Wing Chun Kungfu vs Muay Thai

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Күн бұрын

One of the most interesting attempts by a Wing Chun practioner to try to go against Muay Thai. What was up with those chain punches constantly in the air? They definitely only wasted energy and left the face open. Let us know what else you saw from this sparring session.
Original video that we analyzed: • 功夫網聚-C-12 泰拳 VS 詠春
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Timecodes:
0:00 Initial commentary
3:11 Slow motion commentary
7:08 Wing Chun question for viewers
8:22 Keeping martial arts indie
8:30 Serenading

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@rayray6490 Ай бұрын

For someone who was fighting textbook I thought he wasn’t bad. Especially compared to some KF “masters” who didn’t resemble any training. Looks like this dude was at least figuring things out

@joedrock2 Ай бұрын

Agree, tho the pre fight posture was never meant to be used as a fighting pose as far as I was taught

@Ed7501 Ай бұрын

Diu!

@rayray6490 Ай бұрын

@@Ed7501 😂 say it with pride!

@jestfullgremblim8002 Ай бұрын

@@joedrock2 fr, the legs being like that is a training method just like Shaolin Kung Fu people do the horse stance and even throw punches from there while training! You are not supposed to fight from the horse stance!! And about the hand position from the Wing Chun stance, i'm pretty sure that it is supposed to be like that only with weapons, yeah you could use it for unarmed but i don't know if it really was supposed to be used like that...

@joedrock2 Ай бұрын

@@jestfullgremblim8002 it's a frozen chain punch, but everything is just attacking the center until/unless something gets in the way! It's really all just making bridge, in a fight it's an easy way to get ones arms trapped

@Juan_Solo84 Ай бұрын

Wing Chun guy here... he's not chain punching, he's changing lead hands most of the time. Sometimes he's reacting to feints trying to intercept punches.

@JEM-fo6rs Ай бұрын

Agreed 👍🏾

@rookiecookie722 Ай бұрын

That's what I was thinking. I don't think he did bad, he wasn't super familiar with everything he should have been doing and probably not too used to sparring either. I say, props to him!

@JoeGriffin-qu4js Ай бұрын

A key fundamental of WC is closing the gap. WC goes in. Once bridge is established, attack with hands and feet until threat is over.

@iainrobson8430 Ай бұрын

He keeps reseting to training stance, I suspect he's not massively used to sparing

@joedrock2 Ай бұрын

Still taking this in, but right away wing Chun guy is not being aggressive enough!

@JEM-fo6rs Ай бұрын

💯!

@iainrobson8430 Ай бұрын

Looks like he's in a training stance for most of the fight, he's looking for the bridge, but not from a fighting stance, going to struggle like that.

@EthanNoble Ай бұрын

No terrible but def needs more live sparring experience

@mengmao5033 Ай бұрын

These guys have a long way to go, but at that point in time, sparring with a fellow novice is exactly what they need to get that reality check and motivation to improve. That said, the video is clearly years old, so you gotta wonder what happened after

@tommytstang Ай бұрын

This is not a Wing Chuan master, the real Wing Chuan is more of an extreme close quarter fighting, meaning he will be some up close in the face that his opponent can’t kick or punch straight.

@PerunaMuayThai Ай бұрын

If I'm MT guy here I only throw those kicks because there was no kick defense for the most part and looked like WC guy was just throwing those punches so I'd not want to enter into a mutually beneficial range and keep it to a range where only I benefit.

@Nowherenick26 Ай бұрын

Hey Jerry are you getting some of these videos through wechat ? I noticed that videos shared through it will get auto compressed and thusly speed up the video

@nathanalexander5772 22 күн бұрын

looking to start martial arts. Just found your channel. Already found a few things. Mainly: gotta spar to apply your martial art. If you don't, it's Bullshido. However, due to connections to Chinese culture, I want to study a Traditional Chinese Martial Art. In your opinion, between Taiqi/Taijiquan, Hung Gar, Wing Chun, or a northern version of Shaolin, which is the best for fighting?

@mee2ube 20 күн бұрын

I do a mix of northern shaolin and beginner level wing chun, I feel like they are very lethal when learned and mixed together.

