Winspace Hyper Wheels. Everything you should know before you buy!

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Reginald Scot

Reginald Scot

2 жыл бұрын

In this review we will cover the following topics:
Construction of the wheels including spokes, rim, hubs, bearings.
Durability testing.
Look at reliability after 1,000KM of use.
Real world testing.
Issues, problems and flaws.
Price and value.
Thank you for watching, don’t forget to comment, like and subscribe. ❤️

Пікірлер: 267
@benjaminblabla
@benjaminblabla Жыл бұрын
I am riding my winspace Lún Road 45mm wheels for almost 2 years now. They are perfect for me, very strong knowing the bad quality of the roads where I ride, cope very well with the rain, sound good and still look in good conditions! They look more simple than the Hyper, have no fancy butterfly effect of the carbon and are cheaper too. I am very happy with them. Great wheels
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
That are indeed great wheels! My friend just got the 30mm LUN ROAD wheels and now he’s flying up the hills! He saved 500g off his old wheels! Thank you for the comment and please do subscribe! 🙏🏻
@ricecrash5225
@ricecrash5225 Жыл бұрын
I have done north of 5000km on my Hyper 50’s. I weigh 85kg, regularly hit 1300 watts in sprints, have had 3 crashes, one serious enough to break bones, shatter a carbon fibre helmet and saw my bike and I over 10 meters apart at the end. The one thing on my bike that has stayed intact and true are my Winspace rims. Could be luck but so far they have proven reliable.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
I was going to say you sound very lucky! Except for all the crashing. Thank you for your comment!
@ricecrash5225
@ricecrash5225 Жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 I know !! In every crash my first thought was always, hope my bikes ok !!!
@alexp247365
@alexp247365 Жыл бұрын
4700 miles on my Hypers from Jan 23 to Jun 23 here in Arizona. Best wheelset I've ridden!
@lunam7249
@lunam7249 10 ай бұрын
you sound sus...like you work for the company with a made up story
@ricecrash5225
@ricecrash5225 10 ай бұрын
@@lunam7249 Haha, it does sound like a story but it’s all true. Don’t work or have any connections in the cycling industry, live in Australia bought the Hypers online.
@TheCyclesport
@TheCyclesport 2 жыл бұрын
Solid video! I really love my HYPER Wheels and my LUN wheels. I have used all of their models and super enjoy the brands. You make some great points and observations. Thank you.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
You are most welcome! Thank you for your comment. Do Subscribe for more reviews! 🙏🏻🙂
@harkat16
@harkat16 Жыл бұрын
Are Hyper wheel and Lun wheels very different? How would you say they differ?
@TheCyclesport
@TheCyclesport Жыл бұрын
@@harkat16 Hey! There are many similarities, and there are also some slight differences. I use the LUN Wheels often and really like them very much. I use the HYPER Wheels very often and really like them very much as well. Both wheels I do sincerely feel are two of the best wheels in general that I have ever used. I have the LUN 45's and 60's, and the HYPER Wheels 38's 50's, and 65's. All of those wheels run perfectly now for many years and I have not had one issue negative with the wheels. I have used each set for a few thousand Kilometers over the last few years. The HYPER Wheels are stiffer, just feel faster and better at the highest level, and are bomb proof it seems. I have taken huge hits with the HYPER Wheels in accidents and holes on the roads. The HYPER Wheels roll on like they are brand new. This is after constant use and huge hits and abuse to the wheels. They are amazing wheels. The LUN Wheels are the best Wheels I have used at that particular price point. For 800$ they are pure class. The Hubs for the LUN Wheels share most of the same design aspects and internals as the HYPER Wheels. I do like the textured braking surface of the LUN WHeels, yet it does seem to be slightly more grabby and locking up if you squeeze it too hard and it heats up. The proper brake pads are key if you want to get the best stopping power for carbon rims. I have had times when the LUN Wheels seem to stick more to the brake pads under the strong force of the rim brakes when in race mode. The HYPER Wheels have always had a very predictable braking rhythm when applying the brakes under race mode forces. I think both wheels, the LUN & HYPER are made by a company that really wants to produce the finest wheels on the market. And a company that values customer service and will be there for its customers for the long term. I like both the Stainless Steel Bearings and the Ceramic Bearings. The Hubs are awesome and as mentioned before, I have been super hard on the wheels, both KUN and HYPER, and both wheels are crafted for performance and durability. If you want the most stiff wheels ever made, go with HYPER Wheels. If you want a high-quality wheelset, that performs perfectly and will deliver endless riding pleasure for a slightly lesser price, go with the LUN Wheels. Either way, you are winning.
@wcseong
@wcseong Жыл бұрын
Great honest review with real life break down view. Sawed the wheel into 2 & take close look inside was great to understand the actual construction. I think the 2023 version just release recently, hope it have included your feedback. Great job, subscribed to your channel.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Yes I think some of the changes were made to the 2023 wheels but I have a suspicion they might not be as aero? Thank you for your sub and comment!
@habana6595
@habana6595 2 жыл бұрын
I did 8000 km since i have the Hypers 50mm and i'm still VERY happy with them. They have seen a lot, 1600W sprints, potholes, bumps and even did some gravel and single track with them. They still true and solid as a rock ! If one day i have to buy a new pair for any reason, i will for sure get a Winspace pair again !
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
Great comment from your personal experience. 👍🏻 yes I also think I will get another set one day. 🙂
@francozahir5655
@francozahir5655 2 жыл бұрын
Are you sprinting at Van Aert's watts and never heard of you?😂
@garygrainger5810
@garygrainger5810 Жыл бұрын
Iam calling bullshit on ur wattage!
@rickmoses5081
@rickmoses5081 Жыл бұрын
What an awesome a informative review. Thanks for being transparent about the wheels.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Thank you and you are welcome. Please subscribe for more helpful videos.
@jiangheng
@jiangheng 2 жыл бұрын
The best Hyper wheel review on youtube so far!
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly! I’m very happy you liked it. 🙇🏻‍♂️
@profly98
@profly98 2 жыл бұрын
i have 3 sets of Hyper wheelset, very happy and satisfied with it,after 3500km riding they still true like new , fast and solid. definitely i will buy again to replace my other Roadbike wheels,it is the best wheelset that you can buy with that reasonable price.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Thanks for your input!
@jean-loubertrand6896
@jean-loubertrand6896 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. Very honest and also well presented and talented.
@MirceaCatalinPopescu
@MirceaCatalinPopescu 2 жыл бұрын
Reginald, congrats. This is the best review i have seen for the winspace hyper wheels. Very very good, well explained and some very interesting points made and probably the most important thing - it feels trusworthy. Subscriebed and interested to other topics you will cover. Cheers and thank you.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! That’s very kind of you. I appreciate all comments but especially the nice ones. I’m happy to have your support. 🙂 Fun fact about my review. I ended up cutting 50 minutes of extra record material from the final edit. 😄
@MirceaCatalinPopescu
@MirceaCatalinPopescu 2 жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 - many times less is more. Keep it up!
