Woman says she was sexually abused as child by evangelical pastor
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Күн бұрынCindy Clemishire says that Pastor Robert Morris began to sexually abuse her in 1982 when she was 12 and he was 21. Morris went on to found Gateway Church, building it into a megachurch with nine campuses in North Texas. He resigned last month, saying without being specific that he had "inappropriate sexual behavior with a young lady." Morris did not respond to multiple interview requests. NBC News' Antonia Hylton reports.
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#Texas #Church #Pastor
@chetmyers7041 17 күн бұрын
Dear Pastor, a 12 year old girl is a CHILD, not a young lady!
@valeriefromoregon 17 күн бұрын
This was the 80’s it was normalized by society back then . I told everyone not one person believed it. Back then no one wanted to get involved and a lot turned their backs even police . They viewed it as a family issue.
@popcornanytime7414 17 күн бұрын
Oh honey. This isn’t a thing of the past. Read up on Gracie Solomon of Tennessee. See how the church buried her abuse. Her dad goes to church with the governor and the governor’s wife was the judge in the case! Gracie went to the church for help many times and was told it was a family issue.
@nyanuwu4209 17 күн бұрын
@@popcornanytime7414 Her dad also murdered her brother.
@eddieperez7132 17 күн бұрын
To be fair Christian’s literally worship a god character who impregnated an unsuspecting little girl, sooooo…
@dianemwood 17 күн бұрын
The year of exposure! These holier than thou folks often are hiding and covering. I am glad you spoke out.
@louniece1650 17 күн бұрын
A young lady? She was a CHILD! 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
@petefults5984 6 күн бұрын
@@louniece1650 he called her a young lady because she was 16 or 17 when it ended.
@louniece1650 6 күн бұрын
@petefults5984 I hear you. It is the general Adultification of children (which includes teenagers) that the ignorant and unteachables are insisting on normalizing that is of critical concern for the civilized.
@nolanola2024 10 күн бұрын
What is mom and Dad doing letting a grown man stay in their home with a young girl. If a grown man in my house staying over, my teenage girl is sleeping in my room till they gone
@emilywiebel3238 9 күн бұрын
Agree!! Even with my son I do the same. We’ve never had anyone in our home that I worry about but you just never know! My son loves when someone stays bc he gets to sleep with mommy and it’s like a vacation night for him since that’s the only other times he sleeps with me.
@YarnCrafts4lefties 17 күн бұрын
I don't know which is more vile... The abuser or the lawyer blaming a 12 year old. I am revolted on both fronts. The abuser deserves jail time, the lawyer should be disbarred (I realize revolting defenses are not grounds for discarding but should be.) I am sickened all around.
@GameChanger597 16 күн бұрын
What's most vial is the church leaders not reporting his abuse to police and allowing him to continue preaching!!!😡
@discerningtruth6848 15 күн бұрын
I can't think of something more reprehensible than blaming a 12 year old child for the misdeeds of an adult male......by opening up the child's flesh to vile inappropriate behavior. 😢🙏
@miguelpaul1164 17 күн бұрын
Lock him up!!!
@changingpeopleslivesmoon2993 17 күн бұрын
Fr
@garymartin1045 17 күн бұрын
Why are we coming out about this right now? Should have been took care of years ago. Something fishy here
@CB03061 17 күн бұрын
@@garymartin1045because he has money it's a cash grab business she doesn't care if it happened or it didn't because if she did she would have reported it as soon as it happened but it's a MoneyGram let's just be honest and be open-minded about everything in life
@gmoneyboys1 17 күн бұрын
@@garymartin1045nothing fishy. He needs to lo ked up. Stop taking up for this creep
@barbaranordquist7516 17 күн бұрын
@@garymartin1045because it’s painful to come forward. No one believe them
@Cletus_the_Elder 17 күн бұрын
Absolutely perverted, on an individual level and on an institutional level. Churches of this size have a generous retirement package. He's living comfortably.
@chuckxu5910 17 күн бұрын
That’s why every time I have one night stand I always video our interactions including sexually intercourse, to prevent 50 years later she went to the cops and complained about what I done 50 years ago
@pureprairie 17 күн бұрын
He's worth $110 million.
@sandraowen6783 17 күн бұрын
He should have to PAY And Pay everything he has to her! It won't ever make up for what he did to her! But it sure would punish him! And maybe teach the other perverts in the pulpit to STOP! I have a similar problem, at 17, only he has chased me throughout my life Now He is lying on me!!? He is still preaching!! My 45 year old daughter just found out and she wants me to expose him! I've hidden it because he was my pastor and he helped in my wedding. I love his wife and don't want to hurt her or the kids! I've been praying for forgiveness for him. But it has torn me up. We don't tell because WHO is going to believe you over a pastor? My own daddy didn't I didn't tell him until a year before he passed. He was a minister and pastor too. But I know he was a Godly man. This man was good friends with my daddy. Grew up in the same community.
@sandraowen6783 17 күн бұрын
@@pureprairiesounds like a good start for restitution!
@GalacticTradingPost 17 күн бұрын
It didn't happen the way she said it did. Also she liked it and came back for more. Those young ladies are a real mess.
@newtothis3418 17 күн бұрын
Her parents failed her even more by not doing anything and staying at that church. Total disgrace!
