I agree

Wow. This is the exact same logic people use to say that stores should be allowed to refuse service to Black people. They use this same logic. That’s really sad. What happened to you?

@@bartwilson2513 "Wow." Nothing happened to me, not that it's your business. My point still stands as is. If a bakery doesn't want to serve me, I'm not going to *make* them. Seems counterproductive to have someone who hates gays be forced to make my wedding cake. For what? My ego? Do you really think you have the right to *force* a private business to make you a cake? There are plenty of bakeries to go to. Leave a bad review and move on. I'm not a sadist. Are you? It makes no sense to support/spend my money in a place who hates my existence. They're free to refuse service, just as I'm free to spend my cash elsewhere.

@@bartwilson2513 would you want someone to mess with your cake or something? Because that's what you get when you *make* someone do something they don't want to do.

@@bartwilson2513 _"This is the exact same logic people use to say that stores should be allowed to refuse service to Black people."_ Be careful how you talk to a doctor or the person who prepares your food. If I can 'see' that you don't like me, I'll move on.

Emilee thank you… that’s why I don’t know why this made it to the news…

Isn't this the lady that got sued by some state guy that heard about the news article? I know of one lady that this courts and government people did not stop until she was destroyed financially. Man, finally a lgbt lady showed what real tolerance, compassion, respect and understanding should look like. Thank you lady for not being a biggot and tyranical maniac forcing an agenda on everyone.

Gay people in small rural communities need protections because there aren't plenty of other bakers that would love their business. It's good you have options but discrimination needs to be called out for sexual orientation to be a protected class across the country

Says someone who lives in a town with more than one bakery. I guess you also believe that a store should be able to serve white people only, too. That’s the same logic.

I have a feeling you're actually in ther majority here. There's just a very loud minority screaming because they want power over others whom they hate because of their religious beliefs.

Honestly ur comment has probably been the only comment that rightfully sees both sides. This comment section is so toxic it’s disgusting.

Well said. They both respected each others opinions and differences and went about thier lives. That's how grown people are supposed to act

Exactly, it’s amazing that both are handling this situation much better than the public. Very special people (“special” in a good way, of course)

Well said!

Well said!

Very well said

Obedient to rules that purportedly come from a "creator" for which there is absolutely no evidence for their existence? Sounds delusional to me.

@@Reno_Slim We see it as delusional to not know the Creator. Everything in the universe is one big accident. Nothing created a big bang that created all things. There is no purpose in life....that is all delusional.

@@lightstudent87 More than just delusional, it's uber delusional.

@@Reno_Slim if you knew Him, He’d make Himself quite evident, I can assure you..

So it ok to turn fat people down short people and so on

@@zoeboy720 indeed. The business shouldn't bully or insult them but they are allowed to refuse business to anyone.

@@zoeboy720 indeed. The business shouldn't bully or insult them but they are allowed to refuse business to anyone.

@@zoeboy720 matter of fact yes I agree with that. A business owner has the right to refuse business to anyone. Now if it puts a business owner out of business because of the attitude that's another subject. It's sort of like freedom of speech a person has a right to say whatever they want. Doesn't matter how foul and disgusting it is they still have the right to say it. But that person must deal with the consequences when they finish saying it.

@@thegame9132 Very true. But the offended party should not have the power to use the law to damage or destroy that business.

Right and I feel like taking something like this to court to force someone to go against their beliefs instead of accepting them like most of these people are pushing for ‘acceptance ‘ is wrong on so many levels! The most hate spreading people seem to be these ‘previously oppressed ‘ claimers.

@@anncarroll7354 Bullies

Absolutely!

Period

A doctor refusing to help someone that is gay is not fit to be one point blank. U sign an oath to help all patients.

They know the word. They will tell you the word of God if they catch you in sin. There hearts not far from God. That's why they being judged the worst by God. Cause they know what the word of God say about it.

Thats what she did.

@@mr.ponstan7522 the word of God say satan have fell from heaven. He will make war with the saints. Them devils that she was being used and led by already knew that cake shop stood on the word of God. That's why them devils led her there. Trust them devils don't want there cakes. Na. They don't want them cakes. The devil wants to desecrate his wedding with a believer of Jesus christ cake. The devil after the saint's. Not the world.

@@mr.ponstan7522 THE DEVILS CAKES HAVE NO VALUE. NOR DO THEY HAVE THE BLESSING OF THE LORD ON THEM.

@@mr.ponstan7522 all the devils cake shops. And them devils go after the cake shop that stands on the word of God. Because the devil makes war with the saints. Not the world. He got the world. The world holds no value with the devil. None, zip, 0. That devil is after what belongs to God. GOD tells his own be still. And know that i am God. VENGEANCE is the Lord's.

