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Institute of Human Anatomy

Institute of Human Anatomy

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Women Have Weird Elbows...
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In this video, Justin from the Institute of Human Anatomy discusses the strange and fascinating differences elbows can exhibit.
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Video Timeline
00:00 - 00:42 Intro
00:43 - 03:03 Secondary Sex Characteristics
03:04 - 04:43 The Carrying Angle
04:44 - 06:34 Is It All In the Hips?
06:35 - 07:55 Bone Grows Based on Posture?
07:56 - 09:29 The Joys of Being Short
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10:24 - 12:02 Kinesiology and Geometry Fundamentals
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@theanatomylab
@theanatomylab 2 жыл бұрын
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@gstgalpha2256
@gstgalpha2256 2 жыл бұрын
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@KeloMellow11
@KeloMellow11 2 жыл бұрын
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@chrisleach4245
@chrisleach4245 2 жыл бұрын
Can you guys do a video about gynecomastia?
@nirgunawish
@nirgunawish 2 жыл бұрын
more dimorphism vids pls
@winkydstanaccount5003
@winkydstanaccount5003 2 жыл бұрын
lol @ you teaching sex characteristics so carefully in 2021
@feynstein1004
@feynstein1004 2 жыл бұрын
I'm more interested in learning how curly eyelashes became a supposedly feminine characteristic when it seems to be much more prevalent in men. 👁👁
@spiritmatter1553
@spiritmatter1553 2 жыл бұрын
Good question. I’m female with thin short straight lashes. The longest, thickest lashes I’ve ever seen have belonged to men.
@Adriana.Gabriela
@Adriana.Gabriela 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiritmatter1553 same. Maybe it's the same mechanism that made men stop wearing heels and making them a "female" thing (minus the actualy biological part-
@litchtheshinigami8936
@litchtheshinigami8936 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiritmatter1553 exactly.. now i have pretty big lashes myself because of genetics.. but i must agree the longest lashes i've ever seen were on a Turkish boy i used to go to school with.. he had these very thick long lashes. so it defenitely puzzles me why when someone tells me oh you defenitely look female in the face it's always about the lashes (i'm nonbinary) like there are many men with long lashes so it really means nothing
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 2 жыл бұрын
My first guess is that dark eyelashes make the eyes appear bigger and that's a female characteristic / characteristic of youth.
@fulloffreedomwr8948
@fulloffreedomwr8948 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not always good to have unique eyes for some reason when I was in highschool girls said that my eyes made them want to cry only they didn’t know why. To this day I still don’t know the reason. My eyes are a mix between blue and green people always tell me it’s hazel so I just go by that term
@johannaappleforest7482
@johannaappleforest7482 2 жыл бұрын
Normal guy: nice hips babe Doctor: Wow, your carrying angle is absolutely marvelous, ma'am.
@OfficialMyxomatosis
@OfficialMyxomatosis 2 жыл бұрын
Finally! A comment that does me justice!
@Spit823
@Spit823 2 жыл бұрын
I love women with a nice big set of carrying angles
@OfficialMyxomatosis
@OfficialMyxomatosis Жыл бұрын
@@Spit823 I was getting OMT by my Ehlers-Danlos doc on my head and neck last week, and towards the end, he pulled on my ears to help release the pressure on my eustachian tubes from my TMJ and Bruxism. After I asked him if he had ever watched Archer, he said he loved the show. I flopped my arms down over the table and said, "Conway, THAT WAS AMAZING!" My doc proceeded to choke on his spit. Then thanked me for the best response.
@OfficialMyxomatosis
@OfficialMyxomatosis Жыл бұрын
@@dieZauberfloete Hahaha!! If we were both single!
@i10i60
@i10i60 Жыл бұрын
@@dieZauberfloete Same.
@Jamie548
@Jamie548 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this helps me with weightlifting. I used to get comments on how I was carrying my dumbbells wrong, but I just wasn't physically able to hold the dumbbells closer to my body in a supinated position because I am a woman. MIND IS BLOWN. btw, love how there are bodybags with bodies laying there casually when he's explaining all this.
@LameTurmeric
@LameTurmeric Жыл бұрын
SAME! I always feel self conscious when doing bicep curls because, to me, I look like I’m holding the weights stupidly and can’t do a bicep curl properly lol. This video made me feel a lot better haha. Also, I had the exact same thought when I saw the bodies laying about 😂
@54356776
@54356776 Жыл бұрын
I never even noticed the background to be honest. Now I can't stop looking at it.
@azaliahangulo
@azaliahangulo Жыл бұрын
I tried working out with my ex once and when we got to doing push-ups he noticed my elbows extended outwards when I pushed myself up and he said it does that because I don’t have enough muscles in my arms to keep it straight 💀💀💀
@colours8846
@colours8846 Жыл бұрын
@@azaliahangulo well we can understand why he's an ex.
@zairac2564
@zairac2564 Жыл бұрын
Now I'm wondering if the high school pull-up bar should have had something like a 20-degree angle to make it fair. I guess it should have a variable angle depending on the height/carrying-angle of the user actually.
@RMBMS
@RMBMS 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed this in womens weightlifting, in weightlifting you externally rotate your elbows to help ensure lockout during the lifts, and some woman I’ve seen had some almost scarily bent elbows
@ariannasilva4462
@ariannasilva4462 Жыл бұрын
I have the issue of doing push ups with these arms. My elbows seem to lock easily in the above position with push ups. So I have to push so hard to unlock my elbows I fall.
@sharkyhennessey6551
@sharkyhennessey6551 2 жыл бұрын
As a woman, kinda disappointed that I don’t have weird elbows.
@theanatomylab
@theanatomylab 2 жыл бұрын
😂 It's ok, we can all find other weird things about ourselves!
@jeromeriedl
@jeromeriedl 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t speak for other men, but for me it doesn’t matter at all.
@OfficialMyxomatosis
@OfficialMyxomatosis 2 жыл бұрын
It's totally ok! With my Ehlers-Danlos, mine actually go in both directions. With sound, and when I do not want.
@miekekuppen9275
@miekekuppen9275 2 жыл бұрын
I have straight elbows too, and wide hips. My hips don´t get in the way when walking, by the way. As far as I can tell
@JoseCruz-nd8fi
@JoseCruz-nd8fi 2 жыл бұрын
Compensate by being more weird
@darkwinter8
@darkwinter8 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a woman, and I have elbows like this. I'm like a male calico cat.
@2ndamendmentlordgunzz126
@2ndamendmentlordgunzz126 2 жыл бұрын
Very rare sir lol
@poisoncobra7
@poisoncobra7 2 жыл бұрын
Are you short?
@DylRicho
@DylRicho 2 жыл бұрын
Calicos are awesome, so you are too. ;)
@jeroheroarctic5333
@jeroheroarctic5333 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. I'm a man who also haves that
@OfficialMyxomatosis
@OfficialMyxomatosis 2 жыл бұрын
Elhers-Danlos?
@dorakalmar4565
@dorakalmar4565 Жыл бұрын
Some 10 years ago I was working in retail, and one of the customers told me I had gorgeous elbows; weirdest compliment I've ever received, and not a day has gone by since then that i haven't wondered what he meant by that. I will take this explanation, and close that chapter
@Yea___
@Yea___ Жыл бұрын
LOL i think they were just weird
@lulumoon6942
@lulumoon6942 Жыл бұрын
Retail brings out the beasts for sure!
