Not only men painted lol

There were female painters that time around as well

@@danimotherofchickens479 oh please... quit it.

@@ahmadsuleman2334 ooohhh shut up. this is what happens when u listen to women.... look how sstupid the world had gone.. and IM A WOMAN USING A MALE ACCOUNT!!! geez...

I think it's more about painting itself it was considered a forbidden and evil act it wasn't allowed on there lands that's why all paintings of them were made by description and after a while of their deaths and that's why they didn't even allow women painters to enter the hareem

I was thinking the same, glad you make the point.

I agree, Mahidevran beauty is umderstated!

And Mihrimah Sultan's portrai is fake, too.

Mahidevran was really beautiful that's true, but not the prettiest woman in Ottoman Empire. Safiye Sultan said ''Nurbanu is the most beautiful woman I have seen in my life'' and she wasn't even that young anymore when Safiye Sultan saw her. Mihrimah Sultan is called ''the Sultan of Sun and Moon'' (her name also means sun and moon) its said that her face is ''like a moon'' and REALLY pretty.

@@ddivinosa that's true. All the Sultanas were extremely beautiful undoubtedly but Mahidevran Sultan's features were detailed in such a way that it seems to be the most prettiest woman of Ottoman Empire. Mahidevran itself means "the most beautiful in all". Also she was called Gulabhar( meaning rose of the spring) Mahidevran by Sultan Suleiman.

Nurbanu sultanı canlandıran Merve Boluğur da çok iyi bir seçim olmuş bence, o dönemde ve o dizi de aşırı güzeldi

Nur Banu signifie quoi exactement ? Car de ce que j'ai compris on donner un nouveau nom selon son caractère ou apparence

@@user-gd4fv5tk6t “Dame de Lumière”

The magnificent.sultan sulam.great history.

I think in Hurrems case I think it was a case of two soul mates meeting. They wrote poetry to each other so they both shared an artistic side. They were both smart in Hurrem maybe he found someone that fill that need to be totally understood. Just guessing.

There were female painters too

@@saptaparnadas4089 in that era? Are u crazy xD especially for harem jobs, hell no.

@@vvmew766 no no.. There were female painters who used to draw pictures of queens, princesses, concubines... They were educated in harem tooo

@@saptaparnadas4089 maybe, I don’t quite think so tho, they had language (speaking / writing) lessons, singing, dancing and instruments. Never heard painting mentioned. Even if they did, none of those drawings were saved anyways, so the looks of sultanas will always remain mystery.

i think youre right. i wander if they were able to meet the male siblings of these create and re-imagine them in female form ...maybe that coupled with a description or sketch from a palace maid or something.

Seriosly like seriously are you kidding me

@Arif Hurrem sultan-lutherian(Ukraine) Nurbanu sultan-venician(Italy) Safye sultan(Albanian) Kosem sultan(Greek) Turhan sultan (Russian)

@Arif and also Halime sultan(azerbejian) Handan sultan(bosnian)

Don't forget, that only the most attractice women were taken to harem.

@@nielubieinceli Yes but people back then definitely looked different than how people look now.

I saw this paintig when I googled Kösem Sultan 🤣 Also this painting of Mahidevran hatun is of Kösem.

I thought they mix up the painting of Hurrem & Safiye.

I have heard Hurrem Sultan was not exactly strikingly beautiful like they say Mahidevran Sultan was, the real beauty about hurrem was her intelligence, her wits and political skills and her red hair.

I heard hurrem wasn't that pretty😅 it was her personallity that was really cheerful and she was supposed to be really seductive

@Arif Would you stop repeating the same thing in every comment!!!😒

Hurrem is known as most smart though

How did they define beauty though. I saw a photograph of a 19th century Princess from Arabia once and she was HUGE. Like morbidly obese, huge. She was also considered the most beautiful woman in the world at the time. Now we as a society consider that disgustingly ugly and horrendous. Perceptions throughout history constantly change so to put modern beauty standards to a historical figure isn't always wise. Not to mention these women were only ever seen by other women, their husbands and eunichs. Meaning the paintings aren't necessarily that accurate...

@yitzhak shekkelsteingoldmanberg sadly that's how Asian countries beauty standart. White white and white

@@M.Campbell-Sherwood She was not Arab I understood for what woman you are talking about! She was an Iran princess you know a Persian princess she was of Qajjar Dynasty and yes in Iran facial hair and obese body were considered as beautiful !!!

