No not at all Peter fought a weak hulk

@@ethanb6539 that’s savage green hulk. Very much the most famous hulk and one of the strongest versions of hulk

@@ias787 nope green scar n base immortal hulk is the strongest savage was the strongest 10 years ago

@@ethanb6539 i never said he is the strongest version of hulk. I said ONE of the strongest version of the hulk

@@ias787 not when he first starts off Tho it takes time for him to reach the level of power speed etc of wat you’re thinkin of

Just Cars??... He managed to support an entire ginormous Skyscraper!! If not MORE then this. And yeah, big green is also far more then just a primal monster.

This is Child Compassionate Savage Hulk not Adult Angry Bitter Savage Hulk even the personalities have inconsistencies sometimes especially with Savage Hulk being so different with many incarnations like the one who was separated from Banner after fighting Onslaught and went on to man handle Gladiator was a Bitter Adult like Savage Hulk

@@catiloh6086 That's called Bannerless Hulk. He's ridiculously powerful.

More people tend to sleep on the first fact rather than the second but people still forget about the second fact as well

@@alissa6, Without inhibitors, Yeah he still becomes immensely powerful.

Even hulk understand what spiderman going through

I know that feeling man.

I’m sorry truly about that.

I love that hulk didn't hold it against him.

​@Shak actually yes he didn't. He even said that he is strong

Yeah. Hulk could've bodied spiderman at any point of this fight but he didn't because he didn't want to hurt him and just tried to get spiderman to leave. At the end when he realized spiderman was hurting emotionally he just let spiderman hit him until he calmed down. Hulk didn't even budge when spiderman kept hitting him towards the end and spiderman just ended up hurting his own hands.

@@calebstephan2083 yeah hulk here was very compassionate. Even mentioned he lost his own wife pretty sure that's why hulk didn't rage he felt a bond with Spidey. Spidey was also for quite some time one of the few who was able to talk an enraged hulk down. Hulk defiently could of bodies Spidey but just wanted to be left alone

Right? I hate when writers try to make the Hulk some super dark, almost demonic creature that's barely on the right side, if he even is. This was always the Hulk. Misunderstood, constantly tragedy-stricken, temperamental, but never truly a monster at heart. Just wants people to be nice to him or leave him alone. Why make it something other than that?

@@calebstephan2083 not really. Hulk would find it impossible to land a hit on spidey. If these two fought for real then it would be a stalemate as spidey can’t hurt hulk and hulk can’t hit spidey.

@@truecreation8803 wrong hulk is deceptively fast and has bested Spidey countless times but Spidey cand go toe to toe for at least a bit

Yeah thats why the character works

There's still a human in there. "Banner is strongest of them all"

@@jimkid1392 Indeed. Remove Banner and he becomes the emotionless "personafication of rage", there'll be no one inside of him to limit his strength. The most powerful version of Hulk.

I agree bro, this is one of my favorite versions of Hulk, how I always see him in my head basically.

@@alissa6 kinda ironic, cuz the most powerful hulk is created when banner and hulk are one(green scar)

Peter is a genius, but he's not always all that sensible.

Actually that would be the best bet, not many Heroes around that can handle him going completely all out and in the back of his mind he did know that The Hulk was good.

@@maylabrown4584 Well I”d prefer my stress balls to not break my hands when I hit them too much.

@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Well if you had a Healing Factor that can casually heal broken bones (especially knuckles) then I doubt that'd be much of a problem.

Ah yes, common sense 100.

no spiderman just holds back all of his strength he could punch through hulks head if he wanted to at any moment

@@thatdudemin3139 No he couldn't. Spider-Man has like 20-30tons at best in lifting strength, whereas the Savage Hulk(the normal green Hulk that most comics feature) has 70tons lifting strength before he gets more by getting angry. Hulk's durability is almost equal to his strength so Spider-Man with his 20-30ton serious punches wouldn't do much apart from bruising Hulk.