@nraughmoobyaj8088 10 күн бұрын

The Wing Chun guy was still throwing his hands like he was practicing with dummy sticks. 😂😂😂

@PazCristo Ай бұрын

When the time and rhyme of the 'chain-hand' is spotted, then the situation gets worse. A chain punch without pursuing the opponent's face (keeping the pressure), the chain punch decreases its 'smaller people can beat bigger people' possibility. 7:15 紅船詠春、永春、梁贊、梁二娣、蛇鶴詠春

@MrAlepedroza Ай бұрын

I don't think its chain punching hut rather guard shifting, like old Pugilists did in Europe.

@barlowetube Ай бұрын

I turned the sound off . Way better . Ok neither of these guys are masters by any means however it takes discipline to stay within the confines of any set system , especially when competing with an unfamiliar style . Kudos to both of them for actually participating instead of just uploading or watching a video.

@jinron24 Ай бұрын

Was that just a spar session.

@riversedgekickboxing694 Ай бұрын

I think if you understand different defenses and range you can use that hand position. You definitely need to understand when and how to cover up, and I’d like to see this guy get his chin down and shoulders up a little higher.

@joedrock2 Ай бұрын

Wow see that, u right jerry and proper chain punches both hands should not be away at the same time!!

@joedrock2 Ай бұрын

He needs to step in! Amd stay there, but ya gotta be soft enough and springy enough to make it work

@hyperox7601 Ай бұрын

This is going to be interesting

@yee-wahchow417 23 күн бұрын

The knees-in Wing Chun stance is for muscle conditioning and stretching, not for fighting. The MMA style small gloves are supposed to be for fights where you can do grappling and fast hand trapping, not for fighting boxers or kickboxers. This Wing Chuner is still at an early stage of figuring things out. I commend his courage, though I’d say that he’d have to cross train in more fighting arts and spar regularly to truly find opportunities for blending in Wing Chun techniques. If you are still looking for Wing Chun masters who can go into a ring or fighting arena, I recommend contacting Andrew Cheung or James Cheung - sons of William Cheung - in Australia to see if they have any students who would be interested. Williams Cheung style Wing Chun is a bit different from the classic Ip Man style and not flat footed. And Cheung style Wing Chun doesn’t walk straight into the opponent’s middle but instead uses the principle of blindside attack, which is akin to creating an angle in boxing. But still, I’d say that, no matter the style, Wing Chun’s greatest pitfall is not incorporating head movements, slipping and weaving.

@schoolchoice2176 Ай бұрын

The signature WC hand posture should never be applied in sparring. Even though this guy did a little better by switching between two hands but the move is highly predictable and the opponent can time it. Also the WC should defend the kick with either leg check or intercept, not with hands.

@sneat2028 Ай бұрын

"This works in the movies". ---Wing Chun Guy.

@robertbrozewicz8003 Ай бұрын

Good basics, didn't watch enough Donnie Yan movies, wingchun uses high kicks in certain situations. Wooden dummy training gives some some advantages over any opponent again in certain situations. Then didn't utilise explosive attacks or counter attacks..One thing had in good order was center line. No low side kicks to notice. If mastered they can be devastating. Generally good performance for someone who possibly trains mostly in super safe conditions. Maybe one day can do something... still needs to watch more movies, spar real opponent and do some heavy punching, kicking, throwing, etc...

@OscarJr-th5se Ай бұрын

Yo this dude held his own I'm sure if it wasn't sparring the guy with muy thai would of won for sure. All in all wing chun with great precision and technique is one of the best material arts you could ever learn , speed like lightning , strength unimaginable 💯

@glenndolot4506 11 күн бұрын

The WC guy is very compassionate to employ only the dishwashing technique, if not, it would be catasthropic for the MT guy.

@martialgeeks Ай бұрын

The inward knee crossed legs thing bothers me, that's part of the forms but really isn't a fighting stance, it will happen for a split second when shifting to face the opponent 🤷‍♂️ still cool though, did better than most "masters"

@farkinarkin5099 Ай бұрын

Yes. The whole knees in, elbows in stance is to create muscle memory. I dunno why people think it applies to combat as, "you have to stand like this".

@martialgeeks Ай бұрын

@@farkinarkin5099 yeah no fight stance is static, this guy did solid in it though, but would've done better if he wasn't that ridged

@blackpanther6389 Ай бұрын

Is the default for wing Chun a defensive art? If so I feel like it could be used offensively a.k.a. a bit more aggression.