Жыл бұрын
Very informative and throughout review. Thank you!
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
You are welcome 🙏🏻
@enriquebermudez1684
@enriquebermudez1684 Жыл бұрын
Thank you mate! Exhaustive video. Appreciated! Well done.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir.
@kakajangra
@kakajangra 2 жыл бұрын
nice one! never knew you are a youtube star:) bringing my bikes to you soon for service. Also have a pair of 50mm hypers to service very soon.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, it will be interesting to see what condition they are in during the service. 🙂
@mowgliepfeiffer8993
@mowgliepfeiffer8993 7 ай бұрын
Great review. I like your channel. Subscribed!
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. 🙏🏻
@skotsephrenia1
@skotsephrenia1 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant and a comprehensive well scrutinised rin depth review... Well said.... New sub here... Hope winspace will lend an hear on this review
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 8 ай бұрын
Actually they told me to take it down… story for another video perhaps.
@CycoWarriorx
@CycoWarriorx 2 жыл бұрын
Great - and very thorough review (I hope you do more wheel reviews!)… I have a couple of questions… 1. Can I change out the hub to a DT Swiss, Kogel, or Chris King? 2. Is truing the wheel more difficult because of the aluminum/carbon mix of the spoke?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
1) unfortunately not. Not compatible. 2) No, it’s just a pain removing the tape every time and then needing to replace it. 3) Thank you!
@DanTuber
@DanTuber 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. But surprised by your recommendation considering the spoke and bearing issue.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
The bearings can be replaced very easily and the spokes are great! Unless you hit them from the side? Nothing is perfect, but the Hyper wheels are quite close. 😀 The alternative is something x2 the price. So when you look at the pros and cons they are still an very good choice. If you can afford something more expensive (DT Swiss) then obviously go for them.
@luketoms6110
@luketoms6110 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting brake down of this wheels set I have the hyper 50, Very interested in the new R45 version just released.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Yes I’m waiting for the aero data to come out… I actually have a suspicion that the old wheels might still be faster because they have increased how wide the rim is to fit bigger tyres… and as we know 23s are more aerodynamic because they have a smaller frontal area… 🤔 Maybe the more aero hubs make up for the loss? Please subscribe for more reviews if you aren’t already. 🙂🙏🏻
@RevelCris
@RevelCris 2 жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 a wider rim optimized for 28mm tubeless tires will prob be faster than a 23 as seen on continental TT tires testing
@vdomien
@vdomien 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Planning to buy the new ones i think…
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
I would wait if I was you. 😄 Who knows if the new ones are better or faster? I’m waiting for the independent aero testing and customer reviews. Simply because it wouldn’t be the first time a company had over reached themselves or made an inferior product trying too hard to improve an already very good product. 🙂 Thank you for your comment!
@robertoduranos5196
@robertoduranos5196 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this video, thankyou.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
You are most welcome!
@milkdud3618
@milkdud3618 Ай бұрын
Great review. I personally need fast dependable and trustworthy road wheels. Crashing after my front Pirelli P zero tire blew a sidewall at 30 mph has me prioritizing quality over high tech unproven parts. No longer envious of the spacecraft hyper bikes. Thank you so much for a great review.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Ай бұрын
You are very welcome! All the best!
@milkdud3618
@milkdud3618 Ай бұрын
The tire after blowout kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bsh-ZsWqr9mnYHU.htmlsi=j9WFd9gKTIauRRl_
@simonalexandercritchley439
@simonalexandercritchley439 Жыл бұрын
Kia Ora, I have followed you for a while, ,this review has earned a sub. Maybe you can join the engineer group of non shill youtubers. The roads there in Brunei look as rough as New Zealand in places. At least Lun/Wins pace listens to feedback as regards improvements,so maybe I should wait for the next-gen. Definitely prefer high quality steel bearings,I expect my gear to last a long time.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Ha ha I think they might be shills as well sometimes. 😆 Thank you very much for the Subscription! ❤️
@TheExtremePower
@TheExtremePower 2 жыл бұрын
great honest review. i used to think the same about Winspace and Lun wheels. i bought a pair of disc 50 hypers in November 2021. 1st impressions were so great that in Jan 2022 ordered a second pair. well, my 1st pair never held air for more than 3 days in the front wheel. i blamed it on other possible issues. after i received my second set, i noticed the same thing . front wheel not holding air for more than 2 or 3 days. i tried 3 different brand of tires with the same result. i contacted Winspace and they requested serial numbers and the likes. 3 weeks went by and no feedback from Winspace. i contacted them again and they recommended i replace the valve stem. i tried that and no improvement. after another 2 weeks of emails with Winspace they offered a $200 credit due to the fact that the only solution they could come up with was for me to use the front wheels with inner tubes. i agreed to it. it has been more than 3 weeks now and no refund and no communication from Winspace. i am assuming i have been taken by another chinese manufacturer like many people have. do not be fooled by all the great reviews. people are getting paid to post them.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for telling your story. I must admit I hadn’t considered the tubeless opinion for the wheels as I use tubes. But that situation sounds very frustrating and I’m disappointed that they didn’t send you a refund yet?
@WinspaceBikes
@WinspaceBikes 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Andres, I haven't actually finished watching Reginald's video yet... but just saw your comment. I'm looking into this for you. It takes a while to gather everything because I see you sometimes communicate via the live chat, some times via email. You have definitely not been "taken by another Chinese manufacturer." We take pride in our wheels, and even more pride in our customer service. Anyway, my colleague will get me up to speed on your case and then get back to you ASAP. Also, no paid reviews here. 🙌
@arnaudseynaeve9266
@arnaudseynaeve9266 2 жыл бұрын
@@WinspaceBikes It seems to me that in the new version, the spokes of the rear wheel do not touch each other
@jpcmonilla
@jpcmonilla Жыл бұрын
Great review. Thank you! For everything that you mentioned that needed improvement, is it possible to replace the stock winspace hubs and/or bearings, and spokes with your recommendations? Like replace the stock hub with a ratchet system and use alloy spokes?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you so much! Currently you can’t because the hub and spokes are Specific to the rim, it all works as 1 package. The only thing you can do is A) replace the bearings with something better. Or B) buy the Lun road wheels as they come with steel bearings and metal spokes as standard. Thank you again! Safe riding!
@xmb9972
@xmb9972 4 күн бұрын
This is the best review on the wheels especially for the cutting the wheels in half segment. Are the sides of the rims supposed to be squishy when u press on them?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 4 күн бұрын
Thank you. 🙏🏻 It’s not “supposed” to be squishy, but as a result of the design it is flexible. 👍🏻
@rdr33
@rdr33 Жыл бұрын
I know I'm late to the party, but I'm currently considering the 2023 Hypers. Winspace says it's "aero optimized" for 25-28mm tires, which is a plus because I prefer the comfort of 28s. That said, should I take their word for it despite not satisfying the 105% rule? Or should I downsize to 25s to maximize aero efficiency, or is it negligible even with 28s? Thanks 😊
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Well, you are asking a guy who rides on 23s… 😄 This is the way I see it, if you are look for max comfort, then you are willing to sacrifice speed. So then it doesn’t really matter what wheels you buy if you plan to put 28s on them. And no I don’t think they are being honest when they say it’s optimised for 25s and 28s because that’s a big difference. Also, be careful of what brand of tyre you use, some are bigger than they say. For example conti 28s are 30mm on most wheels.