@@maguserebus4950 so how did he lift a bunch of underwater supporting beams They most definitely weigh a over 2,000 tons each beam

@@thatdudemin3139 Hulk can regenerate his heart entirely in mere seconds, he can go toe to toe with sentry as sentry unleashes his full power, he could simply crush Peters brain with his grip. Peter holds back a lot for sure, but not even peter is a match for the Hulk if he lets go.

There are guidebooks and narrator statements of Spidey going toe to toe with characters out of his power class.

Thor, Classic Juggs, Blue Marvel, Sentry, etc, all could easily take Spidey's best shots and just shrug.

@@patrickshelley09 anyone that he deals with deals with on the norm. Also I’m fairly certain that the Sentry hadn’t been created as of that storyline.

@@patrickshelley09 I think he could at least make those head go back

Spidey is stupid levels of strong but I put him just in the heavy hitters club not on the same level as hulk or Thor. Spidey has held up buildings before but hulk and Thor have held up Manhattan

@@patrickshelley09 surprisingly one of the few people to have beaten juggernaut it Spider-Man but it wasn’t a just a straight one on one battle and Spider-Man had an upper hand

Doc Ock was the first villain to give Spider-Man an L,But Peter was also young and overconfident cause nobody could beat him at the time..That fight really humble him.

Haha nope not wolverine either. Fighting wolverine is a nightmare to a lot of ppl but spiderman gave wolverine nothing but L 's too every time they clashed.

@@blkshredder-x5681 He's using the dash to quote, saying this is probably something wolverine would say

@@Vulcan23 sounds more like suggesting a possible match but I already stated the fact above. So far the only heroes I know gave him the most L's are Spiderman and Black Panther. He tangles with the Hulk a lot but slipped some W's here and there so...

@@blkshredder-x5681 literally no one is disagreeing Im just saying no one asked -Peter Quill probably

This.👍

Yeah,Hulk comes out looking better funny enough

As stan lee has put it we are all the hulk a rage of emotion one minute a caculated scientist the next. Spider man has always been my favorite but hulk. Hulk is always my second i relate to them both every day of my life..

Ok

This is the kind of story telling skills that I love to see.

To be fair hulk has acknowledge multiple heroes strength, not only spidermans. It was still clear in this encounter that hulk was still vastly superior to spiderman. He didn't want to hurt spiderman, he just wanted him to go away. He could've just knocked him out when he grabbed spiderman but he just yelled at him and told him to go away. Heck hulk even stood still and let spiderman hit him towards the end of the fight and hulk didn't budge whereas spiderman just ended up hurting his hand.

@@calebstephan2083 ok I think dude know that

​@@calebstephan2083 I think a better representation of it is that spiderman is on the level of normal hulk if not slightly stronger, but enraged hulk is a decent amount stronger

⁠@@neelmodi7765 but that’s not the case now is it.

@@aperson3723 if you mean the MCU then no

2021 killed comics sorry

I happened to read this story when it was released around 2000. It is one of the last episodes written by Howard Mackie before leaving "The amazing Spider-Man" to Strackzynski (right spelling, I hope). Mackie was considered the worst ASM main storyteller in that period. I'm glad someone else is enjoying these stories of his, which I liked when I first read them. I don't mean Mackie was the greatest ASM runner of all time. I mean he was far better than those who came afer Strackzynski, in my humble opinion.

@@ethanb6539 not really ever heard about Immoral Hulk?

@@Gabe600 yes really n immortal hulk was the best run of 2020 n 2021 your not makin any points

For real though, this one really made me FEEL, like such powerful actions and words expressed in a "simple" yet complete way. Truly love these Spiderman books (also really like Hulk, reminds me of my late father, was his favourite marvel character).

100%. amazing fight

yeah. his agility and spidersense can help him dodge at least most attacks, but it's not like he's really damaging the hulk at all

He surely isn't as strong as Hulk can get, but Spider-Man strength is the most underrated thing in Marvel.

Yes. Definitely a wholesome fight. As much as Spider Man is one of my absolute favorites and i will always root for him, I know the Hulk will always be the epitome of raw power. Spider Man is not incapable of hurting the hulk in minuscule ways, hitting him at weak points, breaking an extremity or even, under extreme circumstances, maybe a limb ...maybe. But we know he would certainly die at the hands of a raging Hulk. It's unfortunate, but it's facts. I love that the writers keep this in mind and let the Hulk just allow Peter to alleviate his stress.