@@asiminapateraki1680 Ah, yes, thank you :). I think being overweight in those days and further back was considered a sign of status and beauty in most places/worldwide. For a person to be big like that they had to have the money to afford all the food it would take to get to that state. Plus they never really had to do anything to work it off the way the poor in society did. Have you seen any documentaries on the types of fake food cooks would come up with as jokes when sugar was discovered? It was sometime in the late Tudor Dynasty I think, maybe later. They could make sugar bacon, sugar roasts sugar fruit etc. When the diners would bit into their dinner it would be a pure sugar treat. Its not being discovered, through archaeology, that wealthy people of that time period had dental issues. Bodies were being found with lost teeth, cysts of the mouth etc. I can only imagine how quickly that would have made them all gain weight. Especially if they were doing it several times a week.

Can you mention a few of these youtubers? Im curious now 😅

The other one is called magnificent century not suleiman the magnificent and it follows the story of hurrem

@@afellowlimelight372 series in some countries titled suleiman magnificent

@@raditya5663 they both are different 😂

Not most famous. Most famous is Hurrem.

@@afellowlimelight372 The are 2 TV serials Suleiman The Magnificent and the other Kosem Magnificent Century !!!

Looks pretty average in this rendition.

They were the most average looking ones in this.

wrong!!!!!!! Hurrem is the most beauty. Racist didn't go far. Everyone who become king favorite must be beauty. Second floor is not like any women can stay. Remember it. If she didn't beauty than she won't even have a chance to meet the king not only getting palace from the first place. So stop your racist muslim a$$ on convert anymore.... Use your brain punk...

And you were there in the past to confirm those two. My dear, All of them are renditions..

@@arunbose4877 were you??

@@indigozen4794 you just proved his point that these are renditions genius

Mihrimah was blond with blue eyes

It wasn't Mihrimah's portrait, it was Kösem.

Both of my maternal grandparents had dark hair, yet produced a blond daughter, my aunt. They both had ancestors with fair hair.

Actually if someone is red haired is more probably his/her grandchild to be also redhaired rather than her/his children.

@@Yoruichi_16 It could be that Hürrem was what we call today strawberry blonde, in which case Suliemans' dark genes would be dominant

@@user-ho7mg9ol7w What dark genes? In the sources he is described as light haired (not blonde probably light brown) and blue eyed.

@@suk.489 you're right. No idea what I was looking at early this morning 😆

Thank u 💜

I hope I can see Humasha Sultan too, the daughter of Sultan Murad 3

kosem 6:10

Mahidevran's portrait is wrong.

Ahmed l

Yes ottoman sultan before camera invented

Nope..

Ottoman history was sent to Bulgaria after the proclamation of Atatürk's Republic and burned. The Ottomans, who had lands on 3 continents, are known to have ruled an area of 5,200,000 km2 in the best period. He ruled from 1299 to 1922 (or 1302-1922 according to some historians). What a pity that the world should jointly destroy such a history for its own interests. Moreover, even our history books lie and the Ottomans have been circulating from language to language for centuries. The Ottoman Empire is the most honorable empire . We listened to the political games that witnessed that period from the ancestors of our elders. In the Ottoman period, yes, women were very beautiful, they were all carefully selected and cared for, and it was forbidden to see the harem salutation women by men other than their husbands. Only women who serve the harem know this. Likewise, even making a painting of it is a death penalty and you think about the rest. Although the Republic of Turkey is tried to be portrayed as Arab, the only traditions that are common with Arab countries are religious belief and the Qur'an. There is no respect for excessive Islam in Turkey, another love is another to apply one-on-one. Likewise, Sharia is extremism, the people will never accept it, it is another to be free and it is another to be a slave. It's like being good and being the best. We cannot be as good as the Ottomans. This is another way of doing this, 98% of the generalities of some Turks are from the Ottomans.

Me too!!!!

Yes, thesultans did seem to go for redheads.

In the Ottoman Empire, the strong ones of the foreign men were made soldiers and the others were made civil servants. If there had been a kidnapping as you said, the Ottoman Empire would not have ruled the European lands for centuries. In addition, they did not enslave and exploit the nations in the lands they conquered, such as Europe

ALL powerful nations, tribes, peoples enslaved others in all the world. Enslaving is bad and it still exists.

In history, Mahidevran and Nurbano were most beautiful.