@alastairstedman7840
@alastairstedman7840 2 жыл бұрын
Would like to see what you have to say about Light Bicycle wheels. Arguably superior to the Hypers as they use standard off the shelf spokes and hubs and have superior shapes to the Hypers.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
I will take a look. Thanks
@davidwebster2616
@davidwebster2616 2 жыл бұрын
Reginald, you know more than I do about this so let me ask you about the spokes. In regards to spoke deflection (11:00) Realistically, the spokes will never bend and break like how you broke one unless the rim has been in a crash situation. I guess what I'm saying is, the spoke deflection might cause one to break but to the point it breaks in your demonstration probably won't happen unless a worse situation like a crash happens. At that point, the wheel is a total loss. Otherwise, you just replace the spoke and true it up. thoughts?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
I think I follow your line of reasoning… I was just demonstrating they they are weak from side impact. Snapping them in my had was the only way I could show that but you are right that in reality they would be fixed at both ends. However, even a minor crash or miss-hap can easily snap them in a side impact. Probably more so when they are fixed in place. I think in most situations it will be just a case of replacement of 1 or 2 spokes. But a spoke failure at speed could result in the lost of the wheel depending on the situation. Thank you for your comment, it has given me something to think about. 👍🏻🙂
@davidwebster2616
@davidwebster2616 2 жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 I wonder how much more stiff these wheels are with carbon spokes vs alloy. Knowing these rims are carbon to begin with I wonder what the different is and if it can even be noticed.
@swites
@swites Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, very interesting review. thx. I seem to crash a lot. Sitting here with a sling. Usually caused by being in wrong place at wrong time. So I think I'll stick with sapim spoked wheels for the meantime. As I'd be sure to have an unfortunate crash and wreck these wheels. Look like fantastic wheels though. I'm also a fan of longer lasting quality steel bearings too.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Good choice! Maybe you would consider the slightly less expensive LUN ROAD wheels as they come with both steel spokes and bearings. 👍🏻🙂
@davewong2391
@davewong2391 Жыл бұрын
hi, actually what exactly the problem is with the ceramic bearing. Now Winspace says they heard the voice from customers that there is a demand in steel bearings, and a new line is introduced in the market called "SE", which uses steel bearings and costs 1000 before discount, would you suggest that I go with this one. Also, I have received an offer that they can upgrade the bearing from steel to ceramic for free, but I need to pay the shipping charge myself (I am in Hong Kong, I think the shipping charge would not be much), any comments, tks.
@swites
@swites Жыл бұрын
@@davewong2391 Problem is the bearing "race" that the ceramic ball bearing sits in. this is usually metal which is softer than the ball bearing so the race can wear out reasonably quickly as I understand it. Hence many engineers suggest its better to go with a high quality steel bearing if possible.
@davewong2391
@davewong2391 Жыл бұрын
@@swites Thank you very much for your info !! This is probably why Winspace said they heard customers. I suppose that it happens after some mileage of use, anyway it's too bad that it has such drawback. I have been using alloy wheels for many years, they never have a bearing problem !!! Maybe I need to do some more research before making decision. Thanks.
@swites
@swites Жыл бұрын
@@davewong2391 No worries! Good luck :)
@tubesazzad
@tubesazzad Жыл бұрын
Great review! I thought no one can beat Hambini's review, but I am wrong. I am interested to get one.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Yeah his review was interesting, except when he said some things that were wrong. Like the exposed nipples make truing easy. When they aren’t actually exposed in the traditional sense and still require you to remove the tyres and rim tape. 😅 Thanks for the support!
@jhayr1987
@jhayr1987 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review.. I have the 50mm disc brake model. Any recommendation size and brand of tire best to use? I do not race. I'm a newbie RB rider. At the moment I am using a 700x26 turbo Pro that came with my sl7 tarmac.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
The words “newbie” and “SL7 Tarmac” and “I don’t race” and “50mm disc brake model” stop! You are killing me!😅 I’d recommend you never watch any videos on the SL7 by Durian Rider for a start! On your current trajectory of purchasing, I’d recommend the most expensive tubeless tyres you can find. At least $100+ a tyre. You get extra points if it’s Italian branded. 👌🏻 Preferably in 30mm or bigger, because I believe everything I hear from GCN and they say fatter is faster so go 35mm if you can get them. 🙂👍🏻 Good luck! And thank you for the comment! ❤️
@happydays8171
@happydays8171 2 жыл бұрын
I believe "Oz cycle" stuck a camera in the valve stem hole to evaluate the carbon fiber, and it wasn't pretty, not that it was bad. Compared it to an older Dura Ace rim, the Dura Ace was much cleaner inside. He tapped the spokes, and the difference in sound denotes the difference in tension. Might be helpful to test the tension before wheel applications. I'm going to buy a set, for the price, they seem an exceptional value.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed they are very good for the price. I hope you like them! Thank you for your comment!
@NeonGrayEdits
@NeonGrayEdits Жыл бұрын
Great information, thank you. What would the cost be to have someone swap out the bearings to steal ones?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Hi! Well that depends on where you live, the rates at your local bike shop, if you can get a friend to do it and what sort of bearings you use quality wise? But a good bearing is going to be about $10-15 each (The DT ones in my shop are $18 BND each)
@abedfo88
@abedfo88 2 жыл бұрын
I love direct to consumer chinese gear always have done. But now there are English media reviews from a certain clique of youtubers people have developed the same blind spots that they would previously had for the big brands and their marketing. There are a few i trust to deliver impartial reviews namely Peak Torque.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
I guess it’s a money thing… if they say something negative then other companies won’t send them stuff to review. I’m 50/50 on Mr Torque. His opinions and the data he provides are taken by some of his “Disciples” as Gospel and they get very zealot like. I think because most people don’t understand what he’s talking about when he gets really technical that he must be correct all the time. 😅 Thank you for your interesting comment!
@faosa73
@faosa73 10 ай бұрын
I agree with truing all the time and disagree with the behavior with wind. I have other 50 wheels and these are the worst with wind. I am heavier than you so normally this is not a problem in the flats, however I made the mistake of taking these to Colorado Mountains once and regretted it instantaneously. Yea otherwise accelerate very well and seem fast. Need to replace the bearing as you suggested. I make wholes on the rim tape and then patch them up when truing the wheels, otherwise I would be replacing rim tape all the time (that's how frequent I had to true these wheels).
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 10 ай бұрын
That’s very unfortunate. What material do you use to patch?
