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you both sensie for sharing on both martial arts its a big help for additional knowledge for me.
@vincastrumpopulis4801
@vincastrumpopulis4801 9 жыл бұрын
If you learn wing chun very well you will be an excellent fighter But wing chun or tsun is very difficult and long term way remember Also many teachers are not good teachers
@evanmartin8199
@evanmartin8199 4 жыл бұрын
Wing Chun teaches itself to those who listen and are sensitive enough to learn. But one must have a good teacher to learn chi sao properly and without force.
@magicmatlock7568
@magicmatlock7568 9 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video. Its amazing how these two styles gel into each other. Wing-Chun (close range), into Aikido (very close range). I believe this works best if one learns Wing-Chun first (as i have). I've see it attempted the other way around and the Aikido guys find it difficult to find the flow
@GokuInfintysaiyan
@GokuInfintysaiyan 9 жыл бұрын
Brian Matlock its because its easier to learn "retain centre" first then "moved around opponents centre" first first you control your centre then you learn to move off it the other way around will leave you stuck moving off centre when you're suppose to keep it
@ZFlyingVLover
@ZFlyingVLover 9 жыл бұрын
Brian Matlock The only other art i would recommend is kali because the hand motions are equialent and very natural for open hand, knife, sword and stick. It is also offensive where wing chun and aikido are defensive arts that use the opponents energy against them. Not a knock on wing chun or aikido but a trained boxers will inflict ALOT of damage too on any art due to the barrage and precise nature of that art. Ultimately, the masters all seem to converge on the same understanding irrespective of the path chosen.
@GokuInfintysaiyan
@GokuInfintysaiyan 9 жыл бұрын
ZFlyingVLover aikido throws can knock you out and a strong enough wing chun combo should be able to quickly, boxing is no better at ko then aikido nor wing chun
@seretherethal3139
@seretherethal3139 8 жыл бұрын
+ZFlyingVLover While I'd certainly agree with you in the case of Aikido, Wing Chun actually doesn't have a huge bias towards offence or defence. I tend to find it adapts quite well to either role, depending on what you want to do, since when used offensively you can rely on your training to block when needed, leaving you free to move in and attack your enemy. Wing Chun can actually be pretty vicious when attacking. I will agree with boxers though, they can be a pain. There are ways around them though, and at the very least my school teaches some techniques specifically to help deal with boxers, since they are a recognised danger (given that I live in the UK). At the very least, they're not a danger until they get to a decent level too, so it really depends on how much training each person does. xD
@phosphorescence
@phosphorescence 7 жыл бұрын
I just now realized aikido uses a frontal stance, to maximize their grabbing, pulling and pushing leverage. Right off the bat it made me think of wing chun, because they too prefer to keep their stance the same, but for different reasons. There are some very great similarities between the stances, I wish this video had translations though, just to get the finer points across. Still watched the whole vid, says a lot on its own.
@afanasful
@afanasful 12 жыл бұрын
Excellent job! I really appreciate this idea of combining Aikido and Win Chun since it has a lot of potential. It is very clear and intelligent explanation of the conception. Thanks for sharing and demonstrating your idea.
@papoacosta3656
@papoacosta3656 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this !
@yuichan99
@yuichan99 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you. The level of my aikido changed from practice to a battle by favor.
@Greenbat85
@Greenbat85 12 жыл бұрын
really really nice! Long time I was looking for people mixing Aïkido and Wing Chun.
@CurlyFrysGaming
@CurlyFrysGaming 12 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. I enjoyed watching it, and look forward to seeing more.
@TacoLoco1000-ld5mo
@TacoLoco1000-ld5mo 9 жыл бұрын
excellent demonstration
@Random1765
@Random1765 12 жыл бұрын
Great video. I wish there were subtitles, but what's great about martial arts is it's very visual.
@chitowntexan70
@chitowntexan70 11 жыл бұрын
very good demonstration on how to combine Wing Chun with Aikido
@mannatuu
@mannatuu 11 жыл бұрын
interesting combination . An intuitive extention and convergence of themes
@ferridave
@ferridave 6 жыл бұрын
This is just amazing!
@georgepapas1326
@georgepapas1326 12 жыл бұрын
my respect to both! i dont understand the language but i understand the martial art language! very very nice idea! im a wing chun student and i give my respect to the aikido master for not showing off him self because i can understand that this is wing chun master's idea! you don't see often a master of any art wanting to learn something else! really nice work to all!
