Love it. Little moments like that are great for character building. I've always imagined his dad being kind of a stern aloof hardass that are traditionally distant & demanding like my grandpa - asking his 7yo son to take a box of new bike parts to build his own bike, or take a block of steel and make his own axe at 11 yo. Capable of showing gentle love, but very difficult to talk to, man-to-man. Being Guilliman must have been cool since you can just DO stuffs perfectly and exceed his dad's requirements.

Damn.😢

Which book was this in? I need to have feels

Mine’s the sword break Hilarious

My favorite Rowboat moment is when he tries to pick up paper in the Armor of Fate

XD holy shit lol

"Ultra Fucked" lol

​@@ruckmee4249 10th edition happens:shit is even more fucked

Thats kinda wholesome lmao

@@TalosAcephalos I Like a little wholesome with my grim dark.

@@ThatGuy-mt7hq just a little, as a treat

This wholesome is so powerful slaanesh has become stronger and less dangerous all in one.

His ultratrains on his ultratrainset.

Kip she was a true Ultra-mom

Okay but don't had grandpa and sometimes that's enough.

Basically, Guilliman and Dorne had good parental figures.

@@HuevoBendito so did Magnus

Vulkan also had a family, and he’s probably one of the most humane (ignoring pyromania) of the Primarchs. I’m sending a theme here.

They knew what they where doing.

what Canada are you in?

Fucking time warp shenanigans.

@@mr.potato2223 As a vancouverian, probably not vancouver.

@@azariyelvarro6271 pretty sure they’re only in Ontario, Quebec, and Atlantic Canada

Guilliman in 30k: happy accountant. Guilliman in 40k: sad accountant.

@@Fourtytwo4242 there is no such thing as a happy accountant

@@KyrieFortune That was his power, he was the first ever happy accountant.

It all started when the Alpha Legion broke dad's iPad. He was never happy again.

Papa Smurf is going to take too long to fix the Imperium cuz he's too busy slapping elf booty.

All I heard was TTS Rogal Dorn

my favourite is the setup for this interaction, after the destruction of Monarchia when Lorgar attacks Guilliman in a rage but he just gets up, dusts himself off, and asks Lorgar if hes done with his temper tantrum

- U mad bro? - *I am going to kill you.* - Yup he mad

A tube on mount Everest started yelling at him?

Well his step mom

You know that's kind of a funny image imagine some lady in her like 60's chewing out the Ten foot tall peak of humanity jacked as hell roboute guilliman for wakeing up an hour after 9

@@emiliianoportillo1311 yeah that would be really funny

@@machomanrandysavage5879 it happened and was funny as fuck.

The great thing when you send the smurf hordes, is that every casulty on both sides is good news.

And you give them impossible odds. I swear that the worse the odds are these days, the louder their chanting gets, the greater my headache becomes, and the more of them survive. Send them to get donuts from a drive-through, and they will have devistating casualties.

They are the ones you laugh at and begrudgingly come back to over and over because you need them. They're like the nerd you bully at school and then have to ask for help with your homework.

Dude I want to hate the Ultradicks so bad but they are literally the most stupidly effective army. I play custodes so same team don't drop pod my house but damn can't they take a L

@@camramaster true story. they can't hit a layup, but dammit if they aren't the BEST at "no chance in hell" operations.

NGL Imagine Sacrificing your life to Save an Empire, then you wake up and Everyone is just like "So........ Yeah We got the Tyranids coming to terra..... Ultramar is being attacked, Daemons are everywhere and the Eye of terror Ripped the Imperium in half......."

@@robberyproductions1363 That's not the parts that he's mad about. He's 200% Pissed about the absolute buttfucked state of the Imperium, having turned into a crazy cult dystopia that's so far from what the Emperor intended 10000 years before that it's almost unrecognisable. Because Geedubs needs to bang the fandom over the head with the "The Imperium is not cool or something to aspire to" stick for half of them to get it.

