Had to be the Ultimate X-Men where everything sucks just a little bit harder

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That is an awful justification to kill one person. I’m so glad I stopped collecting the ultimate universe at a certain point.

​@raypaz2947 not really considering in the xmen universe, they're willing to execute mutants for any reason

@@raypaz2947it is an upsetting. But IMO to say you stop collecting an on-going series for years and hundreds of stories because one story moment is harsh, seems like an overreaction. But everyone is different. Best.

What an unfathomable horror to have befall you

⁠@@charliemcmillan4561 being a mutant would almost always suck there’s almost a 0% chance you would get help to be able to control your abilities and you could just end up with abilities that cant be controlled and just cause mass murder

@@SnuggieMaple yeah it’s understandable why mutants are so feared compared to most other superhumans in marvel most of the time they either end up really deformed or get shitty curses like this kid did mutants like Logan, storm, magneto and professor x are extremely lucky/rare

@@JohnWall-lj1mx You really do gotta feel bad for both sides tho

@@JohnWall-lj1mx Logans ability is not a gift it's more of curse. He is constantly in pain almost all the time.

idk twinkies still exist.

@@RavenLotznot the point. Maybe there is food out there that is safe for him to eat. The point is everything around him dies, so eventually hes going to have a horrible end

@@tomasmichaels642 I was making a joke

​@@tomasmichaels642They never expire, haven't you watched Wall-E?

​@@ArmyRangerSJthey're still organic tho

​@SCP_BrightAlt his brother, which had the Logan treatment before, so, since he lost his dog to torment, he got a Wolverine

@SCP_BrightAltif I recall correctly, in the comics, sabortooth and wolverine’s brother are actually two distinct characters, and at one point, the latter actually made fun of sabertooth after they got into an argument, saying something to the effect of “you’re just a sad imitation who wishes they could be part of the family.” So yeah, no familial connection between Wolverine and sabertooth. The one Wolverine killed, if I recall correctly, is the father of both of them. That, mind you, makes it even more interesting since eventually Wolverine also caused the death of sabertooth’s father, the fact that the two “walverine counters” actually interacted, and in spite of having both lost their parent two Wolverine, the one who had *even more* reason to be morally outraged considering they shared a father, is the one that is much less driven to take revenge in quite the same way.

Average Comic villain when a hero has a good day:

So wolverine and sabertooth are David and Thanos, in your example...

@@SnuggieMaple More like average comic villain be like

@@robertcorley5225 explain pls

Context?

@@Ice-ev8si It was in Justice League unlimited. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebupaNWktJvHp6M.html

@@Ice-ev8si kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eZmnddmprNjIqmw.html

@@robertcorley5225 yea guat

Finally somebody gives respect to deadpool. Everybody acts like he’s an idiot who will mess anything and everything up if given the chance when in reality he has a real moral compass, he has real trauma, and he has real integrity

Atomic bomb vs coughing baby vs atomic bomb

I’d add the hulk personally in there but that’s just me and maybe punisher oh and how could I forget silver surfer he absolutely deserves to be in there somewhere

@@newtybotor in Deadpool’s case Atomic coughing baby

@@newtybotthe entire sad clown arc, Deadpool 2099 like come on

​@@time2rowco999thats what an accident is. Something unplanned that just sort of happened.

@@time2rowco999 ur slow ain’t ya

​@@time2rowco999 then what's the definition to accident? Things not happening?

@@time2rowco999so it was on purpose?

@@time2rowco999 u r so slow

Which is why you use any of the teleporting/flying mutants to take him off planet to a place were he could master his power in peace. The REAL reason why he was off'd is because that ability is WAY to broken. There's no reason to write an X-Men comic if one the X-Men can just erase their enemy from existence.

@@kingjamestres no mutants that don't have a healing factor could go near the kid. It killed all organic matter.