@stevocanuck
@stevocanuck 4 ай бұрын
what model year are these wheels? appparently they made a lot of adjustments and improvements
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 4 ай бұрын
I believe they are the first gen of Hyper.
@pablomarquez4431
@pablomarquez4431 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the Hunt wheels. Have you did any review on them?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen a few in the shop, generally not that impressive, also also seen some issues with failures. I’d avoid as for the price you can get something better.
@MrJwmurph
@MrJwmurph 4 ай бұрын
I'm on rim brakes and have some very steep and twisty descents which I'm on a lot. How is the braking on the Winspace (dry and wet) and any fears of delamination of the brake track? I'm looking at the Lun Hyper SE R45 (2023).
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 4 ай бұрын
Both is fine. Although if you are worried I’d opt for the LUN ROAD wheels. They are significantly cheaper and the brake track has a ridged surface for better wet weather performance. As for wearing out the brake track I wouldn’t worry. It needs + 200C before you melt them, I did a steep 1000m decent on them with tight corners and they only got to like 40C. Also if you go for deep rims 50+ mm then the carbon will dissipate the heat easily. 👍🏻🙂
@Gozzilah
@Gozzilah Жыл бұрын
do you think you could crack the carbon rim with plastic levers trying to put a tire on?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Yes, you can bust the hooks on the rim. I’ve seen it happen unfortunately. Best to use your fingers or only apply light forces with plastic levers.
@faridvanderlan9833
@faridvanderlan9833 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review! What do you think about the hyper 2023 / 2023 SE?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
I’m dubious about the claims. I’m glad they improved the hub, but they still used ceramic bearings. And making the rim wider and yet lower weight concerns me slightly.
@faridvanderlan9833
@faridvanderlan9833 Жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 the SE version are sold with Steel bearings - so that’s another improvement?
@08GH22
@08GH22 2 жыл бұрын
what do youy call the special tool to adjust the spokes ? or were can u get them thanks
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a hexagonal spoke key. I believe parktools sell them. Ask Winspace to advise you and perhaps they can recommend the best one to buy. 🙂👍🏻
@latteentry351
@latteentry351 4 ай бұрын
Do the wheel sets come with a center lock ring for the disc brake rotors? They were missing from the set I ordered
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 4 ай бұрын
I don’t believe they do. I think most people have a set on their current wheels and we just transfer it over.
@iggybutton349
@iggybutton349 Жыл бұрын
Great vid Thanks for the advice. What 700c rims would you recommend for road/gravel, rim brake about 40mm tires??
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! You mean from the Winspace range or in general? If you want something dependable and something for road and light gravel a set of DT Swiss P1800 aluminium wheels are always a good choice, or the PR1600s if you have the money. I’d avoid carbon road wheels for gravel riding in general.
@iggybutton349
@iggybutton349 Жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 thank you for that I did wonder about DT Swiss
@rubioedwin
@rubioedwin 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thank you. I am on the fence of purchasing my first carbon wheelset or not. Currently I use dura ace 9100, I love them. But I want to upgrade the look of my bike and gain some aero benefits. I don’t race, I am a normal weekend warrior. What carbon wheels would you recommend. I prefer
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
If you just want looks and a bit of extra aero buy don’t race then I’d go for the LUN road wheels. They are $500 BND cheaper than the Hyper and more durable as they use traditional metal spokes and steel bearings. At the price and quality you can’t go wrong. 🙂👍🏻
@rubioedwin
@rubioedwin 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the suggestion. If I do go for the hyper 38mm rim brake, are there any differences between the regular hyper and the new black edition wheelset?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
@@rubioedwin yes the black is painted black… so will probably be heavier.
@raviraina410
@raviraina410 Жыл бұрын
Good coreography bro
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏻
@matsrekdal3065
@matsrekdal3065 2 жыл бұрын
Reviews like these are so valuable, thank you! Would you recommend Hyper wheels for a 95 kg rider like me? Thinking of buying the new ones, riding 25 or 28 mm, rimbrake. Question for you: I ride tubeless now, tubes earlier. Main reason being several pinch-flat punctures like in your video, sometimes while descending from steep mountains. Luckily i never crashed, even though tires deflated instantly. I have also experienced punctures with tubeless, without the sealant fixing it, but sudden deflation will not happen. Why don't you prefer tubeless, especially after experiencing punctures like that?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting comment. 👍🏻 They say they are rated up to 120kg so I don’t see any problem? I guess I would also ask, are you 95kg because you are very tall or are you carrying some extra weight that could be lost? You obviously don’t need to answer but for myself I actually make a promise to reach a target before I buy new stuff. For example I will say. “I will get new wheels when I drop 2kg from my body.” Or “I will buy that new frame when I can ride up this hill on my heavier bike.” Target 🎯 and reward 🏆 As for tubeless, I could make a video about that… but the short answer is: simple cost benefit analysis. Tubeless requires more time to install and costs more+ new bike pump + sealant. More issues, more hassle, more mess, for not enough improvement to justify it (for me.) I have seen them fail in a number of ways and it always leads to a mess. I’m a bit OCD and I can’t stand sticky mess! Ha ha Thank you for your comment! Safe riding!
@matsrekdal3065
@matsrekdal3065 2 жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 Thank you for answering.🙂 I'm 6ft 4", and can not say i have many excessive kg's. I work as a fire fighter, and have been doing cardio and weightlifting for about 20 years. I just got a little worried during your section with the carbon spokes, considering my weight.😅 But like you said, weight limit is 120 kg, so... I agree about tubeless being messy, and i have experienced them not sealing a leak. My decision was based mostly on safety, as sudden deflation will not occur. I have had pinch flats down both Mont Ventoux and Alpe d' Hues, luckily while going in a straight line. Still, not a pleasant experience. It really scared me. Are there any special kind of tubes available, which will have a more "controled" deflation?
@panamik
@panamik Жыл бұрын
@@matsrekdal3065 FYI, Tubolito tubes deflate much slower than regular butyl tubes when I get a flat - much safer on fast descends.
@matsrekdal3065
@matsrekdal3065 Жыл бұрын
@@panamik Thanks, good to know😉
@stephen4347
@stephen4347 Жыл бұрын
I am bombing it at 100 km/h at 117 kg.
@humprey2
@humprey2 2 жыл бұрын
Would you consider doing a review of Spinergy Stealth wheels?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
If I had a set I would. 😄
@arsyazz
@arsyazz Жыл бұрын
what is the best brake pads for lun hyper 2023 R45? i mean (easier on wheelset brake surface) thanks
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Well, the ones Hyper supply are good. Nice and soft. If you want better wet weather stuff try the BBB Carbstop pads. But, I personally use the Winspace pads.
@tmp1k
@tmp1k Жыл бұрын
Are steel bearings an improvement in any ceramic bearings based hubs? I.e dt swiss 180s? I.e avoid ceramic bearings hubs?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Yes avoid hybrid ceramic. Quality steel is always better.
@lunam7249
@lunam7249 10 ай бұрын
@@reginaldscot165why do you say that?
