Lion: *Farts* Guilliman: Even his wind smells like freshly baked rolls..... (grinds his teeth)
@koatam3 жыл бұрын
Maybe he's just that good?
@Valhalla16003 жыл бұрын
@@koatam He IS that good.
@JD-td6oh9 ай бұрын
Don’t blame him the lion is the shit
@IgorPrototype905 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you did not read the part with the table and the chairs... ‘So, this,’ the Lion said, gesturing to the long table. ‘This surprises me. A work of emotion, not logic.’ The light of the late afternoon, discoloured by the storm, flooded the chamber through high windows. A long table, carved from stone, dominated the length of the room. Around it were twenty-one chairs, all built for the scale of a primarch. Each one was cut from the same mountain granite as the table. The chair backs were draped with banners. The great seat, at the head of the long table was draped with the pennant of Terra. Two of the other pennants were plain and made of bleached, un-dyed cloth. The other eighteen were the banners of the Legiones Astartes. ‘You did this?’ The Lion asked. ‘Are you mocking it?’ asked Guilliman. The Lion shook his head. ‘It moves me. You still believe in a day when all of us, all of us, can sit at a table with our father, as equals, and talk of the matters of empire.’ ‘All of us,’ Guilliman nodded. ‘You made this room in anticipation of that?’ ‘Yes, many years ago. Does that make me sentimental?’ asked Guilliman. ‘No, brother,’ said the Lion. ‘It shows you possess a soul.’ He set his hands on the back of one of the chairs bearing an un-dyed banner and leaned. ‘Two will never come,’ he said. ‘Yet their absence must be marked,’ replied Guilliman. ‘Places must be left for them. That is simply honour.’ The Lion straightened up, and slowly pointed, in turn, at the banners of Horus, Magnus, Perturabo, Mortarion, Curze, Angron, Alpharius, Lorgar and Fulgrim. ‘Others will never take their seats, unless as conquerors,’ he said. ‘I know,’ said Guilliman. ‘Yet their places must be kept. I believe in the Imperium… In the continuity of the Imperium.’ ‘That it will endure?’ ‘That it must endure. That we must make it endure.’
@chelannaicker43914 жыл бұрын
Damn, I'm gonna read this!
@badman2311774 жыл бұрын
Son of the XII legion thanks for that dude.
@jimblackford66204 жыл бұрын
Man, reading that gave me chills. I'm really going to have to check this book out
@bryanaa1964 жыл бұрын
"Two will never come" intruiging.
@Versosurma4 жыл бұрын
Wow i really lost major respect for this channel
@yecnay254 жыл бұрын
“Everything is fine Guilliman. I have a minor bat problem on my ship.” Konrad screeching as he plows into a squad of Dark Angels. “But my Knights have it covered.”
@setaripantheon88013 жыл бұрын
Next squad(21 squad of the day) makes themselves ready with Plasma weapons since the last used Volkit weapons as they prepare to enter the sealed of section of the ships bowls...
A minor Batman problem, though he's more like the Batman who laughed.
@PipMane2 ай бұрын
Konrad curze is dead, how the hell is he on the ship??
@yecnay252 ай бұрын
@@PipMane this is during the Heresy Konrad dies post Heresy
@wattrocks4 жыл бұрын
"HE swung at our primarch!!" "Our Suspicions are confirmed!" "the space wolves are working with the FALLEN!" "Make Him REPENT ASMODAI"
@wanabeguitarguy4 жыл бұрын
REPEEEEENT!!
@bplup64194 жыл бұрын
"Codex of the Secrets of the Dark Angels Chapter? This is unfortunate."
@atsukunisumeragi19674 жыл бұрын
Likely, many Fallen helped against the Alpha Legion, so if they came back to Fenris and asked help from the Space Wolves, a mix of honour and sentimentality could cause them to accept working or helping in secret without asking for explanations.
@wattrocks4 жыл бұрын
@@wanabeguitarguy "DID SOMEONE JUST SAY, "MURDER ANYONE VIOLENTLY?!'"
@wanabeguitarguy4 жыл бұрын
@@wattrocks that's what I heard brother!
@Autechltd4 жыл бұрын
That honor guard of 9000 Space Marines would have been enough to crush an entire star system cluster in modern 40k.
@atsukunisumeragi19674 жыл бұрын
More like several Sectors. With just 6000, the Black Templars are considered nigh unstoppable in case of rebellion... During the Grand Master of Assassins' tyrany, much fewer Marines were enough to make a coup d'état on Terra...
@lordcommissar78133 жыл бұрын
That's just it tho back then they were so unstoppable the only threat was themselves
@yaboialphapsi-krieger27092 жыл бұрын
@@atsukunisumeragi1967 A crusade of weaponized autism.
@Observer-O Жыл бұрын
Shouldn't the numbers have an extra two 0s added to have it be more realistic?
@alexiel4406 Жыл бұрын
@@Observer-O yes but 40k is notoriously inconsistent and struggles with scale
@shikatsu5 жыл бұрын
Guilliman's mom should have become an imperial saint and show back up to keep him humble, I mean then there is the part she stares down The Night Haunter.
@Aurora-3135 жыл бұрын
Living Saint Euten... I can dig it. It'd be interesting to see a Living Saint dedicated to administration and being the Primarch's ear.
@ElectromagNick5 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine, following the Lion waking up (because he is almost certainly the next), he and Guilliman are arguing about how to fix the broken-to-hell-in-a-hand-grenade Imperium, Euten shows up wreathed in a golden light and just stares them down until they both just stop and apologize like scolded children. Because you know she would.
@SemiOmni3145 жыл бұрын
@@Aurora-313 I don't think Guilliman would take it well if his mom started believing that his father was a God
@Aurora-3135 жыл бұрын
@@SemiOmni314 probably not. Hell. I was listening to Unremembered Empire yesterday and she was chastising the FIRST MASTER for thinking that Guilliman was utterly infallible. This tiny frail woman put the Highest Ranking Ultramarine (after the Tetrarch) in his place with a five minute verbal bitch slap. And likely would have continued to do so had one of Guilliman's adjutants not guided her away. I think her brand of Verbal beatdowns are sorely lacking in 41k. Imagine her verse Fratier Matthieu. I'd put serious money that not only would she win, but Guilliman would bring popcorn for the show.
@Ower8x4 жыл бұрын
@@Aurora-313 that would be a sight to see ...
@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind3 жыл бұрын
The Lion is the right son to conquer an empire. Robute is the right son to build the empire. Rogal is the best to fortify the empire. Sanguinius (blessed be my sons name) is the right son to rule the empire.