@@kingjamestres Wolverine has a healing factor, this kid destroys organic matter. What teleporters have healing factors? Teleporters would be vaporized And the ability isn’t that broken, it’s not like he can choose who he kills, he’s got a field of death around him. He’d only be broken if they threw him into a field of people that someone wanted dead

@@kingjamestres you're acting as if it they had at hand a base IN SPACE for a SINGLE person to train ALONE, already constructed and just waiting for this occasion? As sad as it sounds, off'ing him was the most "realistic" solution

​@@bandit3019Talking like teleportation spells don't exist. Like portal guns don't exist. Like a Jarvis piloted or a.i piloted spaceship doesn't exist 🙄

@@infinitygauntlet101 don’t forget the 5th one, Batman

@@landonmatthews1229 ah yes batman, a very prominent character from the marvel universe

@@Artteza are u slow?, he didn’t say marvel characters, he said “4 horsemen of crippling depression” Batman fits that category, and plus he’s also a comic book character

Exactly

Dead truth of it he has lived a killers life many times over

Looked for this, thanks.

He's the best there is at what he does. But what he doesn't ain't very nice.

isn't very nice...!

Laura is one of my all time favorite marvel characters for sure

Logan had multiple daughters, they just aren't all his. Jubilee and kitty are 100% daughters to him

​@@GrimmGungren don't lie

@Krotas_DeityofConflicts i have a resin statue of her,Daredevil, and Two-Face, my guy

​@Krotas_DeityofConflicts Found the guy that doesn't understand people like different characters.

and if someone has to do it id prefer it was someone who cares enough to have looked for another way first

​@@theirishviking9278Agreed.

Remender's X-Force, that book was top tier!

It truly was

@@theirishviking9278it reminds me of a book called Scythe, where people are chosen young to be the bringers of death in a world where death has been cured “I’d never want to be one” “That, is the first requirement”

Agreed. They were my favorite "X-title". Well, XForce and Xmen 2099, but admittedly, 2099 kind of started losing it's footing after a while. That said, Fox had their own Cinematic Universe in their hands... a they had to do was release New Mutants and make the last Xmen movie Inferno. Where they could have crossed over with New Mutants. Then, at the end of it all, have a concern about what to do with this New team of young Mutants... enter Cable and Domino from Deadpook 2. Then we could have gotten the XForce movie we have been looking forward to for 20 years.

Wasn't Excalibur and X- Factor similar to what you speak of...

@mercurry718 I'm not too familiar with x-factor, but my understanding was x-caliber was primarily a British team

Typical Canadian.

Bro quoted captain price 😭

lol all the major X-men have had to do something like this. Let’s not let the script of a KZfaq short inform you on decades of comics.

@@rubaiyat300youre right, but what this short says is true At the end of the day, logan is willing to do what it takes for good There many reasons whys he willing to do that, from him living longer than anyone, to simplify seeing the bigger picture Most of the time hes just handed the jobs most wouldnt take, not to say the other arnt willing to, but logan is willing to throw everything at something because he has nothing to lose compared to the others

You hit the nail right in the coffin. 👍

I don't agree with killing him. Sorry thiers other steps that could of been taken.

​@@PedroPancho-sd8upWait what other steps? Logan takes him back to the mansion and everyone who doesn't have an amazing healing factor or more dies. Logan tries training the kid on his own, he doesn't know what to do and it just prolongs the kids suffering. Logan allows the kid to keep living but without trying to train him just keeping him in that cave, one day someone will come in and find the kid, the kid will just hate their life more, or something else bad happens. Those are the only three options I see at least

So I hate the fact that this happens a lot! Because why aren't they using a dampening collar on him??? You really didn't think of that? MURDERERS!!!

@@TheBanjoDuck couldn’t Logan put a damping collar on him?

@@deraelevans222 I mean I guess that could have happened but what if the plot decided something happens to that dampening collar?

I think it was more, that it was to give the kid one milestone of adulthood.

@@RequiemPoete that too. Just one last thing to go out on.

One beer ain't gonna do much

you've got to be kidding yourself if you think that kid was sitting with a superhero that night.

@@isaachanninen2020 i mean... he was tho, logan is a superhero

Nope.

Facts

Why was there no other option 😢

@zov282 It's hard to do anything with that power. All it's good for is killing.

​@@zerozolo8981Their leader shoots uncontrollable lasers out of his face. They didn't even consider teaching him to control it. What if he could have stopped ultimatum. Maybe just take the blobs legs or just take the first layer of a person's skin on the arms.

​@@zov282 What are u on about uncontrolled ?? Summers could control it by covering his eyes 🤦🏾 this kids power is to literally release radiation from his body from every breath on a city wide scale, no controlling that

What a out Legion and what he did. He has infinite people in his head who try to make him lose control. That kid was killing zero people in that cave and did zero damage to wolverine. At least teach him to keep his power from activating.