@gabrielegiove
@gabrielegiove 12 жыл бұрын
great demostration masters! i hope many masters in future works in this mode, collaboration is important for MA Great video! great work! great tecnicque i respect you!
@IkeTomas2010
@IkeTomas2010 11 жыл бұрын
This is what I've been practicing for a long time Wing chun Aikido Judo savote boxing and Hakko ryu Jujutsu and Daito ryu Aiki Jujutsu.I love all these arts and will practice them as long as I live.I hope I can practice for another 40yrs.
@CurlyFrysGaming
@CurlyFrysGaming 12 жыл бұрын
originally i thought as you did. but after studying in asia and training under masters who had compiled records (including video, and personal notes of great fighters) I learned the Bruce was a very accomplished fighter. He had many fights in asia, and even helped to modify several styles here. he is one of two people who are people claim to be undisputed as a great fighter and a master of the arts and for good reason. I also had the chance to study his style. I find it very effective and fun.
@kevinjavier2793
@kevinjavier2793 11 жыл бұрын
Combinación a mi parecer EXCELENTE
@arkhephilia9844
@arkhephilia9844 6 жыл бұрын
Nice combination techniques,
@dellarias001
@dellarias001 12 жыл бұрын
These guys are cool. Productive friendly practice...
@ogaihtps
@ogaihtps 12 жыл бұрын
parabens concordo com os demais. aliar duas tecnicas tão diferentes é muito interessante.
@ninjauchiha9062
@ninjauchiha9062 8 жыл бұрын
these are both really cool martial arts forms
@ckmkaliguy
@ckmkaliguy 11 жыл бұрын
Very nice work .. I'm a Wing Chin guy and have always thought that Wing Chun and Aikido would work well together..
@Shadowx209
@Shadowx209 12 жыл бұрын
nice moves keep em coming
@Wearemindfulmovement
@Wearemindfulmovement 12 жыл бұрын
I love the simple approach of Wing Chun answer to a single telegrahed punch it will work every time if you (know) in advance whats coming at you how ever id like to see Wing Chuns defensive system when you are taken too the ground.
@matkasim
@matkasim 11 жыл бұрын
great interpretation. used them. it works
@HipHopHead187
@HipHopHead187 11 жыл бұрын
ur right, there is a big difference in having 2 practice more than 1 discipline & merging them.
@HirikiAikidoka
@HirikiAikidoka 11 жыл бұрын
Glad to see this video up. We combined our Aikido with Wing Chun and Muay Thai. Were also on KZfaq and plan on putting more videos up. Just search Hiriki Aikido
@JoemarieTsinoy
@JoemarieTsinoy 12 жыл бұрын
Wow i hope Both of this great Martial artist inspire the world That peace respect and unity is needed for this worlds Martial artist and fighters
@voljinn
@voljinn 12 жыл бұрын
Как же приятно, когда на камеру говорят без всяких "ааа", "эээ"
@garymoore3446
@garymoore3446 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent...!!!
@FreeMan1990PK
@FreeMan1990PK 11 жыл бұрын
срасибо! очень классно!
@tristanroderic
@tristanroderic 11 жыл бұрын
AWESOME VIDEO..THANK YOU......
@wilor2882
@wilor2882 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent combination :D great vid
@MrMuso1563
@MrMuso1563 10 жыл бұрын
Very good demonstration ;) I couldn't understand the Russian but they clearly demonstrated how effective both arts are. There seems to be some similarity with both arts.
@ssw4m
@ssw4m 12 жыл бұрын
I do not understand your language, but the video is very good and informative none the less. Thank-you.
@sifushox
@sifushox 12 жыл бұрын
very good teacher tnx.
@Itztehcuhtli
@Itztehcuhtli 12 жыл бұрын
This man has extremely fast reflexes and fluid line familiarization. He could probably train in any style now and intuitively use what is best for him and adapt it to many situations.
@paulfournier4803
@paulfournier4803 4 жыл бұрын
dont forget that aikido is a gentle blending art rooted in very harsh daito-ryu aikijujutsu. wing chun combined with aikido/daito-ryu ajj is an awesome and powerful approach to self defense.
@eduramm
@eduramm 11 жыл бұрын
EXCELENTE!!! greetings from Argentina ^^
@nonfiction6419
@nonfiction6419 7 жыл бұрын
Wing chun fusionado con Aikido!!! Excelente!!!!