@joeford5181 Жыл бұрын
Lorgar is the right son to be a punching bag
@DylanJo1236 ай бұрын
Blessed be the Angel of the Imperium and the Emperor's greatest son
@dynamicheatwave994927 күн бұрын
@@joeford5181 i just feel sorry for him. he's kinda pathetic
@joeford518127 күн бұрын
@@dynamicheatwave9949 Pathetic is an understatement
@VedaRa5015 жыл бұрын
I really liked to conversation between Guilliman and Euten, it really shows how she is like his mother. Like Konrad Curze said later in the book because she helped raise Guilliman he is the only Primarch to have a "mother".
@dadagan88155 жыл бұрын
1:50 Yeah and I bet Euten is "the only" human that could call a Primarch a "Foolish Boy" That is one hell of a privilege.
@Tacoguy10005 жыл бұрын
@@dadagan8815 An underestimated power.
@AdeptKing5 жыл бұрын
Didn't some of the other Primarchs have parents, like Sanguinies for example? Or is it just that Guilliman is the only one who saw his adoptive parents as parents?
@darthkai36215 жыл бұрын
@@AdeptKing knowing Vulkan, he must've loved his adopted parents
@akiramasashi93175 жыл бұрын
@@dadagan8815 Yeah, remember what happened when Malcador called Horus "boy"? And that was *MALCADOR!*
@G.SPIES245 жыл бұрын
Ive gained a deeper respect for the Primarch's due to this channel. Now as a result I'm giving different chapters I wasn't initially intrigued by another look. Thanks Wolf Lord Rho.
@wolflordrho5 жыл бұрын
That's the great thing about the black library books. They help us see more of the legends. Works great particularly with the Primarchs!
@gunslinger18244 жыл бұрын
Wolf Lord Rho Why were there Space Wolves with Guilliman?
@marcuscordova57174 жыл бұрын
@@gunslinger1824 I want to know the same thing
@GazNixon4 жыл бұрын
@@marcuscordova5717 Leman Russ sent a watch pack to keep watch on each of the primarchs for signs of chaos taint, and then eliminate them, call for help. Some of them got brutally done over when they arrived to certain chapters (Night Lords)
@marcuscordova57174 жыл бұрын
@@GazNixon I appreciate the time you have given for the information.
@Jamhael15 жыл бұрын
Imagine the Lion and Guilliman in a heated discussion, then Euton appears, and she speaks: "Stop arguing this instant, or you will get no cookies after dinner" The Lion looks baffled that this little woman dared to speak to him that way, but he is more surprised when he sees Guilliman ashamed, hands behind his back, head bowed and with a pout he says: "Yes, mom. Sorry..."
@ShadowGhost01174 жыл бұрын
Leonardo Rocha that would be hilarious and heartwarming to see. I like how Euton helps to bring out the more human side of Guilliman.
@andor64014 жыл бұрын
@Afqwa this is my head cannon now . I don't even care
@Aurora-3133 жыл бұрын
Guilliman: Ma'am. Not in front of my big brother!
@setaripantheon88013 жыл бұрын
'Stupid mom didn't cut the crust of my breakfast sandwiches and now this.. In front of big brother... Arg!'
@leatcanned3 жыл бұрын
@@setaripantheon8801 I understand your trying to make him look cute. oddly it makes him seem petulant.
@Nerd_Father5 жыл бұрын
That is a great scene. I feel the Lion has been written very differently from book to book. This was my favorite portrayal of him. I love that he embraced Robby. It contributes to the idea that the Lion may be socially awkward, but he is not a machine. He cares for others, at least some others, but is not sure how to interact with people. Other depictions of him, I think, go too far into uncaring machine territory. I found the description of him as not understanding his underlings or their capabilities hard to swallow. How can you be one of the best generals ever and not know what your people can do?
@Archon39605 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the Lion... " matured " since then - for lack of a better word. :/
@BUSSTISEBOOST5 жыл бұрын
Much like Perturabo. Best Idea of him is Angel Exterminatus, he moved forward because he chose the path ahead and there is no turning back.
@mikebott69405 жыл бұрын
There's a very popular variation on this- making the rounds of the internets- and one that I happen to like a lot: The Lion is correctly suspicious of the ambition and potential for evil in his brothers, and feels there's nobody he can properly bond with. This shows more social acumen than he's usually credited with.
@wingwangtingtang4 жыл бұрын
I find that he's mostly portrayed as a stiff unbending dick head haha
@frocat51634 жыл бұрын
The Lion has Asperger's Syndrome... I think most people who are able to write him well have some understanding of that.
@battle-brotherthiel15635 жыл бұрын
I treasured every moment Guilliman and Euten interact. You can even see in the stern Guilliman a glimpse of warmth and tenderness each time he addressed her
@commissarlugh10405 жыл бұрын
THIS! THIS IS HOW THE LION SHOULD BE WRITTEN!
@CRYSTALwave1174 жыл бұрын
i feel like descent of the angels did a good job
@gavinminty49744 жыл бұрын
There is a theory that the Lion is like a Mirror. Other Primarchs see in him their own insecurities reflected back. This helps explain why his depictions are so different.
@Jatischar4 жыл бұрын
@@gavinminty4974 more likely that differend authors just have different takes on him. He one of those Primarchs that are harder to write then some others. His characterisation has for the longest time just been "not sharing his secrets" "being quiet". Not a whole lot to go on.
@taxidrivercarl60745 жыл бұрын
I think Robute is far more sensitive than the lore has let on. There are examples - his encounter with Kor Phaeron, his thoughts about Konor where he just misses his dad. I think even his dedication to organisational skill could be a way to compensate for the deep wellspring of feelings he truly experienced. Guilliman had a mother figure, rare for the Primarchs. Feudal Lord meets the Democratic Leader. I love how similar they are yet reach such different results
@boxy2k85 жыл бұрын
The Lion, being a stone cold badass as per usual, polite, but tactful and watchful. We really need the Lion at the head of the Unforgiven.
@plaski11145 жыл бұрын
To me Lion is a huge as-hole, HE is up there along with: arch douchebag Horus, Lorgar, Corfaeron and Erebus in contest for biggest as-holes in galaxy. He almost killed Sanguinius on Davin, lied like crazy to everyone hes entire life, treated hes foster father like garbage after discovery by Emperor which led to destruction of Caliban, vendetta against Conrad Kurze through Ultramar coused countless millions of dead. Simply put it the only reason Lion didn't followed Horus is that he was TO PROUD and FULL OF HIMSELF and resented Warmaster title not being given to him the most of all Primarchs. Dark Angels was the only legion that was near Lunar Wolves\Sons of Horus military achievements level and amount of space conquered and put to compliance.