@mackmckay588 17 күн бұрын
It's the Christian lifestyle the parents approve
@puffball4484 17 күн бұрын
Many Christians worship the church and their pastors/preachers/priests as false idols.
@johnpaulwebb3440 16 күн бұрын
Bingo, you are 100% right. That poor child had no one looking out for her.
@GameChanger597 16 күн бұрын
Completely agree but unfortunately back then people didn't know how to handle these issues. It's only been within the last 25 years or so that people have been cracking down on these evil crimes on a level that has never been to this degree before. We still have a long ways to go.
@Defundthemasons 15 күн бұрын
@@GameChanger597 Um, The Vatican started human trafficking hundreds of years ago using their missionaries and priests who abused families globally. 25 years or so? OMG, it's been going on all your life and then some ...
@ahill4642 17 күн бұрын
Christmas day. 😣 Disgusting. I’m so sorry for this woman, and the innocent girl she was.
@helenberberich1539 17 күн бұрын
These predators need to be tried, convicted, and jailed. They are the devil’s agent, not God’s.
@PerlaCamargo-qr4yu 17 күн бұрын
Exactly 💯 very well said ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
@user-yo9pv1ni6t 17 күн бұрын
Casxt the 1st stone IF you are w/o sin. Pagan
@drdebocherry 17 күн бұрын
They are ALL PREDATORS! Let me tell you something. Every pretty child ( i just say pretty because the guest is pretty) or just "available" child in a church environment was probably victimized. Everyone i knew was. I wasn't because ny mom was in charge of the Christmas & Easter perfornances and they needed her. Churches, pastors are motivated by a need for attention & ...think about it...why would you go that route. God would want you to be attorney or physicians who would selflessly care for the poor. These guys ard ALL CREEPS.
@AlbertHess-xy7ky 17 күн бұрын
@@user-yo9pv1ni6t What sin? Child predation?
@magaareinbredhillbillies 16 күн бұрын
@@user-yo9pv1ni6t boot licker
@justincaseIspeak 17 күн бұрын
I’m glad you came forward Cindy. I’m sorry this happened to you.
@RxUSE247 17 күн бұрын
Phew Just in time for election season too
@Rachl1284 17 күн бұрын
@@RxUSE247wtf is wrong with you
@jahnjohn8849 16 күн бұрын
She wants money 💰
@yourfatherinlaw5279 17 күн бұрын
He's disgusting. I hope he spends the rest of his life in prison.
@GalacticTradingPost 17 күн бұрын
Prove it happened. All we know is that a woman is crying and blaming someone.
@leahartlee29 17 күн бұрын
@@GalacticTradingPost Spoken like a true predator. I believe her! He admitted it.
@louisejones5773 17 күн бұрын
@@leahartlee29thats exactly what that is
@louisejones5773 17 күн бұрын
@@GalacticTradingPostyour time is running out demon. You best confess instead of sitting online taking up for somebody like this. He even admitted to it and you are still talking about prove it. Reprobate
@crystalbishop6971 16 күн бұрын
The statue of limitation is way past. Although, he should pay restitution to her for the abuse and for her pain/suffering/counseling. There is something not right about waiting 40 years to expose it; probably a financial motive behind it.
@sandrawarner4981 17 күн бұрын
Pastors and politicians should be constantly monitored!!
@usausa3234 17 күн бұрын
Pastors? Men and women of God. You are an extremist.
@ahill4642 17 күн бұрын
Priests, coaches, scout leaders, anyone alone with children.
@Defundthemasons 15 күн бұрын
@@ahill4642 All masons - All predators ... Wolves in Sheep's Clothes Pastors!
@Defundthemasons 15 күн бұрын
By Who? Pastors and politicians are ALL masons/jesuits - cops are ALL masons! Who's Going to "Monitor" ALL the masons who Run The World For King Charles, Their King???
@petefults5984 11 күн бұрын
@@Defundthemasons that's a whole bunch of lies!
@Mareb5818 17 күн бұрын
I am so very sorry this happened to this dear lady. It really is horrible
@RxUSE247 17 күн бұрын
It never happened lol
@KansasMiss-mf4bj 17 күн бұрын
@@RxUSE247. Yes, it did. And Robert admits it.
@donnapierce4801 13 күн бұрын
She was NOT A Child. She knew better
@KansasMiss-mf4bj 13 күн бұрын
@@donnapierce4801 She was 12 years old. That’s a child.
@Mareb5818 12 күн бұрын
@@KansasMiss-mf4bj and even if she was 16 - it’s about intimidation and kind control and guilt - Do Not shame women for admitting such an awful experience- ever . even if you do not believe it - you don’t know their life . even if they are lying .. it’s something else even more tragic/ you don’t know people’s experience etc - so save your judgement. I dint care if you think you know the truth - save it to yourself . bec you may not now the exact truth . it’s a horrible situation and you are not the judge .
@Laura-ns6ys 17 күн бұрын
No one can give me my teenager years back 💔💔💔💔💔
@Rightly_Divided 17 күн бұрын
No one can give anyone their teenage years back
@bobgillis1137 11 күн бұрын
Sorry to hear this. Hope you are ok now.