@@ToaArcan oh I was just making a joke about having a Rude wake up call

"dad literally had two rules. No religion, and no warp fuckery. Now just look where we are. Ten thousand years later and you assholes worship him and there are basically warp daemons devoted to him. I hate literally every one of you so much right now."

that's the point really. Horus wasnt really meant to win. if he did, chaos would eventually run out of humans to feast from. they thrive in an eternal stalemate not absolutes

I honestly hope Guilliman almost dies and get a Dante moment, in like a dream, he on ground, dying and he looks up to just see Konnor there like "hey son it been a while, how the empire doing?"

@@Fourtytwo4242 well he got that with one of his dads...

that is wrong Dorn is not just a brick He is a Brickwall

He's a brick....HOUSE!

@@joshbbrad2366 I hate this. Have an upvote good sir or madam.

A primarch is not an inanimate object like a brick. Unless he is dead...

I am fortifying this structure.

I read this In his voice hahahaha

Ultra groan. Ultra depression... Ultra fhackin crying.

come here, I have a new combat tactic for you, now don't move. You stand there, square up against your opponent, draw back your fist, and ULTRA PUNCH TO THE FACE!

I was really hoping in TTS when Guilliman wakes up that he just outright murdered Cato Sicarius

Shut Sicarius in a cage

Huh... huh

Logistics is his superpower.

Eh- ... Well shit you're right

😂

At least I won’t die a nerd

Idk i love the ultramarines because they are like the only humanish space marine, they give hope and want to make the galaxy better, they dont have a genetic flaw, or some great brooding curse that makes them kill everyone around them, they aren't super hairy, they are just sane competent people in a world full of crazies ( that's not to say the nother arent competent ethier) doing their best to create a better world as their primarch wanted. Guilliman gets shit done and seems to make life better for the common man, and i love that he is a idealist that can make shit happen.

Glad someone speaking truth. Seriously, space Augustus with space Roman legions is a cool template. As a guy who grinds his teeth at "charge waving chainsword" used as the height of tactical skill, a dude who learns, documents, and improves his forces, to say nothing of an entire freaking society, is awesome.

@@fedupN Thanks to the two of you for helping me put into words why I love Guilliman and his Ultramarines

Who the fuck is "everyone"? I sure as hell appreciate and welcome competent leadership.

Also Iron Warriors VS Imperial Fists

Inquisition vs Space Wolves Chaos Gods vs Chaos Gods Emperors Children vs Space Wolves Emperors Children vs Salamanders Emperors Children vs Emperors Chi-

@@bjornthefellhanded5655 damn emperor's children! They ruined the emperors childrem!

@@bjornthefellhanded5655 #gungang :D

@@TalosAcephalos you Emperor's Children sure are a contentious people.

J+v

Iron Harvest.

They did the game sad I still have hopes for it

@@kylzepolaczkowaty2197 i think its all right, i did not go hypemode and expect that the game will chance my life and shit. The hype was not hood for the game. But also day one it was barely playable. All in all good game had fun fun

@@kylzepolaczkowaty2197 Move on, there are better games that deserve your time and money more.

You'd be surprised how badly the Imperium gets screwed over because their enemies read the military instruction manual that the smurfs follow so religiously

@@Aredel idk how much it would really help, a lot of the tactics the us army utilizes for example are publicly available, and even then, many of those are just common sense. Like if you're ambushed the first thing you should do is "break contact" which means what it sounds like, either get physical distance, a sturdy obstacle, or obscurement like via smoke grenade so you're not suffering the effects of suppression and can freely plan your next move. Knowing this isn't tactical genus, but how you go about breaking contact based your situation, resources, and the contact of the greater engagement could be.

@@SIRslipperyasp91 the difference between that and 40k is that in real life, we see it as a guideline. Something that is useful to learn from, but not strictly adhered to. We widely accept and utilize niche and unconventional tactics as the situation sees fit. In 40k, an unhealthy number of chapters see the Codex Astartes as a sacred dogma to be religiously adhered to at all times. “The space book says this is bad” isn’t literal: it’s a joke about how unwilling many chapters are to deviant from its instructions.