Yes,that's right.The portraits were painted according to the description.Because strange men were not allowed to see the wives and princesses of the sultans.But the woman looked very much like the pictures,like today's identikit

Exacto, solo nos podemos basar en lo que se contaba de ellas, es decir los comentarios y comparaciones que hacian concubinas y hasta sultanas... Por lo que se dice, la belleza de Mahidevran y Nurbanu fueron las que más destacan en cuanto apariencia, ya eran increíblemente hermosas. En cambio Hurrem no era tan hermosa, pero era exótica en un tiempo que abundaba las mujeres rubias y pelinegras o castañas, dicen que ella era un poco pequeña, de cabello rojizo y piel de porcelana. Pero la verdad se ganó a todos por su carisma y alegría 😌

Im sorry then the painter should have been fired ! Even i could have done a better job. These woman look 👀 horrible in these paintings 🖼 Im gonna paint 🎨 myself so no one dares paint me ugly when im gone. This shit should be an insult for real 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Lies again? AIA Money

@Kranky. K! The Ottoman Empire was very bizarre,the wives of the sultans were slaves,the elite troops were slaves and the officials up to the grand vesir( chansellor) were slaves.

I thought Mahi was born in Circassia

Mahi is albanian

No, no and no. Hurrem was born in Kingdom of Poland. Not to Ukraine. Rohatyn was in Poland when Hurrem was born, but now the city is in Ukraine.

Nurbanu Born in VENICE

Nurbanu was actually Italian. Kosem was half Greek and half Italian. Mahidevran was also Albanian

The turks in Anatolia are mixed with Greek,kurds,armenian,Georgian,Pontus,and other this is why they look like this

@@Satsuma-tm8ep Turks are not mixes of kurds or georgians or pontus people, First of all kurds only live in eastern anatolia so they can't affect all the population. Same goes for georgians and pontus people, they all lived in their own area. One last thing is that at first kurds were alawi's(a different sect) then selim the grim killed all the alawi kurds and replaced them with sunni kurds. Why im telling you is because muslims from different sect's don't marry, atleast not in numbers that could affect you.

@@nadirhikmetkuleli7335 totally bull. Sunni islam was the most important thing for the selim the grim and he did killed them and replaced them with sunni kurds. Also kurdsnare irani people and they were alawis just like iranians

It is known that Sultan hatice wasnt beautiful at all , but for kosem alot said she was one of the prettiest and so is sultan ( mihrimah ) the daughter of sultan sulieman . They said everyone spoke of her beauty and even people across the sea’s heard of her beauty . I love the series and their history and everything about them

I mean, the series is basically a fictionalization. There’s a lot of truth in there, but I’m fairly sure the actors were chosen for skill as an actor, not historically accurate looks. All the paintings I have seen of Kosem are dark haired. The series treated history the way Disney did with Pocahontas. Major plot points accurate, but not how you cram for an test.

You only assume painters to be men

Magnificent Century and Magnificent Century: Kosem while having a BIT of history in them, is largely fictionalized drama. I've also read that the reason why Kosem was viewed as beautiful was largely due to the fact that she was slender and had dark hair and eyes that complimented her fair skin.

@yitzhak shekkelsteingoldmanberg Why not? Kosem's first actress Anastasia is both blonde and Greek so ...

The artists themselves never seen them in real life, only from what people (who supposedly met them) described them. Also, there is no way the Sultan's concubines weren't pretty. So yeah, they all must be (physically) beautiful in their own way

Because they r ugly that y painting is like that Even though they r the pretiest of their land🤭

Cierto....La I.A. tan publicitada, ha fracasado en lo principal....la comparación entre retrato y foto deben parecerse....incluso fabricandoles las ropas y adornos de la época.... Una lastima....!

Not really as these images are based on the paintings.

I don’t think so, the portraits make them look so white... I think they would be fair but more with golden skin like middle easterners are but this makes them all look so European. In paintings most of them has olive skin

@@ahiatskarks1770 there are many white looking turks

@@ahiatskarks1770 Not all of them were from the area.

@@SeaDemon25 yeah but common, they all didn't look European.

Mahidevran was the most beautiful sultana in ottoman history !😍👸🔝

@@luizadoca210 wrong!!!!!!! Hurrem is the most beauty ever and even Christian try to condemn her because she was too powerful and born with beauty and intelligence. Racist didn't go far. Everyone who become king favorite must be beauty. Second floor is not like any women can stay. Remember it. If she didn't beauty than she won't even have a chance to meet the king not only getting palace from the first place. So stop your racist muslim a$$ on convert anymore.... Use your brain punk...

shes supposed to be the prettiest one. her name literally means beauty of the times.