@GuysEnjoyYogurt
@GuysEnjoyYogurt 5 ай бұрын
My rims were destroyed, Are these hubs compatible with anything besides the OEM and does winspace sell the rims separately?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 5 ай бұрын
No and yes. But supply is a big issue. They are not supportive in providing parts I’ve found.
@laurencelangbort9876
@laurencelangbort9876 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Very thorough! Really considering these wheels but I'm concerned about maintenance with regards to the hybrid ceramic bearings. I ride over 5000 km per year and really don't want extra maintenance issues. What do you recommend that I do?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Buy the cheaper ones that come with the steel bearings (they now offer that as an option.) or ride them for a few 100 KM and buy some quality steel bearings for them. That’s what I need to do, my bearings are toast!!!
@ThomasCraig2
@ThomasCraig2 Жыл бұрын
​@@reginaldscot165 Which bearings would you recommend?
@yonglingng5640
@yonglingng5640 Жыл бұрын
​@@ThomasCraig2 NTN, SKF and NSK are some good examples.
@ThomasCraig2
@ThomasCraig2 Жыл бұрын
@@yonglingng5640 I have a wheelset with enduro bearings. How do they stack up to the ones you mentioned?
@markpavkovic
@markpavkovic Жыл бұрын
Do the carbon spokes effect the ride quality? Are they uncomfortably stiff on less than perfect roads?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Well, I ride metal bikes, titanium mostly so my point of view is from the perspective of a very comfortable frame. But I don’t notice any significant problem.
@faosa73
@faosa73 10 ай бұрын
these wheels are very stiff and narrow, you will notice less comfort compared with other less stiff wheels for the same tire size
@ipoddubny
@ipoddubny Жыл бұрын
that little washer for the read hub (the one that goes between the freehub and the internal bearing), does anyone know its parameters? I got the Hyper D45 wheels second hand and it looks like the washer is missing
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Contact Winspace for a replacement is your best option. 👍🏻🙂
@orkatz2238
@orkatz2238 2 жыл бұрын
do you know if they are using bearings that doesn't tear the hubs on the new ones? thank you for your video by the way
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
Same bearings unfortunately.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏻
@neberabaltz
@neberabaltz 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you mate. Gonna buy ones and swap them to steel bearings. Very helpful 💪🏻
@thebespokecyclist3624
@thebespokecyclist3624 2 жыл бұрын
The Elite Drive D40 is actually way lighter than even the new version of the Hypers they just released a few days ago but has the same rim specs. Similar price. Other than the Elite Drive series though nothing else comes close to the value of the Hypers. I just ordered the new Hypers, we'll see how they perform in real life.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to find out myself, can’t wait to hear the first reviews! Thanks for your comment! 👍🏻
@alastairstedman7840
@alastairstedman7840 2 жыл бұрын
Plenty comes close to the value of the Hypers and arguably exceed them. First brand that comes to mind is LightBicycle. Superior aero shapes are available. Their 56mm falcons come to Mind with a wider / better aero shape to it optimised for a wider range of tyre widths. Non-propriatry spokes and hubs. LB builds wheels to your spec. So you can choose your spokes and hubs. And at the end of the day once all is said and done the LB's are very similar in stiffness and strength and also weight without the pitfalls of the carbon spokes and funny hubs. Not bad wheels but certainly not the best value out there.
@thebespokecyclist3624
@thebespokecyclist3624 2 жыл бұрын
@@alastairstedman7840 If you're talking about Chinese wheel builders then you can get lighter wheels with better specs or brand like DT hubs for cheaper. Farsport and Gozone and many others.
@Yonok2009
@Yonok2009 2 жыл бұрын
I’m now convinced that I will continue to use alloy rims ✅ Marketing hype is rife with carbon wheels Thanks for this review I’ll be sharing it with my team Good work 👍
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
For most people aluminium are fine, but with carbon getting so well priced there are definitely some advantages to owning a set.
@drouleau
@drouleau Жыл бұрын
Well, in a lot of cases alloy wheels are fine, in particular for day to day training. I used to use Easton EA-90 SL wheels for many years, which were pretty light at around 1,400 grams but obviously not aero by any means. I did eventually crack one of the Eastons near a spoke nipple - didn't know I had done so until the bike shop pointed it out. I switched to the Hypers in 2019 or so, and in certain situations you can definitely feel a difference in speed, particularly with a cross tail wind as the wheels act like a sail. I got a pair of Winspace Lun 30's for windy days (and there's a lot of wind here in Tucson, and also where I lived in SoCal for 5 years prior) as the Hypers can get a little dicey in 20+ mph winds in certain types of terrain. The Lun 30's are a good wheel as well, seem pretty bombproof and they seem to deflect the wind even better than my lower profile Eastons did, and more importantly, I don't need to adjust my rim brakes switching between wheelsets like I had to when I used to use my Eastons and then switch to my Enve's (the Enves were utter garbage, BTW). For the price point, the Winspace wheels are hard to beat. I do have a set of the Winspace gravel wheels, but haven't used them yet as I finally got my bike in that I ordered nearly 2 years ago. I'm looking forward to testing those ones out too.
@TheCyclesport
@TheCyclesport Жыл бұрын
The HYPER Wheels are the way to go if you want the best wheels for your team.
@fVNzO
@fVNzO Жыл бұрын
Personally i haven't bought a single new bike/wheelset where the hubs and seals (if they even came with seals) weren't completely dry. And it always makes me wonder how high the return rate of wheels are, because without grease on especially the cassette side of the rear hub where there is rarely a seal on lower end wheels, a simple washing with a brush can destroy your entire hub. Hence why i now always disassemble at least that side of the rear hub just to pack it with grease to hopefully save the fragile bearing from the elements. The last wheelset i bought only lasted a single ride in the rain before both hubs were completely destroyed, with zero after sales support. I had to buy and install new bearing myself and after actually packing them with grease they lasted another 2 years with daily commuting in often, very wet conditions. It just goes to show that, for me, wheels are always skimping on grease and you risk destroying your hubs on new bikes due to this fact.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
That’s a very good observation. Personally never had the same level of problems with older wheels but I did notice more modern and more expensive stuff definitely are a bit on the dry side.
@fVNzO
@fVNzO Жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 biggest issue for me is that you can peek right through the cassette on both of my cheaper wheelsets and the bearing is completely exposed. So the only option is a lot of grease right behind the locking ring. Seems like a little cap with a rubber ring is the last place you'd save a buck on an entire wheelset. Idk what they're doing. Maybe I'm just unlucky with my wheels. I'll buy some proper carbon rims eventually :P
@bikedawg
@bikedawg Жыл бұрын
The inner rim bead looks huge. How difficult is it to remove the tire off the rim?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Not easy. I’d say 7.5 out of 10 for difficulty.
@paulinblack9036
@paulinblack9036 9 ай бұрын
I'd almost decided to give some Hyper 23 D33s a go to help get my overly rotund 110kg body up and over the Cotswolds. But your review scares me. I'm wondering now whether I'll put them out of true first ride, break spokes all the time and spend all my time waiting for replacements from China.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 9 ай бұрын
I don’t think you will break any spokes unless you crash, but they may come out of true and they are a slight pain to sort out.