@@secoTheSonicFan cough cough civil war

@@lemongrab9044 cough cough Batman V Superman

Exactly

Nope and the hulk he fought gets bodied by the thing

@@ethanb6539 the thing ain’t weak and has been fighting hulk for years. Hell he’s even fought Thor and Surfer. The thing deserves some form of respect.

yeah i always wondered...how much strong is thing anyways

@@michaelgarcia5680 the thing got taken down by shang chi and the fights you’ll talkin bout are either old or the character wasn’t going all out now in a vs battle the thing wouldn’t be weak as he can fight on par wit devil hulk but in marvels consistently wit power he’s spiderman level deal wit it

….huh…i never thought of it like that before? thanks man.

I hope in the movies hulk remembers Peter not Bruce the monster hulk it will be very wholesome to see hulk taking him under his wing and help each other out

@@El_Rick_TV there is no hulk in the movie it’s just smart hulk now

​@@El_Rick_TV oh right, wasn't there a comic really similar to the thing in the MCU where hulk remembered spiderman after something happened? Idk I forgot most of the stuff about it

Spiderman is not stronger than most. He is stronger than characters like Captian America or others in that kinda league. He doesn't rank in the top 10 or 50 in strength. I dont listen to guide books because in the prime they said he was a kid so he would get stronger but they dont really write him correctly.

@@realamericannegro977 You do understand that there are a lot of marvel characters that don’t have super powers but I like ninjas and white that or that do have superpowers and they are not on the same strength level as Spider-Man right?

There was a time in Marvel where Spider-man was literally #3 on the physical strength scale after Hulk and Thing. That was after Thor had been introduced. The cast has grown since then, and a few characters have inserted themselves into the rankings above Spidey, but the number of named Marvel characters above him is still far smaller than the number of named Marvel characters below him.

@@caffeinedelusions Also people keep forgetting that most of the other marvel characters have been portrayed in their physical peak where is Spider-Man is always supposed to be portrayed as the 15 year old kid he’s always been or at least mostly portrayed as young growing into a superhero look at the movies besides Rami most of them based around him in high school. The time of his most iconic villains. But in reality Spider-Man is really at his best when he’s an adult doing adult shit.

He isn't stronger than most marvel superheroes but he is among the strongest out of the street level heroes. I can literally name over ten heroes that can blow up planets and that's just the heroes I know of, their could be more. I love spiderman but nah fam.

Back in Black, Spider-Man vs Kingpim was great too

... Morbius?? It's morbin time

For fuck's sake, I can't take Morbius serious anymore because of the memes. I hate myself

@@SpiderGamerXxx BRROOOOO SAMMMMEEEE!!!

What comic do these two occur?

The comedy is that Tony Stark calls out the military on this EXACT THING in the comics. He basically makes a bet with General Ross that if he's put in command of the military force deployed for Hulk attacks, Hulk's property damage will go from the billion-dollar-range to pocket change and his approach will singlehandedly save the military budget. His strategy? When the Hulk starts roaring and squaring up, just have the military sit there and watch. Hulk does more roaring, the military does nothing, Hulk smashes a street to show off his power, the military does nothing. Hulk just... has nothing to feed off. He's used to them attacking him, but once it's clear they're not doing anything? He just jumps away, confused and harmless. Tony pays for the damage to the street out of pocket. And NO-ONE LEARNS FROM THIS.

@@MartyrisBisclavret HA! That’s hilarious. Where can I read that?

@@MartyrisBisclavret exactly what to expect from the government in the world of Marvel. Always screwing stuff up and never learning from their mistakes.

If only they realised what exactly he is - TOAA's counterweight - destined to destroy everything and anyone that was ever created. Thankfully even Hulk does not realise that. All these idiots keep prodding him and one day the collateral could just go mega.

@@livelife4928 Shit thats what I expect from every real government.