Also the metal skeleton actively poisoning him 😅

@@TheAnimeEncyclopedia that might be true but at this point it hasn’t taken it’s tole yet

Hey uh, this Wolverine is from earth-1610, the ultimate universe. He is the one who tossed Cyclops off a cliff to seduce teenage Jean Grey and once got mind-swapped with Peter Parker and tried to sleep with MJ. Who was like 15. Like, this Logan is a massive, MASSIVE creeper.

@@Kurotaisa I wasn’t referring to this version as a whole he’s a pretty stoic and reliable guy this one I had some semblance of a idea of which version this way due to the comic I have read it. I was aware he was a creep in this universe. In another one he fights venom and calls him a bitch for making Parker cry and made him change his ways.

@@ArachnidYouth would Charles even be able to do that, Logan has a metal skull after all

He might be tempted to... but in cases like this I feel Logan would want to remember the kids name.

No it was because of what happened in his hometown his existence could be used as an excuse to set up a DoFP type future and the X-men couldn't let that happen

@wintertrooper7918 I mean it still happens cause we'll mutants must suffer but you are right. He is a perfect example of how the world sees all mutants and they would stop at nothing to kill/cure all mutants

@@tevinstrachan1421 they become living weapons of mass destruction when they become teens, really odd "evolution" that some can shoot beams of energy while others become more hairy and agile.

Facts buddy every insane bugged out mad scientist without an Ounce of morality would be looking for that boi, in return eventually finding him

Looking at it that way is a good point. As dark as fury can be, this just seems like a better fit for the poor kid. If it were me, I think I'd rather be locked in some government facility deep underground waiting for the day the government decides to deploy me as a bomb. Rather than being offed by Logan. I mean this is a universe where aliens come to invade periodically, not to mention all the other villainous power houses out there.

Wolverine and spiderman fs are just suffering personified but wolverine beat Pete tenfold

To be fair, most of the crap spiderman has to deal with comes from the authors being aholes or really really creepy, yes that author marrying mj and having kids with her is pathetic.

And if he permanently died, his body would still be used for experiments, even make weapons. Not even a proper funeral for this man.

Wolverine's kill more of his own kids than just one, check out the mongrels.

He WANTED to fight the wars 😂😂😂 bros a killer

They got their weapon. And I lost my childhood.

He had a target on his head, and he has the knowledge of killing everyone he knew. Mercy.

Alright...that hurt

Nah u have to be black to be x men Do ya research on it brother

That reminds me off the since with Young Brainiac in God and Monster. Supes had to kill Brainiac in order to save a whole city.

Finish your beer 😢

That's... that's so F'd. Ultimate Universe has no remorse for anyone 😔

Yeah, but how many of them got a cool, or at least unique power? Especially one that didn't wipe out people en masse.

bro just figured out mutant discrimination is an analogy for racism

It's fully referenced in the movies through the depiction of antisemitism

Close, but Batman didn't kiil Ace. Her death was imminent and natural. The kid was actually killed by Wolverine and he has to live with that.

@@coolraul07 point being is was still heart breaking and only they could do it

More like Superman killing kid Brainiac pre Gods and Monsters. That one hit hard AF too.

@@TrueDiox Explains why that version of Superman is so angry and bitter.

Bro 100%fact he even asked if Kurt thought there would be a place for him in the kingdom and Kurt told him when he got there Kurt would welcome him with open arms.

​@@markcole8598 man, that's just so heartwarming

And punisher

@whiteeye3453 Glad someone remembered Frank.

X-Men used to be so good. #394 is my favourite issue. Warp bruh. This issue is exactly had I'd introduce my X-Men to the MCU. 10/10 book.

I'll be honest, this whole thing makes the X-Men's 'anti-cure' stance seem so hollow. I get the potential abuses of that, I really really do -- but they pay for that in the lives of other mutants.

Aw come on lmao

That's just wrong

If I could like this comment twice I would 😂😂😂

😂😂😂😂😂😂 you wrong bro

well most tend to listen to him because he has the experience

@@wintertrooper7918 correct… I’d argue the best judge of character as well due to experience but also because he’s not constrained by idealistic ideologies

He's like an old, war-weary but razor-sharp Sargeant Major...