@94EyeEagle5 жыл бұрын
@@plaski1114 to be fair, on the way to Davin, the Lion, Gulliman, and Sangiunius all got bamboozled by the warp
@plaski11145 жыл бұрын
@@94EyeEagle True cant deny that but still Lion was a dick :) to both Guiliman and Sanguinius but that was hes character i suppose introvert that doesn't trust anyone. Imagine what would happen if he told papa smurf that he has Kurze inside hes flag ship, many problems would be avoided, like the drop assault (it looked like this from smurf perspective) order that almost got wiped out by McCrags AA defence triggered by Kurze.
@nananyarko96825 жыл бұрын
@@plaski1114 "the only reason lion didint follow horus is that he is too proud and full of himself" this state ment is completely ridiculous if you take into account the lions lore. 1. He hates the warp; he was exposed to chaos at an age much earlier and directly than all of his brothers he knows not to trust chaos ; And he hates his fallen brothers for getting corrupted so easily. 2 "Loyalty is its own reward". The lion didint care much about being war master he only cares to serve the imperium its as simple as that. Hell he even kept kurze alive for the emperors sake. Had the dark angels and the Lion joined horus I belive the imperium would have lost the heresy completely, the lion has a right to be arrogant he is the eldest brother and his legion expertise , and actions were the back bone of the imperiums victory and thats a fact. Also he did not treat his foster father like garbage , infact its quite the opposite. Luther took the time to contemplate letting a nuclear device go off and kill the lion out of jealousy. Now, if any other primarch had found out they would have killed luther on the spot; but what did the lion do? He spared him and exiled him to calban and entrusted the future of his *entire* legion to him, while the lion never vocalised this he did this out of love which I think is amazing.
@srmf44955 жыл бұрын
@@nananyarko9682 I second this, I honestly think the Lion cared too much, however my worry would be if he did return he would lose that side of him and truly become the machine of death everyone sees him as
@Aurora-3135 жыл бұрын
Im not going to lie, I think its super cute how Guilliman refer to the Lion as 'My Big Brother' to Euten. Its tiny, but I love those human moments between the Primarchs. Despite everything, they are siblings - and I find it incredibly precious.
@sterasigma87344 жыл бұрын
Ultramarine: We feel inferior to the Dark Angels because they are the first legion to serve the Emperor. Guilliman: Daddy's home. Dark Angels: We are jealous of those mineral pigments because their dad's back while our dad is sleeping his ass off like the galaxy is not on fire.
@Watcher-in-the-Dark4 жыл бұрын
Look you gotta get your beauty rest or else Chaos wins. Simple as that!
@sterasigma87344 жыл бұрын
@Dionysus’ Grapes Yeah, we have an annual holiday dedicated to the oh-so-perfect Sanguinius. At least you got a holiday out of it, which is something the sons of Medusa cannot say.
@PumpkinHoard3 жыл бұрын
@@sterasigma8734 All you got was a ghost that constantly reminds you of your weakness....
I will give the Lion this... He knows how to make an ENTRANCE with his lads!
@MajesticDemonLord5 жыл бұрын
One of the most Badass characters in the 40k Universe, being verbally demolished by Euten. It makes you think what the other primarchs would have turned out like, if they had someone to metaphorically clip them around the ear.
@Nyctophora5 жыл бұрын
It would have made a great difference if they'd all had a mum like Euten!
@LordCommander-ui2fw3 жыл бұрын
@@Nyctophora Tell me about it. This is why it's just as important for a child to have a maternal figure in addition to a paternal one.
@PeachDragon_3 жыл бұрын
Angron would be like vulkan if he had a mother like euten
@LordCommander-ui2fw3 жыл бұрын
@@PeachDragon_ I've heard that his intended role before the Butcher's Nails was hammered into his brain was to serve as the glue that kept his brothers together; Angron's power was supposed to be empathy. Which is another one of the great tragedies of the Imperial Household, that such an untapped reservoir of love and joy became twisted into an unlimited source of hatred and pain.
@kingbaldwiniv54095 жыл бұрын
I am a First Legion guy. The Lion all the way. I have the audio of this book and this is my favorite part to replay. The meeting tells you SO much about the two primarchs. Roboute felt that he needed to justify himself to the Lion, that he was overshadowed by him. The Lion had legitimate affection for Guilliman, but was willing to "burn and splinter Macragge" if necessary. The Lion did not ever build HIS own empire, it was all for his father. Guilliman saw the 500 worlds as his own, an issue of vanity. I like Roboute, but the Lion is my guy.
@Catonzo4 жыл бұрын
There's so much of WH40k (or 30k as it would be) that I do not know and probably even more things I have misunderstood; however didn't Guilliman practically crown Sanguinius as the rightful heir of Imperium Secundus? That particular picture used where he holds Sanguinius' hand raised with his own. If I am right about how I understand that one, this also means he considers Sanguinius as the rightful heir of ALL of the Imperium should something happen to their father. Macragge is under Guilliman's rule, but he is no king/emperor. He is a General or Lord. A Primarch. Second only to the Emperor of Mankind OR the Warmaster who acts in his stead. I don't think Guilliman displays a whole lot of vanity in the ways of owning his own worlds. All of it belongs to the Emperor.
@kingbaldwiniv54094 жыл бұрын
@@Catonzo, Guilliman and the Lion both were, in the absence of their father, willing to settle on Sanguinius as a trustworthy compromise. In this very book, Guilliman says that it was HIS empire, the 500 worlds, though he would never say it out loud. Besides, with the Lion present, who Guilliman admits to feeling overshadowed by, he couldn't take the crown of the Emperor himself but he was willing to give it to the Lion until a 3rd, more preferrable option appeared. Thing that makes it vanity is that even when he had agreed to grant the throne of Imperium Secundus to Sanguinius, he kept assuming back authority. Sanguinius had to correct him a number of times. In one such outburst, he broke the Lionsword. I think that the case is made fairly well between The Unremembered Empire, Angels of Caliban, and Pharos. I think that Guilliman is both good and noble, but he is not perfect. He becomes attached to his creations, positions, and institutions. David Annandale points this out well in Guilliman's primarch novel.
@sonicsucks202 жыл бұрын
Lion was all about supporting Bobby, he wouldnt hurt his own brothers empire.
@johnfraire69315 жыл бұрын
The Lion is the kind of guy that comments "First"
@kelman7275 жыл бұрын
John Fraire You mean he’s a dick.
@rbd65025 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-xv9du 4chan not reddit? cause fkers on 4chan can find which burger king someone works at just from a barcode to get them fired.
@gunslinger18245 жыл бұрын
Why were the wolves with Guilliman?
@martinprince77734 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂👍
@robertoleary54704 жыл бұрын
Gunslinger they were probably cut off by the ruin storm
@tuor80875 жыл бұрын
Easy to understand why Guilliman is so beloved by many. Can't imagine many of the Primarchs allowing such an exchange with one of their subordinates. Definitely going to order this book.