@TheWip140
@TheWip140 Жыл бұрын
OK, very successful and helpful review, but I would like to know something about the stiffness compared to the wheels, e.g. DT SWISS ARC 62, or in these Hyper wheels the stiffness of the rim is similar to DT SWISS. Does the DT Swiss rim bend in the middle under pressure as in these wheels? Is it better to buy DT SWISS 62 ARC or these hyper 65mm wheels ?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
If you can afford DT Swiss, buy DT Swiss. They are definitely better wheels, especially the hubs, but also the build quality and durability. And they are probably a bit more aerodynamic. The only disadvantage to DT is the price and they are slightly heavier, but not by much. Thank you for your comment!
@TheWip140
@TheWip140 Жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 Okay, but what about the stiffness because it has not been mentioned is there a very big difference in stiffness between these DT and Hyper wheels? People write that these Hyper are great for criterium races where most of them are sprints and strong ones, I'm not convinced in this belief but ...? Generally, I hunt for a high 65mm cone, it's hard to find anything at a good price, everything starts at $ 2000. DT great but low 62mm only:(. You wrote about aerodynamics but in your tests it turns out that these Hyper are faster than DT, I assume it has an impact the height of the cone So the aspect of aerodynamics in DT Swiss is probably dictated by profiling, that's how I understand it, and in Hyper it's simply the height of the cone that counts at the expense of less aerodynamics due to the rim profile used, do I understand correctly ?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
@@TheWip140 The carbon Hyper 50mm was tested against a DT Swiss aluminium 21mm wheel. The reason for the comparison was based on price and weight as a 21mm DT PR1400 is similar weight and price to the Hyper. But obviously the 50mm deep wheel is more aero than a 21mm. If you put a DT 50mm against it I’m sure the results would be different. I have no way to test for stiffness in a reliable manner. But I would imagine the hyper to be slightly stiffer, but I can’t say if it would be significant.
@davidramez6219
@davidramez6219 Жыл бұрын
How about an updated review with their latest design changes?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
If I buy some of the new ones I sure will. 🙂👍🏻
@davidramez6219
@davidramez6219 Жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 get the new winspace Mega that they are coming out with. 😀
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
@@davidramez6219 if they make it in rim. 👍🏻
@tanggololongproductions
@tanggololongproductions 2 жыл бұрын
I hope China cycling sees this video. 👌 And hopefully further improve these wheels. 👍
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha, don’t worry, Winspace have definitely seen the video. 😂
@jkk916
@jkk916 Жыл бұрын
Spokes are supposed to bare tensile load only so comparing them with chopsticks is a bit off. Even if they are being incidentally struck from the side they are being struck while they are strung so they won't brake in the same fashion. CF should also be very durable and dimensionally stable. If everything is done right, truing won't be needed at all. But I am also slightly worried about energy absorption capability at impact (accident).
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
From seeing them in a crash they react in much the same way as in my test. They just snap… They don’t seem terribly durable, carbon without paint is quite soft, you only need look at the damage to a raw carbon seatpost from a dirty saddle bag rubbing on it to confirm that. They are good wheels and certainly strong enough, you just need to be careful when say loading them into a car. In a way you wouldn’t think twice with steel spokes. Great comment! Thank you.
@jkk916
@jkk916 Жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 Thank you for the content, I think it is very useful for those that are interested in the product! Regarding durability I somehow agree and disagree at the same time. Carbon fiber - epoxy composite is very durable at intended cyclic loads (along fiber), way more than aluminum for example. But if you accidentally load material across fiber you will load epoxy which is weak and can fail instantly. I would say latter is not matter of durability, but matter of robustness. CF won't elongate much before they break, that's also why I question the ability to absorb energy at impact. If you compare spoke and seatpost you will see that load case in the seatpost is more complex and more problematic regarding anisotropic materials. Spokes are perfect usage case of fibrous composite. I think the material in theory does not even need epoxy because it will only be subjected to pure tensile loads. But the critical points are aluminum joints at the ends, if delamination occurs at the whole length it will affect those. That's my two cents, but I must say I am not any authority for that matter, I am just talking out of my head. So I stand to be corrected.
@michelbesedin7081
@michelbesedin7081 Жыл бұрын
Any thoughts about Lún Routte 45mm Rim Brake Wheelset?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Yes, the Lun road series of wheels are excellent, they have better bearings, metal spokes that are more durable, better breaking surface and they are Cheaper. Seems good to me!
@kpsig
@kpsig Жыл бұрын
I am eyeing the 2023 model. Ready to add them to my cart, then I discuss with a friend who asked me if I also buy a full face helmet, being explicit for this brand. I am 88 kg, that is why, he told me. Semi pro guy some years ago. I am totally confused. By the way, I am surprised by the so many positive, similar amongst themselves, comments here….
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Humm, 88kg isn’t bad, they are good for 120kg I believe, but not everyone needs such light wheels. For reliability I’d go for the cheaper LUN ROAD, the breaking surface is better and they are more sturdy in their construction. 👌🏻
@kpsig
@kpsig Жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 I forgot to add that I will have to go with the disk brake version. By the way, have they made any changes to the bearing or they kept the 2022 model ceramic bearings?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
@@kpsig Unfortunately the same crappy ceramic bearings. But they now offer the Same rim with steel spokes and bearings at a lower cost.
@haorob
@haorob 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Reginald, I just bought the R45s for rim brake but my wheels don't have any special "braking surface" alone the rim. As for as I can tell, the surface where the brakes touch is carbon just like the rest of the wheel. But I thought rim brake wheelsets come with special braking surface? Can you help.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
45 for Lun road?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
The older version did for Lun road, the Lun Hyper doesn’t have anything anymore. Maybe it’s an update version of Lun Road you have? Best people to ask are Winspace if you have any problems. 👍🏻
@yonglingng5640
@yonglingng5640 Жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 He meant the HYPER 2023 R45. The surface of the brake tracks aren't that much different from the rest of the rim, but there are definitely no grooves on there.
@aneczka2114
@aneczka2114 2 жыл бұрын
it would probably be more realistic to put a spoke under tension like on a wheel then test the snap test. lol i was shocked when you smashed the bearing...i thought it was gonna shoot out
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment! I’m glad it was entertaining. 😅 as for the spokes I was just demonstrating their durability rather than a realistic test inside a wheel. But you make a good point. 👍🏻🙂
@markfisher7962
@markfisher7962 2 жыл бұрын
The destructive testing of the anvil surface (and probably the hammer) was a shock!