He's angry bc of his mutation he's constantly keeping in check. But I like the idea

@@jsmall10671 ahhh I see. Good to know. I could imagine the physical toll it would take. And being alive for hundreds of years going through everything he went through.

You don't need inner monologue to convey what a character thinks. The story telling through his actions can say a lot more.

@@romkin1197 I moreso want to see his inner thoughts though. He’s a complex character who hides his emotions behind a gruff exterior. I want to write a comic that’s a full deconstruction of Wolverine so we know how his brain ticks

This could have been the wolverine and the X-men show if it was around long enough

Ni because he literally would have to live life under constant surveillance and supervision, some foods he literally could not eat, and him and other mutants could be attacked and rounded up by the government at any time. This was a mercy kill.

@@ProtocolAbyss you just detailed why I made the joke, all while killing said joke. (Relax, it's not that serious)

Hey why not introduce him to one of the worlds pleasures before he dies? It is his first and last one.😐

As someone else said the child is going to die anyway and alcohol is seen as something adult only so it’s a nice action from wolverine as well as having properties that suppress reaction time and pain signals from the nerves so it makes it less painful for the child in the end. It’s fucked up but it’s what happens in the comic.

Probably the most human thing too do, because even in the face death nothing can be worse.

If you got to die either way it makes sense

Some are absolutely insane. Altering reality, matter manipulation, warping space, mental manipulation/control, immortality, regeneration, telapotation, etc. It's also why I can't really blame people (regular humans) in X-Men comics for being either afraid/hateful of Mutants when at any moment someone could pop and BOOM, your whole family is dead. Doesn't mean I agree with how they treat them, but I understand the fear they have towards them.

That's why it always made no sense for X-Men to be an allegory for the Civil Rights Movement. Mutants are far more dangerous than minorities, even if both groups act completely normal, and civilized.

Yup. Most younger fans are so use to the PG-PG13 version. They'll be shook to see the comic version. Kids LOVE badasses....until they actually do " Bad".

​@@spottedslash4256who? When I was a kid I knew he was the best at what he does and that what he does isn't very nice

@@frederickdawson2253 Yeah that's the motto . But I bet you weren't thinking about ol Wolvie murdering kids out of necessity.

@@spottedslash4256That post-Logan depression hit hard

When was Wolverine ever relegated as a side characters in the films? Other characters were pushed down to prop Logan up in the films.

But how would the ability work? If it has to work up close then im afraid it’d be useless, the ‘nullify’ mutant would be vaporised before he had the chance

​@@Mr_Grapesnope. The power wouldn't work as long as the mutant is near. That isn't getting into the fact Xavier could have knocked the kid out and thus turn his power off via telepathic sleepy times

@@CodyMeThey couldn’t it also was a instance of mass genocide like. See if leech actually has a range and i don’t think leech existed in the ultimates universe. Telepathy on paper sounds good until the mfer wakes up around anyone who doesn’t have an ungodly healing factor.

​@@CodyMein the comic pictured the kid killed everyone while unconcsious

So yes, they had many options, but this wasn't about the kid they could have helped the kid, but they couldn't cover up all the death he caused in his hometown and if it got out that this kid was a mutant and caused it all and was still alive it could be a DoFP set up and that wasn't something that Xavier and the X-men were willing to deal with so Logan was sent in there to give the kid a mercy killing since he's the only one among them that would be able to approach him with out dying

not rushed. Its a beautifully crafted ending where the kids accepts his death after losing everything and everyone. he has nothing left and if there was a chance of helping him it wasn't worth taking it since he could of ended the lives of more people.

He killed every living organism in 2 minutes it would be way too dangerous to let him live specifically with the amount of villains they face😢

Not really. He just destroys organic matter in a small radius around him. He's not indestructible or a super genius or able to fuck with the fabric of reality. Faced with a robot or a guy with a healing factor and he's just a kid again.

Not the most powerful but one of the most dangerous

​@@RaccidoI wouldn't call a small town "small radious"

@@CRSB00 I would when we're talking about "most powerful mutant to ever exist". Some of the people on that list threaten galaxies.

@@Raccido and you would be wrong, being small comparred to somethong else is diferent to just being small, the same way an elephant is small compared to a blue whale but that doesn't make elephants small

The school is for teaching control. This kid would literally kill everyone before being taught control of his power.