@Autonamatonamaton Ай бұрын

Every successful WC artist I've seen applies it aggressively, you need to have footwork to make those chain punches actually have any force and to be able to push someone back, you can see this guy was just arm punching and had no force behind his chain punches

@blackpanther6389 Ай бұрын

@@Autonamatonamaton There's a sifu in the area. I've been wanting to learn so bad.

@tonytroy1826 Ай бұрын

Wing Chun is supposed to be an attacking, close range style, and once you're in close you stay there. Also no high kicks, at least not if you're from Ip Man / Wong shun Leung lineage. Definitely won't work if you play at a (kick) boxing guy's range.

@Autonamatonamaton Ай бұрын

@@blackpanther6389 I'd go and check out the class and see what it's like. If you want to just learn a martial art for personal development and because you enjoy the style, just watch and see if it's got a positive vibe, people seem happy to be training there, and the people look healthy and confident. If you're trying to learn how to get into fights or competition, you need to be a bit more selective with where you train and if it will be applicable to serious fighting against determined, skilled opposition. I'm not saying that Wing Chun can't do that, because it can (see lots of videos from this channel) but you need to be much more discerning with what school you attend because if you go into fights with poor training you can get badly hurt

@michaelheard1221 Ай бұрын

I like the wing Chun spirit. He look like he put some time in.

@chopsueykungfu Ай бұрын

Wing Chun guy should use elbows when in the clinch. Maybe he is a beginner?

@ESFDragxnFistEntertainment Ай бұрын

He's using those chain punches to set up a trap definitely has a good foundation but i agree he can set up a chain with a higher guard.

@ThiHambrook Ай бұрын

He is holding back from using the elbows 🥸

@lallen675 Ай бұрын

So.. no elbows or knees? This looks mire like kickboxing vs wing chun

@HiroIndo16 Ай бұрын

those side kicks look more like Sanda than Muay Thai

@Madman42359 Ай бұрын

WC's footwork and leg work preventing and trapping strikes are lacking.. also its not just blocking or parrying but redirecting and counter-striking up-close. MT: not using his teeps properly.. Both arent using elbow strikes (by agreement?) 😅

@renaissanceman165 Ай бұрын

I am reminded of the fight scene from Ip Man 3, between Wing Chun Master Ip vs Muay Thai Boxer. Again, the success may go to the more talented opponent, and,not necessarily, the particular fighting art. Che ck it Out! Ciao!!!

@codythomas1450 Ай бұрын

Wing Chun guy needs to consider himself grateful that Muay Thai guy wasn't throwing knees, elbows, switch kicks, and low calf kicks. Also wasn't applying Muay Thai plum as much for more secure clinch strikes. Long story short wing Chun guy looked like a boy fighting a man in there

@thomasnewton8997 Ай бұрын

Is this a set up

@Televisiontechnology Ай бұрын

You can't use the main crux of wing chun, which is trapping, whilst wearing gloves. Doesn't work in sparring application. Chain punch bs.

@JEM-fo6rs Ай бұрын

WC guy hasn’t been sparring outside his own school. He’s way too passive… waiting for his opponent to attack. Dunno, 🤷🏾‍♂️ different schools different approaches. I see this often with WC chain punching. Chain punching has it place. It’s only a waste of time when you use consistently to close the gap? Numerics or Blast as it it known in JKD can be extremely effective in the right hands. It’s not only a striking technique. That being said I’m a WC guy, I was taught to check the lead arm first. Create a contact point, not jump in recklessly?!?… You’ll get check hooked and blind hook all day. Can’t understand why my WC community isn’t getting this basic beginners concept? Jerry you did a view with one of my Sifu’s. Master Redmond drop some knowledge in that video you did on the beach.

@Brykk Ай бұрын

I would guess he keeps chain punching because he is either just intimidated, or he just is unsure about what hes doing (meaning as an amateur in sparring).

@Beave98 Ай бұрын

he has no idea wat hes doing, chain punching is a concept not a technique. its the idea of constant pressure

@ms.annthrope415 Ай бұрын

Is that WC guy imitating Thomas the Tank chugging up a hill saying, I think I can, I think I can? What a joke.