@MegaToonzNetwork
@MegaToonzNetwork Жыл бұрын
You have arms!!!
@Misakigi
@Misakigi Жыл бұрын
As someone who was recently diagnosed with EDS-hypermobility, sometimes the extreme angle is also related to hyperflexible soft tissue (all over the body, but one of the signifiers of h-EDS is hyperextended elbows). Basically, my tendons and ligaments are too flexible and allow the bones to hyperextend beyond what is natural. Pair this was a lack of proprioception (awareness of body in space - aka my body doesn't know I'm hyperextending when I'm doing it) and I end up straining my soft tissue. At first, I feel comfortable. But my body has a delayed reaction to the strain so it isn't until I try to move out of the position that I notice the pain. So now I'm learning not to allow my body to hyperextend all the way and learning to make my muscles keep my bones in the right range of motion instead of constantly stretching them.
@lulumoon6942
@lulumoon6942 Жыл бұрын
Same. Took too many decades to figure this out, though. Well explained.
@spindleblood
@spindleblood Жыл бұрын
Same. I have HS and it freaks out my trainers when they see me lockout my elbows as they bend inward.
@joshyoung1440
@joshyoung1440 Жыл бұрын
Proprioception has nothing to do with how extended your body is. It is LITERALLY about where your limbs are in space, not about their physical impact on each other.
@flatflo
@flatflo 6 ай бұрын
I was wondering if I would find any other hEDSers here! As a kid I would say I was triple jointed as I extended beyond standard double jointedness.
@Kristina-jf4hd
@Kristina-jf4hd 4 ай бұрын
I have hEDS (diagnosed) as well as my middle child (son now 22 also diagnosed). To top that off I have Chiari Malformation plus a history of more minor issues. I would love to see an episode about hEDS and also Chiari; maybe a combo of having both. I have decided to donate my body to science when I pass but not sure how to go about it. As in, do I have to register somewhere or just have it stated in a Will. I figured with all my medical issues, donating my body to science might be helpful in studying these more “rare” or less known conditions.
@Lerrae1908
@Lerrae1908 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, a group I match in life. Short woman with crazy elbows. It's not the tribe I thought I'd be in but hey, it's something.
@ThePinkBinks
@ThePinkBinks 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! High five! * dammit… missed *
@bluebird3042
@bluebird3042 2 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@reflexxuns4065
@reflexxuns4065 2 жыл бұрын
Lol! Yeah, finally at 65 I've found my people!
@enobongasanga7433
@enobongasanga7433 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePinkBinks I came here to comment that I'm also a part of this tribe, then I fell off the chair laughing at your comment
@KaraPeterson2
@KaraPeterson2 2 жыл бұрын
I'll join! 5 feet tall on a good day. My family says I have T-rex arms.
@DH-gq7bm
@DH-gq7bm 2 жыл бұрын
I told my sister about this, and she was like, "it's for shopping, so we can just scoop the stuff off the shelves, and carry it all at once" 😂
@ariadne0w1
@ariadne0w1 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, most women are definitely optimized to carry things. I enjoy having wide hips - if I'm carrying something heavy like shopping bags that I can't just balance on the "shelf" of my hips like I usually do, I instead brace my elbow on my hips, which distributes the weight from my arms to my legs. I can also use my hip "shelves" as armrests when I'm sitting down.
@rascalflattsfanpage
@rascalflattsfanpage 2 жыл бұрын
evolution said "women be shopping"
@deus_ex_machina_
@deus_ex_machina_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@rascalflattsfanpage Well, plucking fruits and berries of just shopping from nature...
2 жыл бұрын
@@ariadne0w1 Optimized for carrying unless a guy is around... just saying.
@JohnDoe-wb2ci
@JohnDoe-wb2ci 2 жыл бұрын
@ maybe its to carry babies
@cruelkitten9148
@cruelkitten9148 Жыл бұрын
Just a thought: if you're carrying something, like a heavy bucket of water for example, you might actually be walking with your arms supinated and a heavy weight attached to them. your arms knocking against your hips in that scenario would put more stress on the joints, so i can see why a more extreme carrying angle might actually sometimes be a benefit for people with wider hips. also, i don't think every secondary sex characteristic necessarily needs to exist because it is considered visually attractive on some level, male any female bodies (typically) have slightly different anatomy and therefore slightly different anatomical needs. a trait that helps prevent damage to the body is as likely to be passed on as a trait that looks visually appealing
@connorjohnmark
@connorjohnmark Жыл бұрын
Right! Carrying buckets of water from a well for a long distance would be a good example.
@ekuu8918
@ekuu8918 Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, as a female (with hyperextending elbows) when I'm carrying something heavy like a bucket, I actually have the tendency to tuck my elbow right into my waist so that I can transfer some of the weight down into my hips. Sort of like the prototypical carrying-baby-on-hip pose, but resting my elbow there. No idea if this is bad on my joints or anything, or how this might work differently for different carrying angles.
@ColoursEverywher
@ColoursEverywher Жыл бұрын
@@ekuu8918 Yes! As a shorter woman, I'll also do that when I'm carrying something to prevent it from hitting/dragging on the ground
@tedchad
@tedchad Жыл бұрын
dainty
@timesthree5757
@timesthree5757 Жыл бұрын
The reason visual is sometimes passed on over what is useful is because visual has a higher chance to attract a mate. In male lions a large mane is attractive to lionesses but he has a higher chance to over heat. A human female as visible breast but an increased chance of cancer. However these attributes increase the chance of mating.
@paulamcdonald6568
@paulamcdonald6568 2 жыл бұрын
I have always freaked out my classmates with my crazy elbow flexibility. I also was told by my best friends mom that I should only wear long sleeve dresses (homecoming shopping). That crushed me and looking back I realize that’s why I chose a long sleeve wedding gown. That’s a bitch move to pull on a 13 year old child...
@DDendrite2
@DDendrite2 2 жыл бұрын
This is the longest setup to a T-pose joke I've ever seen.
@bucketofcheeseballs
@bucketofcheeseballs 2 жыл бұрын
Justin's just asking people to T-pose in the club haha
@theanatomylab
@theanatomylab 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@haze6647
@haze6647 2 жыл бұрын
He got a kink, An elbow fetish, He like a weird elbow, Anyone with a weird elbow can contact justin.
@Canadiangirl4922
@Canadiangirl4922 2 жыл бұрын
I have MASSIVELY weird elbows 😵‍💫. Any time someone sees them, I get asked, “what’s wrong with your elbows?!” They have a really obvious angle to them, where all my yoga instructors and physiotherapists have been fascinated by them! 🤔. They actually look like they’re popping out of their sockets. I’m 5’7” so not on the short side but my arms and legs are also really long and because of that, can easily do most yoga poses. 🧘🏻‍♀️ I guess I’m just a really odd specimen! 😵‍💫
@LittleDergon
@LittleDergon 2 жыл бұрын
So this is a slightly misleading title. It's not that women have weird elbows, it's that short people have weird elbows
@Taiga300
@Taiga300 2 жыл бұрын
@@LittleDergon well, women are usually shorter than men
@nekosaiyajin8529
@nekosaiyajin8529 2 жыл бұрын
5:34 "I don't walk like this, fully supinated" Great sentence, 10/10 delivery
@zoeydeu2261
@zoeydeu2261 2 жыл бұрын
Was told by an ex boyfriend that when we hug, my hyper extended elbows are ugly and looks freaky. I love my weird/cool elbows! They help me reach my back so I can zip up dresses without help, I can reach my entire back to put sunscreen on by myself, I can do certain fluid dance moves with them and when I did self defense class, their flexibility made it hard for the instructor to try to twist my arm
@alejandroperez5368
@alejandroperez5368 Жыл бұрын
I don't think hyperextended elbows have anything to do with your flexibility and the ability to reach your back...