Bullies

And she said it in a very respectful way and wished her love and happiness.

When I was little when I misbehaved I told my parents that it was because my imaginary friend told me to do it...

@@katmorgandontcare3367 Religious people can’t just follow their beliefs? It is their human right

But she is discriminating by refusing service. It would be the same as if a store refused to serve black people yet claimed it wasn't discrimination or an example of racism.

They knew its policy and scoped it out. That is an on purpose attack, no doubt about that.

WOE UNTO THEM. YOU DON'T GET AWAY WITH TOUCHING ON GOD'S CHILDREN. WOE UNTO THEM THUS SAY THE LORD. THEM PEOPLE MISERABLE. SCIENCE HAVE JACKED THEM PEOPLE UP. CAUSE THEY CAUSED THEM TO BELIEVE A LIE.

She got her five minutes of fame, for a marriage that will probably end in divorce. Statistics are even higher for same sex couples. Just saying.

@@PrairieeGirl FIRST IT'S NOT A MARRIAGE. NOT AT ALL. THEM DEVILS AIN'T FOOLING NOBODY. GOD ORDAINED MARRIAGE BETWEEN MAN AND WOMAN. AND WHAT GOD HAS PUT TOGETHER. CAN'T NO MAN PUT ASUNDER. IF GOD SENT THAT WOMAN THAT MAN. THAT STUFF THEY DOING IS STRAIGHT GARBAGE. TRASH. AND IT HAVE NO BLESSING ON IT. CAUSE IT'S OF THE DEVIL.

@@PrairieeGirl MY FATHER IN HEAVEN NOT EVEN GOING TO ALLOW ME TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AS MARRIAGE.

But...but the government isn't involved. And even the bride to be is respecting the baker's believes. Wth are you pressing the matter?🤷🏽‍♀️👀

The government isn't intruding. Because the couple were respectful of her actions even though they are hurtful and discriminatory. But I don't need to tell you that. I'm sure you've faced discrimination due to your beliefs. I just feel very sorry for you, because you would not afford others the same respect you deserve. Private businesses used to make the same excuse when serving people of colour though and history does not look upon them kindly. Try to remember that when you're raising your child. There CAN be a balance between sticking up for your beliefs and harming others in an irreparably damaging way.

Would you say that if people didn't bake you a wedding cake because you married someone of the opposite gender? They could say marrying someone of the opposite gender is against their beliefs, and according to your logic, so could all private all private companies.

@Hey There easy to say when you know 99.9% of bakers will bake you one.

@TheRain if they offer the service they have to offer it to everyone. The client needs to decide if they are ok with the product they will receive which the business can control. Maybe the website won't be so good

If you live in a town with two bakeries. I guess if you don’t you just have less rights as an American.

Would you the same if a they denied making a cake for a hetero couple cuz they saw heterosexuality as wrong? No you wouldnt say the same thing

@@sheppee5608 yes, i would say the same thing, but thank you for assuming the worst of me. There are a tons of choices to get a cake, whatever your sexual orientation.

@@bartwilson2513 "rights" in American include liberty and tbe pursuit of happiness. Not bullying anyone you want into making a cake for you. They can go to any other bakery they like.

@@snape28 lmao quit lying, you would start protesting if that happend

Asking not to be discriminated against is not forcing you any believes on anyone.

@@mariatheresavonhabsburg she should just go somewhere else

@@juanitacolette5766 She did.

@@mariatheresavonhabsburg no

I just don't get why making a cake you're getting paid for is such a big deal? It doesn't impede on their religion in the slightest, but it will so on their business. At the end of the day, if they're a small store they have a right to refuse who they want and I wouldn't force someone who doesn't want to take my business to do so.

So would it be discrimination if the baker declined a satanic follower wanting a cake designed with KKK or Nazi symbols? Would you stick up for that too? The baker is a religious being who is doing what is best for her soul.. get over it...just go to another location that accepts that lifestyle.. obviously the insecure have to air their dirty laundry on the news... LOL

@@blondie4512 ah yes because the KKK, a group of people who DISCRIMINATE, are the same as LGBTQ+ people. Why hate people who love?? Hate people who hate

@@blondie4512 The swastika is actually a norse symbol that was used by the nazi's unfortunately. It actually is a really nice thing but some bad people ruined it.

So would it be okay if a homosexual baker didn't make cakes for straight couples?