@leekam4606 Ай бұрын

The lineage which I think he maybe displaying is ... Sum Ting Wong 👊 Wing chun

@joedrock2 Ай бұрын

I came from leung ting, but we left the organization! My sifu was full contact fighter before he got to wt. I like sifu Fernandez wing chun do, he incorporates boxing and pressure testing!

@FightCommentary Ай бұрын

Got any footage?

@joedrock2 Ай бұрын

@@FightCommentary kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l6mqopCrlcyWdYk.htmlsi=INgJ4FacePj0sUpD

@joedrock2 Ай бұрын

@@FightCommentary used to b a gr8 one of him testing a student for technician, 45 min of continuous chi sau, beating on each other n pressure testing!

@MrAlepedroza Ай бұрын

@@joedrock2Yeah, but where is it? Most of his footage was deleted and reuploaded.

@joedrock2 Ай бұрын

@@MrAlepedroza I dunno but I'm sad I couldn't find it!

@user-yj5dw4gz2w Ай бұрын

I see why Bruce Lee combined styles, that Wing Chun alone is not affective.

@paolosergiolupi5056 Ай бұрын

You can tell is a very light sparing if the Muay thai want hurt him only three kicks are enough to put down the wing Chung guy

@congdanhvo662 Ай бұрын

The winchun guy tried to catch all of punches and kicks from the Thai guy. This is incorrect compare to the basic theory of Winchun techniques. In winchun, we dont trade, we strike at the same time the opponent throw their strikings but set up at the different angles, not at the straight line. Even we missed, continue to shift to different angles, this is still way more effective than try to catch these power. Muay Thai is built to keep a very high pressure in straight line combat, so please dont trade with them 😂

@wissawissa83 Ай бұрын

Cue the wing chun guys in the comments spouting the no true Scotsman fallacy

@farkinarkin5099 Ай бұрын

No true Ip man? ... 😁

@jestfullgremblim8002 Ай бұрын

I mean, yeah i know what you mean, but hear me out 😭😭😂😭😭 Wing Chun is not supposed to be used like this goddamn! When unarmed, it is mainly a "grappling" style that has a lot of striking (just like Taijiquan, Baguazhang and even Bajiquan) And that's when unarmed, because just like Xing Yi quan, Wing Chun's main thing was weapon work originally. What i'm saying is facts so this time it is no fallacy. But i do admit that Wing Chun schools are teaching some BS in the sense that they might teach you a technique that does work but do not teach you how to make it work. If you go to a Wing Chun school and show them stuff from other arts that is proved to work, they won't be able ti use either 😂

@teabrick7384 Ай бұрын

@@jestfullgremblim8002 there's no evidence for any of that. Wing chun people just invent history to explain why it never works.

@justinwallace269 Ай бұрын

He's lucky this was a pretty light sparring session, or our Wing Chun friend would have come out with brain damage. I'm actually curious about something, though: I think chain punches are misunderstood by modern practitioners because from I can tell it's a punching drill, not an attack. Most Kung Fu styles, I suspect, are more grappling than striking. The strikes are only meant to knock the opponent off balance while you perform a grappling move. That's why the robot arms he's doing is a punching drill to increase speed fast twitch muscle strength. What do you all think? Is that style of punching actually meant to attack someone, or is it a drill? Because what he's doing here is equivalent to a boxer trying to win a fight with speedbag technique.

@joshuahogan3475 Ай бұрын

It's both. But you're supposed to use it aggressively while pushing forward. Originally it was designed for use with butterfly swords which makes it MUCH more effective. Now days Wing Chun is much more effective if used as part of a combo of martial arts, like boxing or Kempo...or both. Throw in some wrestling or BJJ and it becomes really well rounded. Of course you can always argue it isn't really WC at that point so... 🤷

@MrAlepedroza Ай бұрын

Wrong. Most Kung Fu is striking with a healthu dose of grappling mixed in, like Sanda. Sanda would be a template of what most Kung Fu would be if trained properly.

@justinwallace269 Ай бұрын

@@joshuahogan3475 The stance while throwing those punches lacks any real mobility, so it's hard to be aggressive with it. That and the punches don't amount to much anyway. Aside from looking cool, it doesn't add anything all that useful to the mix, and like you said, with all that MMA, you're not really doing Wing Chun anymore. I seriously think contemporary instructors were left guessing at its meaning, and are applying a drill in live combat - which is why it's so impractical. As a punching exercise, it's excellent.