@patrickcrabb6212
@patrickcrabb6212 Жыл бұрын
@@alejandroperez5368 They might have hypermobility. Joints bend more than they really should and, depending how far, can enter the uncanny valley.
@alfred5496
@alfred5496 2 жыл бұрын
"Reason why they are plastic is because I didn't feel like ripping apart Jeffrey just to illustrate this point." I enjoyed this way too much lmao
@geneticallygamer
@geneticallygamer 2 жыл бұрын
My sister also have these weird elbows with massive carrying angle, whenever she shows it to me it looks like her arm is gonna break with just a little force lmao
@andreannnndre
@andreannnndre 2 жыл бұрын
haha my sister too! i always tell her it looks like plastic bones about to break 😂
@Yesi-jt8uo
@Yesi-jt8uo 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh lmao my sister did that too
@kharnsagara
@kharnsagara 2 жыл бұрын
It has a higher chance to break yes
@meghadahire994
@meghadahire994 2 жыл бұрын
I have it too😄...my friends ask me did ever before my bones were broken.
@asiyaabda7495
@asiyaabda7495 2 жыл бұрын
You're describing hypermobile elbows, not the carrying angle
@jenniferpeter5632
@jenniferpeter5632 2 жыл бұрын
it'd be really interesting to compare the carrying angles for men and women who are the same height if the 3rd hypothesis is the case. I'd love to see those between-group comparisons, as well as within-group comparisons to look at increases in carrying angle as height increases
@AbigailPoirier
@AbigailPoirier Жыл бұрын
Yes, that would be interesting. I've been paying attention to pronation vs. supination in my group of friends, after I noticed that 1. my chronic shoulder/neck/upper back ache was improved by externally rotating my arms (very supinated) 2. a couple of my friends walk with their palms completely facing behind them (very pronated) We are of similar heights- and arm lengths, for that matter- but they're males and I'm female. I was wondering if it was a matter of keeping shoulders back for good posture vs. slouching (they both have bad posture) or maybe something women adopt to help support the extra weight we have on the front of our bodies. Or possibly accentuate that area, if they're isn't much there to support, haha
@Jiraiyashouse666
@Jiraiyashouse666 Жыл бұрын
Not height related at all in my observation. I'm 5,5" and my wife and teenage daughter are both 5,1". My daughters best friend is 5,5" and they all 3 have weird snapped over extended elbows. My elbows are very straight and closer to my body than my buddies who are 5,10" to 6,4". I was really hoping to find out the reason because I always freak out when my daughter dangles her arm and it's bending in the WRONG direction.
@spindleblood
@spindleblood Жыл бұрын
​@@Jiraiyashouse666 maybe that person has hypermobility too? What you described sounds like my elbows... Bending in the "wrong direction"
@melsgalleria
@melsgalleria Жыл бұрын
I agree that I do have weird elbows, but I also have a condition called EDS. I would love to see you guys discuss EDS in one of your videos.
@sunshinedaze09
@sunshinedaze09 2 жыл бұрын
i did not expect to learn about this today but i watched the whole thing
@theanatomylab
@theanatomylab 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@viewer9680
@viewer9680 2 жыл бұрын
🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑same
@anum_akhan
@anum_akhan 2 жыл бұрын
@@theanatomylab Thank you for posting J&J 💪🏻
@pranaypallavtripathi2460
@pranaypallavtripathi2460 2 жыл бұрын
By "this" and "whole thing" do you mean the promotion of Brilliant ?
@ioannisaliazis
@ioannisaliazis 2 жыл бұрын
Samesies 😅
@alishaeberhart5413
@alishaeberhart5413 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone around me would always ask me what the heck is wrong with my elbows and I always thought they were just being dramatic or something until I took an anatomy and physiology course in college and when discussing flexion and extension, the professor pointed to me and made me stand up and hold out my arms and proceeded to tell the class that I was an example of someone with hyperextended elbows. I am a super introverted person so, naturally, I wanted to melt into the floor and die from embarrassment.
@thecomorbiditycurator8018
@thecomorbiditycurator8018 2 жыл бұрын
I don't blame you. elbows like yours are a manifestation of Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome and Hypermobility Spectrum Disorder. That professor was being discriminatory by separating you and point out a symptom of a disability, whether they knew it at the time or not. gentle hugs to you, dearest introvert ❤
@joywebster2678
@joywebster2678 Жыл бұрын
Same thing here...hexalso displayed my fingers that bend backwards. I tried sitting further back in theclecture hall! Lol
@impishrebel5969
@impishrebel5969 Жыл бұрын
@@joywebster2678 Have you ever been checked for Ehlers-Danlos syndrome if you dislocate your joints often? Overextending elbows and fingers that bend backward that give your hand a natural curve backward (it's called crane hands iirc because it kinda looks like a bird in flight) and being able to bend them extremely far back when pulling can be symptoms of it if you've got a lot of health problems (unexplained or not, it's misdiagnosed a lot).
@joywebster2678
@joywebster2678 Жыл бұрын
@@impishrebel5969 I have vEDS and hypermobility.
@Sinsanatis
@Sinsanatis Жыл бұрын
great trick with hyperextended elbows is to full extend them with ur palm planted on a table or something and supinate and pronate ur arm back and forth. guaranteed to gross someone out.
@TigeriPlaysGames
@TigeriPlaysGames Жыл бұрын
I took an archery course in college, and I kept hitting my inner elbow with the bowstring and bruising myself. it was there that I actually learned about this weird gendered elbow phenomenon lmao. was kind of a pain, had to deliberately hold my arm in a certain way to avoid hitting myself. worked out once I got the hang of it though!
@MrJules2U
@MrJules2U 2 жыл бұрын
I can confirm that stomping through the club with horizontal supinated elbows is not the best way to receive the 'right' kind of attention.
@Catastropheshe
@Catastropheshe 2 жыл бұрын
You can always say it's for pandemic safety measures
@jaimyw.8842
@jaimyw.8842 2 жыл бұрын
Please tell me you tried it to come to this conclusion
@MrJules2U
@MrJules2U 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaimyw.8842 unfortunately, yes. I can also confirm that excessive alcohol makes you do stupid things.
@Catastropheshe
@Catastropheshe 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrJules2U it's for science!
@bry756
@bry756 2 жыл бұрын
That's where you're wrong.. You gotta float.
@icecoldchilipreppers
@icecoldchilipreppers 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, this channel has helped me change my lifestyle to a healthier one after all these videos showing me how fragile my organs are.
@wildflo267
@wildflo267 2 жыл бұрын
Hands down, the funniest and most underrated comment here!
@LaynieFingers
@LaynieFingers 2 жыл бұрын
Very true, we are fragile, fleshy meatbags filled with lots of different fluids and goos, and it is SO EASY to break us!