@Laura-ns6ys 11 күн бұрын
@@bobgillis1137 thank you. I'm fine I was just quoting what Cindy said, broke my heart
@elove2.038 17 күн бұрын
Unfortunately its so many perverts in the house of GOD. They WILL have to answer whether jailed or not. GOD sees you🫵🏾
@mariacervantes6032 16 күн бұрын
@@elove2.038 yes God will take care of it !We can’t hide from him ! He knows it all . We are all going to be judge ! We are sinners ! ! Pray For Gods mercy !! Blessings to all !
@BuddhaBuddhaTTBoy313 16 күн бұрын
So many teachers especially female teachers preying on underage boys
@annem7806 17 күн бұрын
Thank you for speaking up about these fake preachers.
@GalacticTradingPost 16 күн бұрын
you mean fake accusations. she's another paid victim courtesy of the democrats.
@PsyChoAnaLize 17 күн бұрын
Just foul
@Fuxerz 17 күн бұрын
The man is innocent until proven guilty. No proof, no case. She is looking for a buck.
@Toyotacorollaaltis-cn9fd 17 күн бұрын
@@Fuxerz He literally said he did it he proved himself guilty
@Fuxerz 17 күн бұрын
@@Toyotacorollaaltis-cn9fd I heard him generalize his past transgressions. Not specifically her.
@jameswilliams-zr8co 16 күн бұрын
@@Fuxerz never trust a liberal media news station like nbc lol they always have to mention trump, what a joke nbc is
@iaingraham7586 14 күн бұрын
@@Fuxerz Gateway church is no longer offering any moral defence of Robert Morris, after accepting his resignation. (he was planning to retire in 2025 anyway) They have acknowledged Clemishire's abuse, and apologized to her for what happened. There is no longer any doubt about the substantive matters in her claim. They ( Gateway) claimed in a second statement issued in late June or early July of this year, that they did not initially know she (Clemishire) was underage when the abuse took place. They said they didn't have all the factual information at the time of their initial statement. Morris has not been charged with a crime as I write this response. That said, Gateway is not defending Robert Morris from a moral standpoint, or denying the substantive facts of Clemishire's claim now.
@joansmall9019 17 күн бұрын
He only told part of the story. People can't have faith in a man, have faith in God.
@mitsieholtshausen884 11 күн бұрын
For heaven sakes GOD knows the whole story. Must he now go into full detail every time. No the testimony is I was a horrible sinner JESUS died for my sin, when I repent HE is faithful and just to forgive me blot OUT my sin, I am a new creature. END OF STORY.
@joansmall9019 11 күн бұрын
@@mitsieholtshausen884 angry?
@riceexperiment 13 күн бұрын
Accountability for those individuals that covered up his behavior.
@annietiques1803 17 күн бұрын
Why am I not the least bit surprised? 🤬🤬🤬
@bv1197 17 күн бұрын
How is he not been arrested????
@NancyAnderson-nt8bm 17 күн бұрын
Sadly, statute of limitations is passed
@lxspa529 16 күн бұрын
It happened 20+ years ago. That’s why victims need to speak up sooner so these predators can get the prison time and shame they deserve. Most victims eventually tell anyway, but usually after the statute up.
@crystalbishop6971 16 күн бұрын
@@lxspa529 exactly! Sad but true!
@Sarah-river 15 күн бұрын
@@lxspa529Most victims haven't processed it enough to speak out until they're in their 40s. The statute of limitations needs to be removed
@iDelta77 12 күн бұрын
The problem is, he made her the "guilty" one for 30 plus years
@mitsieholtshausen884 6 күн бұрын
Your proof please cause I can categorically say, you are talking nonsense.
@PILLOWHEX 17 күн бұрын
Tax exempt status should go bye bye for Gateway.
@TheJwlasichuk 17 күн бұрын
Any church
@rs72098 17 күн бұрын
Atheist detected. I dare you to go after every Church for taxes, and watch the Democrats lose every election. As if taxing churches is going to somehow cause them all to fail. How about we remove tax dollars from planned parenthood?
@majorseventh2699 17 күн бұрын
The poor dear.. I understand, as a very young lad, i was abused by a gal and I never said anything... Seems it would be embarrassing to bring it up 40+ years later and, If she was my daughter, I'd be loading.
@deninehester7692 17 күн бұрын
Praying for you, this should not happen to anyone, especially children….
@onetwothreefourfivesix789 17 күн бұрын
i’m so sorry, sir, i hope you’ve healed since then. you should have never had to go through such a horrible thing.
@ahill4642 17 күн бұрын
I appreciate your comment. And the “loading” part made me smile. Peace to you. ❤️
@wownewstome6123 13 күн бұрын
No one should promote taking the law into their own hands. In the end, innocent people could be accidentally targeted.
@wownewstome6123 13 күн бұрын
Look at the Innocence Project. They've helped free innocent people who have been serving decades long prison sentences. If the legal system can get it wrong, so can you.
@stephaniebrooks8044 17 күн бұрын
Who's shocked???? Not me!
@GameChanger597 16 күн бұрын
Not totally surprised. Something about his arrogance and criticism of others downfalls made me feel a little unsure of him. Now it all makes sense.
@sunshinerobinson1123 15 күн бұрын
Not me 🤬😢
@drcarriemills8772 13 күн бұрын
How do you keep going around someone abusing you ?? I was touched inappropriately once when i was 13 and never was around that person again and keep boundaries from men
@jenniewebb374 13 күн бұрын
she also did the same with two other men who were guests in her childhood home.
