Venom could unironically reply "--and I'm 5, He's more than twice my age!" As an attempt to brag that ends up just being mildly funny.

Given that Logan is technically a double centenarian, Spidey does look 12 to him.

@@drixg555 Spider-Man also got his powers at 15 and depending on when this was he would have been like 20-22 only 8-10 years older than 12 which is negligible to Wolverine.

@@xiphos8219 Spider-Man has been in his 30s for a while. He has literally had a divorce.

He be speaking about Miles Morales you know, he's about 12 or so. Pete should be in his mid 20's by now.

I would have asked Logan why he just doesn't leave the guy(Hulk) alone. Because that what classic Hulk was always saying. It's good enough as a comeback

Well it kinda is when you figure out spiderman has boxed the hulk before and held his own

Except there is, because Venom is actually canonically stronger than Hulk now (he ended up defeating Dark Carnage who equalled a symbiote-boosted Hulk in a fistfight, and then became even stronger after that in the King in Black event). Also, Venom threw hands with Juggernaut, who is Hulk-tier, and won. So yeah.

I’ll say “Yeah! Prof. Hulk that is” or “just like ciclops stabbed jean!”

Lmfao

Strangely wholesome

Wait Venom is a mutant?

@@luqmuhmmad2616 Nah, I'm saying since Logan is one he's had to put up with people treating him like a monstrosity despite not even looking like one

@@Grassphobic Agreed. Even though Venom ain't a mutant, he ironically looks more monstrous than the majority of the X-Men (even Beast looks more like a person than Venom's huge white eyes and needle-like teeth), and he's also been pelted with accusations of being a monster despite genuinely wanting to do good (even at his worst, he was never aiming to hurt innocent people). When Logan was making fun of Veno, he was basically roasting his past self.

Yessir. This is what I really love about darker heroes. They’re able to understand and empathize with people’s struggles, and that compassion allows them to help even the worst kind of person

Bruh… lmao I know he needed a drink after that “talking to”

@@wzrdkeli4317 I needed a drink too! 😂

“Whisky?” “NEAT, PLEASE” “Do you wanna talk about what just happened…?” “AFTER MY THIRD DOUBLE, YES”

Venom should have looked at the bartender, put his hand to his mouth, point at Wolverine and say "That guys crazy".

Ive had thise kinda days too.

He ain’t wrong.

@@dfong8870 he aint wrong at all lmao, he put venom in his place🤣

He's a boss that's for sure !

I thought he was going to call him bub

The devil is in half the details...

All 7 infinity gems, heart of the universe, and a cosmic cube to boot.

The bartender Is like the Gardner with shotgun of dbz, his Power Is beyond infinity.

I wish there was one more panel of the bartender just setting a beer out in front of Venom. "Looks like you could use this" Then went off to grab a broom.

He's Balder.

Hahaha lol yeah a lot has change since the good old days

I think it might actually be that Brock and the symbiote hate Spider-Man so much their bond was strong enough for them to consider themselves one thing. Kinda like how carnage and Cassidy are a perfect match and therefore they don’t refer to themselves as “we” just “I”. But I like your interpretation too!

@@Metabolter Both of you drive great scenarios!!! 👍👍

Carnage and Cassidy aren't connected through their nervous system like Venom, and that's why they say "I", right? They're bonded through the blood. I could be wrong. Anyway, I hated to comment and break up the 222 likes and 2 comments on this subthread.

@@Metabolter I think it's the symbiote talking in that moment, because you know how Peter's Life got ruined when the symbiote started changing him

@@rogerfreeman6787 I could be wrong as well but isn’t that just in the movie? Like the chocolate thing and draining life force energy? I don’t think that’s the case in the comics, or I just never came across it.

Underrated comment

he only served in 3 wars not every war known to man hes only like 200

@@novatheboss2 civil war, ww1 and 2?

Wolverine:Oh look at Venom Jr gonna cry?

@@Raccon_Detective. XD

Omfg I can't not see one MCU spider-man hater do I

@@dbhe02 I think they just being kinky, there a whole group of people who likes seeing somebody getting beat up, it kinda like a fetish.

@@dbhe02 Well, I just hope they don't send death threats to Tom Holland. I get it, I also enjoy Tobey Maguire's Spiderman and Andrew Garfield a lil bit more than MCU Spiderman but I still think MCU Spiderman is alright.

@@frog6054 I mean do you not like seeing Spider-Man beat up people? Or superheroes in general 🤣🤣 Also how is this guy hating, you know it’s possible to like a villain and a hero right?