@chelychan4863
@chelychan4863 2 жыл бұрын
@@wildflo267 ...stop being a dodo
@MixMastaCopyCat
@MixMastaCopyCat 2 жыл бұрын
@@chelychan4863 why can't people just be normal and genuine without someone being an asshole to them cuz they think theyre being too corny or whatever
@surikoshiro140
@surikoshiro140 Жыл бұрын
I'm a male and I've had elbows like this since way before the onset of puberty. I'm also taller than the average male in the US, and especially taller than the average South Korean male, which is my background. This feels a little contradictory to a lot of things in the video. Would it be possible that there are more factors in the weird elbow thing than you may have covered in this (awesome) video? I know there's a pretty small chance anyone actually sees this, but my elbows make crunching sounds when they go past the "usual" range of motion, and I'm very curious as to why.
@RianeBane
@RianeBane Жыл бұрын
My elbows also make that "crunching" noise. It's probably BECAUSE you're moving them past the normal range of motion - the tendons/ligaments (?) have to shift a little to accommodate, and that makes noise and moves tiny pockets of air around. Kind of like the sound created when you pop your knuckles.
@okty8372
@okty8372 Жыл бұрын
I m 1m84 (male from france) and have those weird elbow to ^^"
@sdk272
@sdk272 Жыл бұрын
Im a 5 9 female so Im taller than the average male, have really long arms and I have these elbows. Ive had them my whole life too. My family always just assumed I was double jointed since Im very boney especially in all my joints and have double joints in my thumbs too. Ive also never seen anyone else with hyperextending elbows like mine or as intense as mine, whenever Ive shown people they are always shocked because it looks like im bending my elbows backwards. I also feel like there might be more to this then just being a secondary sex characteristic
@thecrowsnest6963
@thecrowsnest6963 Жыл бұрын
Yes, genetics or hyper mobility disorders can cause this over extension as shown in the thumbnail. This guy decided to over simplify things for the sake of a video rather than study all the reasons this might happen or discuss differential diagnoses.
@olran6880
@olran6880 Жыл бұрын
OMG! I have always been very self-conscious about my elbows and never really knew why they looked like that until I stumbled across this video. I'm so glad I watched this... So, thanks for enlightening me more on that, it's really helped me.☺
@sarahmiller4084
@sarahmiller4084 2 жыл бұрын
I literally will use this angle to my advantage: I will turn my hands outward while carrying heavy grocery bags. By posting against my internal elbow bones to keep the bags clear of my legs. If my elbow bones need a break (to get circulation), I just flex a little. The other advantage to having this angle/flexibility in the elbow is when holding a newborn. Easier to cradle further under the base of the head while holding the infant in the horizontal position. It's really important to support the baby's head in the first 3 or so months...they have very little neck muscle strength to support their head until they are older.
@theblakemontgomery3728
@theblakemontgomery3728 2 жыл бұрын
I came down here to see if someone already said this. I've been doing this my whole life. When he said carrying angle that was what I thought it was named for but he didn't even talk about it.
@magiv4205
@magiv4205 2 жыл бұрын
Haha yes that's me
@tyrroo
@tyrroo 2 жыл бұрын
"The other advantage to having this angle/flexibility in the elbow is when holding a newborn. Easier to cradle further under the base of the head while holding the infant in the horizontal position. It's really important to support the baby's head in the first 3 or so months...they have very little neck muscle strength to support their head until they are older." Yep, that's clearly why the trait has evolved in most women. I'm surprised this wasn't mentioned in the video!
@rosskstar
@rosskstar 2 жыл бұрын
@@theblakemontgomery3728 Yea, a bit weak. He didn't want to face the blow-back from the genderps. "Search for Jehovah while he may yet be found." - bible
@chassinoir
@chassinoir 2 жыл бұрын
I thought for sure there would be a mention about carrying babies-either cradled or on the hip when they’re older. Glad to see I’m not the only one who thought it.
@amaras.4500
@amaras.4500 2 жыл бұрын
Love the mating dance display near the end. Gonna have to try that out next time I hit up the club lol!!
@theanatomylab
@theanatomylab 2 жыл бұрын
You should!
@Jig_Artist
@Jig_Artist 2 жыл бұрын
Can we have a full report of the results please?
@sunshine3914
@sunshine3914 2 жыл бұрын
Would definitely catch some eyes.
@KennethD000
@KennethD000 2 жыл бұрын
That was my favorite part too!😂😂
@OfficialMyxomatosis
@OfficialMyxomatosis 2 жыл бұрын
@@KennethD000 I had to pause the video and say, "Hey Babe! (pretended to kick door open and said so) check out these *ELBOWS!* BOOYASHAKA!"
@chosensomeonelse
@chosensomeonelse 2 жыл бұрын
"weird elbows" can actually be related to connective tissues (which would include whole more additional topics) and also they're a part of Ehlers-Danlos syndrome
@kristanova9361
@kristanova9361 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy finding a video about elbows like mine. If you have elbows that stick out like a demon, you'd call yourself "double jointed". How people can move their thumbs out of place and etc. When i raise my hand up high or raise them forward like how you did in this video, my elbows look like their broken 😊. It's a fun thing to do to scare people and get their reaction lol. You're officially just awesome and cool if you have crazy ass flexibility in your body on certain body parts.
@Kikkatar.
@Kikkatar. 2 жыл бұрын
“Some of you have weird elbows” Me failing to walk and almost falling down cause my knee wanted to go in the other direction: “If only it was just my elbows.”
@Ombie_Art
@Ombie_Art 2 жыл бұрын
I thought overextanding elbows like this were a sign of hypermobility.. I have it and people said to me it only shows on more flexible people, so i was quite surprise of this video !
@katianaarrindell7478
@katianaarrindell7478 2 жыл бұрын
It is a sign of hypermobility, i have it 2 but in multiple joints.
@clockworkhearts4085
@clockworkhearts4085 2 жыл бұрын
my female hyper-mobile friend had elbows like this
@therainbowconnection6813
@therainbowconnection6813 2 жыл бұрын
It has to be since I know guys that have it.
@savethebees2574
@savethebees2574 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's more likely in women, but it's also definitely a sign of hypermobility - a hypermobile girl
@elenaovcharuk8529
@elenaovcharuk8529 2 жыл бұрын
That seems right. I have such elbows too, but I am not short and my forearms are quite long. But I am flexible by nature, and also can bend my fingers to a great degree.
@angelaengle12
@angelaengle12 Жыл бұрын
The height being the explanation kind of makes sense. I'm 5'6", almost 5'7" and my elbows don't bend back very far. My cousin on the other hand, is around 5'4" and her elbows bend back quite far. I always noticed it as a kid and wondered why her arms did that, lol.
@Jiraiyashouse666
@Jiraiyashouse666 Жыл бұрын
Not height related at all in my observation. I'm 5,5" and my wife and teenage daughter are both 5,1". My daughters best friend is 5,5" and they all 3 have weird snapped over extended elbows. My elbows are very straight and closer to my body than my buddies who are 5,10" to 6,4". I was really hoping to find out the reason because I always freak out when my daughter dangles her arm and it's bending in the WRONG direction.
@wjeiv
@wjeiv 2 жыл бұрын
6'6" thin male here, very much elbows that bend backwards. Used to freak out my friends in school. One of my two daughters (also very tall and thin) got this trait.
@thecrowsnest6963
@thecrowsnest6963 Жыл бұрын
Look into Marfan’s or Loeys Dietz, these are conditions that come with the traits you mention. Worth going to the doctor about because they can cause serious vascular and heart complications.
@TheMegalee84
@TheMegalee84 2 жыл бұрын
I have noticed when carrying heavy things, either luggage, or even heavy buckets(with handles) outside, I tend to supinate my hands so that I have more room to walk while holding the heavy items. Otherwise I am banging the bags or whatever on my thighs. I am a curvy, short woman.