@shankeong6753
@shankeong6753 Жыл бұрын
The older Hypers are on clearance now. I need a new wheelset for a new Ti bike build and can't decide if it is worth pay extra for the new D33 or older Hyper 35s. My head is telling me to save the money and go for the older ones. Anyone care to convince me otherwise?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
It depends, mostly on money, if you can afford it why not get what you really want. Or if it was me and the hyper 2020 was on a good sale I’d get 2 sets in different sizes. 😂
@MegaXtc11
@MegaXtc11 Жыл бұрын
I got the Hyper 20 38mm Rim Brake, I think you will not be dissapointed
@retatme2390
@retatme2390 Жыл бұрын
Have you reviewed Hunt wheels?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Not on KZfaq, but my review is: I wouldn’t buy them. Many better options for the price and the hubs aren’t that great. 🙂
@xmb9972
@xmb9972 Жыл бұрын
Can you put 23mm tires on these wheels?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
I do, they work fine and have an almost perfect fit with the Sides of the rim. 👍🏻
@elijahgarma4894
@elijahgarma4894 11 ай бұрын
where can I order the spokes?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 11 ай бұрын
Winspace website
@Megadeth6633
@Megadeth6633 Жыл бұрын
32:44 Hilarious to watch, what a review
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you were entertained! 😉
@pauldistance4347
@pauldistance4347 2 ай бұрын
/Shot in the dark here and very late query....but did you happen to weight the bare rim, and hubs. That information seems very hard to get?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 ай бұрын
Hello, I didn’t, but I still have them so if I remember I will try to post that information on my community page.
@pauldistance4347
@pauldistance4347 2 ай бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 that would be brilliant, thank you
@kentwong3818
@kentwong3818 Жыл бұрын
are they center-lock or 6 bolt?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Center lock if you get disc. 🙂
@JBR.1974
@JBR.1974 Жыл бұрын
so no more free sare spokes with Hypers as of the end of March
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Really???
@shadigif8916
@shadigif8916 Жыл бұрын
Reginald you delightful SOB 😄
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. 😁
@shadigif8916
@shadigif8916 Жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 hello ladies & gentlemen Reginald Scot here your cycling aristocrat.
@Stoffendous
@Stoffendous 8 ай бұрын
I prefer a ratchet system over the 6 springs system.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 8 ай бұрын
Me too 🙂
@Yonok2009
@Yonok2009 2 жыл бұрын
Please change the purple bar tape 😊
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
I must, it’s been 6 months. I do like the colour but next I’m trying the most expensive tape cinelli have to offer!
@Yonok2009
@Yonok2009 2 жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 yes Cinelli make some very cool bar tapes
@ItachiGT
@ItachiGT Жыл бұрын
Well, I would get steel spokes and bearings anyways, no matter the brand.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Smart 👍🏻
@luftens
@luftens 2 жыл бұрын
What's the weight of the rim?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
Just the rim or the wheel sets? 🙂
@luftens
@luftens 2 жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 just the rim please, thanks
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
@@luftens The 50mm rim without rim tape is 430g. Thank you for your comment! Please do subscribe for more videos like this.
@luftens
@luftens 2 жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 Thanks! Would you happen to know the weights of the other rim depths, and spokes/hubs? I wonder how the new ones will compare as well..
@simonwillgress
@simonwillgress 2 жыл бұрын
So what your saying is we should be riding £500 bamboo wheels🤔
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
I would be very interested to test that! Also if someone could find a way to make titanium wheels id also be very interested. 😂
@joselynagoncillo8744
@joselynagoncillo8744 Жыл бұрын
Comparing breaking points between carbon fiber and stainless steel to conclude that steel is better is a bit unscientific. We know the strength and lightness of fibers against steel are of different category. Using the hand to break a spoke or bamboo chopstick may be 'dramatic' in a way, but still unscientific. What if you use a gauged press to find out the breaking point? What if we try to bend the fiber with a controlled force and apply the same to a stainless steel spoke, will the steel spoke return to its original straightness? Will the carbon fiber bend permanently like the stainless steel spoke? If the same crash happened to a stainless steel spoked wheelset, the rim would have collapsed with the spoke bent, rendering the rim useless because of the pressure of the impact on the rim. The video did not show what happened to the rim. Did it explode also like the spoke, or did it receive cracks or damage? Again, scratching the spoke with a screwdriver to show that it is not as strong as steel is unscientific. Physics dictates that hardness is defined by its scratch resistance by another substance. Using steel to scratch the fiber is nonsense. We are not after hardness, but pulling power or strength under load. It would have been scientific if tension was applied as a pulling force and measured how much weight each would hold without any deterioration. Spokes are used to pull the rim edges to the hub and weighted as much as possible equally. How much tension can the spokes hold with the nipples not giving out and also the spokes themselves? Checking the rim by cutting it in half seems to be lacking. A section of the rim with the spoke holes could have been cut in order to see from both sides without too much usage of an external light. The rim structure is like that of an egg. Putting pressure on the side of the egg breaks the egg. But, putting pressure on the ends of the egg does not. Mere stepping on the side the rim is also unscientific. How about a measured weight put onto the side until breaking point?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Your comment is a waste of both our time. 😂 You didn’t pay enough attention to the video and you totally missed the points. Let’s break down all the stupid stuff you just said. You keep saying “it’s not scientific.” Yes that’s correct, it’s not… and your point is? Did I say it’s a scientist test? Nope! Also, when you crash, is it always under controlled scientist circumstances? Nope! Snapping the spoke is what happened to the spoke when it was in the crash, I’m “demonstrating” how easy it is to snap by doing a “comparison” with a chopstick. That’s it. Did I at any point say “this is a scientific test?” Nope. The kind of measuring equipment you are talking about is the sort of stuff only a large laboratory or research Center would have. I just have a workshop and 1 broken wheel to play with. Not 100s of wheels and spokes I can smash in a controlled environment. Why don’t you go and spend $1000s on that and post the results for us? Yes the video did show what happened to the rim. That’s the rim I cut up, try to pay attention, I mentioned that in the video. The scratch test showed Exactly what it was designed to show. If you rub the carbon spoke against a harder material it will degrade. That’s it, nothing more complicated than that. And nine times out of 10 when you drop your carbon wheels on something, or hit them against something it’s going to be harder than carbon. If you do the same test with a steel spoke and steel screwdriver then nothing will happen. So therefore steel is more robust than carbon. I’m sorry that bothers you, but it’s just a fact. You can’t assume that if the wheel that was crashed had steel spokes it would have broken. You don’t know that because you don’t know the forces involved and how the wheel would have reacted. I didn’t cut the rim up anymore because I wanted the 2 halves of the rim for future projects. That’s why I used a torch. Stepping on the rim is not a scientist test, it’s a “demonstration.” I am showing what happens if you step on the rim. What use would the braking point data be to an average person anyway. I know the rim gains it’s strength from its shape. I mentioned that in the video. Yes it’s like an egg. But I stood on it and it still didn’t crack, so that’s a very positive point for the wheel. The problem here is: 1) you don’t listen and pay attention enough. 2) You seem to live in a delusion that everyone in KZfaq has the funding and technology to conduct every video as a scientific test. Not only is that unreasonable and unrealistic but it’s also not the only type of useful data.