@CherryDelRey you missed my point, I'm not surprised, I know that Muslims kidnapped around 2 million people in Europe, slave ships went all the way to Iceland (many recorded cases). I'm surprised how any of the comments doesn’t acknowledge the fact that those women were forced to sex slavery. It was not their own choice.

@CherryDelRey I find your view bit odd, personally like any normal human, I've always been shocked of slavery - any slavery, also the modern slavery e.g. in India or in Dubai. In any post about slavery e.g. in America the comments wouldn't be neutral or positive and quite rightly so. As I pointed out earlier, the comments here don't see any issue or even acknowledge the fact that those women were slaves. The ethnicity of the victims doesn’t justify slavery. Also, find it equally odd that you automatcally assume me being white, as if a none-white person couldn't feel empathy also towards white victims.

@CherryDelRey Actually, I haven’t seen here any critical comments, nor acknowledging the fact that these women were slaves. The comments merely seem to judge and compare the women’s physical appearances. It’s just common sense for any human being to try to make the best of their situation and everyone has a natural will to survive. Your comments regarding the latter marital status of very few of the slaved women seems to me just like a feeble attempt to change the focus of the discussion.

@CherryDelReyI find your answer absurd once again, as I'm clearly not ignoring anything here e.g. slavery of African people. You, on the other hand seem to ignore and deny any wrongdoing in regard to these women. All can says is two wrongs don't make a right.

@CherryDelRey Firstable I'm commenting here this particular video, not all the thousands of other videos. Secondly, I have been very clear that I do condemn strongly any kind of violence and slavery everywhere in the world in the past and in the present.

Wow where can we see it, I’m so curious to how they look

And what I heard about her, she was prettier than Hurrem. Eventhough I love Hurrem too

@@tralala9677 beauty is not everything mahidevran life proved it. She died alone

@@comradeleppi2000 thats veeeeeery true, totaly agree, but can we just fulfill our curiosity😀

@@comradeleppi2000 well, it's not like she had many choices... :(

@@comradeleppi2000 she lived a life, without getting cursed and destroying other people. The magneficient century has portrayed her as a bad person, to justify hurrem. However she was nice and people use to love amd respect her

The roots cause is not any one person. Egoism, greed, paranoia, and corruption would destroy ANY empire.

Don't learn history from dramas.

Şehzade Mustafa'nın ölümü bir faciadir.

There is no exact evidence that Hurrem is from Russia, many say that she is from Rohathyn Ukraine. Although who knows?!🤔

Hurrem is Ukrainian not Russian

Hatice Turhan Sultan is not russian shes romanian

Wasn’t Hürrem's birthplace part of the Kingdom of Poland at the time she was born? In any case she was Polish.

@@philae05 No one knows for sure because she was picked up as a slave, so details are sketchy. But it was likely that where she was born would've been Poland at the time but later became part of the Ukraine, so dual nationality

Yes, otherwise the painter would get his "paint brush" chopped off!

well these weren't painted by palace painters. no sultan in the ottoman empire was. we don't know what they look like apart from general descriptions of their appearances by servants and such.

Ask Holbein

Sohom Ganguly I love Mughals. Interesting empire! A great empire founded by Turks, Mongols and Indians. It was the first state to unite the geography of India. A powerful state founded and enlarged by the grandchildren of Timur Khan. But the rest of the dynasty members are in bad shape now! Many members of the dynasty were executed in palaces when the Empire was invaded while it was weakened by Britain. Some were exiled to Burma. The last remaining noble princess in India is trying to survive by selling pancakes to support her family.

@@tatangatatanga5551 But mughals were not the first to unite India.

@@abcdefghijklmnopasd Turks and Mongols who brought it closer to its present borders. Although most Indian societies were related, they used different languages. At the same time, because they were not a warlike society like the Turks and Mongols, another could not gain superiority over another Indian kingdom. The biggest factor in this merger. Those from the north were the first to unite them in a new order. In history, the Mughal empire was the first to reach lands close to present-day India.

@@tatangatatanga5551 ever heard about Laladitya Muktapidya of Kashmir ?

@@tatangatatanga5551 ever heard of maurya , gupta , chola , pratihara , rashtrakuta , shunga, lalitaditya , harshvardhan , maratha empires? Lol. India was united many times.