@krywult
@krywult 12 жыл бұрын
Chi Sao (sticky hands) is not a combat thing, but a training excercise. It helps us train to feel the power and direction of an attack. This skill is only necessary, if one of our "light punches" do not hit home, but are blocked. In this case, what we learned in chi sao helps us not get stuck on the block but move around it. Saying that you never saw someone use chi sao reliably against non-wing chun style is like claiming you never saw a boxer beat someone with a punching ball.
@hishokanannet
@hishokanannet 10 жыл бұрын
очень интересно
@Silencer102
@Silencer102 7 жыл бұрын
Me and a Friend "fight as friends". He is an Wing Tsun (called?) "Sifu", and i have some Aikido Experiance. So if we fight a always say "that is realy hard to fight against you, because if i am not careful engough you get me so fast". BUT i have say that realy same to him. And it was realy Interessting we BOTH take technices from the other to learn from each other. Now i know some WT, and he takes little bit of my aikido. And yes we both say, that helps realy much! What i try to say is.. it is NOT like "aikido is better" or "WT is better", realy not! Its more, the mix of both martial arts make a realy interessting style!!!
@aikipablo100
@aikipablo100 12 жыл бұрын
Muy bueno e interesante !
@spinthma
@spinthma 8 жыл бұрын
Great! Thanks, it shows the similarties of different styles, very practical presentation - there may be some different models/styles handling body attack and defence - but the physics behind is the same so also a martial art combat style cannot be cover completely something new - we all have hopefully two arms and two legs; Also I think a Martial art syle nevery deloped in an isolated think-pool but the styles influenced more or less each other - KaREL
@Sigma37
@Sigma37 12 жыл бұрын
Interesting, different techniques.
@MrNpalapas
@MrNpalapas 10 жыл бұрын
Wing Chun is the best principle that will teach you your own techniques. Thats where Bruce came feom and developed JKD.
@raiden490
@raiden490 11 жыл бұрын
i love all the comments about training #, i try to get 4-5 hours of it combact, weight lifting, doing flips and what not, plus conditioning, one thing i love about martial arts is even if i don't know what they are saying i still get it and learn from it
@solidsnake8111
@solidsnake8111 11 жыл бұрын
Aikido and wing chun awesome mix
@DAMONEWRIGHT
@DAMONEWRIGHT 12 жыл бұрын
i like his way of teaching
@xZOAT
@xZOAT 11 жыл бұрын
Aikido "Ai" "Ki" "Do" translates to the art (or path) of harmonizing energy (ki). The goal of Aikido is not to clash with an opponent with striking but to redirect his force. It can be as gentle or harsh as the person wants it to be. The reason you don't see videos like this is because Aikido practitioners do not seek conflict in any form. They practice not so they can defeat boxers or MMA fighters in a ring but so they can defend their lives if the need arise.
@rostislavstryncl8469
@rostislavstryncl8469 10 жыл бұрын
Very nice combinations. I have my own self-defence club (I am black belt in Karate) and we use similar techniques. We prefer low kicks when opponent is approaching and after that we block his hands. But it is necessary to train hand separately.
@raduz123
@raduz123 12 жыл бұрын
Very similar to what me and my brother do, we train in a style of ju jitsu that incorporates a lot of Aikido but also study kung fu, at first trying to mix the two seemed a little strange but they actually work very well together, many Aikido techniques are greatly enhanced by incorporating a counter move usually a strike first, simply to take your opponents mind of the move you are trying to apply. Have a way to go still but hopefully end up pretty good at both.
@TinyTalesBookClub
@TinyTalesBookClub 11 жыл бұрын
are there videos of both parties going at atleast 70% speed? it seems all these videos have rehearsed punches or one party going at 30% speed.
@jhune171000
@jhune171000 11 жыл бұрын
this is a nice combination aikido and wingchun
@dzhabrailtataev5265
@dzhabrailtataev5265 11 жыл бұрын
Love this
@khabriel
@khabriel 12 жыл бұрын
beautiful
@RSARODRIGO1
@RSARODRIGO1 10 жыл бұрын
Harmonia perfeita: Wushu e Aikido.
@m_gtravel
@m_gtravel 10 жыл бұрын
very very very good clip i doing the same :) i learning aikido and wing chun
@PhanteusZ
@PhanteusZ 11 жыл бұрын
My sensei who has been practicing Aikido for more than half of his lifetime, has said it's best to focus on one martial art at a time. Mixing will only result in confusion and improper balance.