@AdeptKing4 жыл бұрын
Tuor 80 you mean Euten? She's basically his mom.
@PeachDragon_3 жыл бұрын
"Chapter master Calgar may i please take command of the operation at hand?" It's not the exact quote but it's still what made me love him, he ASKED his chapter master if he could take command, no other primarch would ask, not even vulkan.
@marmite_popsicle2 жыл бұрын
@@AdeptKing true. but OP isnt wrong either. guilliman does have such interactions with many people. it humanises him so much!
@porphyrienne5 жыл бұрын
Its great to see Guilliman be like a shaken younger brother. He's relatable.
@bjornthefell-handed31245 жыл бұрын
As a history buff, I love some of the historical references in Warhammer 40,000. When the Wolves follow Guilliman and he says "you're making me looking like a chieftain of Illyrium." Illyria (later Illyricum) was a region north-east of Italy which was filled was barbaric peoples who frequently practised piracy and raiding.
@kingbaldwiniv54095 жыл бұрын
The Wolves are the Varangian Guard of the Emperors of Constantinople. The first knightly order was the Hospitaller Order, like the 1st Legion, they wore black until a later color swap.
@TheEyez1875 жыл бұрын
40K's full of historical reference, which is what helps fill it out and bring it to life! There's references to many of the great and powerful empires and armies, Roman, Greek, Persian, Viking, Anglo-Saxon, Sarmatian; with the Roman connection I guess being the most common. The Astartes is taken from the Roman "Hastati", the front line, the spear-tip of the Roman army, still wielding Gladius'. There are countless nods to little things like this, which as a fellow historian, more specifically archaeologist, really appeals to me! Even in the far, grim dark future, mankind cannot escape its past! :D
@kingbaldwiniv54095 жыл бұрын
@@TheEyez187, we history minded sorts are a bit "that way", aren't we. I particularly liked the Polish reference in Legion by Dan Abnett. They even used the old ranks and names.
@TheEyez1875 жыл бұрын
@@kingbaldwiniv5409 Indeed, "that way" is the best way! Predoo Whilst Rome considered many other people's as barbarians, uncivilized and barbaric. The term "Barbarian", originally coined by the Greeks and later adopted by the Romans, referred to anyone who didn't speak Greek or Latin; in reference to the babbling they heard when said people's spoke their own language and appeared to be going Bar bar bar or blah blah blah; strange but true! :D
@kingbaldwiniv54095 жыл бұрын
@@TheEyez187, I am familiar with it sir! Don't worry, those of us that seek out this sort of history learn a lot of the same things because of our motivations and sources. I am on a museum's board of directors and do most of the classes and tours. I appreciate archaeologists, but one paleontology class is as far as I got.
@jacksonbowns10875 жыл бұрын
It's still funny to me that most people forget that the original Dark Angels color scheme was black, rather than their current green, red, and white.
@justiceforjoggers28975 жыл бұрын
I was incredibly confused, as I didn't know they changed colors like a dolt
@aidanker-foz65114 жыл бұрын
God I miss that black
@messageinthebottle16733 жыл бұрын
To be fair that color still lives on, with the dark angel raven company.
@colem.25843 жыл бұрын
@@aidanker-foz6511 my custom dark angels successor is still the good Ol black scheme
@reedread93002 жыл бұрын
@@messageinthebottle1673 one of their canon successor chapters still maintains their of colour scheme as well as ancient suits of power armour and a heavenfall blade
@helios00745 жыл бұрын
Unremembered Empire is probably my favourite book of the series. Know No Fear is almost as good, both being fantastic "redemption" for the Ultramarines and Guilliman after the stupidity and damage Matt Ward did to them. There is so much of it that is fantastic. Euten is an amazing character, the Watch Pack are hilarious and badass with their fight against Curze, Vulkan's insanity, the Alpha Legion assassination attempt, Guilliman's humanity opened up, Curze vs The Lion and Guilliman - Abnett is one of, if not the best, writers of the series. I hope you also do a video of the Primarchs discussion in the special room a bit later in the book. That's a great scene about all the Primarchs as well.
@kassthered84525 жыл бұрын
Does all this happen in Unremembered Empire?
@helios00745 жыл бұрын
@@kassthered8452 Absolutely. As I said, one of the best books in the series.
@jameswilliam91765 жыл бұрын
@Helios007 'after the stupidity and damage Matt Ward did to them' - how did Matt Ward make them appear?
@smilingbandit69005 жыл бұрын
@@jameswilliam9176 like ultra smurfs.^^
@sarnicholas40534 жыл бұрын
By the God-Emperor. Tarasha Euten is a treasure. [Spoilers ahead] That the Wolves of Faffnr Bludbroder and the Primarch of the Salamanders risked and gladly gave their lives for her (some quite a few times...) is no mystery to me.
@Tiglath-Pileser35 жыл бұрын
The First. So precise that they can make the master of the Ultramarines envious. Think about that. The Ultramarines, held up as the paragon of all things Space Marine, get out Space Marined. Even over Sanguinious, Guilliman looks up to Lion. Adds more to the speculation that The Lion may have been named warmaster, had he been found before Horus. But we also see a bit of Lion's flaw. He shows respect for Guilliman by showing perfection. He probably would have done the same, had he visited Fulgrim. But while Guilliman showed admiration, bordering on envy, Fulgrim would have showed envy, bordering on rage. But this is also a wiser Lion. One who had started to understand betrayal, and started to prepare for the unexpected. He is absolutely correct to have the legion on standby. To keep Curze a secret. This is a Lion who follows the "trust, but verify" doctrine. I sincerely hope Lion is the next to return to 40k. I think it creates interesting interplay. A chapter that has some suspicion around them, led by someone Guilliman respects more than anyone other than The Emperor. But The Lion has been burned by betrayal. How much can Johnson allow himself to trust his brother? Will doubtful 40k Guilliman become overly deferential to the one loyalist primarch he truly feels is beyond him? Will Lion be wise enough to realize that Guilliman covers some of his own weaknesses?
@chaptermastermarneuscalgar69265 жыл бұрын
The Lions biggest flaw is the fact he just doesn't really that good at interacting or judging other people, this flaw led to the Dark Angels Legion being torn in half because the Lion banished Luther back to Caliban. This flaw is highlighted in one perticular scene in the Fallen Angels book where a Dark Angel called Namiel comes to the realisation that it was actually Luther who was the one who united the Knightly Orders on Caliban after having doubts about the Lion when the Lion asked for his opinion on the Imperial Govenor and Mechanicum reprisentive of the planet Diamat.