@Koorime18
@Koorime18 2 жыл бұрын
Short female, and i do this too. Especially when hauling all those grocery bags in one go. 😄
@TheMegalee84
@TheMegalee84 2 жыл бұрын
@@Koorime18 yes! It works great for that!
@purcascade
@purcascade 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Never thought about it until now. 🤔
@A.Martin
@A.Martin 2 жыл бұрын
it helps to hold the bags away but it also puts so much strain on your elbows and they get sore right?
@brendaleelydon
@brendaleelydon 2 жыл бұрын
Is this really not a common way to carry things? lol Short curvy woman here (I'm also fat now, but am curvy regardless of weight) & it never occured to me that people carried bags any other way! My daughter carries this way too, but now I dunno if it's due to ECA or because, learned behavior. *Now* I'm gonna be staring at people carrying bags to see how the rest of the world does it. Thanks, Institute of Human Anatomy! 😜
@jannath1
@jannath1 2 жыл бұрын
5'10" male with wonky elbows and wide hips. Decent carrying angle. Was amused and fascinated to find out why to some extent, so thank you!
@SonicdaShapeshifter
@SonicdaShapeshifter Жыл бұрын
I'm 5'3.5 and female with wide hips. I have had people comment on my elbows seeming "double-jointed" before like this! Now I understand why! Very cool video--and it makes me feel better about myself knowing it's actually something useful!
@grapes008
@grapes008 2 жыл бұрын
The reason i was told for the carrying angle was so that when we carried things they didn't bang against our legs while walking. This carrying normally happened when supernated, as women often gathered food and carried it in something it evolved to a greater degree in women than in men. How accurate this theory is, I do not know
@imnourologist
@imnourologist 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on hypermobility?
@Jig_Artist
@Jig_Artist 2 жыл бұрын
Yes please!
@theanatomylab
@theanatomylab 2 жыл бұрын
We will add it to the list!
@ricardobocus6304
@ricardobocus6304 2 жыл бұрын
@@theanatomylab yes... those flexy bendy people 🤔
@RuchamaGrace
@RuchamaGrace 2 жыл бұрын
@@theanatomylab Yes that would be great! I have hypermobile Ehlers Danlos syndrome. Maybe you can mention this too in a video? It's so unknown to many people and so often missed by doctors. So it even might help people get the right diagnosis.
@serpentine_fire_dancer427
@serpentine_fire_dancer427 2 жыл бұрын
@@RuchamaGrace Same reason I keep hoping for hypermobility coverage with the inclusion of significant diagnoses related to hypermobility!
@stijerina6998
@stijerina6998 2 жыл бұрын
I remember in first grade, gym had us all do arm circles and I always noticed my arms seemed bent. I saw this other girl and her arms were the same. I walked up to her and said “hey! Your arms get crooked too. Like mine see!” We became good friends because of that one conversation.
@macgarceau7030
@macgarceau7030 2 жыл бұрын
I think there may be more at play here than just the elbow joint in determining the carry-angle of the forearms. Consider the tightness of the rotator cuff muscles causing external rotation of the humerus. Many, many people have excessively tight supraspinatus, teres, etc, leading to an improper alignment of how the head of the humerus sits in the shoulder capsule. Try this: externally rotate the humerus (as much as you can w/o pain), then internally rotate the radius bone causing pronation of the forearm - likely, your arms carry-angle will not be as distal from midline of body. Now, externally rotate the radius bone causing supination of the forearm (keep externally rotating the humerus) - likely, your arms carry-angle will be more distal from midline. This would suggest the arms carry angle may be in reference to the torqueing taking place at the shoulder capsule; as well as aligning with your point that it may not be a secondary sex characteristic.
@watchingyt
@watchingyt Жыл бұрын
I reloaded my youtube homepage 6 times and this showed up every time so... here i am i guess.
@thomas_lale
@thomas_lale 2 жыл бұрын
The question is, do men and women of the same height have the same carrying angle or not? If they are the same then it can be concluded that it is strictly to do with heigh and if not then there are other factors involved.
@TheHellogs4444
@TheHellogs4444 2 жыл бұрын
183 cm with excessive carrying angle reporting in. +1 datapoint good sir
@brendaleelydon
@brendaleelydon 2 жыл бұрын
What if a male of average height has shorter-than-average arm length? I wonder if he'd be more or less likely to have ECA...
@jht3fougifh393
@jht3fougifh393 2 жыл бұрын
Oooo I'm curious if that correlation exists, now!
@miashinbrot8388
@miashinbrot8388 2 жыл бұрын
This is a really good point, and possibly not in the studies Justin mentioned. As a data point, I'm a 4'9" female aged 69, and I just tried it in a mirror and I appear to have a similar carrying angle to Justin's.
@nicolewagner6549
@nicolewagner6549 2 жыл бұрын
5'8'' female with no carrying angle. My arms can remain straight however they face. In my teens, I did dance and contortion. I'm thinking that is the cause rather than hormones. My other secondary sex characteristics and personality are both feminine.
@melittlelad
@melittlelad 2 жыл бұрын
These type of elbows are perfect for Jiujitsu arm lock defense
@andrewd1763
@andrewd1763 2 жыл бұрын
I am a male, have the elbows and do jiujitsu. I get told everytime I defend an armbar, that I have weird elbows.
@melittlelad
@melittlelad 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewd1763 😂 man I would love these elbows!
@sarahb.6475
@sarahb.6475 2 жыл бұрын
You may think it's great but its a sign of hypermobility! These kind of bendy joints can get damaged easily. Many people who have this have joints popping out of the sockets. Its called EDS. Ehlers danlos syndrome. And gut problems go with it too!
@Izik8890
@Izik8890 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarahb.6475 I wouldn't say "many". most people who have hypermobility don't have negative side effects, a minority has issues like pain and more common injuries and EDS is even rarer. EDS totally sucks but having wierd elbows doesn't have to mean much more than just wierd elbows.
@emschlef
@emschlef 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, it's a good advantage but you have to be careful still. If I can't escape I know they have good armbar technique, otherwise it's easy to slip out.
@donotsupportterroristgroups
@donotsupportterroristgroups Жыл бұрын
Oh, no! Now I'm going to be that one....the weird one who is checking out everybody's elbows at the family reunion.
@lylewilletts2978
@lylewilletts2978 2 жыл бұрын
FYI quick test of carrying angle, arms straight out in front, palms up. Touch both elbows and wrists. High carrying angle can touch both. Low can only touch wrists. I’m 6’ male with high carrying angle.
@catpoke9557
@catpoke9557 2 жыл бұрын
The question is: Who really has weird elbows? Men, or women? I guess the answer is neither in the end, haha. But scientists can be a little odd sometimes in how they view things. Neither state is the 'default' state of human beings, there's about a 50/50 split. So neither state can be weird, can it?
@satellitestargazer2770
@satellitestargazer2770 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's kinda weird how the scientific community "others" us. Although maybe in this contexts he said women have weird elbows because he is speaking from the perspective of a singular male.