@@calmdowncoulter6904 Who says that KKK doesn't love? They love their so called own people.. But the fact remains the baker felt she would be going against her faith to do this cake... so that's why I said doing a cake for KKK would also get declined as it would be against her belief.. The baker did not express AT ALL that the couple should convert and not be gay.. she just expressed what she could not do against her beliefs... We should not try and change people which goes both ways

You’re incorrect. Businesses that serve the public don’t have the right to refuse service based on race, color, religion, sex, gender expression, national origin, or SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

@@mikesteele05 ok maybe they don’t legally, but morally you should know what you’re getting into. I wouldn’t ask a Muslim to put pork in my food. Sometimes you have to be the bigger person and respect other people. I’m sure a million people will make them a beautiful cake it didn’t have to be this Christian lady and that’s ok.

@@jules1728 That bs. Why should a costumer go out of their way to see if a business is LGBT friendly before doing business? Do we need to see if a business is black friendly before a black person does business there? If you're open to the general public, you cannot legally refuse to serve anyone because of race, gender, nationality, religion , or orintation/gender identity. Can you refuse to obide by the law? Yes, but at the same time, they have the right to report you the BBB and other inteties for wrongful discrimination. Your prayerlife and worklife should be two separate things. Mingling the two will result in one person overstepping their bounds. Providing a service for a gay couple does not make you gay or a gay ally. It's a business transaction. Nothing more. These are probably people you'll never see again afterwards so why make a big deal out of it? Because you think it's wrong? It's not up to you to decide how others live their lives. Christians need to understand that freedom goes both ways. While it's true that people can worship any God or deitey they choose, you cannot impose your beliefs on others. Telling a gay person they shouldn't get married is imposing your beliefs. LGBT people have just as many rights to persue happiness as anybody else. Don't like it? Get out of the industry that deals with weddings, because majority of straight couples aren't getting married these days which means less clientele. They outa feel lucky gay folks still want to get married. That's leaving money on the table and if it doesn't make dollars it doesn't make sense.

As a believer of Christ Jesus you can't even bless that. Cause it's already cursed by GOD himself.

Cake is something you don't need when you weigh 400 pounds.

THAT WORD YOU SPOKE IS ALL TRUTH.

@@maureendavidson4635 That is mean.

nobody chooses to like dudes

Not to mention, blasting the name of the bakery all over social media so the vitriol and negative reviews can descend.

@@schroekate It was most definitely an indirect attack on this bakery business -_-

@@imtmvm9107 how though? Hiding your actions from the public is indicative of a guilty conscience. All they did was make public the businesses policy.

@@imtmvm9107 its a free market. You are free to deny services and others are free to criticize and not give you their business

Yeah, because Taking a 2 min interview is exactly the same as taking a court case to the Supreme Court 🙄

lol yeah, as an LGBT woman myself, if someone didn't want to cater to my lesbian wedding - I'd probably just leave as opposed to trying to get them to make it coz who knows what poison they'd put in that cake lmao.

@@Skyler_Momoko IKR! Keep the extra additives lol.

@@alexandrean6657 The extra ingredient is laxatives. Bon appetit.

Fr and that’s harassment

Sounds like all of you watch too much television

Money isn't god to some people.

they can believe and do whatever they want…and you do the same and take your business elsewhere. Still their loss.

Religious freedom

@@mandi3366 sure, nobody said anything against it.

One thing i learn from your comment is that, the baker is losing a lot of money by refusing. And it made me thinks how faithful he/she is to their religion by disregarding all the black lash and money. I need that kind of faith.

That's awesome.. and see I would now know not to go to your bakery because I am straight... but I WOULDN'T GO ON TV TO BLAST YOU EITHER.

Yes! If they can refuse us we can refuse them. Why can't everyone just be decent to each other. I got 99 problems and 98 of them are homophobes and judgemental people trying to force their beliefs on me and others (the last one is the mental health problems that honestly probably come from the discrimination)

you will go bankrupt

@@blondie4512 Yes you would Karen. You'd put it on a Facebook group and gossip about it to your friends and tell people not to go there.

@@diegobrando1960 I said I would NOT go on tv (or any media) and state this.. so no.. only a Karen would do that... like this bride did..

Victoria, you're being very judgemental for a Christian. Just saying.

@@edgarrett8822 it’s not being judgmental. It’s sticking by your belief. You can call out things that are contrary to your beliefs.

@@crissoa aka judging people. Enjoy your day.

@Michael Armenta Sr. don't you remember?

@@edgarrett8822 and you are being judgemental for judging her.