@onetwothreefourfivesix789 12 күн бұрын
I’m sorry you were touched as a child and I hope you’ve recovered since then. but what happens is that childten can be threatened or manipulated.
@bobgillis1137 11 күн бұрын
I am glad you had that strength. Not every kid has that self-confidence and/or support network. Children are prone to manipulation, even more than adults are. They just don't have the history to challenge authority, so they are vulnerable. Sounds like you landed on your feet.
@AlbertHess-xy7ky 11 күн бұрын
He was a man of God, he had accepted Jesus Christ as his personal savior. He could do no wrong.
@Speakupok 9 күн бұрын
@@jenniewebb374 It’s not her fault.
@ftcmoore1 13 күн бұрын
Why now? Why not 40 years ago or 30 years ago. Hmmmm!!!
@jenniewebb374 13 күн бұрын
and she had a similar experience with two other adult men who were guests in the home.
@AlbertHess-xy7ky 11 күн бұрын
It was traumatic. Think PTSD.
@superperformance 16 күн бұрын
This kind of incidents no longer has any impact on me. I have totally lost faith in religion, church, and humanity.
@garylefevers 17 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing such a painful traumatic evil thing that happened. You are a warrior for good speaking on behalf of victims/survivors. Proof that God and you turned horrific thing into a positive.
@VelveteenRabbit77 13 күн бұрын
She should have contacted law enforcement first. Im not being critical to be clear but i dont understand contacting a mollestor for restitution.
@jeepsishumate2021 11 күн бұрын
right on!
@vstefe1280 10 күн бұрын
2 million.
@mitsieholtshausen884 6 күн бұрын
Her father did not want to contact the authorities because Cindy had a reputation. He should have gotten her help for her promiscuity.
@mitsieholtshausen884 5 күн бұрын
@@VelveteenRabbit77 because she is the monster.
@Racingguy98 17 күн бұрын
Horrible event that has turned into a money grab.
@petefults5984 14 күн бұрын
@@Racingguy98 right..
@vstefe1280 10 күн бұрын
@@katherinerourke8927it was 2 million. Big difference.
@petefults5984 6 күн бұрын
@@katherinerourke8927 that has not been debunked. It's coming to light now.
@petefults5984 5 күн бұрын
@@katherinerourke8927 no, I am not.
@petefults5984 5 күн бұрын
@@katherinerourke8927 that that hasn't been debunked? It hasn't surfaced yet. What I've read in different places is posting towards exactly that.
@user-dp4pd9lv9x 11 күн бұрын
I thought you were supposed to be a little girl. Now you are saying you were a teenager.
@mitsieholtshausen884 11 күн бұрын
Well technically it was +-3 weeks before her 13th birthday😮 But don't stress. Cindy makes it up as she goes.😅😅
@AlbertHess-xy7ky 11 күн бұрын
it happened before she was a teenager, and well after.
@onetwothreefourfivesix789 8 күн бұрын
@@mitsieholtshausen884really? then tell me, why did he admit to doing it with her then?😊
@mitsieholtshausen884 8 күн бұрын
@@AlbertHess-xy7kyadolescent age 10 - 19
@AlbertHess-xy7ky 8 күн бұрын
@@mitsieholtshausen884 Girl age 0 - 19
@joyjeffcoat8711 17 күн бұрын
What's strange he was telling this story on his own over and over. Wondering if he was reliving it. Him saying it was a young lady is sickening
@grannynair7821 14 күн бұрын
I think you will find, Robert pulled a fake story to his wife all their married life - i bet she didnt know it was a 12yr old girl, i bet she didnt go to the parents home when they were supposed to have forgiven him. People like Robert Morris know how to manipulate and play with words. Im in Australia, and in the early 2000’s we connected to satellite Christian. Tv and i remeber hearing Robert Morris give a testimony of redemption them. He had to keep that story about the young lady going forever as he lied to his wife and most people in the churches. I also heard one message of recent years where his wife had said to him “are you sure you are telling me everything”? He told her he was. But he wasnt. I wonder if we were a fly on the wall in that household. It is very sad. You tell a lie once and it is easy to confess and repent, but tell a lie over and over and over for years and years and years and the lie becomes a stronghold too big to break the chains. A persons conscience becomes seared and they believe what they have been saying is the truth when it clearly is not.
@mitsieholtshausen884 11 күн бұрын
Reading all the reports and listening to Cindy herself, I think the young lady was over stimulated. Now, when she wants money and attention, all 3 men were abusers .😢 The question is WHY HER, her sister is one room down from her, WHY did Cindy snug into the mens rooms. WHY did she only come out when her friend, who she bragged to, forced her to come forward. WHY did her dad want to keep it out of the public. As for Debbie a sweeter kinder woman you have never met, if she said Cindy was very flirtatious, I believe her.
@mitsieholtshausen884 9 күн бұрын
Don't you be sick!! He was using his failure and shame to help others find freedom in CHRIST.
@petefults5984 5 күн бұрын
@@katherinerourke8927 she didn't call her when she was 12!!!
@petefults5984 5 күн бұрын
@@katherinerourke8927 Cindy turned 13 2vweeks later. Why did she sneak into his room for over 4 years if he was abusing her? Why did she do this with other men when they spent the night in her home? That might be why her parents told people to not make it public. He called her a young lady after the fact, when she was 17. I'm not defending him, I'm defending the truth. So many want to exaggerate and twist it..