@anguishedcarpet
@anguishedcarpet 2 жыл бұрын
alright time for critical thinking. This mutation occurs in functionally zero men. It occurs in a non zero number of women, leaving a non zero number without. If you sum up the male and female numbers on having the mutation vs not the "default" across the species would be the elbow seen in men, thus making the mutation aberrant or "weird". Don't be so quick to sprint to the oppression olympics
@catpoke9557
@catpoke9557 2 жыл бұрын
@@anguishedcarpet I wasn't implying oppression. I said scientists are weird. And I think you're misunderstanding. This isn't a mutation. That's why it's weird to call women the weird ones, in this case. Think of it like this. Why do you assume the 'default' elbow is one without a large carrying angle, rather than one with? Because clearly you do, since you think the large carrying angle is the mutation, rather than the small one. Almost every woman has a carrying angle like this, it's something I've noticed as an artist, so I know it's not a mutation... simply because there are as many men WITH a carrying angle like this as there are women without, in my experience. There's a reason artists always draw women with a large carrying angle and men without. It's because it's not an abnormality or an exception, it's essentially the rule. There's no reason why either elbows should be considered weird, let alone women's. The only reason they are considered weird is, news flash, NOT because of oppression olympics- but because of sub-conscious ways of thinking. When you think of a human, you usually think of a man. Doesn't mean you're sexist, it's just a sub-conscious thing. And this especially applies if you are a man yourself, which if I recall right, most people in the medical field are. So it's no wonder that upon seeing the shape of women's elbows, scientists might get confused and view it as 'weird' or a mutation, like you. Truth is, it just seems to be in the same situation as breasts. It's not an abnormality in any way, it's just how human females are. I only called scientists weird because they tend to forget to factor in things like these sub-conscious thoughts, and it leads to weird situations like these. Remember. Not everyone who mentions women being treated differently is automatically trying to educate you about why women have it so awful in the world and how everything sucks. Sometimes they're just pointing out a fact. Sometimes, that fact may even involve oppression, and you shouldn't get angry in the case that it does, if it truly is a fact. Not an opinion, you can argue about that. But if it's a FACT. Anyways.. Other times, it just... doesn't involve oppression. At all. Everyone and everything is treated differently. And it can be interesting or useful to point it out. Men are treated differently too. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Use critical thinking to evaluate the situation before sprinting to the anti-oppression olympics.
@nazojin7557
@nazojin7557 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he's trying to not be offensive while talking about a part of a woman's body that he finds weird.
@rosemali3022
@rosemali3022 2 жыл бұрын
@Cat Poke I actually had an elbow that I thought was weird. I can basically squeedgy it. Also move back and forth. It wasn't until now i thought it was special. Meh, it's all good. But that fellow sucks.
@kariduanimations
@kariduanimations 2 жыл бұрын
So T-posing to express dominance finally has science behind it
@Sillysh_ha
@Sillysh_ha Жыл бұрын
"I didn't feel like ripping apart Jeffery just to illustrate a point." Definitely not a sentence that I would ever use in my life. 😅
@kyrab7914
@kyrab7914 Жыл бұрын
"I don't know about YOU but I don't walk like this" made me honestly bust out laughing at 5 am
@angrybird5699
@angrybird5699 2 жыл бұрын
Ughh. My brother was always curious about my elbow. Now I'm gonna send him this vid :) Thanks!
@theanatomylab
@theanatomylab 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@beansterfire82
@beansterfire82 2 жыл бұрын
at the beginning he mentioned about men having adams apples, but am I the only person that finds large adams apples creepy. Like if I look at one for a while, something about it just sends a shiver up my spine.
@khxliakhxlia3605
@khxliakhxlia3605 2 жыл бұрын
It's like a bird is about to puncture through their throat
@josef7461
@josef7461 2 жыл бұрын
I have a fairly large one and while i dont notice it much, if i really stare long and hard at it it does look very strange lol
@mikesrandomchannel
@mikesrandomchannel Жыл бұрын
@@khxliakhxlia3605 Gee thx for that :-)
@mikesrandomchannel
@mikesrandomchannel Жыл бұрын
They are indeed hideous.
@i10i60
@i10i60 Жыл бұрын
If I stare at an Adam's apple for a long time, it starts looking odd for some reason. Idk.
@danas986
@danas986 Жыл бұрын
I have these and noticed around my 20s when I was leaning on a table. The angle which I could rotate my elbow would freak people out because it looks broken. I don't have EDS or hypermobility or anything like that.
@grenade8572
@grenade8572 8 ай бұрын
I discovered it in my early 20s while teaching to highschoolers. I accidentaly made the whole class cringe extending my arm on the side. Yes, I made cringe some boys/girls at an age they fear nothing and nobody. One of my biggest achievements so far. 😂
@evajulia2121
@evajulia2121 Жыл бұрын
My elbows are just like that, i can even twist them around. In something that my anatomy teacher called "Super Pronation". I thought anyone could do it until we saw the forearm in that class.
@Awkward_Fox
@Awkward_Fox 2 жыл бұрын
As a male with a connective tissue disorder, I have these weird elbows, and they will get worse because my body won't be able to hold itself together in the coming years. So, I'd love to know (and see) how syndromes such as Ehlers Danlos affect the body in the joints, and cardiovascular system. And, by extension, Marfan Syndrome, which is similar, but can also affect the eyes
@olive_99
@olive_99 2 жыл бұрын
I was just about to say it’s probably just EDS lol
@GlennMcGrewII
@GlennMcGrewII 2 жыл бұрын
The Comorbidity Curator has EDS. I probably have Hypermobility Spectrum Disorder, Marfan's, OI, or another collagen disorder. What exactly are you looking for that a quick search of the Internet has not revealed?
@claire5399
@claire5399 2 жыл бұрын
EDS is systematic . Connection tissue which stretchy now will soon collapse . Defective collagen , veins eyes all organs tendons ligaments, If anyone here has elbows like that get diagnosed and tested. Genetic and needs to be managed by a doctor is your fortunate to find one to knows about EDS.
@laughatdadgaming5947
@laughatdadgaming5947 2 жыл бұрын
@@claire5399 "Systemic". You are correct, although there are other syndromes with the same symptom of hyper-extension of the joints, and some with elastic skin, too.
@claire5399
@claire5399 2 жыл бұрын
@@laughatdadgaming5947 I know, one should have a genetic person Ck one out..
@marksnow8838
@marksnow8838 2 жыл бұрын
"The data would suggest that you're probably shorter than most individuals" Ooooffffff such a polite 3rd degree burn for short people.
@MrSoulcreek
@MrSoulcreek 2 жыл бұрын
me: 189cm (6′ 2 ft) heavy guy... explain my weird elbows, science man!
@miashinbrot8388
@miashinbrot8388 2 жыл бұрын
Was it a burn? I suspect Justin in shorter than the average man in North America, though it's hard to be sure in a video.
@carissafisher7514
@carissafisher7514 2 жыл бұрын
I am not short!
@emmazig
@emmazig Жыл бұрын
It’s funny, I have hyperextension and therefore these “weird” elbows, but most people I’ve met regardless of gender find it weird or gross and I’ve gotten many comments on it telling me to stop or that it’s weirding people out. It seems that it’s relatively uncommon for elbows to look like they’re bending backwards!
@Brievel
@Brievel 10 ай бұрын
Gross is a cruel way to put it. I can see how it would fall into the uncanny valley though.
@YvesyM
@YvesyM 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you left the Ad until the end of the video..very appropriate considering the people who would be interested in the course would more than likely watch this video until the end! Ps. fun video idea!