Exactly, From a legal stand point I think they should have that right but from a moral stand point. It makes no sense to me. where is the line? will they serve someone one who had pre martial sex, worked out a Sunday, has tattoos, drinks alcohol.

erm, your a christian that is less religious than other christians. More religious people are against gay marriage and don't stand for it. There's nothing wrong with the baker following his own thoughts on christianity, he respectfully told the women that his beliefs restrict him from baking his cake.

@@andrewchyu2892 What do you think of what I said, be interest to hear your view?

bro exactly, its just so odd to me.

@@moviewatcher4323 It sounded like you said that morally, they are incorrect for following their religion as much as they do. If you look at the statistics, the more religious people tend to not support lgbtq as much as the less religious people.

Me as an asexual. Did the cake they eventually got taste good?

And A + for the good grammar

Funny enough all my gay friends would be SO offended but that could be cuz they’re 13 and everything offends 13 year old white girls lol

@@tytheby5029 Baby, it's called there's a difference between complacency/ appeasing the straight person for their approval and having sense. Your friends are smart for their age. I'd advise listening to them. Sorry.

Being complacent isn't funny.

Amen!

Yes!

Amen!

You realize they just went to another baker. No one made anyone do anything 🙄🤦‍♀️

@@l.c.7955 But she's still spreading "awareness" lets face she still wanted to get a jab at the baker she just didn't want to make herself look like a jerk so she wants to use "awareness" to make herself look better

Didn't they do exactly that...???

@@l.c.7955 no they tried to shame them on the news for following their religious beliefs. That was very hateful.

@@janinedear-barlow Tit for tat

He made insects that bore into childrens eyes and causes them agonising blindness. Yeah. Perfect 🤦‍♂️

@@dazzag don't blame God for what he caused by letting the sin enter our lives

@@shadouxg7150 What utter nonsense. So does that mean you don't blame the devil for what he has done too? So God gets to (in your eyes) create everything and also cause endless heartache and suffering but isn't to be held accountable? So not only does he cause children to go blind, he is also a narcissistic coward. Yet you still blindly follow this con because you're weak minded enough to think it'll result in eternal life in a fictional realm?

@@dazzag the human accepted the sin, the devil's could haven't forced anything, just offering, and humans accepted it

@@shadouxg7150 you are actually insane

@@Tania-rg7jp I can't speak for anyone else but for me as a Christian I don't hate people who are gay but my beliefs will not allow me to participate in their union. Similarly if my straight friends who aren't married, have a house warming party I'm not coming to that. It's not a hate thing it's being obedient to the Word.

@@Lycie85 There you go, sis. No retreat, no surrender. Jesus is Lord!!

Lol. You are using the same logic that people use to support Whites Only businesses. You need serious help m

Christians teach acceptance and love above everything! Although it is difficult for all of us to be perfect, it applies to them

@@Emlane09 where did Jesus say anything about "acceptance"

if the roles was reversed would u still think the same way?

@@YahwehisGodandYeshuaisKingiamr reversed how?

Reversed would be if the cake baker was gay and said they wouldn’t bake a wedding cake for a Christian couple because it was against their beliefs. My answer would be the same, it is wrong and discriminatory.

Now let’s say you have a baker who doesn’t believe in marriage and won’t make wedding cakes period. No matter if you are gay, straight, religious, non religious, black, white etc. It would be fine to say no to a request for a wedding cake because it’s not a service you provide to anyone.

@@YahwehisGodandYeshuaisKingiamr pea brain energy

God bless you. U r so right ☺

Please, share what you've learned.

I needed this

Momma, Daddies, Pastors and friends might be studying the bible with us, generations love and share wisdom. What you really want is for people to find something in the bible that shakes all that family up and conforms us to your beliefs. I'm good thank you. God bless you.

Thank you

Just by saying something in general, fatty is picking a fight.

@@zerotodona1495 how old are you? 10?

I agree. Its religious discrimination, trying to get people not to go their business because they are following their religious beliefs.

@@EverybodyLovesSarah What you said made no sense. Of she told her she won't bake a cake, a normal person won't find someone else, not go on the media and announce the entire issue to the world. What she did makes no sense at all. Who announces that someone refused to bake a cake for them unless they are pained

@@EverybodyLovesSarah She obviously is standing by her believes. But the petty woman that's broadcasting the private issue and pretending like it didn't matter to her just sounds stupid to me.

@@EverybodyLovesSarah Did you see some side news about the business' thoughts? All your comments are about what they think, but they didn't even say anything else.

Same

Truth in love 😂😂😂😂

@@PollyannaXdoll you should try it. It will bless you.