@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 17 күн бұрын
I am not surprised. As a DC who practiced for 30 years, I was hit on by more married church-going married women than you can imagine.
@cjpark1461 17 күн бұрын
Interesting...because many women say the same about the married men. Then the married women too?? Hmm interesting.
@vannavanity1195 16 күн бұрын
@@katherinerourke8927Doctor of Chiropractic?
@jeepsishumate2021 11 күн бұрын
@@cjpark1461 yep.... u havent heard of how women speak in the bathrooms?
@jeepsishumate2021 11 күн бұрын
@@katherinerourke8927 men dont like tp hurt or embarrass women and some women are snakes
@cjpark1461 11 күн бұрын
@@jeepsishumate2021 What I have noticed is jealousy envy and over protectiveness of women for their husbands and boyfriends. No one is perfect whether men or women. We are all flawed and fallen short. I can't blame women too much for being overprotective because of all the cheating going on with Ashley Madison stuff and almost all being men that signed up. It is annoying to me however because their husbands and boyfriends are so unattractive overweight and I couldn't care less about them and also against my core beliefs to interfere in other people's relationships...Also, I found out married men are the most single men. They are far more single than actual single men and it's so GROSS and insulting!
@tiredbanti7412 17 күн бұрын
Lock Him up.
@leahartlee29 17 күн бұрын
AND throw away the key!!
@BuddhaBuddhaTTBoy313 16 күн бұрын
No. Statutes of limitations have already past.
@jerrylyons9279 17 күн бұрын
start a church, call yourself a pastor (not a reverant) beg for money to be saved. there are so many irreverant of these false prophets goughing themselves with money. they're hurting jesus christ.
@petefults5984 14 күн бұрын
@@jerrylyons9279 gossip much?
@John-se7lb 9 күн бұрын
That's why I find it easier to trust in ministers who have no hands and no feet.
@PoeLemic 8 күн бұрын
@@John-se7lb Yep, that's why I pray and follow the Religious Teachings of my two Pet Dogs. They are more religious than most of these Evangelicals.
@MrBobochow 17 күн бұрын
Four years, this Pastor is more than sick
@juliannebrancadora3476 16 күн бұрын
And how on earth did he, after molesting a child for years, become the pastor of the largest congregation in the US, gaining personal wealth of 10s of millions of dollars?....While she struggled with shame and emotional distress for decades. As Christians, we should be angry about this!!!
@GameChanger597 16 күн бұрын
@@juliannebrancadora3476 Because those around him were complicit and failed to do the right thing as adults and report him. The fact that he was never held responsible tells me he is not a true follower and neither were those in charge of him. Believing and following are two different things. Just as God says be a doer of the word, not just a hearer. Seems to me they are all heroes and not doers
@mitsieholtshausen884 11 күн бұрын
Yes and to think this child told him if he stopped performing, she would tell. And then she brags to her best friend of the affair, and the friend forced her to tell. And then her dad doesn't want to go public because Cindy has a reputation. And then 35 years later 3 men sexualy assaulted her in her own home, when she snuged into their room. It is horrible.
@GaryRayBetz 17 күн бұрын
"Visionaries found religions. Criminals manage them." - John Milton
@TedRobinson-cc9od 16 күн бұрын
Like the Mormons
@deninehester7692 17 күн бұрын
Praying for you Cindy, love and strength to you ,,,we all support you and thank you for coming forward….admire your courage and just know you and your family are in my thoughts and prayers…I am sure you have stopped this from happening to other young girls…Stay strong
@onetwothreefourfivesix789 17 күн бұрын
thank you for being kind to this woman❤❤❤
@EllEss331 13 күн бұрын
"Praying for you"...See, this confuses me. Why would you pray to the same God who could have prevented this from happening to begin with, but did nothing? Any god that has the power to protect, heal, or save a victim, but doesn't isn't worth being worshipped. If you saw someone being molested and could stop it, you'd do everything in your power to stop it. That makes you more moral than your God. It doesn't make a lick of sense. I take that back. It does make sense when you realize Gods are not real.
@Hephzibah2024 17 күн бұрын
It's absolutely tragic for ALL. I am saddened by the fact that not one person has ever asked what happened to this 19 year old young man that led him into this deviant behavior? He must also have been experiencing some deep emotional pain.. 19 is a baby himself as any mother would most likely agree.. This was a moral failure, the man admitted that openly. God is a great healer and restorer.. I question the timing of this..35 years later..
@shelleybuerer4502 17 күн бұрын
Cindy has been seeking justice for years. The leadership has been gaslighting her. I’m not sure who you’re referring to that’s 19. RM was in his twenties, married and had a child. He’s a paraphilia. You can read the original story from Cindy on TheWartburgwatch and CBC. There’re photos of original emails between RM, staff at Gateway. RM has always told his version of the story but he referred to Cindy as a young lady when in fact she was 12 years old. She was seduced by a criminal. He’s a multi millionaire and can afford therapy for his trauma. If he truly cared for humans he would have tried to help Cindy with her therapy costs.
@c.eb.1216 17 күн бұрын
😂😆 ROFL
@TrustJesus333 17 күн бұрын
Careful, justifying evil is NOT of The Kingdom of God. Seek discernment.
@alwaysgo4health 16 күн бұрын
He was 20, married and had a son. Yes, he had issues, and he used a 12 year old innocent girl to satisfy his sick and twisted appetite. He should have continued his ministry in prison.