@TheLaughingDove
@TheLaughingDove 2 жыл бұрын
I was so excited when you started talking about how the height seemed to line up with this, I often wonder how many sex-attribute patterns are being thrown off by not factoring height and limb proportions... It's true that males are more likely to be larger, but there's so much overlap in our species and it seems prudent to determine what is more size based vs sex based when size is more environmentally influenced/controled
@mirjam3553
@mirjam3553 2 жыл бұрын
Also it showing up at puberty - well, yeah, the growth spurt and all of that part of adultening.
@chestnut4860
@chestnut4860 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it, I'm a tall female, I was really insecure that I was trollish and ugly until he got to that part.
@vokovom-u9332
@vokovom-u9332 2 жыл бұрын
Well It's not like only people in one specific area are doing research. If you see the same results in places with different population then that's the answer. You don't need to wonder too much. It's just about comparing results. lol
@AdmiringObserverR
@AdmiringObserverR Жыл бұрын
Yes I suspect this type of thing is due to height more than sex but just a hunch
@Jiraiyashouse666
@Jiraiyashouse666 Жыл бұрын
Not height related at all in my observation. I'm 5,5" and my wife and teenage daughter are both 5,1". My daughters best friend is 5,5" and they all 3 have weird snapped over extended elbows. My elbows are very straight and closer to my body than my buddies who are 5,10" to 6,4". I was really hoping to find out the reason because I always freak out when my daughter dangles her arm and it's bending in the WRONG direction.
@EnzymaticCatalysis
@EnzymaticCatalysis 2 жыл бұрын
Went into this thinking he would roast women’s elbows, left knowing he just roasted shorter than average individuals
@MustObeyTheRules
@MustObeyTheRules 2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t roast anyone at all
@EnzymaticCatalysis
@EnzymaticCatalysis 2 жыл бұрын
@@MustObeyTheRules yeah it’s a tongue in cheek joke that also wasn’t even a good joke because I’m unfunny but what can ya do yknow?
@-Cece
@-Cece 2 жыл бұрын
@@EnzymaticCatalysis ....but....I agree with you.. I couldn't finish the video once he started talking about shorter people.....
@chestnut4860
@chestnut4860 2 жыл бұрын
@@-Cece As a tall woman who can't do the elbow thing, I was feeling ugly UNTIL he got to that point.
@Jenna1394
@Jenna1394 2 жыл бұрын
@@-Cece So you came to this video to hear a man talk crap about women? Weird.
@YukaritheHistory
@YukaritheHistory Жыл бұрын
Thank GOD I've been curious about this since I was around 15 when I noticed that my elbows stretch at around 45 degrees and it looked so weird. Now I know it's not just me, and it even has a name. So satisfying to know this!!!
@haru_catty
@haru_catty Жыл бұрын
Bro the other day I was literally so curious about why my elbow is so weird. I thought I was double jointed or something. This makes so much sense. Great video!
@amythomas1124
@amythomas1124 2 жыл бұрын
My Dad is 6’4”. My Mom was 5’2”. I’m 5’9”. Glad I never got as tall as my Dad, but I got his long arms. We both have had horrible problems purchasing winter coats, because of longer arms.
@jordanr6174
@jordanr6174 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf ??? Why would you be glad you’re not 6’4?
@martinolong
@martinolong 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordanr6174 Awkward height for a woman
@jordanr6174
@jordanr6174 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinolong I didn’t know she was a woman.
@xavii_ino
@xavii_ino 2 жыл бұрын
@@martinolong no
@amythomas1124
@amythomas1124 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordanr6174 Because I’m a woman. My best friend is a woman, she’s 6 foot tall, and hard to find cute clothes being just 6 foot. 🙄
@whatamievendoing3416
@whatamievendoing3416 2 жыл бұрын
Laughs in ehlers danlos syndrome where half my joint hyperextend like this. On a more serious note, wish he would have included this in the video - so many times it's brushed over as nothing.
@tak1751
@tak1751 Жыл бұрын
This makes so much sense! Ballet can do crazy things to your body. Especially when started at a young age.
@spandexunderwear3630
@spandexunderwear3630 2 жыл бұрын
Finally a video about this topic! I have always noticed that every single girl I met had elbows that extended beyong straight, while every guy couldn't extend them more than straight.
@kaliensmashingatoms
@kaliensmashingatoms 2 жыл бұрын
You guys easily have one of the best channels on KZfaq. You don't nag people for subscriptions and likes, you accurately and sort of been layman's terms explain things very well. My wife and I really enjoy watching you guys and look forward to more of your great content
@chronicwarrior4019
@chronicwarrior4019 2 жыл бұрын
How about Ehlers Danlos Syndrome playing a part in the elbows extending when holding them out to the sides?
@ellendavies3204
@ellendavies3204 2 жыл бұрын
Just about to say hEDS or hypermobility... I haven't even yet watched the full video yet and I'm thinking EDS especially as soft skin was mentioned too. Zebra life🤣
@chronicwarrior4019
@chronicwarrior4019 2 жыл бұрын
@@ellendavies3204 I have hEDS & all the comorbidities that go along with it.
@serpentine_fire_dancer427
@serpentine_fire_dancer427 2 жыл бұрын
I'm about to get my evaluation by a rheumatologist in October for EDS. It would explain so much throughout my life! I've been really hoping for coverage on hypermobility and other related info from this channel.
@LaynieFingers
@LaynieFingers 2 жыл бұрын
@@serpentine_fire_dancer427 I'm hoping to get evaluated soon, but I don't have insurance at the moment. However, I was diagnosed with floppy joint syndrome at 17, which I recently remembered, and apparently is what they called eds back then. So weird.
@serpentine_fire_dancer427
@serpentine_fire_dancer427 2 жыл бұрын
@@LaynieFingers Wow, floppy joint syndrome? 🤔 Definitely a weird...alternative name? Considering EDS has been described for millennia and officially named in 1936, not to mention hypermobility is nothing new at all. 🤔 I had never heard that name before. I hope you'll be able to get an up to date 2017 criteria evaluation sooner than later! It's such a long road getting this figured out.
@NomadJRG
@NomadJRG Жыл бұрын
Me and some friends noticed this over 10 years ago in high school, we always thought it had something to do with women's wider hips. Interesting to hear your thoughts!
@carapurdy9520
@carapurdy9520 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked this. The hyperextension of the elbow joint causing bony growths makes me think of hypermobile individuals with greatly changed elbow mobility, and how many are women, and some genetic relationships are still unknown. as a woman with Hypermobile Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, would you be able to do a video on connective tissue disorders? Thank you.
@lulumoon6942
@lulumoon6942 Жыл бұрын
YES!!!
@flatflo
@flatflo 6 ай бұрын
I would love to know if they could see or feel any difference in connective tissues of EDSers!
@GM-qi8pw
@GM-qi8pw 2 жыл бұрын
just gotta say. I like what this channel has grown into. I've been watching since you started out on KZfaq. congratulations on 2 million subscribers.
@apolloandwarrior_3229
@apolloandwarrior_3229 2 жыл бұрын
I'm the shortest person in my anatomy class, and I've known of my weird elbows for years. I used to freak people out with them. I'm gonna have to see this monday when we [hopefully] have everyone.
@JustADogLover396
@JustADogLover396 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha. Holy crap, I haven't even watched the video but everytime I stretch my elbow does the weird thing in the thumbnail. My dad always says "Ewwww. Why does your elbow to that?" I'm like, what?
@kristanova9361
@kristanova9361 2 жыл бұрын
Yup same. I knew since I was in high school when I tried joining cheerleading, everyone noticed my elbows bended out like as if they were broken. Never broke a bone. Just how I like saying it, I'm double jointed 😂👍🏻😊. I'd joke around with my siblings acting like I'm in a scary movie, I'm the best sister I promise.