@@Aredel now im wondering how many times people were executed for picking up an enemy weapon because their bolter ran out of ammunition. Im too new to 40k so i just remember that apparently in the codex you get killed on the spot for doing so

@@ZyroShadowPony the marines are a bit more practical on that front. They don’t like using anything other than their given equipment, but they don’t have a commissar breathing down their neck for looking at an objectively better gun. Unless you’re the Black Templars, in which case I can see a chaplain smashing your head in with a crozius for heresy.

I bet you like Aurora 4x its like playing a exel spreadsheet

@@patricksvarietycorner5700 fish?

That's how our GM says it when we play the 40k RPG too lol

Which books?

cool pfp, physical instrument has the coolest art

I'm genuinely shocked that they didn't start calling him booty boi after that revelation of how his name is pronounced

gotta love Jaghatai's Engrish accent

I am surprised that they didn't mention that that event was how he got his nick name ''The Avenging Son".

Its loosely based on it but not really a parody

To be fair, Guilliman is himself a walking Roman stereotype that feels like he's made to feel like Cesar.

I wouldn't be suprised if Gulliman is the reason all the astartes stuff is done in roman numerals

@yossarian I'm pretty sure, Calgar is supposed to be Augustus, seeing as his full name is, Marneus AUGUSTUS Calgar.

can i get the sauce pls,wanna read that whole chapter

@@danang5 The head punching thing is from "Know no Fear" & the Lorgar moment was from "Betrayer"

He wasn't even holding his breath, he went 12 hours without breathing.

@@sonofjack6286 He may be a "bean counter" but he still is a primarch. And boy, do they hit hard.

You do realize that if you had your breath in space, it's a lot more painful than if you try to actually breath in space. If you he your breath, your lungs will explode and your blood will boil. Whereas if you try to breath, you will just suffocate so it won't be as violent or brutal. So I think it's more of gulliman was suffocating, but because he was a primarch, he physically couldn't die unless it went a little longer than it did.

I always liked the meme of lion waking up, getting all the chapter masters in a room, having some dark angels lock a door and then taking out a ultra belt.

@@Fourtytwo4242 it’s like one of those shitty anti drug ads. Lion el Johnson- “Where did you learn to do this son?” Azreal- “I LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU!!!”

Really? What changed about him?

@@doomguy9049 you see, Lion was kicked from imperium secundus, and he began to question his actions. He recognized that his actions had destroyed more planets than the night lords did. In his hunt for Conrad, he became a monster. He hurt a shit ton of people in his war. He felt bad that he had his second in command, Luther, removed from duty for questioning his actions. As he left secundus, he headed strait for caliban. To apologize to his legion, and to a hurt, berated, Luther. But when he got there, Luther had turned the dark angels of caliban into traitors in an effort to save the falling legion and planet. In their battle neither would kill the other, ending with the lion in a coma and Luther captured by the dark angels.

@@jasons.2807 Big thing is Luther was lion's real dad, like he raised lion so to kill his son was something he could not do. Even being controlled by the chaos gods his love for his son was still to strong. Then the fallen who had every right to doubt lion ran away and fell to chaos, the angels under lion command went insane and became the dumb asses of today. Which is why I can't wait for lion to come back, there so much to him now and for him to put his dad (who his sons beat the shit out of every hundred years for 10k years) down going be a interesting moment. Got to love that GRIM DARK feeling to it. it also be nice to see dark angels go from nut job memes to the original point, people built to hunt down traitors. also chances are dark angels might try to put lion back in a comma after he starts fixing their shit. FALLEN 2.0 BABY!!!

I hate that this doesn’t have more likes and isn’t pinned at the very top. Take my like, you beautiful pink blob with a mosin

@@11jerans It's /actually/ Gewehr 98 but thank you for your support

Now how do I get the Image of Commisar Phillip Swift shooting propaganda out of my head?

Sooo where can get some is stuff dude?

Some of this stuff

What the Curze, I finally get it.

That pretty much canon, Rogal Dorn also took some in, problem is was it just one primarch or both of them? but yeah Guilliman took them under his wing, question is did he take in some loyalist iron boys.