@Stangy04 16 күн бұрын
He was in his 20s!
@melosova-suav8930 17 күн бұрын
I’m shocked that a Charlatan would do such a thing.
@ritagreene8376 17 күн бұрын
I'm not, I've seen lots of stuff like this.
@jerrylyons9279 17 күн бұрын
they're phony christians, preaching for money for themselves.
@JohnWickjr 17 күн бұрын
?? What makes him a charlatan? If he did that act he should be punished but exactly where is the charlatan part? You sound like an atheists, who are the ACTUAL charlatans. No intelligent person believes in the religion of evolution.
@TheTuellfamily 17 күн бұрын
@@ritagreene8376I think that comment was meant to be sarcastic.
@mitsieholtshausen884 14 күн бұрын
@@melosova-suav8930 Cindy 🤣🙈
@teeosp2577 17 күн бұрын
SICK
@msammr33 17 күн бұрын
Careful who you follow in life. If there was 1 there are more.
@PavlovsDog-kl8mo 17 күн бұрын
3 million not surprised, but let's deflect blame it on the LGBTQ+.
@Rightly_Divided 17 күн бұрын
Well that is the thing. It happens there too. It is just not reported because protected class. The parades are enough to send people to jail if they weren't, and you know it. It just goes to show that the Bible is right about humans being evil. Doesn't matter what you believe.
@ahill4642 17 күн бұрын
huh? No.
@Rightly_Divided 17 күн бұрын
@@ahill4642 haha they struck my comment for telling them the truth haha
@ChangingTides777 14 күн бұрын
Some Christians are obsessed with condemning homosexuals. It's terrible.
@user-fs9yv4hl5f 17 күн бұрын
This unfortunately is common in many religious settings. These so called religious leaders are human. Humans have a difficult time handling authority and power. It’s been this way since humans have been on earth.
@janetpartyka5968 17 күн бұрын
So glad you came forward Cindy. He took your childhood and that is UNACCEPTABLE!! What you have had to carry for years is horrible. Seek justice!!
@mitsieholtshausen884 15 күн бұрын
He did not took what was not freely offered by her own admission.
@janicefearer8061 13 күн бұрын
Parents allowed this.
@valeriek7862 15 күн бұрын
This is so heartbreaking and sickening. Her innocence was stollen and replaced with a life of keeping a sick man’s secret out of fear.
@no1mportant 17 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, this is all too common and all too frequent. The Dusty Smith show covers like 4-5 modern day cases a week
@Woke365 17 күн бұрын
Oooooooh gosh. Somebody please think of the children.
@Retrorick642 17 күн бұрын
I'm going to start calling it the pdo church since there's been found more of that activity going on there.
@pedroballadares5253 17 күн бұрын
What a name for a “church”!😮
@magrebtraveler 17 күн бұрын
Gateway Church Dallas Texas
@verawhite256 12 күн бұрын
She don't need to watch him.That's her problem.She knew when she was sixteen twelve thirteen Fifteen sixteen , she was enjoying every minute with that man I was 14 years old and one of my cousins tried to miss for me.I knew better I knew better.I told him i'm gonna tell my daddy Hayden. 's heat and bottle with me She knew better.I guarantee you.She did back in the day and I'm older than her.I'm 64 years old and I knew then at the age of 14 years old.Why she didn't go tell her that then.She tried to get money gang money as all.She wanted some money to go set her but down.She wanted to come out at six and forty years later out on by the game violating
@phoebeb.332 17 күн бұрын
Appetite 🤢
@roselee4445 17 күн бұрын
Those 4 are running from other youth
@cosandraodame7623 17 күн бұрын
I am so sorry Cindy you had to carry this burden alone by someone you trusted.
@MeltedPearls 17 күн бұрын
I am a former atheist; now I have belief in God, but am still atheist to the RELIGIONS of this world and this is why.
@GameChanger597 16 күн бұрын
This is why God says do not put your trust in man but put your trust in the Lord. Loosely translated, people may fail you but the Lord will never fail you.
@MeltedPearls 16 күн бұрын
@@GameChanger597 That is the TRUTH. God can do what no person can, and nor should we expect human beings to do what only the Divine can. Love to you and to all people.
@annelibashore4807 13 күн бұрын
@@MeltedPearlsjust what exactly can this figment of your imagination do that no mortal man can, I only want to know?
@MeltedPearls 13 күн бұрын
@@annelibashore4807 Toss that question into the universe, not at a fellow mere mortal. If God exists, He or She is more than able to show you.
@lavelleklobes6561 17 күн бұрын
U go girl , a similar thing happened to me at 12 !!
@onetwothreefourfivesix789 17 күн бұрын
i’m so sorry that happened to you and i can only hope that you’re doing okay now.
@cinhenry 15 күн бұрын
Then you should speak up right now!
@deborahbaker4770 17 күн бұрын
I can’t believe how many people believe in people like him they believe so much in what they say that they don’t realize what they are really asking them to do unfortunately ☹️
@lizkingbradley 4 күн бұрын
As a survivor of molestation at the age of four, that was repeated for years, I can tell you that healing is possible and forgiveness is key to it. Forgiveness doesn’t mean you say it’s okay. It means you let go of the anger and resentment trusting God to heal you and deal with him.