@@dingleberry4234 I never said this guy was hating, I said he's being kinky. You should talk to the other guy that outright said he is a hater. Pardon me.

I'm pretty sure these two have fought at this bar before

Giving Venom that jaded, just-another-day-at-the-office stare.

That’s the bar wolverine always goes to and he regularly has fights there, he knows the bartender personally aswell

He's probably not worried because he has mutant damage insurance.

Probably waiting for him to get a drink 🤣🤣

At last to become god nul replacement

Yes!!! Thank u!!! Facts

We are good boyz~!!! -Venom/Eddie Brock

A lot of people hate villains becoming heroes but if done well over time I think it works. The Emma Frost, Juggernaut and Venom we have now took many years and some occasional relapsing into old ways to get to where they are now.

Too being the very last human to exist, before venom left his dead husk

"My wife is hot, and she's supportive of my life-threatening lifestyle. She loves me very much. What did I do to deserve such a tragic fate?"

@@SynthApprentice Sssshhhh, Joe Mephisto will hear you.

@@SynthApprentice I have two questions for you. 1. Have you been living under a rock since 2007? 2. Can I get under there with you? The rock sounds like a lovely place to be.

@@hpos1086 is there room under that rock for one more…?

@@SynthApprentice Tell me you’ve never read a Spider-Man comic without telling me you’ve never read a Spider-Man comic.

I noticed that too. I almost think it would have been better with him wearing his biker jacket

Nah he goes to that bar all the time in the comics, so for the locals it’s regular

He most likely goes to the bar after some superhero work so I guess he doesn't care to take it off at that point.

Hell, when they were filming Dr Strange, Benedict walked into a local comic shop, full costume, and bought some volumes. Including The Oath-great story.

He gets free drinks if he shows up in costume

"sat him down"

@@MKG176 I wanted to go with, “Glorious curb stomp,” but it doesn’t roll off the tongue as well.

Not many can just beat his ass while giving him the talk tbh

@@1rotzy I beg to differ. I think it rolls off the tongue perfectly. As a matter of fact, from now on when I ask if someone would like a seat, or if I may have a seat of my own, I'm going to replace sit and seat with "glorious curb stomp."

Yeah, it's funny. Wolverine is who you talk to when you think you're a monster. Spider-Man is who you talk to when you're not sure you're a hero.

😆

He LITTEARLY looks like the giga chad meme lol

Yea his Testosterone lvl is also very High

I think Venom could use his essence to choke Wolverine to death.

Venom is the only one with true weaknesses. Fire and sound

@@thatoneantoid51 Wolverine could just cut himself free and let his throat regrow. And so forth. On a one-on-one, there'll never really be a clear winner between these two

Literally one of Venom's weaknesses is something mankind has had access to since the stone age while taking just one of Wolverine's limbs off requires either immense amounts of strength, magical means of breaking adamantium, or something else that specifically cuts vibranium or bypasses healing factors.

@@thatoneantoid51 Wolverine in here literally stabbed holes in his neck to breathe and then just regenerated after.

Yeah this one isn't easy to scare lol

Hasn't wolverine in some iterations, *been around* for several lifetimes?

@@___d311 Earth 616 Logan is right under 200 years old

Literally several lifetimes lol. What's Wolverine up to now? 1832-2021... just shy of 200 years old. Lumberjack, soldier, spy, bartender, husband, samurai, assassin, SHIELD operative, superhero, supervillain, superhero again, schoolteacher... did i miss anything? Dude's been around the block.

@@___d311 Back in the late 90s there was a period where Professor X thought Wolverine might have been the first mutant. As in thousands of years old. But this plot got left in the dust a long time ago.

how did that save the planet. haven‘t read this comic

@@Dr.JonathanCrane Venom becomes captain Universe and saves the planet in King in Black.

@@assassinsknight That’s new Marvel, continuity is too broken to matter these days

@@BC08 Personally I take things one story at a time. The only books I’ve really kept up with are Donny Cate’s books on Venom and Thor. I really liked those runs, the rest I haven’t really given any time or money.

@@assassinsknight Cates and Aaron are the main guys driving Marvel canon into the dirt

Reminds me of the time Juggernaut beat up Colussus for causing a scene in a bar

Thank you Demod ! I appreciate it my friend

@@FernandoComicsOfficial can you do Superman vs Muhammad Ali

@@megabladechronicles962 and Wolverine just watches 😂

If you go back to the eighties there is an old Marvel two in one where the Things walks into a bar and sees the Sandman having a drink and he picks up a barstool and is about to hit him with it and Sandman says go ahead he doesn.t care and the Thing instead sits down and they talk over a beer it is a great story with the only fights being in flashbacks.