@@Fourtytwo4242 Not likely. Iirc the loyalist Legionaries were used to found the Grey Knights

I still want to know who those two were.

@@Rahab369 Not all of them, the grey knights only had 1000 marines, Guilliman most likely had 10k iron warriors fighting for the emperor, after so much battling only 3k most likely remained in the utra marines. Meaning there could be 3 chapters are iron warrior gene-stock, again only matters how many are left.

@@camramaster I actually found a leak from GW on this one. they were lovers of basket ball and wasted their legions challenging every leader to a basket ball match their legions often had trouble with wanting to obey their leader and the fact the power armor made basket ball difficult. The emperor was okay with this because somehow they were taking over worlds, slowly, they made lorgar look like a lightning bolt. But with full intact infrastructures and full populations ready and willing to serve. However eventually they landed on a world with strange creatures reminiscent of many earth native animals that seemed to defy logic, their density, elasticity and durability changes with no clear sense of reasoning behind it. They could fall hundreds of feet and break bones or they might fall into the core and crawl out without a scratch, even the way they fell wouldn’t always follow any set logic. they just like any other world challenges these strange creatures to games of basket ball taking various things when winning. Eventually becoming rulers of this world, the emperor was fascinated to see these strange creatures listed in the report. But that’s when he saw it, they were the loony toons. He hated them with all his being, he hated the big chungus meme with all his might as it lasted 10,000 years.and a war broke out causing one of them to turn traitor because he had grown a fetish for Lola bunny and inflation, often using her as a basket ball during sex. The traitor was executed and the loyalist took his own life having lost the only one who could challenge him to 1 on 1 games.

I don't want to die from alcohol poisoning

Don't forget blueberry

I dont think you're allowed to post your plans for killing off humanity...

Honestly, considering how Bricky treats those types of memes, you probably won't get too drunk Edit: I called it you cringe memer

you will get literally 1 drink

it does sound a lot better in Portuguese now that i think about it. dont have many friends into 40k much to speak about it with in my native language, the few i do i usually speak english with, so i never even thought about it

And The reason they are called Ultramarines is not because they are "Ultra" good space marines. It's because there's armor is painted Ultramarine Blue, hence Ultramarines (in the old lore they were painted Ultramarine, now they are Cobolt blue.

Came here looking for this comment. Yes it is beyond the sea or beyond the homeplanet. The reason why we have marines is because we have a mar so we can have a marina with boats , a singular mariner and plural marines. But I guess it's lost on DK. I mean ultramarines is space rome. Robute is Julius Caesar and they are the 13th legion, Julius Caesars own legion. T Yadda yadda akshually....

Libertarians playing Imperium is peak irony and always the case

@@AceTaxiaGaming they play orkz

@@ianwatterson6970 nah, they and ironically play as fascists

@@AceTaxiaGaming Look, no one in their right mind would support the Imperium in real life, but you also don't have to let politics stop you from appreciating an aesthetic. Bolter go bang-bang.

@@AceTaxiaGaming "Ironically"

She doesn't exist.

Fish

Why do I love this so much 😂😂

to be fair, they are mega-villainous, so if they do something bad, it's expected. If "good-guys" do something bad then it's more important.

@@ardensediri80 tau are the "good guys" Imperium are opportunistic pragmatists.

Lady luck beats the shit out of some lamenters.

Also called the ”Taxi bois”

@@Hiihtopipa DON’T DO MY BOIS LIKE THAT

@@Hiihtopipa you take that back,DO NOT DISRESPECT THE BOIS

Rylanir and Saul tarvitz both have a monopoly on the Chad energy of 40k

@@exiusagron6660 Sevitar is pretty dope to. Head butting kharne after getting tired of their fight, escaping captibity from the dark angels just to beat a man to death with his own power flail after he crippled his astropath friend, then being like, "OK back to jail I go!"

The ancient of rights deserves better than he got and better than the imperium could provide. If they just found him put him into a dreadnought inside a knight inside a titan that man would've made every single traitor primarch a large red stain of blood and warp energy.