Lmao, my truth is.. I'm bisexual and love both men and women and support lgbt+. Thanks for encouraging me to be open about it!

@@anika3398 you can be as open as you want. Just know that it’s a God given right to choose eternal life or death. Right now you’re CHOOSING eternal death. And you are following your feelings and not God’s values for your life choices. The ones you are following lead to spiritual death and eternal destruction. That’s not what He created you for or wants for you. He has a good plan for your life but you have to choose Him over lust.

@@grafxgrl8030 If this god of yours wants to regulate who I can and can't love to go to heaven, then I would rather just burn in hell.

It wouldn't be covered under that policy law though, you can only deny service based on attitude or your policies. This is considered discrimination, denying someone service for something they can't change, such as race or sexuality. Denying her service is against the 1st amendment.

That includes Twitter kicking off right wing extremists.

@@jericaneely949 Homosexuality is not a religious preference or stopping them from assembling, so how is it against her 1st Amen. rights? Even if it were true her rights do not over rule the bakers rights.

Oh like Twitter and Facebook?

@@ryker3508 damn it you beat me to it!

Its the devil. We wrestle not got flesh and blood. We already Got the victory in Christ Jesus. Amen.

And final?

Ah yes, the devil is attacking humans by..making us love whomever we want? How scary😐

Hail Satan

Yes, leave us alone because we leave you alone.

Amen

I’m a christian and I love all LGBT people. Not sure what God has to do with making a wedding cake for a beautiful couple.

@@feedthecath4025 you shouldn’t support them, baking them a cake for their wedding is supporting them in a way since it’s for their wicked wedding

@@feedthecath4025 and it seems like you support them ‘beautiful couple’ that’s disgusting

@@feedthecath4025 leviticus 18:22 do not lie down with a man as you would a women it is a detestable act or as the king James version puts it a abomination

So gay people belong to God?

@@jalenakeem5059 yes we do!

Skyler Momoko amen!

@@jalenakeem5059 the meaning of a rainbow in Christianity is different from what it means to the LGBT community. In Christianity, it's a reminder of God's promises (as explained in Genesis after the flood).

Scott D. Delano and what does it mean in the lgbtq community?

Why are you yelling

Just say you are a homophobe and leave.

Some of them do

A wedding cake isn't a right. And a private business has the right to refuse service from anyone. I thought the shop owner was respectful, and honest. She wished them the best. That's what politely disagreeing looks like. We are all human and should be treated as such, but we don't have to agree. That's actually our right.

@@Beena2020 There was nothing respectable about what the bakery-person did. She's an unevolved wench who can't get over her fairytales in order to do her job and help a fellow human being out. I will never understand these cultists.That said, it was her right to be a bigot and now everyone knows.

@@ryker3508 And the passive agressive woman who said she didn't mind, but talked about it on tv is right? That's not how you're being respectful of someone else's beliefs. The baker has her beliefs, and we can either agree or disagree with her. However, there are a lot of people who would be happy to provide a wedding cake for the couple. You shouldn't insert and force yourself, when you're not wanted. The owner has the right to refuse service for personal reasons, and the customer can't do shit about it.

@@ryker3508 she is respectable and I would by something from her because I agree with her views. Same with a Muslim bakery.

And ran to the news...

She said in the interview “beliefs are important to hold onto, I can applaud her for holding onto those”

@@Maeflower18 I can applaud, is very different than I do applaud.

Exactly!!

I get why people have an issue don’t get me wrong. A lot of the time it’s down to the religion they follow, but if I had a faith that stopped me from serving someone because of their sexuality, I’d be questioning the religion I follow.

They specifically target Christians.

@@Tania-rg7jp The common sense thing to do is go find another Bakery. End But, as everyone knows, it is an attack on Christianity. And, there will be Judgment to those who are involved.

No I don't but most homosexuals in this country weren't raised in those religions. They were raised in and discriminated against by Christianity/Christians.

@@Tania-rg7jp IDN about that with Buddhists. Jack mainly does cupcakes, cakes, etc. Not weddings.

@@porchhonky6844 Some probably were, but as a Christian, and having seen and heard, more discrimination and bigotry by the LGBTIPQ crowd. Christians aren't trying to sexualize children.

Allah is God

And you know this , how?

