You sound as if you are saying, that merely learning the form itself... is what is most important. The form is merely the introduction... aside from SNT.. which has a Tai Chi training element in it, if trained correctly (Three Prayers to Buddha section, trained slowly.. and entire form repeated 4 times in a row... for 1hr sessions). Having a perfect form is important.. as it shows you are capable of doing clean movements.. but its being able to APPLY these things in sparring, "cleanly" ,that matter most of all. It doesnt matter how well you do Tan Sau in the air.. if you cant seem to apply it in sparring.. without it failing to look and act, like it does in the form, and drills. And of course, knowing how to apply WC to non WC attacks, is also a critical thing that needs to be learned, and developed. The ancient fighters didnt tend to attack like a boxer.. for good reasons.. however.. thats how many people fight today.

I think you meant to say can't.

The third form is a mandatory form or third part of the training. Along with that we have chi sao sections and mook jong sections. The forms were taught as one form originally. The shaolin way they called it. Not only that. But we use BUI GEE in the SIL LIM TAO and CHUM KIU. To believe that BUI GEE is only when you’re loosing is wrong. It does imply a COUNTER ATTACK that’s how it starts off. But truly so, the finger jab is used exclusively in GOOD KUNG FU. Ask anybody who knows.

Wisdom....Charles

Maybe all the forms are equal? Does it really matter if we label things as advanced or less advanced? In reality they all serve a valid purpose.

@@rhodrimorice7746 It matters (beginner vs advanced) in that would dictate the sequence presented and learned, as I suggested in my comment. I mean, sure, they are all equal in that you really should learn them all. But you need the foundation to deal with the more difficult issues. So, strictly from the perspective of progression, it would matter.

Well know no Bjj comes from judo

I don't practice wing chun, but I imagine that it is different for a beginner to be in a losing situation, than for someone with good "kung fu."

Wing Chun was never developed by a Woman... nor For a woman. That story was made up by the secret society rebellion forces, that were trying to take down the govt. of that Era. The story was designed to hide the Roots of where it came from. While WC can be used to overcome larger and stronger OPs... the reality is, that most females are incapable of taking on even the smallest of male fighters. Especially back in that Era.. where the males started training how to fight as early as 3yrs old. There is a Chinese dude, Benny Meng, that did extensive research, trying to find any and all reference to the name "Wing Chun". No such person, nor family name... has ever existed, in Chinese History. The name itself, is a Code-Word. It was to signify the beauty of defeating the enemies rule. As Wing Chun translates to "Beautiful Spring-Time".

@@johndough8115 BOTH stories are based on secret society fiction. I see you choose to pick the one that is against women and you appeal to the triad criminal society for the "truth." I have read Sifu Benny's report and it uses references which are not factual but merely oral stories reduced into a few "heros" and allowed to exist by the ruling men across time. Big strong man stuff...hard conditioning etc...appeals to the very authorities it claims the revolt was against? It is just as likely that the story of the Nun is all that is left of the equal rights movements buddhism produced over and over in China, thousands of temples destroyed, thousands of Nun's and monks and temple societies ended, women reduced to become the property of husbands over and over by Confucian Patriarchy. A famous White Crane husband and wife team openned a school in the 1800's teaching healing arts, reading and writing, math, and Buddhism as well as the fighting arts in the region. Ng Mui is traced to the White Crane Temple in Weng Chen provence too. Plenty of references that are ignored for only being half right, while the detractors then appeal to alternatives that reject women all together? Even if it is fiction, the point of the story remains. MOST MEN are no stronger than this famous warrior Nun, so the story is just a cover to keep the bullies away. They want the big strong man stuff and are affriad of girly arts, so us small boned short men can keep our secrets. Also, it It is a reminder that there is always a bigger and stronger enemy so we need to find success from other means. Consider even the famous pirate lady of the South China Sea, and how her influence would have been erased, or the famous thug madam and her gang mentioned by the British newspapers. These real people and their influence would not make good stories for children so it is possible the ficitional Nun and bethrothed little girl story is a clever fiction to allow it to be retold? The message remains, learn to fight from a positon of less strength and from a disadvantage. So I must ask why is it people are trying to say that is impossible?

@@DrTzeus Part 2: "MOST MEN are no stronger than this famous warrior Nun" Highly Doubtful to the Extremes. At most.. these stories of female fighters.. were against weak male casuals, that had never trained a day of martial arts in their lives. "Big strong man stuff...hard conditioning etc...appeals to the very authorities it claims the revolt was against?" LOL. Dude... you dont get it. Hard conditioning, is a PART of combat. Without basic knuckle conditioning.. you cant even hit the OP in the head... without fracturing your knuckles. And a females weak wrist.. would Buckle with even Partial impact forces... let alone, a lack of bone density for fist contact. An attacker can easily do a light round kick to your shin.. and if you have no conditioning at all.. its game over. The pain will cause you to buckle and crumble to the ground. Your +6 yrs of combat training... all down the Toilet. This is combat Reality. It has nothing to do with Sexism... no matter how hard you want to try to pretend to be some sort of Virtual Keyboard Hero! Facts dont care about your FEELINGS. Even me, starting out as a weak, clumsy, thin boy.. knew that in order to become capable... that I would need to train to an EXTREME level. And it was proven to ME.. by every time I went up against larger and stronger OPs. The fights that lasted mere seconds, before suffering an Injury, causing by very MILD levels of forces. It didnt matter if I didnt like or want to train so hardcore... It was a fact of what was needed... and when DID such training... and reached a high level... I was able to survive and thrive, even under the heaviest of combat forces. I was able to deal with accidental collisions, without crumbling into a fetal positions. I was able to take heavy painful strikes... without dropping my guard, losing my form.. and falling apart. This is Combat Realism. This is Real Life / Nature / Physics. Nobody can Deny these truths... unless one is an Absolute and utter FOOL.

You call me a keyboard warrior but I found your channel has no video's? You seem to only know frail and weak women so I feel sorry for you. Only a fool brags like you do and thinks we would believe a word of it on KZfaq without video... You falsley believe you can prove yourself correct with stories about yourself and falsely believe that will somehow prove me wrong? This only shows, again, that you have no idea, didn't watch SiFu's video here, and that you do not understand the concept of seizing victory from defeat or training for when in a comprimised position. Have you seen my training partner? I have a hundred videos with him....outsizes me by over 100 lbs....but hey, what do I know? Do you even Chi Sau? Are you even aware how tiny Yip Man was? Get outa here with this trolling propaganda...

The system is made in Stages. The first form is mostly Static... and teaches the main hand techs and methods. The 2nd level.. adds footwork to the hand-techs. The 3rd, adds more whole-body mass power movements, short range small circle movements, Finger strikes, ..and some other stuff. The Dummy... is mostly for training when you have no Partner. Its main feature, is so that you can get 100% accurate positioning in your movements. Meaning... you have to step the exact distance, so that your arms techs will be in the perfect spots. Then when you transition from one tech to another... again, you are forced to make the perfect footwork, turning, direction and distancing.. to land at the next position, in the exact correct distance and positions. If you are making mistake here... you are going to make a lot more mistakes... when under pressure, and against a non-static partner or enemy. The final feature of the dummy.. is that it USED to be made to Toughen your limbs... as the ORIGINAL dummy didnt have moving arms... and it was planted deep into the dirt... rather than on a spring frame. In this way... your kicks and arm collisions, developed your skin, bone and tissue density... as well as greater impact strength / potentials. The downside of this version of the dummy... was that since the arms didnt "Share" the center.. you have to take an Extra step for every movement, to adapt to the non-moving limbs positions. That created a lot of confusion... especially for a beginner.