@zark212
@zark212 12 жыл бұрын
Rolling Hands is a "Bridge" between forms and fighting. There are a lot of beneficial factors involved and these can be carried forward into real world applications of sensitivity, Position and correct use of stance timing plus energy. One would not expect a WC person to start rolling hands if attacked which may lead to the reason you may be slightly of track. I hope this may have helped you out.
@romerorv2008
@romerorv2008 12 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed watching this. It's interesting to know that two types of martial arts have somewhat similar moves (wish i knew what i'm talking about here). Anyway, this video's really entertaining, plus, the guy in black shirt looks like General Zod from Superman: The Movie (1978). :-)
@Kirkatron1
@Kirkatron1 10 жыл бұрын
Very good similarities.
@robertb8673
@robertb8673 3 жыл бұрын
Wing chun to enter into Aikido technics works well. Both work on similar principles of energiywork. They got similar technics in tenshin aikido (Steven Segal's style).
@Leftyone78
@Leftyone78 11 жыл бұрын
can you do this with subtitles please!! it's a great video
@kwaka599
@kwaka599 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you from kiwi land downunder inspirational --best indepth
@christopazto9286
@christopazto9286 4 жыл бұрын
2:28 Bless you!
@sudhish2272
@sudhish2272 8 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty good example of Wing Chun but not very good of Aikido (I've almost mastered both and know from experience) Aikido is more about grabbing like twisting and using the opponent against himself meanwhile Wing Chun is Contact but usually peaceful and Self Defence
@ShavDance
@ShavDance 8 жыл бұрын
this is just a mix of both
@sudhish2272
@sudhish2272 8 жыл бұрын
ShavDance yea dude I speak from experience go master both and then come & tell me
@ShavDance
@ShavDance 8 жыл бұрын
+Ralicx Gaming yea dude, go learn russian and then tell me
@LastSifu
@LastSifu 8 жыл бұрын
If you were really a "master of both" you'd say that Wing Chun is a redirection of force. All martial arts are for self defense and only meant to be used when necessary. Wing Chun is based on techniques designed to defend yourself against attackers that are bigger than you, hence its creator is a woman.
@sudhish2272
@sudhish2272 8 жыл бұрын
The Last Sifu both are last resort meant only for self defence and many martial arts are made by females. Both arts are amazing but should not be used for provoking others.
@xxivtaweh9970
@xxivtaweh9970 8 жыл бұрын
I wish there's a english subtitle for this
@NagareboshiFin
@NagareboshiFin 12 жыл бұрын
Is the aikidoka from Yoshinkan aikido? Very nice video, thanks, spasiba...
@HiltonBoenosAires
@HiltonBoenosAires 10 жыл бұрын
I don't speak russian, but i think the objective of this video is to show the best of some sticky hands of wing chun and other grab's and trow's of Aikido, all togheter. Am i right?
@user-zi8fb8no9m
@user-zi8fb8no9m 9 жыл бұрын
yes, you are right. Yuri Kormushin(Wing-Chun master) tells that it is almost impossible to catch opponent's arm when he is striking in classic aikido, and Wing-Chun sticky hands technique helps in this case)
@HiltonBoenosAires
@HiltonBoenosAires 9 жыл бұрын
Everything makes more sense now, as i watch the video again, thanks man! =)
@angeloinferno6553
@angeloinferno6553 11 жыл бұрын
yes it does
@robertrka1
@robertrka1 12 жыл бұрын
These wing chun techniques are great. I would liked have to have seen a little bit more " Aikido" also I believe to throw a straight punch you have to move with that punch also.
@boygolden
@boygolden 11 жыл бұрын
This is true after practicing Chi sao for a while. I was able to sense my opponent's next move. This is almost like mushin yet different.
@robertb8673
@robertb8673 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's called tactile Reflexes. A Importent cornerstone of wing chun.
@homejong1850
@homejong1850 8 жыл бұрын
I don't understand what he is saying, but the demonstration shows it all. !
@PhilogusRex
@PhilogusRex 8 жыл бұрын
I don't speak but a handful of words in русский, but I do speak movement and can understand the gist of the conversation. Both styles involve flowing redirection, it is interesting to see their synthesis.
@HARAJITSU
@HARAJITSU 8 жыл бұрын
me parece fantastico tu enseñanza la utilizareen mi dojo saludos renshi roberto saavedra , mexico harajitsu
@GuSz2
@GuSz2 11 жыл бұрын
i think you're right!