@Tiglath-Pileser35 жыл бұрын
@@chaptermastermarneuscalgar6926 Right. He's almost like an advanced AI, trying to use intelligence to appear to be human. But he just doesn't have the frame of reference. He will try to be human, but will never quite get it. And that inability to relate leads to an inability to read, which justifies his caution. But I think that makes him dangerous, and effective. He's almost a psychopath in that regard. He can reach pragmatic decisions, without much humanity getting in the way. He can embrace the cold calculus of battle more easily than some of his brothers.
@gyozamoney59095 жыл бұрын
@@Tiglath-Pileser3 That's true. I think it was him who wanted to bomb calth from orbit just to get curze out. He doesn't care about the means just the end.
@wizard03135 жыл бұрын
The Lion was found before Horus, hence the first legion, no?
@Tiglath-Pileser35 жыл бұрын
@@wizard0313 No. The legion that would later be called The Dark Angels were the first to be made. The legion is still often called The First. But Horus was the first discovered, after Chaos had scattered the primarchs.
@user-xk9gw1gf8c5 жыл бұрын
There are a few things to consider in this passage. It is hinted at here that the Dark Angels helped wipe out (almost all) the Thunder Warriors when their time was over. This does also play into their secretive nature. I did see it written somewhere that although both Guilliman and The Lion were loyal, their loyalty was different. Guilliman was loyal to the Imperium as an ideal whereas The Lion was loyal only to the Emperor. The Space Wolf feud scene to ruin all the formality was also pretty cool. The wolves actually top this moment later in the novel when they fight Curze for real to protect Guilliman's mother.
@onesandzeroes73905 жыл бұрын
This book is fantastic, and the space wolves steal the show!
@jimvenanzio65614 жыл бұрын
They might have lost the Honor duel with The Lion, but they did pretty much end up trolling everybody. That victory was far greater and more outstanding than the Honor duel could have been.
@vinayvenkatram85353 жыл бұрын
Their loyalty differed ? One to the Emperor and another tot he Imperium ? The Emperor is the Imperium. For all his shortcomings, and misinterpretations, the Emperor loves all of mankind and sees them all as his children.
@joefloggg32572 жыл бұрын
So the Space Corgies saved RG's mom. Not bad for a bunch of furries
@CountingStars3332 жыл бұрын
@@vinayvenkatram8535 propaganda of the corpse god
@TotallyNotJustCynical4 жыл бұрын
I actually love how Guilliman is typically portrayed as a cool and collected commander and builder of empires but on a personal level there are so many things that upset him, make him feel envious or otherwise get on his mind just like normal person.
@Haloister4 жыл бұрын
2 Minutes in and I'm reminded why Guillimom is best mom
@19Crusader915 жыл бұрын
At this point when the Lion returns i just want Bobby G to go hug the Lion and say: Im happy to have you back brother.
@kingbaldwiniv54095 жыл бұрын
Hell yes!
@AdeptKing4 жыл бұрын
It might be funny. Since the Lion is probably going to come in and be like "Guilliman I am here to make sure you are not taking over from father and-" "Brother!" Guilliman just hugs him and the Lion is just standing their awkwardly.
@19Crusader914 жыл бұрын
@@AdeptKing Im pretty sure he did the hug to phycisally check Guillyman if he has any physical muation (the clear sign of Chaos muation). It would be a really nice comeback.
@jeffthemercenary3 жыл бұрын
@@AdeptKing like Vulkan to most people
@Ashtor13373 жыл бұрын
@@AdeptKing , he did it all ready.
@SvenTviking5 жыл бұрын
“Bob mate!” “Lionel, long time no crusading! How’s the chapter?”
@Lukey24814 жыл бұрын
Oh. An Australian wrote the book...
@Warlordalexi4 жыл бұрын
Oh if only haha. Imagine if that was their first greeting to one another.
@JJumper88884 жыл бұрын
@@Warlordalexi I would piss me bloody arse of from laughter xD
@setaripantheon88013 жыл бұрын
@@Lukey2481 'na mate, not talking about that ya know Bob' 'fair enough Lionel, a cold one and kangaroo skewers? While we tag along to The Fortress of Hera' 'Yeeea mate!' 'Noice mate!' 'yeeah' 'yeeah'
@Aurora-3133 жыл бұрын
@@setaripantheon8801 I like to believe that in some parallels world, this is precisely the exchange they had. In thick outback accents too.
@JoeMFTorres Жыл бұрын
And now for the reunion
@MrKago15 жыл бұрын
"you're a pain in the ass, you know that." as if we would want our Vlka Fenryka any other way.
@PeachDragon_3 жыл бұрын
The lion just really really wants to be the big brother he's supposed to be, i can relate to that.
@Cornerboy735 жыл бұрын
I had a rare chuckle at the exchange between the wolves and Rob on the staircase. As for Rob and the Lion; I actually found Rob's personal feelings... well, kind of charming really. I also agree that the Lion has become a marquis player in the series; his appearances pop off the pages for me and he's 'leveled-up' for lack of a better term as the years have gone by in terms of his character development and abilities. I hope we see him soon in 40k
@Anton-cc7yc5 жыл бұрын
It is most interesting thought: Guilliman thinking that Lion is better then him, overshadowing him. How will he feel when his brother return in M42? He is now second only to the Emperor in modern Imperium, and with Lion’s return, will he feel jealous? Or relieved? Or even both?
@Buhlmanzky5 жыл бұрын
I think he will only feel relieved,also i think that Guiliman is overthinking,The Lion had MANY issues that Guiliman does not have,things that make Guiliman a far better commander and leader...The Lion was stuck up,could not let a grudge go,always thought he was in the right,and at a few situations he flew into a rage that was like that of Perturabo,The Lion even killed a Dark Angel out of rage,something that Guiliman would never do. Even Malcador said that The Lion was apart from his brothers because he was always watching and scheming,he was a primarch,sure,but not a very inspiring leader.
@calumknight91785 жыл бұрын
@@Buhlmanzky That is because the lion was "designed" to have all the traits of the other primarch..... He has all their flaws and all their strengths. Not excelling at anything he is a jack of all trades (well supposed to be, his personality will ultimately have affected a lot of the other traits but that was shaped in solitude in the wilds of caliban had he been raised by the emperor as intended his personality may have been very different). He was the prototype for all the other primarchs as his legion was the prototype for all the others they didn't excel at anything. Its prob where guilleman got the idea of making the space marine chapters adaptable to any situation when he wrote the astartes codex.
@gama3435 жыл бұрын
@@Buhlmanzky You say Guiliman is a better commander and leader, but The Lion achieved far more during the Great Crusade with far fewer soldiers in less time. Guiliman is the tactician of the primarchs, The Lion is the strategist. As for being an uninspiring leader, consider that Guiliman looks up to him, that Astartes from other legions feel the urge to kneel in front of him when they feel they need to merely bow to their own primarchs.