Messed with his confidence a few times, you can tell !

Of course They had reasoning skills..They never were mindless...just single focused on Spider-Man

Well yeah. He ain't Carnage.

@@MantraMan2077 I was going to say the same thing you beat me by two hours

Really come to think of it only someone like Logan can actually reach out to the venom duo and walk away. So i think its new for the symbiote to step out of a battle and reflect.

@@MantraMan2077 so what makes carnage differ from venom? Is it because the first person he bonded with was cletus Cassidy or are they all just very unique?

Venom can’t even counter claim cause that would mean he has to give spiderman credit on something.

Hey Spidey is very strong too, but his strength was always underutilized by his writers. He's not Hulk's level of str but he's not that far, just like Thor.

@@1973Ganesh Isn't Hulk stronger than Thor?

@@damsen978 Marvel puts Spidey's strength far below Hulk's. Example from their strength scaling: 0. Feeble(Professor X) 1. Normal(Dr. Strange) 2. Athlete(Nick Fury) 3. Olympic(Punisher) 4. Enhanced(Black Panther) 5. Remarkable(Captain America) 6. Incredible(Spider-Man) 7. Amazing(Carol Danvers) 8. Monstrous(The Thing) 9. Unearthly(Savage Hulk) 10. Cosmic(Thor) And also according to the creator of both the Hulk and Thor, he says Thor and Hercules were made to be stronger than the Hulk.

@@1973Ganesh They'll always bring in one of the stronger versions of the Hulk during the arguments, they're pretty much throwing in the towel when they do that. Hence why I also typed "savage Hulk" instead of just Hulk, so none of them can come and say "but whatabout...."

Insult to injury at its finest lol

He’s a teacher at xaviers school, Venoms a beast but he’s not exactly bringing anything logan hasn’t seen before.

Don't worry, the comic was BS

@@GreaterGrievobeast55 fair point !

@@FernandoComicsOfficial can I join your discord server again?

@@cosmicnature6801 why you leave it bro ??

Agreed, Frank with those great comics as usual. Hope they keep the Punisher stuff coming. 🙏

Honestly got back into comics with that series wish we could see more

Alright here's a question to think on what do you think would beat the other the hunger virus or survivor 21 (the cannibal virus) if a zombie infected a cannibal would survivor 21 counter act it since it was made to help survive anything or if a zombie was infected or doused in survivor 21 would it reversed the process or would it be over whelmed by the hunger virus and turn the infected back into human or then turn them into a cannibal and when i mean doused i mean the way Frank was covered in it making him immune to it Or heck which side do you think would win in an all out war the hunger gospel's super undead army or all the cannibals combines into one tribe and by all i mean ALL including the normal humans to make the hulks huge tribe look like an ant colony

@@humanity600 have you read punisher THE END of the the end line it's so damn cool perfect punisher story

@@the_priest_of_holy_moon_cult not yet but I will now.

Really I do hate they whole "Its up to the writer" bull shell, its why we get Thor killing Galactus in his title but losing to Moon Knight in the Avengers. I get why its a thing but I would rather there be a set power level and they have to get clever with the writing. Like here....Wolverine and Venom would end up fighting for days and in the end Logan may be overwhelmed cause he still needs rest eventually. Logan's dangerous not because of his power....its his 180 years as a warrior trained by the best and honed by battle. Eddie and Venom can't hope to match that experience.

@@LaughingOwlKiller Completely agree; I think this was handled extremely well, respecting both characters. It's sadly a common trope in comics to have a character being a jobber to make others take the spotlight; without any concern to the consistency issues that may bring. I still cannot overcome the fact that a comic where Squirrel Girl defeated Thanos ever was conceibed; I understand is a joke character, but tbh it is just unfunny and lazy; as ridiculous as Thor losing to MK.

Yeah both of these characters are extremely strong in their own rights and can't easily come out on top over one another. Having it be more of a mental game is the most respectful overall to give an excuse for a fun fight

It is up to the writer though. Different writers will have different interpretations or views on characters and their strength and portrayal of them. And that’s okay. Makes for a good variety.

@@LaughingOwlKiller even the most battle hardend combat vets with 30-40 years of experience cannot hope to defeat a grizzly bear with just a knife.

Against Venom Spiderman can't hold back he would die

@@MrSegadude21 depends on the writer I suppose, I have seen him pulling punches to not hurt whomever Venom has taken control of.