@k.w.4068 16 күн бұрын
1:21 she reached out for RESTITUTION, is this about money or standing against your abuser? There’s real people out there that’s standing for something they refuse to fall for, what is this Lady standing for?
@jeepsishumate2021 11 күн бұрын
amen!
@vstefe1280 10 күн бұрын
2 million.
@angelabenoit2034 17 күн бұрын
Omg you don’t know who to trust, things like this been happening for years and years, so sad and disgusting.
@TrustJesus333 17 күн бұрын
Do not trust. Trust God.
@angelabenoit2034 16 күн бұрын
@@TrustJesus333 You can trust god, human is the problem, god is love, because of god your living, thank god every day that you are alive, no matter what you choose in live that’s on you, god loves you🙏🏼🩷
@TrustJesus333 16 күн бұрын
@@angelabenoit2034 Yes, in responding to the original comment I said… Do not trust (mankind). Trust God.
@KeithGeorge-vt4xp 12 күн бұрын
Was the alleged abuse fifty years ago ?
@mitsieholtshausen884 6 күн бұрын
35
@petefults5984 6 күн бұрын
@@KeithGeorge-vt4xp 42
@throwaway8179 13 күн бұрын
Sounds like ALL the elders of Grooming Gateway Church should be investigated.
@critterscute3642 10 күн бұрын
I agree.
@petefults5984 6 күн бұрын
@@throwaway8179 why are so many of you ignoring the facts and only want someone to suffer? I don't get it..
@tonyallen4265 17 күн бұрын
Because he hid this horrible truth for 42 years, he is now worth $117,000,000. Take it Cindy!
@JesusisLOVEJohn- 17 күн бұрын
I'm sick and tired of these "so-called" emphasis on so- called pastors doing things like this. Clearly not a true follower of Christ. 2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
@nyanuwu4209 17 күн бұрын
Clearly he is.
@TrustJesus333 17 күн бұрын
@@nyanuwu4209Clearly he is a child of satan, as Jesus clearly teaches us to discern.
@jeepsishumate2021 11 күн бұрын
amen
@Meant2BVegans 12 күн бұрын
Did church think he was “cured/saved” from only his previous inappropriate adult relationships - or did they know about some incidents with minors, & accept that too?
@Stacy_KP 17 күн бұрын
Thank You Cindy
@mitsieholtshausen884 5 күн бұрын
@Stacy_KP for what. Teaching adolescents that it's OK to mess with married men. And that you just need to cry SA, and your behavior is ok. No matter who's lives, you destroy in the process.
@hobbit321a 17 күн бұрын
What i want to know is who hasn't been abused by a church member
@timpierce1967 17 күн бұрын
Or a teacher
@jennybolton785 17 күн бұрын
Or a family member
@eeayquetting5963 17 күн бұрын
People who don't go to church and don't take their children to church
@marleeamato4944 17 күн бұрын
I am so blessed that I never was. I went to so many church camps and trips, too. Never was even flirted with
@runits 17 күн бұрын
well duh thats half the point they bring children to church. blame the parents
@PeterWilliamson-nn9et 17 күн бұрын
Church’s have various forms of confession where you share your inner most thoughts, so such professed leaders of a church should bear closer scrutiny
@AlbertHess-xy7ky 17 күн бұрын
DUH
@fitrunner1317 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, he clicked baited her by telling her “to come in my room” 🤦♀️ he was sly like a snake. Lured her in. sadly she trusted him. and the victim shaming is pure evil!!
@mitsieholtshausen884 6 күн бұрын
Yea and then she lost her voice when he touched her. And her legs didn't work and she couldn't leave the room. And the next day she snug back in, just to make sure it will happen again. And then she did it with another two guys in her parents house. But yea, married men are easy, and she was just a little 13 year old dumb adolescent who was born brainless. It's a tragedy 😢
@Hephzibah2024 17 күн бұрын
This man is seeking the spotlight for himself.
@crystalbishop6971 16 күн бұрын
She could be seeking the spotlight and money too!
@ssl5719 11 күн бұрын
That happened before he became a pastor. Why she blaming the church.
@AlbertHess-xy7ky 11 күн бұрын
The church protected him.
@petefults5984 6 күн бұрын
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky the church didn't know..
@mitsieholtshausen884 5 күн бұрын
@AlbertHess-xy7ky Gateway wasn't even a church yet. No, Cindy's daddy protected him because his daughter had a reputation.
@AlbertHess-xy7ky 5 күн бұрын
@@petefults5984 The Church is protecting him, child molester.
@nicknovello5589 17 күн бұрын
The church needs to be stuttered. It is not a house of God, but a business.
@christinabowling9212 17 күн бұрын
You mean shuttered. And I definitely agree 👍!
@GameChanger597 16 күн бұрын
Luckily not all churches are like this but I tend to feel that the mega churches are often this way
@petefults5984 14 күн бұрын
@@nicknovello5589 why do so many of you want to punish an innocent church? That's not what God wants!
@joeblogs-vx4ep 12 күн бұрын
How do we know if she is lieing or telling the truth ? Is that pastor wearing a wig ?
@smcs 10 күн бұрын
"I developed an appetite before I was saved." My pastor-abuser said with pride that he used to be a jerk before he got saved. Pfft, these liars. He's still a jerk.