What's Xavier supposed to do? No one can be around the kid or they die unless they have a healing factor like Logan's.

@@DemonFireRain And even then, we've seen proof that his healing factor can be overwhelmed.

the fear is justifiable at points but they take it to extremes groups like the FoH, the purifiers, they kill mutants just for being mutants not because they can dod something

@@wintertrooper7918 FOH was introduce around when mutant were not that powerful and most mutant didn't have crazy power, so their hate was meant to be more ridiculous sense most of those they hate can't really hurt them. Like the old lore used to be that most mutant had either a physical mutation (like big hairy or a big nose), weak to useless power, or both and the Mutant like the Xmen and Brotherhood who had useful power with minor or no physical mutation were consider the top 10 percent. Even among those their Mutant that ability more of a disability or a danger to themselves. Powercreeping that came later sort of made the Fear justified but never really dealt with except for few issues like these.

What I don't get is how some people can hate and fear mutants, but love and adore the Avengers and F4 when members of their roster can potentially cause just as much if not more damage than the kid in this short.

@SuperboyLilly and then the sane media portrays destructive saviors like Iron man as beacons of human excellence who should be worshipped as such

@@SuperboyLilly I remember reading one comic issue that had a Avenger/Xmen Crossover. It mention by some governments that Magneto actions sort of made mutant instead of being viewed as a minor problem, to instead a global problem. Government actually said in a issue that no one really seriously thoughts mutants were a threat save for a few but Magneto action made more people and natiom realizing they are a global threat. Early Marvel people who had power rarely flex it enought to show that they are a global problem and most of the other heroes manage to keep thing quite enought that the government don't view them as a threat. Like most of the Avenger villain in the early day just robbed a bank and those that can do more are rare or delt with in a way that people don't know about it, but as comic went on they push up the Threat level to the point that everything is a global or universal threat and making it harder to cover it up. Avenger actually mention that they sometimes can't deal with certain issue because it they did people will start to think that people with power can dictates how society and government are run, and that would make Norma people hate super power people more if they think they are powerless for change.

To be frank it’s kinda hard to use anything that vaporizes organic matter in a “good” way. At least with a fire ability he doesn’t HAVE to kill his target but if your vaporizing someone there’s just no coming back.

Don't listen to this boring bastard ^ Enjoy Life whilst it's good

Who?

@fangsabre I can't remember what we were talking about but it was probably nothing anyways

This is ultimate marvels solution which is very different from normal 616

@@mero7731 Either way, it's almost certain they took the idea for this comic from My Hero Acadamia, as it's how Shigaraki started out, killing his family with pretty much the identical ability.

@@LlorDrei You got the order wrong. My Hero Academia took elements from both Ultimate Spider-man and X-men. This specific comic came out a decade before My Hero Academia even began. This is Ultimate X-Men #41, which released in 2004, and MHA came out in 2014.

@@dushaunlewis7574 Actually makes a lot more sense, considering how many Marvel and DC allusions MHA makes with it's characters.

@@LlorDrei How young are you to even think an X-men story copied MHA? Horikoshi is literally a massive Marvel fan

Because he'd kill them. Hell, the only reason the likes of Wither weren't killed is because his power requires skin to skin contact. This kid was on another level, and this isn't the only time Xavier has done this. Matthew Malloy is another famous example.

Because of the kid doesn't require touch to wipe you off the map. It's also a teenager we're talking about

He would have to be somewhere almost completely secluded with almost no interaction with anyone other than Wolverine or someone else with a powerful healing factor. If I remember correctly, his ability instantly kills anyone around him within a certain radius with no way to turn it off, and the only reason Wolverine survives is because he can heal.

@@Sicarius_Avindar full body suit?

@@SmokeyOwOs the guy above you says otherwise lol.

Bro they just Merk any happy ending unless he kills

@@bonbon372 yeah

This is another universe Earth 1610. The universe Miles Morales came from. The Forge from earth 616 made the cure gun not the 1610 variant.

@@m.k.o7610 That doesn't exactly work in the comics' favor. They've been slamming the reset/new continuity button like a slap chop to fix their buggy logic for decades now. It's no longer feasible to keep track.

​@@ember3579Huh? At the time this came out it wasn't really hard to keep track of, the Ultimate Universe was very clearly its own thing and had a very limited amount of series.