Yeah man this comic was a nice memory for me too ! Had to post it !

to be fair they are the same in how they got their powers . both are gamma radiation warriors

​@@thanoskitsos5710 I didn't know Spiderman's spider had gamma radiation

@Neel Modi he is . But the way they got it was different. Peter gains spiderlike abilities but banner had his fantastic minded friend take shape to a green monster .

spiderman is basically stronger than captain america

​@@madias1884 Spider-Man is stronger than Captain America. Given certain circumstances, he gets even stronger.

Yea I’m one slide he managed to pluck hulks fingers/grip off him and jump away

@Dmarcus Pineda depends on which ver u talking about. if u talking abt teenage peter then yes capt is a better fighter and tactician but adult peter, capt losses hard

MCU should let Hulk be. He's HAPPY. Let him havevthat

Neither was Chris Bosh

@@My6119 lmfao I see what you did there that's so fucked up 😂😂😂😂

Hulk gave up after Spidey mentioned his wife

Hulk didn't want to kill Spidey. He was annoyed. When Peter started venting about Mary Jane hulk just took it. The last few panels where hulk just taking it. It puts it into perspective that hulk was stronger physically, but also funnily enough emotionally at that moment. Spidey looked good the whole fight than the last few panels was hulk evening the play field really good comic imho

@@obsidianfrost9514 But Spider-Man didn't want to kill Hulk too

Actually hulk and spidermans power is still vastly distanced than that. Hulk when he goes all out nearly wiped out the dark dimension. Dormamus sister got so concerned of the destruction he was causing that she forced strange to send him back to Earth from him to calm down.the only version of spiderman that could keep up with a pissed off hulk is cosmic spiderman but that's spiderman with the uni power which is a source of power that isn't his own. It's a source of power that has used several heroes as hosts.

@@calebstephan2083 I think he was talking about calm Hulk (100 tonner)

Level 0 Hulk still close to a 150 tonner about 10 x that of Bug Guy.

@Call of Gruty Even Though guide books put Spiderman’s stats at around 20 Tons and “calm” Hulk at around 100 Tons, the actual numbers are higher than that by atleast 10 folds. The Handbooks were just oversimplifying things. But Hulk could get stronger than that. Like Trillions of Tons strong. So while it might be fair to say Spiderman could put up a good fight agaisnt a Base Hulk, it’s definitely an exaggeration to say Spiderman could beat Hulk outright no matter what because Hulk’s full potential when he’s angry is far above Peter.

@@boredguy6970 he lifts more than 20 tons dont trust those kinda books because every body writes spider man different

Yes.

Agreed

I think he's rated just fine where he is.

@@windandcloudshadow158 Not very underrated

@@windandcloudshadow158 No

Bro, spiderman wasn't thinking rationally. That's the point, he was basically constantly in panic mode and was taking it out on the hulk

My guess is he was holding back until he got hit into the newspaper because spiderman uses qips to occupy his mind, as well as to anger his enemies into making mistakes, but the 2nd option makes no sense so he was probably holding back slightly until then, he also didn't start bleeding until then so it makes sense

But why was Hulk blamed for crashing an airplane?Who was it?

Because his comics in 90s was awful. They treated MJ and Peter as shit

Actually it was because she was kidnapped. The fight about the lie just gave the kidnapper an opportunity.

@@daverhoden445 which doesn't change the fact that peter betrayed her trust.

Lol sounds about right accept this monster don't eat humans on a regular basis

I was looking for a complaint but I also couldn't find one... so I'll add one here: I don't believe they could have fixed the train track to the degree they did, allowing the train to continue past at high speed without derailing.

@@Haze01Smash yeah. The most logical way they could've stopped the train was if hulk just straight up stopped it with his strength. Repairing it in such a short time makes no sense.

@@calebstephan2083 Invincible train scene would like to have a word with you.

@Psychometrics spider andrews’s parents plane scene would like to have a word with you

One of hulks heaviest blows could kill spiderman. Hulk once when he was serious cracked Thors skull with a single punch. Thor is way more durable than spiderman. If hulk wanted to he could've straight up chucked spiderman across the city.