Don't forget Sigismund the embodiment of the emperor's chadness

Also hope they don’t forget Fabius bile

They have! Deathskulls

Blue is lucky. Which is also the only reason ultramarines win all the time.

Legends said that the 2 missing space marine legions were painted purple, they are so good at being sneaky they can hide in people’s memory. That’s why no one remember them.

I think there's actually a short story about orks wearing ultramarine armor and convincing themselves that they're space marines fighting for the emperor. I know there's a ton of memes about it, but I'm pretty sure that's based on an old story

Blue is the color of good loot! Why have a never connected the dots, only reason the ultramarines have plot armor is because the orcs think blue is lucky

"light rain for a moment"...

Isn’t his codex book based off the logar book so that means ultramarines = heretics

@@scotbot2016 Uhm no ? The Lectitio Divinitus is based on Lorgar's book.

Funny thing guilliman wanted it to be guide lines not a follow it 100% of the time, then he got stabbed woke up and all his marines worship the fucking book. Say least he was even more sad and is now making a Codex 2 because no one could understand it was just guide lines. In short he gave marines way to much credit and this time it going be so dumbed down that anyone can read it.

... That Codex?

@@scotbot2016 no, no, no... Girlyman is a heretic, because he actively allowed the creation of a Legion (violating his own codex) using geneseed that belonged to other Primarchs, is actively trying to remove baseline human control over the Imperium, and enabling a techno heretic to... eugh, innovate.

Rowboat Girlyman

Give us the ass GW!!!

That thing was bigger than a bolter

This is, genuinely, literally the only complaint worth hearing about in regards to the Ultramarines. Its TRAGIC and frankly appalling that GW doesnt include decals for the other chapters - ESPECISIALLY in regards to things like say, the Lamentors, who PREFOMINANTLY feature checkerboard patterns... on top of orange-ish bronze or taxi cab yellow armor. Freehanding THAT is a nightmare that could be solved with a SINGLE sticker. But, the Ultramatines dont use checkerboard patterns so fat chance youre getting any in your standard space marine box.

That's completely understandable. They have "upgrade kits" for certain chapters which are essentially the transfers and some glorified shoulder pads, but even then only for big name chapters.

thats not really an ultramarine thing thats a gw thing.

The Elite and Command starter sets have Ultramarines, but also Space Wolves, Blood Angels and Dark Angels

You kind of have get the transfers for the other loyalist legions from Forge World. Black Templars? Nope.

He was something *beyond* furious.

Once a upon a time, i was me

Aww whatcha going to do about it turn traitor

Ok traitor

Sup microcann

@@akumaking1 tru

@@akumaking1 nani?!?

@@Tucker0603 John Cena recently apologized for "accidentally" referring to Taiwan as a country.

@@pathfindersavant3988 he's been doing some kind of corporate ambassador thing for the past 10yrs or so with china.

Except both get pushed so much because the majority of fans like them.

He didn't say a word actually.

Best brother ever

@@akumaking1 The loyal one right? We need some guys to save him from Necrons in a book or something.

Pretty sure Ferrus would disagree with the first bit.

Bring forth thy elvish gothish bootay!

@@ardagenc6842 hold up loyal fulgrim? how did i miss this? i now have a new headcannon, when rylanor made his last stand trazin stopped time again and snatched him up and repaired him and put him in his gallery next to loyalsit fulgrim and rylanor gets to see his gene father as the man he remembered not snek boi

it is also a hammer

Ultra live* Ultra chat* Ultra Spamming* Ultra Premier* Ultra top* Ultra tier*

@@akumaking1 ultra rapid deployment..... wait

Bit late but that’s what the Night Lords trilogy does to a man…

Beautiful absolutely beautiful.

He woke up and moved and every one stopped fighting he looked around in confusion than a khorne berserker charted him and was killed imediatly

@@arandomcomment7208 certified world eater moment

Everyone, even those aligned with Chaos, must stop the Doom Music when one of the Big Boys comes back from the dead right in front of you. I like to think that said punched Chaos Marine just happened to be next to the coffee and just looked up at him in awe, then Guilliman looks down at him before being like '....Wait, you're not supposed to be here..' in his mind before he cast fist at them.