@joshuahogan3475 Ай бұрын

@@justinwallace269 that stance is meant for extremely close ranges with almost no room to move. Wing Chun has other stances that offer a lot more mobility. But you're correct, the punches themselves don't offer a lot of power, you're supposed to drive forward with each punch using momentum and your bodyweight to add power, which he doesn't do. Even then you don't JUST chain punch. You don't do more than five in a row and then follow up with something more effective after using the chain pinches to open up a strike to somewhere more vital. This guy seems extremely inexperienced, he has maybe two or three techniques and no way to break free of the clenches. He's also trying to be a distant fighter when WC is designed for extremely close fights until you reach high levels in the art. Bruce Lee described it as two men fighting in a phone booth and that is a pretty accurate description! Unless you have been taught the butterfly swords your best bet using just Wing Chun is to close the distance and fight at almost grappling range. And for the love of all, fight from Bowman stance not horse rider until you are that close! 🤦

@justinwallace269 Ай бұрын

@joshuahogan3475 Yeah, that was the impression I had from watching a number of fights and trying it out when I was in high school. Most of the time, when someone tried to show off with it, they just got shot in on and taken down. My friend and I sparred a little when he was teaching me some Jeet Kune Do, but it didn't go the way we expected. He'd been training Wing Chun and Jeet Kune Do for 14 years. All I had at the time was a yellow belt in Taekwondo and some boxing videos I watched, yet I totally schooled him in the sparring sessions. That was a huge red flag for both of us. As a drill, I think these would be great for building up speed. Straight punches are safer for the hand and wrist, and a solid pop to the face with a fast one can distract people while you're pulling off a grappling technique, but I personally would never use that sort of posture or footwork, because it's asking for trouble and doesn't offer enough benefit to be worth the risk.Theres just so many better techniques at that range.

@anthonyalvarez6658 22 күн бұрын

There is Red Boat Wing Chun

@DataWiseStrategies 17 күн бұрын

The wing chun guy should have been more counter offensive.

@chroniccrypto75 Ай бұрын

And they’re obviously in different stages of their training.

@WolfrexrexrexKingKCRongo Ай бұрын

"WingChun" guy needs to learn Wing Chun clearly this is NOT WING CHUN

@cfetty4730 Ай бұрын

First video of a sparring match where it starts to look like wing Chun, still he needs to press to have any real chance.

@TheSacredOrderOfKnightlyValor Ай бұрын

How about Shaolin vs MMA?

@FightCommentary Ай бұрын

I'll see what we can find! There's too many monk cosplays, so we have to look for actual monks. Very rare.

@crashfistfight8234 Ай бұрын

Who the "f" is the wing chun guy?, he's clearly just a student! And not a very good one! Why is he chain punching thin air??? And not kicking? Why even bother filming that?

@floyddominique3731 Ай бұрын

its soft spar, the attack stop after nearly touch your opponents.

@emokid6944 Ай бұрын

Muay Thai guy isn’t as advanced but proves even a couple months can get you whooping ass with someone who doesn’t train at all

@poeguru88 Ай бұрын

Maybe those chain punches could work well while in the clinch 🤔

@mengmao5033 Ай бұрын

It wouls be a valid tactic, but wouldn't be a free ride against an earnestly applied thai plum with at least knees allowed

@poeguru88 Ай бұрын

@@mengmao5033true but I’m Thinking in terms of the Muay Thai fighters perspective; if you already have a good Muay Thai base and are comfortable in the clinch then that chain punching would be a good unorthodox technique to utilize to surprise your opponent.

@yellowprime8491 Ай бұрын

Doubtful; you can barely generate force punching when being clinched unless you are clinching back and "Dirty Boxing".

@mengmao5033 Ай бұрын

@@poeguru88 no argument from me. Having a good clinch game will let you mess around with bursting through with some fast punches from inside their clinch. Vs someone who only has theoretical understanding of the clinch range

@jgenejacques82 Ай бұрын

Have you heard of Chin Na

@jamesdean-zz5lv Ай бұрын

I will tell the average man a secret of martial arts, The absolute best martial arts, are the one's that are practiced by YOU.