@@URFTBOUND4LIFE Who is he even talking about?

yea exactly, like the sole reason the bakery isnt ¨comfortable¨ baking a cake is because their gay? Is it not still discriminatory

this

EXACTLY

LOU👏DER👏 I don’t think the so-called devout “Christians” heard you. God loves everyone the same, followers or not. and those people have no right to say who God will take to heaven or hell. God is the only one who decides that, for those who believe. If you don’t that’s alright too🤝

She didn't mention religion. She said she had her own beliefs so don't make this religious

KJV Romans 1:25-32 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. KJV 2 Corinthians 6:13-18 13 Now for a recompence in the same, (I speak as unto my children,) be ye also enlarged. 14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

@@shawnncheriyoung3597 I don't see cake anywhere my dude

Yes GOD love all people...but HE hates sin.

Thanks ....................................

Amen 🙏

Totally agree

I think you are onto something. I don't see that conviction elsewhere. They also pick and choose which sins offend them the most and choose to ignore what they want to ignore. I guess we are all human and can only strive to be better.

Don t agree and Im Christian. We are not meant to judge we leave that to God. But i do agree with what you said on top about her trying to sham them because they denied her services.

@@traption4617 Not judging means not assuming one is doomed to hell or going to heaven. You are confusing "judging" with apathy. Christians are called to condemn and more importantly not to participate in sin.

@@Will-ip8og I just dont believe people should use the word of God to discriminate against others.

literally lmao I don't know what they're on about.

Why did she go on TV to bring this up to everyone... She wanted publicity to get a free cake as if she needs the cake...

I think the commentators are trying to draw attention, to the fact that this lady, is "press"ing the issue...if she is respectful of the baker's choice, why did she go to the press and make it an issue

@@naturegirl372 Great question... but it's obvious... didn't get her cake so now she wants to hurt the baker.. It's a shame... she, the bride, probably wants respect, but doesn't know how to give it..

christians wanna feel oppressed so bad 😂

You know, it's a wedding cake. They usually have like the groom and bride figures, or in this case bride and bride.

It is not who you are sleeping with, it's who you are MARRYING.

I'm just saying she could of just had the lady make the cake and say no topper please it's tacky and prime a cake topper. BAM wedding cake. Or someone could bank on starting a specifically gay bakery.....

@@statesoftheunited7049 yeah, but she didn't know before hand about that baker's beliefs. She probably mentioned it casually thinking it would be alright.

@@ariadnagarrido9731 ohhh

JUNE is "Brides Month" One Woman to One Man

Correction, we are all God's creation, but not ALL HIS CHILDREN. OTHERWISE, NO NEED FOR HIM, TO GIVE HIS SON FOR OUR SINS.

@@priscillafuentes8663 Galatians 3:26 For you are all sons and daughters of God through faith in Christ Jesus. Romans 8:9, 14

Then are are heterosexual couples shacking up together than getting married?

So it says on the Bible not to bake cakes for gay weddings?

@@l.c.7955 Don't nitpick, come on dude

@@l.c.7955 The Bible isn't explicit on every possible theoretical circumstance in existence, as that book would be unfathomably long and otherwise unnecessary. For example, the Bible does not specifically say not to do drugs, but the word of God does say to have self-control of your mind and body at all times, and to only do things that bear good fruit. Regardless, it is only through the Holy Spirit, the Counselor sent from God, that man can walk the straight and narrow path. Before Jesus came, man tried for centuries to follow God's laws written on paper with their own strength and failed terribly again and again, because humans are imperfect and not one can boast about being righteous from their own power and might.

@@l.c.7955 baking the cake for them is kinda like an act of supporting them (since it’s for their wicked wedding)

If I go to hell for loving all people , so be it at least I know I died doing something that I felt content with myself doing

Reading this comment section reinforces why I am not a Christian.

@@Frugal_fitchic Same

I've noticed the same.thought the world had moved on but sadly not.

exactly

I agree, its plain discrimination even if she was "nice" about it

Yes .but God will .be Judge...not me not you..only God .read your Bible. God said .all answer. Is in Holy Bible..seek and you will fine .N.the Door will be open......so let all get on our knees. Repent..for lord is seeing us............why would any one want to go to Hell..for lord pick me up and took me to heaven said to me now look Down. Go Draw. Tell them time is. At the Door...for time is valuable..so much sin ..yes lord Die for our sin ...But what is Evil is Evil....so stop..playing .with your soul.....for when God come Down..that is it ....and he will say I don't know you...now Do you all understand .God..for God is a Holy God .lord. said stop sining.....our worst well happen to you. REPENT..FOR GOD IS LOVE .NO .ONE OR NO THINK..But God can take pain .a way...for give one other ..and service God only ..king of king of Jews....amen......I am Done lord I have toldthem..what youtold themfor me to say....I am be obedient to you lord...thanks you God for love ing me so much..all what you give me is your love so much. Love. But you show me sin ..see and tell.....lord when .I tell them. Some call me a liar. So for give them..so you can for give me.....new Day .every Day is so .Hard....one Day at time

@@cecilianolasco3197 We need to tell them they are wrong, MAYBE they would feel GOD and change their ways. I give scripyure, GOD is the judge and told us to judge righteous judgement and when we see some one sinning, to tell them. It is their choice if they hear GODs words or not, But when a so called CHRISTIAN tells me I am wrong to bring it out, I question their christianity.