@@Eva-uw6uo I've got this image of guiliman wandering past in a bathrobe wiping his eyes and wondering why somethings are on fire on his way to the coffee pot

I'M GONNA SAY THE M-WORD!

Find out on the next episode of dragon...ball...Z

Probably not

Zeitgeist is also not pronounced zeet-geist.

If shy is doing all the editing, then yeah full credit. The picture choices are excellent.

Yeah, there's usually greatness in all their stuff but she knocked it out of the park on this one.

Isn't this a joke in another series?

@@lordofshades9852 is it? I dindn't know. Do you know from wich series?

@@johanneisenach8825 I'm thinking about it and I think it may have been team four star's DBZ abriged series with Freiza

@@lordofshades9852 ah okay, haven't watched that

Grandpa smurf the big hypocrite. He is the premogenitor to the 3rd worst loyalists barely ahead of the ravenguard and iron hands.

@@wiccanthropy1956 You forgot the guys who care more about proving themselves innocent then actually helping anyone, the ones who have to be killed eventually because if they aren’t they’ll become more murder-y then the guys whose armor is deep red literally because it’s stained with so much blood, the guys who are half mutt and so obsessed with legacy that they sit around 3/4ths of the time waiting to fight the most epic battle they can find, the ones who are so obsessed with the hunt they’ll ignore a galactic crisis if their current chosen prey is in the other direction, then the cowards who sit behind their fortresses waiting for the enemy to come to them rather then even try to get the battle over quickly, and finally the only actual good ones who care about Humanity and love Fire a bit too much.

@@gammothguy297 where was the love for the citizens of helsreach. Never forget. The salamanders gave up on them.

@@wiccanthropy1956 Fair. I was just doing the meme really. I’m an Iron Hands connoisseur through and through, I was just pointing out that every Loyalist Legion is really the worst one. None of them are “better” then any other. They all have their problems, and that!s ironically what makes them Human. They just won’t embrace them.

@@gammothguy297 honestly? I'm a night lord guy. I like the clenched fist contrasting vulkans aggressive acceptance. The iron hands are tied for my least knowledgeable legions with the emperors children. Sorry gorgon fans. Which clan of medusae do you like most?

Given the fact that the legion 2 and 11 was the missing ones and the Ultramarines was the 13th legion, that make sense. It been confirm that Pr8march were able to convince the emperor the absorb the two legion as they not in trouble as their primarchs were.

F***, if this theory is True... The Astral Claws may have been... Oh.

Dark angels were the biggest untill the chapters had to start making their own, they also had the best gear because they were the first legion. Papa smurf changed that and it had nothing to do with the missing chapters, 500 stable seed worlds can produce alot of men. He addresses it when the lion shows up for his meet and greet.

@@Ashtor1337 That may be what Guilliman said to cover his ass, but if you look at the timeline the Ultramarines very suddenly more than doubled their numbers immediately after the II and IX Primarchs got wolfed hard. The Dark Angels still would have been biggest if they hadn't lost nearly 2/3 of their legion during the Rangdan Xenocides.

@@gama343 lmao . No they wouldn't be. Dark angels had 1 Death world to recruit from... Ultramarines had 1000+ normal worlds. The Terran made legionaries would not have been enough to compensate. Terra no longer supplied the legions once their primarchs were found. That massive increase is 1000 worlds. Look at the other legions. Only the word bearers came close to matching the Ultramarines. Dark Angles couldn't even keep up with the Word Bearers.

It's like bendyman cucumber

Beautiful giraffeman

God damn, just you think the Word Bearers actually managed to do something badass. Even when they turn traitor and ambush the other side they still suck at it. I mean it kinda fits since they were probably one of the weakest in terms of battle prowess from what I’ve heard but damn. Here I was thinking they’d gotten to shake off their weakness and lack of battle prowess through zeal and faith and become a legitimate match for their mortal enemies

It annoys me that they couldn't or wouldn't fight back without receiving permission or orders.