@deborahmorton547 17 күн бұрын
Gee. We used to watch him a lot. We are shocked. We were all fooled by his eloquence.
@TrustJesus333 17 күн бұрын
Exactly his MO. That is what wolves in sheep’s clothing do, deceive-expertly.
@GodBlessYou112 14 күн бұрын
I guess that's why she didn't go to The Police because that doesn't pay $$$
@DShK-38 17 күн бұрын
Bruh she looks like she's 20 years older than him, I was expecting it to be the other way around💀
@Mrhappy555 13 күн бұрын
The facts are coming out now. She was approaching other men at the same time she was interested in Robert Morris. Give this some time to understand what was going on
@jenniewebb374 13 күн бұрын
correct!!!
@onetwothreefourfivesix789 12 күн бұрын
who cares? SHE was a CHILD, ROBERT was the ADULT. He should have known better.
@alisamariespistol6331 16 күн бұрын
It must not have bothered her very much. 😐
@AlbertHess-xy7ky 15 күн бұрын
She was 12.
@ChangingTides777 14 күн бұрын
That's such a stupid comment.
@alisamariespistol6331 14 күн бұрын
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky took her 40 years to get mad 😐
@petefults5984 14 күн бұрын
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky right. The whole time she was 12!
@AlbertHess-xy7ky 14 күн бұрын
@@petefults5984 She was twelve for a whole year. You're defending a child predator. You are a real hole.
@cowgirlup1081 17 күн бұрын
Cindy you are not alone
@bizboyz957 17 күн бұрын
Why wait so long? It happened in 1982.
@TrustJesus333 17 күн бұрын
She did not…she told many, over and over and over. Seek her whole story if you want to know the truth.
@williamoxendine6121 12 күн бұрын
If he had not got rich it would still a secret
@jenniewebb374 12 күн бұрын
true!!
@onetwothreefourfivesix789 12 күн бұрын
still sa’d a child
@AlbertHess-xy7ky 11 күн бұрын
The church knew. Now the world knows.
@petefults5984 6 күн бұрын
@@AlbertHess-xy7ky stop lying!! the church it happened in back in 1987 didn't know and the current church didn't know!!
@GodBlessYou112 16 күн бұрын
To whom the shoe fits Matthew 7:1-5 Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
@flame-sky7148 17 күн бұрын
Robert Morris, you should have been a cardinal not a pastor.
@michelebreen1705 16 күн бұрын
What a brave lady
@dmk7700 17 күн бұрын
praise the lord and send me money
@xDEADLOCKEDx2468 17 күн бұрын
Funny it's always the religious types but their own audience will still look the other because something something "reborn in god's image" and "found god" no matter how sinful they actually are.
@zilchjustcoffee1643 17 күн бұрын
Funny how it’s also their whole organization that will look the other way way and continue to enable them to go on abusing
@Sanergiu1967 16 күн бұрын
When will parents learn never to trust those who use God as a gateway to their loved ones!??
@Thunder_Dome45 17 күн бұрын
Yeah right. Broke aren't you. Need that cash.
@Smiley-fv8zi 16 күн бұрын
This is a brave woman. The pastor is sick and needs to kept far away from children.
@robbiecoomer4790 13 күн бұрын
Ok ,money will fix it . Come on man .
@jenniewebb374 13 күн бұрын
$2 million adjust for inflation from 2005 until now
@nadine9697 13 күн бұрын
he is a wolf --lock him up - find all of his victims-and let them sue his estate
@merrym7174 17 күн бұрын
This is REALLY SAD
@Kahneisha 17 күн бұрын
Why didn't say anything then ? I would have told everyone
@onetwothreefourfivesix789 17 күн бұрын
manipulation, look it up, the pastor could have threatened her with consequences should she tell someone.
@deirdremorris9234 17 күн бұрын
For many reasons, people dont tell right away. Fear. Shame. Being threatened. Not wanting to rock the boat.
@TrustJesus333 17 күн бұрын
She did! Over and over and over…seek her whole story, the truth.
@onetwothreefourfivesix789 16 күн бұрын
@@TrustJesus333 On rereading your comment, I realized you were defending Cindy and not attacking her. I am very sorry for what I said, please forgive me. I am ashamed.
@TrustJesus333 16 күн бұрын
@@onetwothreefourfivesix789 Absolutely, completely forgiven. No shame needed.💕
@deannarounds134 17 күн бұрын
Ppl haven’t a CLUE how many men hide their predatory behavior behind religion. It’s just stunning how we tolerate this brutal abuse. He is NOT a man of God. He needs to be in prison! Our Judicial system is so very very ill.
@cjpark1461 17 күн бұрын
Exactly.
@Defundthemasons 15 күн бұрын
Kangaroo courtrooms run by masons = NO Justice For ALL (Unless YOu're a mason!)
@mitsieholtshausen884 6 күн бұрын
Yea go ahead oh self-righteous one.
@katerinagiannioudi401 11 күн бұрын
Why do some people even follow these self acclaimed pastors, who talk rubbish? Cant they stand on their own feet?
@TherealHazlett 16 күн бұрын
No disrespect to the survivor; but this is hardly shocking, most of these abusers are priests or preachers. Not the people that the right wing accuses of being predators.
@GodBlessYou112 14 күн бұрын
in 2007 she asked Robert Morris for $50,000 is that the going rate for 12 year olds to take off their clothes? just asking
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