@kingbaldwiniv54095 жыл бұрын
The Lion was the MOST inspiring primarch and best warlord. Guilliman marked the Lion as outshining him. Horus only cared about beating out the Lion for Warmaster. Typhon felt an urge to kneel to Horus, but was overwhelmed by the need to kneel to the Lion. Russ thought that the Lion would be one of the two with the most conquests. That was WITH the sidebar in the Rangdan Xenocide. Magnus said the Lion had the "heart of a scholar", high praise from the Crimson King. Russ noted that the Lion had a lot of friends on Terra and did well in the Imperial Court. The Lion was as good or better than any of his brothers in strategy, tactics, and gamesmanship. He fooled Khyros Fateweaver, pulled truth from Curze, and plays multi-dimensional chess in Dreadwing. The Lion is the best of the primarchs.
@_Cato_5 жыл бұрын
Anton TK Relieved for sure. He isn't prideful and Lion's return would only help the struggling Imperium. Bobby G needs all the demigod help he can get.
@deidara99965 жыл бұрын
Honestly what I love the most about this is these stories of Guilliman compared to how he is now, how much a man like him changed
@Draper8115 жыл бұрын
This is the First lore video across many channels, that made me order this book. Fucking well done sir. The insight you brought forth, man gotta read this now. Thanks!
@SuperUniverse4 жыл бұрын
When your space marine nanny calls you a foolish boy. You know the primarches are still human at heart.
@TherealSBlair5 жыл бұрын
Love how you go into the personality of the Primarchs, what made them who they were and some insight into what they became and why. Lots of food for thought. Well done.
@EpicChaosLord Жыл бұрын
The Lion Awakes!
@patricklioneljonson27475 жыл бұрын
This book almost proves that The Lion was second to Horus for the Warmaster title.
@trollex10005 жыл бұрын
Doesent really matter . Horus fell becaouse of pride . Nou imagine the Lion warmaster with the over inflated ego
@helios00745 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. Military wise, yes, he was one of, if not the best. But in terms of the other responsibilities, he was left in the dirt. I think Sanguinius was the only other Primarch that would have had any chance to take it.
@danceswithgerbals15 жыл бұрын
@@helios0074 I agree. While I am a huge Lion fan and he is easily my favorite Primarch (been playing Dark Angels table top since their launch), he would not have done well as the Warmaster. In one of the first Horus Heresy books, I forget which one since they came out so long ago, it is stated that one of the main reasons Horus was chosen as Warmaster, was not only was he the favorite son, but he also was the only Primarch to completely share the Emperors vision of a united humanity (minus the knowledge of what the Emperor was trying to do to the Chaos Gods). Horus Pre-Quad-Chaos-God-Empowering would probably have been beaten by the Lion and his Legion in an all out war, possibly even easily, but where the Lion was amazing in one arena (war/fighting) he was woefully lacking in loads of other areas that are necessary for rule and empire building. The Lion had no charisma, relatively no ability to bring a world into the Imperium unless it was with war, he had a great amount of pride as well, and socially was inept when compared with others like Horus, Guilliman, and Sanguinius. The Lion could probably take them all in a war, but the Emperor wasn't looking for a scorched earth plan for the galaxy. He wanted unity. He ultimately wanted peace. He wanted worlds to willingly submit to the Imperium without conquering them, but war would suffice if they refused. Now if the Warmaster was just the one in control of the military he would easily be the best choice. If they divided the tasks among the Primarchs, the Lion's task would be head general. Sanguinius could have been the "Leader", the Lion could conquer for the Imperium, Guilliman could build/ be in charge of diplomacy, and Dorn could defend it. As it was the Warmaster was in charge under the Emperor so he kinda had all those parts to himself and only having one out of four necessary skills (maybe two because the Lion could defend via slaughtering any attackers), is not a good enough skill ratio for the presiding ruler of Primarchs.
@emirhaneksioglu45035 жыл бұрын
@@danceswithgerbals1 Lion had no charisma, we are talking about a primarch here, chap. I agree on the other points though. That being said Lion was not Angron and his World Eaters. Even if he secured a planet through conquest he wouldn't have done it in a way that it'd leave it in ruin. He was smarter than that.
@danceswithgerbals15 жыл бұрын
@@emirhaneksioglu4503 I am unsure what you are claiming because I mentioned that, "...where the Lion was amazing in one arena (war/fighting) he was woefully lacking in loads of other areas that are necessary for rule and empire building. _The Lion had no charisma,_ relatively no ability to bring a world into the Imperium unless it was with war, he had a great amount of pride as well, and socially was inept when compared with others like Horus, Guilliman, and Sanguinius." So we agree on that. And ya he never leveled civilizations to the ground because he was far to superb a commander to need to that, which my scorched earth mention referred more to going to war for every planet as opposed to just wiping out 90% of each planet.
@l.greenwood80965 жыл бұрын
The Lion is proud. And has reason to be.
@snakeyman55604 жыл бұрын
FOR THE LION!
@ramsuryaprasath13813 жыл бұрын
@@snakeyman5560 FOR THE EMPEROR......
@colem.25843 жыл бұрын
@@snakeyman5560 FOR THE LION!! AND FOR CALIBAN!!!
@Ashtor13373 жыл бұрын
Proud of half his chapter turning?
@postwar1422 жыл бұрын
@@Ashtor1337 As jealous as Papa Smurf, this one.
@Nononononon1114 жыл бұрын
The writing behind this work near brought me to tears it’s flawless
@crazysithslave5 жыл бұрын
Loved this meeting, the 1st legion was my fave from day 1, even before there was mention of the lion. The lion is my faveourite by far of the primarchs but I guess I am byassed being a dark angel tragic. His return would be huge and though I haven't collected or painted 40k figures for perhaps 20 years.... A new lion model may see me return 👍
@RCsev0704 жыл бұрын
I hope you've heard the good news, brother. Thou should check upcoming forgeworld models.
@jeffthemercenary3 жыл бұрын
Lion return will be next great event that happend in 40k the Chaos gods will probably do something like another black crusade
@Ownedyou Жыл бұрын
Oh man, sometime soon you will need to make a Part 2 of this video, this time in 40k.
@G1Arduo5 жыл бұрын
Also need to remember that when the primarchs were spirited away from their incubation chambers, they did not re-appear in their respective worlds at the same time. So in theory, the Lion may not have lived the longest years despite being the first in the incubation chambers.
@gama3435 жыл бұрын
Correct. Horus was found only a couple years into the Great Crusade, but the Lion was found something like 100-120 years in, despite only living for like 30 years on Caliban before being found.
@arthurrebello9193 жыл бұрын
marc_destroyer we don't know how long he spend on the magic chaos murder forest.