Er... Source? Because this seems wild

@@craigkuhlman6869 well, he even has his own page on the wiki, just do a search for Illiyan Nastase and you should be able to find him. jokes aside, i doubt he is still canon, but at one point in time, GW thought this was a good idea

Looking for that Steam Tag

Ahh yes of course. Your input is most valued lord Adornable.

Agree on the Raven guard bit, Most underappreciated Primarch Also yea the community meme hate on the UM is gone to bullshit levels where people are actively now bullying people who play them

Which is weird to me since you'd think a lot of people would gravitate more towards Ultramarines since they're the only loyalist with a playable Primarch, the novelty of that alone I'd assume would draw many people to them. Matt Ward REALLY hurt their image that badly huh?

I like Roman's as well, but I have a Vikings army, cuz vikings are cool.

What a Chat!!!

@@MattManDX1 what if I told you that’s why I chose salamanders as my first army… I wanted to be a “good” guy but I wasn’t about to get bullied by random people for the color of my models 🤦🏻‍♂️ also flaming shit is dope 😂

I don't understand that kind of thinking. Really aside from favoritism the only beef to be had with the ultramarines is that their codex astartes sucks. It really isn't even a ultramarine thing. It's a Bobby G thing.Black Templars for life.

@@wiccanthropy1956 the codex does not suck, its basially a book with great advice and tactics they prob werent all created by robute, kind of like the art of war. its a collection put together along with advice on almost every situation one could face. And the codex helped to save the imperium from another civil war and making sure that any rebellion by space marines was but a small hic up in the grand scheme of things. Also the black templars are literally what their god did not want for humanity blind zealots who are ruled by superstition.

@@GuthanSlayer the codex was almost the catalyst for the next Civil War. The zealots were allowed free roaming privileges because of the codex splitting up the legions. If rogal was in charge he could've reigned in the bad boys exiling sigismund if necessary. They are a direct result of the cause= the codex. It's like looking at ball dropping out of your hand and being surprised it landed on the floor.

@@wiccanthropy1956 Guilliman wanted the Codex to be seen a guide-line not a bible , they treat the book not like their primarch wanted , dont blame guilliman on this.

@@xFirtewx rimworld gullible wrote into his book that legion making was severely taboo. This mindset is dumb because none of his arguments against why it was a good idea outweighed the reasons that it was a dumb idea. "They don't trust us" "they would trust a whole bunch of lesser minds more?" "No one should have that much power" "will the 500 world's of ultramar disband and become singularities numbering world no larger than 5 worlds still bound together? Doesn't both of those scenarios sever utility? Wouldn't it be a shame if we lost all our siege experts at once? Or all our stealth experts because they were undermanned?" This is my big stink on it. The fact that he has an entire legion of Leandros from Space marine isn't really that big a deal to me.

40k does not need a emperor, it does not need a warrior, it does not need a super knight of death, it does not need a wolf king, it does not need a warmaster, IT NEEDS THE GOD DAMN SPACE ACCOUNDENT

Yeah him and rogal have the least fancy powers but the most evident effects. Plus I love his dichotomy with angron since they both ended up on Roman style worlds, and they both are natural berzerkers. Makes you wonder what angron would have been like without the nails.

@@thesweetbusinessfanclub7072 In his book it was really clear and even more sad what we lost, it also clear why the emperor was looking into getting the nails removed. Angron was a much nicer vulkan, yes you heard me right A NICER VULKAN!! His power was to be able to take in others pain, he was the white mage of the primarchs. This also makes you wonder what the world eaters would have been, with such a leader in charge they most likely would have been the most human of the space marines way more human then even the salamanders.