@5xing8gua
@5xing8gua 10 жыл бұрын
Спасибо за толковый комментарий! "Герои" это видеоролика очевидно знакомы с боевыми искусствами весьма поверхностно, оперируют стереотипами, не зрят принципы соответствующих БИ, рассуждают о БИ с "высоты" техники, в то время как техника - это всего лишь воплощение принципа...
@Samperor
@Samperor 9 жыл бұрын
The sensei looks too happy. He must love his job.
@CookieNectar
@CookieNectar 12 жыл бұрын
Aikido and Wing chun are two of the most original martial arts. With others deriving from them Aikido and wing chun are rarely not used in the basis of a fight. From these two martial arts came the most important principle, centre line.
@stosemcls
@stosemcls 11 жыл бұрын
Красавцы! Жаль у меня в деревне сложно найти подобные школы.
@MrINDRA07
@MrINDRA07 9 жыл бұрын
Nice style
@HipHopHead187
@HipHopHead187 11 жыл бұрын
Da block & punch then da 2nd technique is Aikido( arm grapple).Learn da techniques & drills so that u can tell wat discipline or wat technique is bein applied. Wing Chun is an efficient system usin da least amount of effort & direct striking, as for Aikido focuses on arm grapples & throws.
@Pie-qs4yg
@Pie-qs4yg 9 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or am I missing something. I don't see any checking of right kick. Whats to stop oppoent from following up his right boxer punch with quik right kick combo. The left is checked but not right kick.
@vokabresch
@vokabresch 12 жыл бұрын
he is trying to combine win-chun and aikido ... starting with win-chun "entrance" and then continuing with aikido techique. Motivation is that win-chun allows to easily grab hands and continue in aikido style
@chezmatic
@chezmatic 12 жыл бұрын
nice lap/fut sao to kote gaeshi technique!
@christianm9894
@christianm9894 11 жыл бұрын
Nice demonstration! I think you don't need a technique if you are faster than your opponent and also have better reflexes. If you are too slow no technique in the world can save you from beeing beaten up. Still, I think that if you don't want to hurt others and still want to "defeat" them by exhausting them, then Akidio is a good way to achieve this.
@la7lu
@la7lu 12 жыл бұрын
please more videos like this, online lessons maybe? I really liked the combination
@raka0407
@raka0407 2 жыл бұрын
maybe it would be better if you practice directly with the experts not online (only opinion)
@dman0044
@dman0044 6 жыл бұрын
How about an American English version(dubbed).
@Wolfwent79
@Wolfwent79 12 жыл бұрын
No dislike here. Just wanted to point out that: 1) There are different styles of Aikido with different ways of how to handle your opponent. 2) There are many One-Hand-Techniques in Aikido as well. Or techniques that force the opponent to protect himself with his second hand. 3) I think the goals of Aikido and WC are different. An Aikidoka wants NOT to harm the opponent but to give the contenders time to think about their actions. If necessary, an Aikidoka can still incapacitate the opponent...
@Kjutte1
@Kjutte1 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks man :)
@osensei2987
@osensei2987 12 жыл бұрын
When you see Aikido practiced with the actual weapons then it all makes sense. The empty handed techniques are nothing more than drills that simulate the same lines of attack and the full commitment that one would use if wielding a sword (katana) or spear (naginata). I'm Shotokan, but I've researched far beyond my practiced style. The study of other arts helps me to understand my own art better. I don't simply rely on senseis to teach me. I want much more.
@henry2450
@henry2450 10 жыл бұрын
Wing Chun and Aikido combination would be epic.
@AggressiveHiDef
@AggressiveHiDef 7 жыл бұрын
Wing Chun is one of the greatest Martial Arts of all time. And can beat anything to date.
@makukawakami
@makukawakami 11 жыл бұрын
i know..it depends on how you use the martial art style...can you use wing chun punch on a guy that is far from you?can you do the crane kick while you got caught up in a clinch?...
@Kliever
@Kliever 11 жыл бұрын
I know this will be a late reply, but wing tsun and Aikido have 2 very different philosophies. The Wing Tsun concept is that the Straight line between us is the shortest distance. While in Aikio is focused on circular movements and evasion
@telegroove
@telegroove 12 жыл бұрын
This is how all martial techniques are learned an practiced...this isn't a brawl, it's a training session.
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