God is very clear on this...

@@yasminroberts9841 God Bless.

@@bethlehemeisenhour8352 exactly

@Last Chance Blessed morning. I'm sorry if this comment bothered you. But I just want to say that what you have stated was never been my motive for sharing this message. Not boasting. Thank you.

I’m so confused as to why this has been posted here

I can tell from your post, that you have an understanding of history and human nature. I appreciate that.👍

Exactly. Kinda like that poem about leaving the Nazis target certain people and in the end they wrnt after them and their was no one to help or stand up with them against the aggressor. That's why everyone must watch their ps and qs on stuff cause it set standards. That was why right to religion was put into the consitution and techially, if keep in mind why many fled from England and Europe in general, why the declaration of independence was created too to protect such anr note hoe the founding fathers use the word prudence, knowing what is right or best choice to do in a siduation. Both purdence and diserment is sorley lacking in this day and age, in both the populace and the governments as well as one more trait, that I always forget but was also crucial.😔'

@@razorransom1795 'First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out- because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me.' Pastor Martin Niemöller

@@Brucev7hmmm... The order is a bit different on the actual stone and actually it also has then they came for the catholics, but I didn't speak up cause I'm protesant. That did happen in Poland and elsewhere if read the rightious among the nations book on accounts and Hitler was after the church next, cause there were a few catholics that understood Romans 11 and were not blinded by the gentile pride that came with the gentile vs judaism schism. That is how saint Maximilian Kolbe got maytered. The popes then were walking on egg shells/thin ice and thus had to be careful how to approach them.

Yes....the baker couldve made an excuse like: "im booked have too many orders cant do it". But she confessed.the faith in God. Amen

Actually we should try and correct their ways, we know they are heading to destruction, personally i can't just agree with that. But i also fail to do that so maybe you guys can?

@@lorenslorens1707 Use discernment when witnessing and allow the HolySPIRIT to guide your words. In this case making a righteous stand is being a witness. ❤️

I was with you until you make it about "we" and "yall" we all of the human race baby. You're comments are not that "christian like".

@@kargudin sorry you feel that way. I’m Christ like. And I don’t push my belief on anyone. And I would like for others to share the same view. Christ gives us free will. Free to do what we want. I choose to live with him and for him. I can agree to disagree and still love others. I don’t see this example when it comes to others communities. ❤️ thank you for your opinion I will seriously try to exercise Christ more. 🙌🏾

exactly

Agreed. I was expecting to see people commenting on homophobia yet I only saw tons of religious fanatics defending the baker. What a world.

@@claudiamayordominguez7322 IKR

That was the same argument used decades ago to claim that black and white people shouldn’t get married.

@@tristinhurst6211 maybe something simple is somewhere to start I honestly don’t care what anyone does I want to add that I wasn’t just talking about Christians either

Respect is a two-way street. Discrimination is not showing people respect. Point blank period. There's no respecible way of telling a marginalized group "their money is no good here". Don't agree with same sex marriage? Don't get married to the same sex! You cannot dictate how others live their lives and who they wanna be with. All you're doing is losing money and creating bad PR for your business. It's not worth it.

@@URFTBOUND4LIFE so they should suck it up and do it even tho it goes against what they believe that seems very one sided

@@harpergrace5846 By your logic, we should allow segregation again since some white people believe black people are inferior. It's called RACISM. And this case is HOMOPHOBIC.

Someone needs to work on their reading comprehension

Obey the word of “people that wrote the Bible and call it the word of god” Have better morals.

@@LovelyGamer115 ah yes the toxic atheist that loves to proselytize

Or a non-virgin marrying, or people of other religions marrying, etc. etc. Selective adherence is a hallmark.

In Christianity, non-virgins and divorcés may marry.

@@palmtree2939 In Christianity, women who are non-virgins will be stoned to death too 😁

She didn't mention anything about religion. The baker has her own beliefs and is allowed to have them.