@HammarPwnsYourFace3 жыл бұрын
@@arthurrebello919 Magic chaos murder forests are the best! Hydra Dominatus, brothers.
@sergio96692 жыл бұрын
@@arthurrebello919 he still looked like a young boy so only a few years... that being said as seen with horus the way they age may vary from primarch to primarch
@thorpey0125 жыл бұрын
This book changed my preconceptions of Rowboat. I found he was nothing at all how I imagined he would be. In my head I had him down as a starchy, humourless jobsworth. But upon reading this novel I discovered that in fact he has a wry sense of humour and is deeply (although controlled) emotional.
@thandovanika89525 жыл бұрын
that how humanity in 40k sees him. However, he is much more entertaining to be around then you would expect. even his own sons in 40k believed he would be grimmer, but no he tells a joke more or less all the time.at least when no one is going to die.
@RobbSavag35 жыл бұрын
Will you do interactions between characters in the books? An example would be when that crippled blood angel walked with a custodian guard down to help protect the throne of terra and they passed normal civilians, the way they each treated them was huge. Please do videos on that!
@theunclethatdoesnttouchyou5 жыл бұрын
Which book was that?
@RockerDanM5 жыл бұрын
@@theunclethatdoesnttouchyou Master of Mankind
@theunclethatdoesnttouchyou5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@tacitronin49705 жыл бұрын
I love getting incite on how tall or large the Primachs are. The Lion is a bit taller than Bobby. Hope we get more as the Heresy plays out.
@neckutter5 жыл бұрын
The unremembered empire is such a great book. Long live Emperor Sanguinious!
@eskil53065 жыл бұрын
One shall not Doubt in the Lion. He's a Knight, He keeps his words, albeit he got Honor
@jayseddon75254 жыл бұрын
this is my favorite short about the lion. he's good and he knows it.
@dootdeedootdeedoo5 жыл бұрын
Honestly this universe and lore is as close to a masterpiece as it gets. I hope the quality increases. I've become nervous that the modern lore may get kinda rough.
@Nubi3245 жыл бұрын
Wolf Lord Rho your title does you great justice.. I want to say thank you for bringing the Primarchs to life and making them relatable . I've found myself more interested in getting to know more about them . Can't wait for your next upload
@timandshannon03 Жыл бұрын
As a proud Smurf player, I am excited that the Lion is coming back!!!!!!
@user-cq1cw8xz7f5 жыл бұрын
My lord! I have fallen in love with Dorne because of you, I salute thee
@templar93655 жыл бұрын
the lion was probably thinking that guilliman was building his own empire like malcador during the horus heresy.
@Aki777craft5 жыл бұрын
Miguel Angel Pabon Tritton the lion thought that? Why is that ? Was Malcador actually doing that?
@templar93655 жыл бұрын
@@Aki777craft search up for imperium secundus on google, i'm not an expert on the lore so i can't answer that question correctly
@Nyctophora5 жыл бұрын
Over all of the subtleties, though, I can't help but think it's a measuring contest.
@novashnova12324 жыл бұрын
I love hearing a Primarch swearing and talking like this, it honestly makes them more human.
@blazdevl5 жыл бұрын
Not a big fan of the ultra marine, but I do like Calgar and papa smurf. So much has been written about papa smurf, he is by far the most flash out primarch. In 30 and 40k I really enjoy his conversion with his trusted human advisor/friends.
@theannouncer55385 жыл бұрын
Lord of the first legion does have a nice ring to it
@David-li4uw Жыл бұрын
I love Lion. He is so awesome. He’s so imperfectly perfect for 30k/40k. He and RG have such great chemistry together. Can’t wait for their reunion in 40k.
@Matihood14 жыл бұрын
Ok so who is that lieutenant that talks to Guilliman like she was his girlfriend? It's really sweet.
@robertoleary54704 жыл бұрын
Matihood1 it’s his adoptive mom. From the time he was been raised on Macragge. She was the right hand of Conar, his farther
@jeffthemercenary3 жыл бұрын
Basically his mom
@jbfn14 Жыл бұрын
Looks like this one's gonna have a part 2
@shonnew3 жыл бұрын
Man I loved The banter with Ultramarines and Wolves.
@fenrirunshackled43192 жыл бұрын
You also have to respect the fact that Guilliman acknowledged that Fafnir likely would have actually taken his head with that strike. Given a prime opportunity a space marine actually can kill a primarch
@TheShepherd23054 жыл бұрын
I think, in the current timeline, if The Lion returned and met Guiliman that Guiliman, even with his controlled emotions nature, would embrace Lion like the Lion embraced him in this novel. I imagine the reaction would the the same just reversed. Guiliman being more loving and Lion being caught off guard by Guiliman actually showing emotion. I would really love to read that meeting and by the look of things the Lion may be returning soon.
@logandelaharpe6362 Жыл бұрын
Well it was three year but he’s here
@Gnarlf Жыл бұрын
10.000 years, 10.003 years. Close enough I say. Can't wait to get that book into my hands at last. If thw writing is up to the standard of this model, we are in for a treat.
@TheShepherd2305 Жыл бұрын
@@Gnarlf He's finally here!!!!
@TheShepherd2305 Жыл бұрын
@@logandelaharpe6362 Took long enough but he's finally here!!!
@Gnarlf Жыл бұрын
@@TheShepherd2305 yeah, I've noticed
@thebushwacker5 жыл бұрын
Keep the stories coming! Thanks for doing them they are great
@asaenvolk5 жыл бұрын
What I find interesting is how so many doubted Gilliman, not just Jonson.
@cypherfavoredsonofmalal76265 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great content... these are the best videos you've done (that I have seen) but I am hardcore biased for my old 40k army. Dark Angels have my favorite primarch and my favorite traitor (Cypher).
@icono28235 жыл бұрын
Nous sommes venus, nous sommes la mort !! (We came, we're death !!) Great channel, my lord !!
@judesheckelberg5135 Жыл бұрын
The real Lion Week has arrived!
@njerumugo68917 ай бұрын
My favorite video. The meeting of these two brothers, it's epic. Roboute humor adds a unique dimension to his character its fantastic. Great background music choice doesn't overshadow or drown the meeting, buts builds upon it. A sense of calm before the storm of horus siege.
@XIIIUDSP2 жыл бұрын
I have listened to you wolf lord for some time but I do fine I re listen to this video a lot. I love how Guillemin is called jarl and how the Lion puts a wolf on his arse =D
@SanktBeautancus5 жыл бұрын
Maybe my favorite video so far, barring Dorn vs. Alpharius. You've truly done the books and lore justice with this channel, no telling how many sales you've netted Black Library. Huzzah good sir, huzzah.
@V0IV0DE2 жыл бұрын
We are waiting for the Lion's return for that Tour and Inspection.