@cyclingluke9412
@cyclingluke9412 Жыл бұрын
He changes the definition. “Balls of Steele”
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Ha ha
@goonzjav
@goonzjav Жыл бұрын
Are you in the uk?
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Yes, in East Finchley… the part with the Palm trees and the tropical climate. 😜 I’m in Brunei my friend. 🙂
@goonzjav
@goonzjav Жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 lol I thought perhaps we had a seller of winspace in the uk.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
@@goonzjav I’m sure you do. 🙂
@veloaddict
@veloaddict 2 жыл бұрын
I'll stick to my aluminium DT wheels.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I do love my DT Swiss aluminium wheels. For every day riding you can’t do better. ❤️
@somnumna2606
@somnumna2606 2 жыл бұрын
Man runs into side of carbon wheel and it breaks…no news here. Sidewalls are not the strength of carbon rims because they are not supposed to be. The rim shape is designed to be fit for purpose and it obviously is. Fair crack at some backyard engineering though. Certainly not too technical but practical.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
Good point and nice comment. Thank you. 👍🏻
@thomaslee2344
@thomaslee2344 3 ай бұрын
I have purchased two sets with a promotion Winspace had. Asked to exchange to a disc version from a rim brake model, same price and I would paying shipping to return and ship identical exchange and they said no. Never again. Horrible customer service.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 3 ай бұрын
Yes I too have had issues recently with their terrible customer service.
@luismanrique5373
@luismanrique5373 Жыл бұрын
loosing layers of resin not carbon most likely first. @8:46
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Black dust, so probably some carbon in it?
@jpvdw1961
@jpvdw1961 Жыл бұрын
14:52..... hybrid ceramic bearings don't last very long. Proceeds to smash a hybrid ceramic ball bearing with a sledge hammer and does nothing to the ball. Ball dents the vice flat metal surface. "That goes to show you how incredibly strong ceramic bearings are "
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Yes do you not get the obvious point? If they are that hard what do you think they do the the softer steel races that are inside the hybrid bearings as you roll down the road? Take your time… 😘
@jpvdw1961
@jpvdw1961 Жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 a wheel bearing will never see the equivalent force of a sledge hammer and a stationary cast iron vise.
@lunam7249
@lunam7249 10 ай бұрын
@@jpvdw1961your correct
@raulfernandezperez73
@raulfernandezperez73 8 ай бұрын
that rim its reparable
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 8 ай бұрын
Not now! 😅
@raulfernandezperez73
@raulfernandezperez73 8 ай бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 yeah i saw now he just cut my life in half whe i saw it it still hurts
@shinghongip9460
@shinghongip9460 Жыл бұрын
People buy these for carbon spokes n ceramic bearings, if you don’t like them, you don’t like them, they are not down falls, just personal dislikes. But I personally, yes, also prefer steel bearings n metal spokes, but it will bump up the weight at least 30g to 50g.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Some truth to that. 👍🏻 People who don’t like hybrid ceramic bearings are just people that know they are rubbish. Ha ha everyone else who likes them just need time to work that out. 😅 Thank you for your comment!
@shinghongip9460
@shinghongip9460 Жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 yeah, thats basically the normal non hyper lun version, but at that weight and price, you have more choices from elite or superteam, as u mentioned they offer ratchet system hub indeed.
@dickieblench5001
@dickieblench5001 2 жыл бұрын
You sound like Carlton Kirby🤣
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea who that is… but I will look it up. 👍🏻
@dickieblench5001
@dickieblench5001 2 жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 Kirby: "3-2-1 Vlasov!"
@duncancycles
@duncancycles Жыл бұрын
The hooks with the wheels are WAY to aggressive as Winspace admits it. I literally can’t change tire tires because the beads within the tires get stuck! Winspace won’t do anything about it
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Yes changing tyres on theses wheels is a nightmare. You have to prep well.
@duncancycles
@duncancycles Жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 prep? What do you mean by prep?
@yonglingng5640
@yonglingng5640 Жыл бұрын
The bead lock on Winspace HYPER rims are indeed solid. I had a harder time unseating beads of a tubeless tire. Strong thumbs required for this one.
@michaelmike3865
@michaelmike3865 2 жыл бұрын
Don't lie to us bro... maybe 2021 and not 2001
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 2 жыл бұрын
Hi , I don’t understand your comment. Can you elucidate?
@kopavlov
@kopavlov 2 жыл бұрын
@@reginaldscot165 You said you sell them since 2001. I think that's what Michael is referring to
@richardcarr6493
@richardcarr6493 11 ай бұрын
YES they re fast light and aero but cost too much for what you get and not as DURABLE as a good as alloy wheels especially for RIM brakes .l like yrs of use not mths BUT you have money to waist go for it these are the best bang for lots of bucks !!
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 11 ай бұрын
Good points 😁👍🏻
@occyman
@occyman 10 ай бұрын
You make a lot of assumptions about spoke strength, zero science behind it. Instead of this video people would do better to watch Leuscher Teknik video where he actually tests these spokes under measured tension. And over my 25yrs of racing and training I’ve had many spokes break so your point is not really valid.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 10 ай бұрын
Your comment is inaccurate. Assumptions? If you watch the video I tell of a real life situation where the spokes failed and I demonstrate how that happened and how easy they are to snap. Is that not useful information free from assumptions? I have seen the video you referenced, pulling the spokes in a linear direction to test tensile strength Is playing to the advantages of carbon fibre. Also useful information, but not the worst case scenario as spokes are designed to deal with that type of stress. As for “Zero Science…” the definition is “the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained.” (I also confirmed with my PHD Scientist wife.) By that metric there is Science in this video. ☺️
@boogiexx
@boogiexx Жыл бұрын
The part of the review where you talk about hubs etc is fine, the part where you talk about mechanical properties is not....Sorry but after I watched you scrape the spoke with the screwdriver /chopping a bit of resin any the tinniest of threads/ and said ' that's loosing layers of carbon very easily'' I lost you. You can't have serious review saying stuff like that. As you can see when you break this spoke you don't have layers you have carbon fiber roving that hold it's force along the direction of carbon fiber threads perfectly as it should, there's no layers in carbon fiber spokes. And you will be able to scrape any softer material with the harder one. Breaking it in half and comparing to the chop stick that is at least 10 times thicker. Really? For flat objects stiffness increases by the cube of thickness. So it should be harder to break a 10x thicker chop stick then a carbon fiber spoke along it's thinnest axis, try using the same thickness and see what happens. I agree that these are not perfect but price/quality ratio is really high.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Жыл бұрын
Yup 👍🏻
@philng99
@philng99 Ай бұрын
Hi! Is there a way to email you or chat you on facebook or instagram? I have a small problem with my wheel that maybe you could help me figure out. I have the d45 as well. Your review btw is the best i've seen! And I thank you really for this.
@reginaldscot165
@reginaldscot165 Ай бұрын
Thank you, I guess my IG, I have a page I set up and never used. Just look for “reginaldbikememe” and send a direct message.
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