@@noahwattel4226 it's usually Eddie Brock or Mac Gargan, neither need to be forced to hurt Spider-Man.

Doc Ock found out and was like "Holy shit this guy could have killed us without thinking twice."

Wolverine only knows that because spider man slammed him ( Tho it was Otto in his body it's still his body)

That's facts

That game on PS2 was literally my childhood

Was looking for this comment VENOM literally absorbs a motorcycle like WHAT

Needs a remaster so bad

Same thing

I love Castlevania.

but who is it by cuz, i've tried looking for it on here & no version is exactly like this

I heard this in naruto i think

Bloody Tears is always a win!

Yeah, these are few and far between honestly

Thanks to the sjws. Who’d rather push there far left Marxist agenda then write good stories. Main stream comics are now nothing more than propaganda leaflets yes green arrow and green lighting did that in the 70s but the difference was quality storytelling artwork action and a balanced presentation of views from the left and the right if your gonna throw politics and social issues in the mix that’s the way to do it. Personally I prefer to just be entertained and immersed even educated but not preached and talked down to. I ll just stick to classic stories from the back issue bin

Yeah the writers are to busy turning everyone gay instead of giving us good stories

Ugh... feelings. 😬

@@greyfenrir2238 same which I don’t like because I want straight couples I also want a comic letting people get married like Peter and mj but sense we have still it can’t happen right now without him gone

That exactly what I was thinking. Maybe that's what they got it from?

That's an awesome idea !!

I mean, if we're going by accuracy, then Wolverine wouldn't have been able to even slow Venom down.

As soon as you mentioned that he’s not the only one suffering or has been wronged before, I was thinking of Three Day’s Grace - Riot.

Aren’t him and Peter buddies still?

@@tek512 We know how plot armor in comics work though for popular characters. Reality, Venom beats his ass down but writers do differently all the time.

@@tek512 Are you sure Wolverine have fighted against some really strong guys like Hulk and hold his own! his claws can cut anything!

it’s just so believable. He remind me of Vegeta and there’s no way I can hate on that dude

You could say it was a humbling lesson.

"PARASITE!?" LMAO.

i loved the lethal protector comics when i was a kid. i can totally see this being a contributing factor to venom calming down a bit.

Venom is stronger than wolverine

@@pullupenthusiast3800 You could be the world's strongest man, but that won't stop a sword from cutting through them.

@@bluemooninthedaylight8073 makes no sense to cut thru venom he will just heal lol

@@bluemooninthedaylight8073you know he can literally just heal right?

@@humanity600 Yeah. Against the dude who can heal *faster*

This also wasn't a fight to the death, but a narrative fight. Wolverine won because he convinced Venom not to drag the fight on. A real fight to the death could have been different. Or the same. Close fight.

@@Dizastermaster. true true. The stakes have always mattered the most. Did you see Spider-Man destroy Wolvie as the Dr Octopus version Superior Spider-Man?? And spidey and Venom are very close

@@Dizastermaster. Venom would ragdoll him then leave him webbed up when he got bored. As far as stats are concerned, Wolvie vs Venom is like an experienced 3 year-old with knives vs a heavyweight veteran boxer.

@@Bragglord nailed it. Wolvie is best there is at what he does kinda finished up in 1979. He's too low tech ... love him though

@@Bragglord i agree. Wolverine would lose to Venom the same reason he lost to Spider-Man

Yeah I'm not one for reading comics really. This channel definitely helps animate it at least somewhat which I love

yeah but in all honesty Venom would body Wolverine. he’s been bodied by spider-man a couple of times so i don’t see what he would do to someone like Venom who’s ragdolled spider-man.

@@sideeyed7682 i think this was ultimate universe or a horrible writer

That duck is the one below all sercretly taking away venoms W😂

Well if someone like Logan made you doubt what you are doing, your focus in battle will be destroyed. Sure Venom could beat him but Logan can last long enough to make venom feel bad for himself. Thats what I think when I saw this fight.

Venom is a joke compared to The Hulk, who is the one Wolverine struggles with.

@@RedLithic wolverine vs hulk was not close fight anymore ,it used to be close in classic hulk comics, in any modern comic hulk usually treats him like a fodder. Also wolverine kinda works against hulk since he is faster than hulk, his weapon can hurt hulk and he is very durable himself,but venom is basically a counter for wolverine,he is faster, stronger to boot

@@RedLithic Venom is also faster and more versatile than the Hulk, so the comparison holds no weight.

@@Bragglord Wolverine is much faster than he looks. In superior Spider-Man he spit blitzed doc ock who was in Spider-Man’s body. Not to mention his healing factor just makes him a tank.