@user-rw3dh1rj5t Ай бұрын

☝🏿🔍🤔🔥🔥! The Wing Chun guys having trouble because he is not an expert in Wing Chun he doesn't know about trapping the hands or pushing the hands away to counter balance the Muay Thai fighter !

@user-rw3dh1rj5t Ай бұрын

☝🏿🤔🔍🔥! To defeat the Muay Thai fighter The Wing Chun guy has to stop chain punching and keep his arms far apart and play defense this way he can see the Muay Thai mistakes and beat him when the wind chime guy keeps chain punching he throws off his own defense system !

@DARRELLGRIFFITHS Ай бұрын

Either one, with their chins that high in the air would have flattened within seconds by an average trained good amateur boxer.

@dhingjumaquio5923 Ай бұрын

They were cartoons playing

@Puff_Chady Ай бұрын

Wing chun guy needs more sparring experience.

@mengmao5033 Ай бұрын

So does the MT guy, but they're at the right skill level to be sparring each other

@WolfrexrexrexKingKCRongo Ай бұрын

Or even to learn Wing Chun 🤣🤣🤣

@Puff_Chady Ай бұрын

He has potential.

@leelucas720 Ай бұрын

Low leg kicks from the start would of just took this guy straight out.

@MrAlepedroza Ай бұрын

He did check the leg kicks thrown at him, look again.

@chanwhanlow1567 Ай бұрын

Where is 1 inch punch?

@MrSchnapss 26 күн бұрын

laoding

@mrl2.06 Ай бұрын

Muay Thai not even wearing shorts, come on 😂

@richardhill9477 Ай бұрын

MT great

@yusrimiswari8804 Ай бұрын

Wing chun will be undefeated if they drink redbull cause it gives them wings😂

@ccsccs6212 Ай бұрын

Why wing chun weared a glove. It was unfair

@kraven334 Ай бұрын

If the Wing Chun guy actually had more experience than he does he's a noob

@screamtheguy6425 Ай бұрын

Wing Chun guy definitely has little experience in application, he still uses classroom Wing Chun like how if a non native English speaker goes from academic English in the classroom to informal English in the streets.

@pipappleyard3982 Ай бұрын

He looks like an amateaur Wing Chun practitioner to me. That's not an insult, just an observation. I think you have to get far into the Wing Chun system (forms) before the art becomes highly effective. Seems to me like the moves you would commonly use in sparring, are taught far into the system, not at the start.

@joedrock2 Ай бұрын

Its like he dont know his ranges or the concept truly

@Talking-Monkey 21 күн бұрын

Neither of these guys are very high level. And wing chun guy is swapping lead hand as he adjusts his footing.

@davidnazario6646 Ай бұрын

The wing chug guy should go after the other guy all the time. And not chain punch all the time. Not bad foot work. 🤔☯️

@user-dv5gi8yt8t Ай бұрын

Narrator guy if you are going to report a bout, report it in biased

@dwightgaston6079 Ай бұрын

Wing chun guy was lucky the muay guy wasnt a good boxer

@JoshuaBrown-on2gu Ай бұрын

This is a unfair evaluation of whin chun because if you teach harry potter whin chun hes still harry potter

@jesterflight8593 Ай бұрын

Calm down young fella😂

@jefferylorance7988 Ай бұрын

Muay Thai…vs Wing Chun? Muay Thai has 4 effective weapons vs two…and For stand up fighting Boxing is king..

@lengkeechew2310 Ай бұрын

Don't break the bone

@user-dt4um7fs5v Ай бұрын

Wing Chung guy is too slow, bring back the glory's of Wing Chun at least Bruce Lee style

@Bevallalom Ай бұрын

In my fighting days there was no internet so I don't have videos but man, I will record a sparring session one day to show how wing chun is applied. He is doing basic movements ment for practice drills. I still don't know where that so called wing chun hand guard cames from. I mean it is for weapons not for empty hands.... there is hand guard in the first form but everyone keeps missing it. 😂😂😂. I wander any of you can tell where and what it is 😂. I give you a cookie!! In short: no wing chun was used here. Nothing to see... haha.

@sbgbreakfastclub Ай бұрын

curious. Please tell me. I just went trough the first form but didnt find it.