@@Fourtytwo4242 wait really?! Well crap I gotta read that now

THE EMPLOYER HIRES

Alpharius wears a helmet

Perterabo wore a helmet when he kicked the snot out of daemon angron

@@DarthRellek55 The helmet stays on when shit kicking daemons

@@filwilliamson9149 heck ye

The lion wears his helmet in most battles. And I'm pretty sure sanguinius does too. Pretty much more loyalists wear their helmets in battle than the future traitors did. I don't think Horus ever did, angron clearly never did, im not sure about Konrad, I don't think lorgar did, mortarion wore a hood, Magnus(not a traitor by choice) never wore a helmet. Perturabo seems like the people working at OSHA that require you to wear a helmet when working, but they rarely do.

Too bad that plague left so many scars in the minds of people

@@marcuskylemarcuskyle222 as someone new to 40k i love the um and guillaman to see them get so much hate it makes me a bit sad tbh but then again I only seen most of the new stuff with them

@@davidpower5710 They are the poster boys of the space marines, who themselves are the poster boys of warhammer 40.000; seeing them everywhere is to be expected. As for the hate? It's because of how much friggin plot armor they have and always being presented as awesome, while at the same time being the most bland space marine chapter, with literally nothing special or unique about them except for their paint scheme how stuck up they are about their friggin book, like goddamn superhuman boy scouts. Overall.. they are BORING, Bland compared to other chapters, and they are EVERYWHERE

@@thorveim1174 eh. I like em. The plot armor is annoying but i do enjoy Rowboat Goblin, and i like that they're all rounders. They're a good POV for 40K beginners so of course they're gonna be everywhere.

I quite enjoy the Roman aesthetics that the boys in blue have. Also, they are kinda easier to paint, I myself am painting my marines like the 3rd company, and may buy Robal Gorn to complement my army

Captain Titus" Are you sure about that?"

@@Juggernaut1782 *sicarius* i am sorry titus but you are currently serveing in the deathwatch

*Laughs in Ventris*

And her chastising him after his drunken antics with the Space Wolves

It takes a lot of balls to chastise Konrad Kurze as he's coming to kill you.

Rogal is like top 5 primarchs on anyone's list. Each list is made better with a solid foundation.

Try and see if you can listen to this text: "It is I, *Rogal Dorn* "

@@sparking023 thats funny and unbearably sad

It can't be, if Luetin was here this whole thing would be too good. The amount of joy that might spawn from such a crossover could cause a tear in the fabric of our reality.

@@AnimeFan9833 Birth of new Chaos god perhaps?

@@Rodion9920 Slaanesh 2.0

No nerds allowed!

Luetin doesn't seem to like collabing. He apparently just rejected being on Adeptus Podcastus

Grandpa smurf*

That is Guillimans favorite chapter to, only boys he could get drunk with and have a nice chat has equals. He likes his boys but man you just need to relax and have a drink some times.

I think you mean "WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF!"

Thats on purpose. They took tons from ancient history. Skitari (admech troops) were actually Spartan Warriors. Blood Angels are full of Christian imagery, it goes on and on.

Lamenters are loyalists. 😑

@@furSonea Whoopsie... I should clarify a first founding loyalist chapter with a Primarch.

I want to see Bricky seeing the truth about Dorn.

I'm just waiting for the best bois, the salamanders

But they're a Chaos faction XD

It’s funny that the most produced and most represented space marine legion actually has a small, very devout cult following. I totally agree with you, I would love to paint an ultramarine army.

@@jasons.2807 I am a white scares fan my self but even I know they are not THAT BAD, hell codex made sense in the early days, Guilliman most likely planned on changing it has years went on. It honestly was not that big of a deal until he got stabbed to death.

@@Fourtytwo4242 guilliman is just barely better than perturabo. They both crippled the imp fists. He also broke his own Geneva convention by ordering the primaris project. He is slowly outsourcing all baseline humans from the ruling structure. He never once said "hey I know this 1000 man limit sucks and brotherhoods forged in fire will be severed, so as a compromise, I'll go down to one world like the rest of you" he is as hypocritical as doge vandire.

@@wiccanthropy1956 Then you dont know the lore do you? He never intended the Codex to be a book of rules It was a book of Guidelines ya moron So before you start spouting crap , just admit you dislike him and the UM and get on with it, instead of making up shitty as excuses

@@mkgaming5823 point to the element of the list I made that is false