@@sarahblancas6693 I never said it was wrong to believe in whatever it is this issue is that some people use their beliefs or religion as an excuse to do all sorts of bullshit and it makes the religion or people who believe in that look bad and might make them think it’s bad even though it’s just one small minor thing. I don’t think what the baker believes in is bad I could care less, and they weren’t even rude about it when they declined making a cake for that couple. It’s just some people will take it wrong cause they don’t wanna look into it or they hate people who are anti-lgbt. Also I may not be religious myself or believe in anything but I have respect for people who have their own beliefs plus I could care less, as long as it doesn’t effect me in any way I’m fine

@@poopiehead1 100%. That was my comment. I put, you gotta love when religious people use their "religion" to say i don't believe in that to try and justify them being discriminatory towards a gay couple. And then they'll say well im a good Christian. Well guess what. In the Bible, it says that God loves everyone & to love thy neighbor yet they sure don't. Anytime they say its my beliefs is just a cover for them being an asshole

@@hallmarkaddict8455 yeah 2 of my closest friends are Christian and one of them tells me that people like that just do it cause it give them an excuse and it gets annoying and makes actual Christians and Catholics look bad. Also when I'd told her I was pansexual she said something like respect/love the people hate the sin and that it wouldn't change anything.

Like I said the others on this chat, if they’re going to deny gay people a cake because they are sinners then they might as well close their doors. Everyone is a sinner.

This went to court! These young women are $135K richer, for putting the bakery out of business! Shame on them for doing this!

Also LGBTQIA + might run out of letters eventually. So confusing !!!!

@@patseemore5019 can you prove that? I’m not denying it happened but I’ve been searching the names of the couple, the bakery, the location, everything and can’t find any evidence that this went to court anywhere. Thanks

I agree with you…. The bride doesn’t even have an issue with the baker’s decision

Even if the Baker wasn't outright disrespectful it is still discrimination. "Discrimination is regarded as unfair when it imposes burdens or withholds benefits or opportunities from any person on one of the prohibited grounds listed in the Act, namely: race, gender, sex, pregnancy, ethnic or social origin, color, and sexual orientation." Sure, it's a belief in itself if she believes that two people of the same gender shouldn't be together, and still is understanding and doesn't treat them any different of a human, but it becomes discrimination in the grounds of denying someone service because of their sexual orientation. Anyways, I see both sides of the argument, an article with a similar situation states this, "When businesses open their doors to the public, they must open them to everyone on the same terms, regardless of race, color, national origin, disability, or - under many state laws - sex, sexual orientation, or gender identity. Even when a business owner’s religious beliefs may motivate them to discriminate, that doesn’t justify an exemption from our civil rights laws. Providing commercial services, like selling cakes, doesn’t mean a business owner is endorsing anyone’s marriage. It simply means they are following the rules that apply to us all."

It wasn’t religious beliefs, just the right to refuse service.

No because it's not in God's law that they can't marry. They weren't refused service and kicked out they could have purchased anything they wanted but the baker will not make a wedding cake to celebrate sinful behavior. Period.

@@yankeechef3979 They said that about black people too back then. Stfu

What religion says there can’t be Interracial couples? And anyways if somebody told me they couldn’t bake my wedding cake because I’m marrying someone outside my race I’d just take my business elsewhere 😂 I’m not gonna force them to do anything lest they poison me or something 😂😭

There is a law called the civil rights act , and no business would deny someone based on race , but they can deny for serious reasons , such as causing a disturbance in the business . Race and religious reasons are different . If a Christian /Muslim /Jewish baker refuse to bake a cake for a gay couple about to get married is within their rights , because that’s their beliefs . going back to the original case the Christian baker would have happily sold a cake to the gay couple for another specific occasion other than for the couple’s wedding

Typically, when the bride and bride go into the bakery for a tasting, it’s easy for the baker to see that it’s a woman marrying a woman. What kind of ridiculous question are you asking?

@@mikesteele05 She didn't say "they" tried to purchase a cake. She said "she" tried to purchase a cake. Not sure my question was ridiculous.

Perhaps the cake topper?

@@martiemc8398 That would certainly be a giveaway!

Yes, apparently the other baker has no standards.

@@DA-jw4lx what do you mean

I don’t think the customer would tell the baker it’s their 2nd marriage

@@colevandyken2871 you're right but I believe the denied couple didn't tell the baker that it's a same sex marriage ... Oh well, her cake, her rules.

Oh yeah super refreshing discrimination. Feels great blowing through the hair. Fuck you.

Like, I certainly wouldn’t want to bake a cake for a Satanist group

there are always options

@@kimalonzo2145 Not always. If you live in Bible belt communities where this is common, that limits who can/will serve you. It's anticonsumer practices like this is why the civil rights movment was passed.