@mengmao5033 Ай бұрын

It seems every WC lineage has practitioners that disagree with applications from other schools. Looking forward to the footage

@Bevallalom Ай бұрын

@mengmao5033 it is not a disagreement from my part. This guy never sparred, does not learn how to put the principles into action in pressure testing. Take a look at Alan Orr and his students for example. They actually train to apply wing chun. And it's only one example. WSL lineage is a good example too. I don't 'swear on' a lineage per say. I think all has something to offer but at the end it comes down to the training method. Sparring is essential in any fighting art or sport.

@Bevallalom Ай бұрын

@sbgbreakfastclub at the end part of the first section. More hints: you do it simultaneously with both hands. 😉 Basically there is no part in any form where this "famous wc hand guard' is shown. It's in the weapon form... butterfly knife form. But with empty hands makes no sense. The one I use is at the end part of the 1st section of sil lim tao.

@Bevallalom Ай бұрын

@sbgbreakfastclub oh man! I ment 2nd section of sil lim tao. 😀😃🙂🙃 After the double gum sao you do double jum sao. This section is about recovery and defensive actions.

@TheDeadLepShow Ай бұрын

Ya but they got nothin on Wang Chung!

@JoshuaBrown-on2gu Ай бұрын

This is a unfair evaluation of whin chun because if you teach harry poter whin chun hes still harry hap

@user-fu4du5eo4w Ай бұрын

Randy williams crca wing chun is the real deal! This guy needs real training..

@FightCommentary Ай бұрын

His school is called CRCA Wing Chun?

@milenabloch2514 Ай бұрын

Chu shung tin is the best, Meat and potatoes. Mindful wing Chun.

@user-sm7tj8kb7k Ай бұрын

Wing Chun nowaday is for displaying purposes only..

@TheWayVe Ай бұрын

Ur hilarious fr

@Mr.Savage14 Ай бұрын

Plz dont do either of these in a streetfight. You will lose!

@carlo_cali Ай бұрын

Wing Chung I don't think was ever taken serious as a fighting style even in ancient China. I was told that against a person who has zero fighting experience it can be minimally effective. I saw a CCTV of a fight in a China mall among 18 or 21 year Olds and they were not using so silly Wing Chung with silly stance, these guys were trained and training, but I don't know in what, but it was impressive. Maybe it was South Korea bc it looked a lot more like TKD, I'm pretty sure it was China. I took Shotokan in a school back when I was a kid in the 80's. It had always been a Judo school for as long as I can remember, but then they started teaching Karate. What they did back then, I don't think they would or could do to kids now. We had one Sensi, no junior teachers and we were the first class. They or he was really rough on us and it was very traditional even making us learn Japanese. We used no pads and after a while, we had to have real sparring punching inches from the face or other body part. It did teach us major control and hitting a target. There were some tense moments between a man and a woman onetime and he was a humble black guy who hit her by mistake. They were older than us, twenties, and she was black too and after that she was really trying to hit him and get even. He had to use everything he learned to avoid her because they were close in height. It was wild. The same guy was in front of some little kid (I was like 12, 13, 14) and we were doing these reverse kicks and the kid was too close and the guys legs were too long and he kicked the kid right in the face. It was a complete accident though, but I held in my laughter. The school actually still exists over 30 years later in a couple of locations and one guy who was in the first rotation stayed with it and is now an instructor himself. Years later I got into a lot of bad stuff and street fighting and only three times did I use it, and one was me getting jumped by three guys. I took a good beating, but when I flipped a guy standing over me punching the side of my face, I clipped his leg, did this hip thing and he landed hard on his back. They couldn't believe I was now back on my feet and they started accusing me of hitting a guy with broken ribs. Yeah but you guys got me to my hands and knees while one guy kicked me in the face over and over and the other guy was over me hitting me on the left, then the right side of my face. I remember consciously thinking "I don't know how much more I can take of this) and then it clicked, I stopped trying in vain to block shots to my face and clipped his leg with my right arm, placed in the right place, and when I stood we immediately fell hard. It was crazy, but I was happy the one guy wasn't hitting me in the back of the head and I did throw the first punch because they were def planning on robbing me and they didn't get a thing.

@crashfistfight8234 Ай бұрын

Wing chung???😅😂😅 wing chun! , CHUN no "G" ! Also you write too much!!!