But healing factor

Yeah healing factor and doesn't that healing factor also erase a memory of him suffering?

@@GOATTalk-oq2kq Healing factor won't save him from being infected with a symbiote via blood like Carnage.

This

I agree the music brings it to life just enough so that the effects seem out of place

Thank you for the feedback my good man 🙏 I really appreciate it ! No worries though, I'm just barely figuring out what I can do. I'll keep improving!

Didn't something like that happen that involved a Tyrannosaurus symbiote with Old Man Logan?

lol wolverine and Zabuza in fact share the same voice actor, steve bulm as well!

Agreed Bovine !!

I think you mean Tod MacFarlane lol

@@foxxykunai5840 how did I even get Seth McFarlane 😂 that's a crime right there

Yeah that'd be wild if THE Venom stuck to Wolverine

I think they've retconned it so that the symbiote actually stuck to wolverine in the distant past or something

@@Tonystoys721 any idea what eventually made it leave? I mean, Wolverine would feed it for hundreds of years!

@@FernandoComicsOfficial wouldn't it?? Now with the collective mind being a thing for the symbiot, "race", could you JUST imagine the impact Wolverine's mind would have on them?!? 😜

As far as I'm aware each time they've fought has been a draw or wolverine winning.

@@Rix54A yeah, but it makes no sense. Venom is many times more powerful than Wolverine. So is Spider-man, for that matter, and he's beaten Logan several times without breaking a sweat.

And yet wolverine not only has beaten the hulk before, but in his even weaker elderly state killed an entire civilization of hulk's, and that's not even counting the time they gave him a story line where he kills the entire marvel universe, cause Deadpool wasn't the only one that did that.

Your absolutely right about Wolverine not beating Venom. However, there's one more thing to be said. This wasn't a Victory where Logan won by pure might. It was a Victory earned by reason. If you can't beat em, talk em down the best you can.

@@maxburrill6192 I agree, but for different reasons. You can have all the strength in the world, but it doesn't matter if any blows you deal heal up in seconds and your opponent can go on seemingly forever. Both venom and Wolverine having these abilities makes it so that neither will come out the victor even after they tear each other to shreds.

How is a bodybuilding reporter smarter than someone who's been through most major wars for the last hundred years? Not as sure what the symbiote has been up to in fairness.

@@RedLithic the symbiote is billions of years old bro and as of now is the leader of the hive mind I believe too

Venom has had some huge upgrades recently, yes. Not relevant to this particular fight years prior to that though, except anything the symbiote was getting up to before spiderman.

Not exactly. Logan cannot truly die, except by extreme means (ex. Cosmic influences or weapons that negate healing factors). KO’ed? Yes. Killed by Venom? Nope. Venom CAN DIE. Please read the Dark Carnage and the King in Black series, where the Venom symbiote was on the edge of death…several times. Logan’s healing factor is the top 3 in the Marvel universe, along with Deadpool and Hulk. Venom’s is quite good, but doesn’t beat Logan’s. Venom wins because the author dictates it. Otherwise, because of Logan’s weapons, martial arts experience, and long life and stamina, he can hold pretty well against Venom. It’s all about the story itself. Either could win 50/50.

@@ggarzagarcia None of what you said matters to winning a fight. His martial arts are pointless (Martial arts are not meant for fighting a tentacle monster), his healing is pointless, his experience is worth some but not much. Venom go full hentai with him and wrap him up where he can't move and suffocate him in every situation they fight. Only possible win is an ambush, which he can't do cause of Venoms version of spider senses. He can then just leave him in a volcano or buried in concrete or throw him into the ocean and leave. I'm not ignorant on Wolverine, in fact he's one of my favorite characters, and Venom is cool but not in my top 20. I just recognize obvious logical issues that people like this writer don't. Venom is just strong to someone like Wolverine.

I thought this was just a mental warfare between Venom and Logan and it made Venom doubt his actions.

@@eugeo5391 I mean, you can go with that and it can make some kind of sense but honestly it's a bit silly thinking you can talk down to a creature that's done battle with Carnage. Not much should scare you in this situation.

This is more of a psychological fight because Wolverine got into Venoms head.

Adamantium skeleton, not adamantium skin, nor adamantium laced organs. Just the skeleton.

@@F3EDER that doesn't answer the question. He went clean through wolverine's entire body. He shouldn't be able to do that

@@HeroOfJusticeYT He went clean through with black goo. The goo would just shape around his bones.

The writers forget on a regular basis