@azrael10453 жыл бұрын
Loyalty is it's own reward
@atilax64525 жыл бұрын
Hey Rho. Really digging your channel. Glad I sub'd. Excellent stuff.
@thenoseplays2488 Жыл бұрын
He was now only a few paces away. The lion stopped short and removed his helm. He watches as his brother did the same, pulling the blue helmet of the ultramarines tight to his side. He bowed his head in acknowledgment as he closed the final few paces between them. There could be no doubt, this was his brother. The Lion could now see the heaviness in his face and eyes. Weariness? Perhaps. This new imperium they have both found themselves thrust into was indeed burdensome place. Or was it weariness of the lion himself. Why him. Why this brother and not another? Why the Lion, the one whom was banished for his secrets. He shook the notion from his mind. They were nearly face to face now, and as ElJhonson prepared to speak, his words became stuck in his throat, he felt a pain in his chest. The pain of regret. The pain of failure. The pain of bonds broken that had not yet been mended. The lion stopped short of his brother. He could see the sadness in Roboute's eyes, but also the fire that only the eyes of a primarch could hold. His mind was now racing, desperately searching for the right words to say, he had never been as good a statesman as his brother for whom these things seem to flow naturally. He feigned a cough as if clearing his throat, now barely holding his classic stoic and aloof gaze that had served him all his life. And then it happend. The great winged helm he held at his waist was now tumbling in slow motion Before him. His brother, without a word or sound, and without even the Lions exemplary reflexes allowed to react, embraced him with such force that this time it was the Lions helm that was dislodged from his grip. He winced at first at the sounds of his helmet rolling and clanking off the ceremite floor, but the strength of the embrace he now found himself in said everything that was needed to be said between them. Relief washed over him, and the Lion replied with an embrace of his own. One befitting a Lion of the first. And as they each pulled back Guiliman smiled for the first time since their eyes met. He looked down at the Lions helmet and bent over to pick it up. As he rose to hand it back to his brother so spoke for the first time. "Your getting slow old man." Said Guilliman with a smirk. The lion roared in laughter, the memory of their last meeting brushing his mind. "Perhaps I am, " he let his response hang..." but I'm still faster than Angron." Robute's face darkened if only for a moment at the mention of his traitorous brothers foul name. Then placing a hand on the Lions shoulder he said " Now that brother, is a story I must hear."
@ipeter74725 жыл бұрын
I have no one to talk to about 40k and this channel helps that deficiency. My wife appreciates it lol. Thank you if you had a patron I would give at least something.
@anthonyjordanmoviesandmore2470 Жыл бұрын
The way giliman tells fafnir he's a pain I get the feeling he means it with affection
@riftie76815 жыл бұрын
Loved this video and glad you find the lion as amazing as I do :)
@roscoparker19205 жыл бұрын
Wonderful storytelling, so glad someone playing Deathwing told me to seek your channel out.
@wolflordrho5 жыл бұрын
That’s nice to hear!
@squallrulz205 жыл бұрын
i find the content on this channel interesting, i just hope its not hit with copyright for quoting some books
@dreamcastuk12365 жыл бұрын
Gimme more vids on the lion /dark angels/the fallen this was a great vid m8
@williamamely70385 жыл бұрын
After listening to this exchange between Guilliman and the Lion, it's clear that Luther is the villain, although it's his perceived slight by the Lion that set off the series of events that would doom Caliban. Chaos, of course, is always around to take advantage of any situation to gain a new plaything for their game.
@jakewu82685 жыл бұрын
Man the vids you do are just glorious and amazing!!! The lion is very interesting primarch.
@wolflordrho5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words!
@patricklioneljonson27475 жыл бұрын
The best Primarch...... heretic. Lol, just playing.
@Questionhex5 жыл бұрын
So I just finished listening to "our martyred lady" audio drama. The chaos presence is repeatedly referenced as 'the 8 turned god' hearing Guilliman called ' the 8th found Lord' freaked me out way more than it should have.
@Meanwatch5 жыл бұрын
Sry,old comment but anyway, the 8 does not refer to Roboute but to Khorne,the sacred number of Khorne is 8
@markm37635 жыл бұрын
Man, I love your videos! You made me go and buy both Dark Imperium books and decide to get into 40k to play Ultramarines just because I loved hearing about Gulliman and his philosophy. Thanks for the hard work you do!
@lolbots6862 жыл бұрын
as guilaman,in the rare times he can be home on macrage goes to a certain graveyard,alone he sees the graves,each one,dug for his adoptive family and the ultramarines he truely exalted. the avenging son would sit next to the grave of his adoptive parents, and chuckled "mom,dad....if you were both here....youd be wanting me to relax as i cried myself to sleep every night,wouldnt you...funny... now that i think of it." as the sword of unity placed a caring hand upon it,hed get up and mourn,only to see in the distance,the feathers of a hawk,and a raven. on the ground. the feathers of both birds in the area gave guilaman flashbacks,to that of corvus and sanguinius,brothers he, albeit not got along with usualy, were his dauntless few, his trusted and those he worked well with. "this must be what it is like for you,isnt it....being broken,nearly alone.... unable to save anyone. and that's what you both felt. pain,sorrow,lonelyness." drawing his gladius incandel,with one motion,the feathers would be sent on there way via the wind "sanguinius,corvus... whereever you may be are my brothers....i only hope it is a place better then here." in the warp, the sanguinor looked out to the chaos drenched hellscape,and to the star child. the sanguinor spoke. "tell me, father. do you know if we may ever retake the galaxy and save it again?" the star child shook his head "i know not. but i have faith in guilaman. i only hope his will can survive long enough to see his brothers again. the lion especially" "would omegon even join guilaman?" the star child shook his head again "i know not. but its possible." to be continued...
@brooklynkeith28777 ай бұрын
This is more relevant now since both Lord Lionel and Lord Roubute are both back. I really want the baddest team up for the both brothers. They both deserve it.
@DarkSolace335 жыл бұрын
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. Wolf Lord we will be watching your career with great interest.
@chez0102 Жыл бұрын
This hits different now
@marcuskaae2128 Жыл бұрын
the industrial speed of that duel caught me off guard
@-----Alcatraz------5 жыл бұрын
23:57 That voice crack killed me
@PeachDragon_ Жыл бұрын
I love their relationship, it's lowkey wholesome
@fg094035 жыл бұрын
The humanization and humor present in the primarchs wasn't something I expected. I've only ever read a few 40k books and no 30k so I never really read anything with them in it. Guilliman being embarrassed by the wolves in front of his big brother and the giant crowd is pretty funny.
@seanwhitman83533 жыл бұрын
And the fact that Lion basically slapped Fafnir for his brother tells you a lot as well