What's crazy is Spiderman always fights people and comes out on top or not dead when he's supposed to example being Hercules and Juggernaut

​@@calebstephan2083 depends on how strong the hulk is at the moment because it varies

@@Mannyhdz0052 tbh hulk was always stronger than thor one serious punch and thor ded

Lol Spiderman broke his hands while the Hulk wasnt even trying

@@rokomarkov3077 so?

@@simonviklund991 Im saying that wasnt a fight

@@rokomarkov3077 Bruh Spidey hurt the Hulk that's already amazing

@@outsmartyouroutsmarting467 Yes but he cant beat him

Hulk was being a real one here in this fight he knew Peter was going through some pain.

É porque , assim como o homem aranha, o hulk ( bruce banner) tinha alguem por quem lutar ( betty banner) e sabe como aranha, o que é dor e sabe como é perder alguem querido ( mãe e tio..) mas em meio à luta , percebeu como o aranha nao queria que ninguem se machucasse, pois as pessoas do trem em direção à eles nao tem culpa do atrito de ambos e poderiam morrer de graça, por isso o hulk ajudou o aranha a reconstruir rapidamente os trilhos pro trem passar...

yes i remember that issue. Realistic outcome of DD vs Hulk

@Akash Mishra, MGTOW Yes Spiderman is definitely strong and all but not on hulks level.

I remember him saying he staggered the Hulk and it either broke his hand or it nearly did it. Spiderman was much better back in the 70s

He bit him in the temple repeatedly and did break his hand. He mentions he got lucky and was able to catch him by surprise. It was a good comic because hulk later remembers him for doing that called him strong.

@@obsidianfrost9514 ok. This was before they started hiring fanboys to write for characters to make them over powered at convenient moments. Comics were better back then.

@@realamericannegro977 yeah inconsistency in comics is really annoying. Having someone perform a feat out of their normal range sometimes makes sense because adrenaline is a hell of a drug. But they do it to often and then retcon that feat a few issues later

@@obsidianfrost9514 what oisses me off the most is how Spiderman can do this to the Hulk and struggle with Kingpin after he oneshotted a T Rex only to act like he can't harm Hulk in any way nnow. i think comics stories should end to have better consistency

noticed that too LOL

Yes, this might be my favorite version of him !

I remember apt after that song play

@@yaqinmalul1364 apt? I don't understand, sorry, i am dumb 😂😂

@@Pantherachadris nah he meant aot, the o and p are close to each other on the keyboard

@@ItsskipppermyG thx

@@yaqinmalul1364 np

Peter:….all these years and you were able to speak in first person this whole time? Hulk: the first point was nice but you’re _really_ getting yourself right back onto the smashing block Peter: ya figured. see ya! *web slings away*

You summed up this ehole fight, basically lol

It took awhile in the comics befor hulk said much other then hulk smash hulk strongest you puny or leave hulk alone like literally every few years he would add a new word to his arsenal lol hulks been around awhile

@@roxannearmstrong6585 that's false,Hulk has always been able to talk since the beginning.. it's the movies and new mediums that potray him has not being able to speak.

Well you know what they say: Hulk Strongest There Is!

Yeah he's really poorly characterized in the movies

At the end maybe, but at the start he literally couldn't

I THINK abomanation did it and hulk was blamed. It was something like that and given hulks track record it makes sense they blamed first asked questions later.

@@obsidianfrost9514 classic old american guilty until proven innocent

@@noahwattel4226 yeah except in that era hulk was more a villian than a hero. He had killed thousands in his rampages and the pure destruction he caused in his rage was not small.

@@obsidianfrost9514 still despite that, it's not what he wants. And even if you are blaming a murderer for a murder he didn't do it's still unjust. Because even though he wasn't innocent in general(nobody really is), he was innocent of that particular murder. So you are still blaming murder on someone who is innocent

@@obsidianfrost9514 actually no armadeus cho said that Bruce banner constantly did math calculation to steer the hulk away from causing human casualties