@JustADogLover396
@JustADogLover396 2 жыл бұрын
@@kristanova9361 hah. You sound like a great sister lol. I have a little brother, I don't think he's ever noticed my elbows lol
@alphamorion4314
@alphamorion4314 Жыл бұрын
The biomechanical explanation makes so much sense.
@agustinafern8262
@agustinafern8262 2 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: Humans are very weird animals.
@tubax926
@tubax926 2 жыл бұрын
Animals are very werid creatures
@SteelSkin667
@SteelSkin667 2 жыл бұрын
@jango papo things are very weird stuff
@kharnsagara
@kharnsagara 2 жыл бұрын
You barely realize that now?.... Like still drinking milk at a later age from another animal wasn't a clue?...
@mangg0879
@mangg0879 2 жыл бұрын
@@SteelSkin667 stuff is a very weird existence
@onewholovesvenison5335
@onewholovesvenison5335 2 жыл бұрын
If half the population has a trait, then it is not “weird”.
@angelface925
@angelface925 2 жыл бұрын
Well, depending on context, weird is sometimes interchangeable with odd or unusual. It's not half the population, it's half of most genetic females. So at most, 1/4? Totally had me thinking of syndrome, though! "If everyone is special, nobody is."
@Rumo_Notna
@Rumo_Notna 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone has a tailbone, it's still something weird.
@korvincarry3268
@korvincarry3268 2 жыл бұрын
Youre weird
@grooooootie
@grooooootie 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a female and in that position I have no gap with my body, like it sticks to my body...I can lift it up but still...
@Skag_Sisyphus
@Skag_Sisyphus 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Testicles are weird. Hitchhikers thumbs are weird. Even stuff that exists in at least almost the entire human population is weird. Ear wax, for instance, is weird. Lots of human shit is weird. We are strange animals. Maybe not as strange as cats, but strange nonetheless.
@AnkhAnanku
@AnkhAnanku 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, I’m confused. I’m short 5’6 with narrow hips, long arms proportional to my body, and my elbows can hyperextend in supination, so what’s up with my carrying angle? I can brace both my elbows and my hands directly against my body from that position. Hell, I can make that elbow gap and still firmly touch my hips with the outer edges of my hands. The narrower angle is supposed to be for males, but the hyperextensibility is supposed to be a feminine trait? The output of these variables seems contradictory 🤨
@jinx17
@jinx17 Жыл бұрын
I have these weird elbows lol didn't think about it until someone saw it and asked if I was "double jointed" 😂 (I'm a short woman)
@anneribeiro0506
@anneribeiro0506 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE this channel so much,thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!!
@theanatomylab
@theanatomylab 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@aarontrevett9260
@aarontrevett9260 2 жыл бұрын
What about knees? When my sister stands, her knees bend backwards behind her as she stands, where as mine are straight/slightly bent. She also has weird elbows, whereas I can't make mine completely flat/straight
@KaceyRenee_x
@KaceyRenee_x 2 жыл бұрын
I’m also curious about knees. Mine can face each other… which I gathered isn’t normal from people’s horrified reactions 😂
@jennifercurry84
@jennifercurry84 2 жыл бұрын
Your sister almost certainly has hypermobility syndrome. Get jer to look up the Beighton and Brighton scales.
@dinil5566
@dinil5566 2 жыл бұрын
@@jennifercurry84 oh c'mon... Don't do my man like that.
@andreannnndre
@andreannnndre 2 жыл бұрын
thats sth ive also noticed about my sister... no idea what that might be
@robinbull6348
@robinbull6348 2 жыл бұрын
It's so women can still balance, stand and walk when heavily pregnant, I assume.
@jelliiifiiish
@jelliiifiiish 7 ай бұрын
I love this channel, thanks for the laughs & the knowledge 😊
@theshermantanker7043
@theshermantanker7043 2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly this also means certain ladies are slightly more resistant to hyperextension injuries of the elbow
@souravhaldar3503
@souravhaldar3503 2 жыл бұрын
Being a medical aspirant I use to visit your channel oftently and your all videos are very very informative indeed ❤️❤️❤️ Please upload more videos...
@aellaaskew4263
@aellaaskew4263 2 жыл бұрын
As someone with hypermobile joints - elbows in particular- There should be EXTREME emphasis on this being a trait of Hypermobility Syndromes---like Marfans or what I have Ehlers Danlos Syndrome.
@joywebster2678
@joywebster2678 Жыл бұрын
Yep I've EDS too
@norabastas8442
@norabastas8442 Жыл бұрын
I have HSD and i sat here thinking this too! From what i've seen EDS/HSD is far more common in women than men, really interesting! Would love to see more research being done about this.
@joywebster2678
@joywebster2678 Жыл бұрын
@@norabastas8442 my dad, one brother and his father had the vascular EDS I have. EDS worsens as it goes down each generation in severity.
@sarahg2653
@sarahg2653 Жыл бұрын
So do your joints just wobble all the time? Can't imagine what this condition feels like!
@norabastas8442
@norabastas8442 Жыл бұрын
@@sarahg2653 kind of haha! Most of my joints ”wobble”, go farther than they should, dislocate and generally just feel less stable and weight bearing than my few good joints, if that makes sense.
@sarahholman5996
@sarahholman5996 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy these videos as a Kinesiology major.
@Themsbeatlesrock
@Themsbeatlesrock Жыл бұрын
i have these! i love putting my wrist on a table, putting my weight on my elbow and cracking them even further inwards :) it feels good.
@moonmaiden4197
@moonmaiden4197 2 жыл бұрын
Been having elbow pain in both my elbows for weeks now out of the blue. This came at a perfect time.
@ricardobocus6304
@ricardobocus6304 2 жыл бұрын
Hail Algorithm!
@Emerald.She-Ra
@Emerald.She-Ra 2 жыл бұрын
Be careful, that could be a sign of cervical myelopathy. Trust me, I've been through it and am four weeks post cervical vertebrae fusion surgery. One of the signs were painful elbows. You should talk to your doctor and consider getting an mri or ct scan on your spine.
@thecomorbiditycurator8018
@thecomorbiditycurator8018 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome?
@susiesweet8003
@susiesweet8003 2 жыл бұрын
There was an episode of All In The Family eons ago, Gloria showed Meathead & Archie the chair trick. 😄 All the women, including neighbors, were able to lift the chair & none of the men could. I'm guessing you know what I'm talking about. If not, just ask. I loved this demonstration because women could do something men could not & they couldn't understand why. 😂 I had fun with this one. For years I pulled this on men without revealing the secret. It drove them nuts. 🤣 Last year I showed my two gransons & one grandaughter. As much as my gransons would try...they couldn't do it but my grandaughter could. 😆 This went on for about 20 mins because my boys were determined to do it. I felt sorry for them so I explained the reason behind it. 🤭
@TheHellogs4444
@TheHellogs4444 2 жыл бұрын
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@Naptosis
@Naptosis 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHellogs4444 Thank you for linking the video!
@chestnut4860
@chestnut4860 2 жыл бұрын
What's gonna happen if you get a tall woman who can't do it or a short man who can?
@diabloo7
@diabloo7 Жыл бұрын
this channel is so so good
@Waywardtrickdogs
@Waywardtrickdogs Жыл бұрын
I think the elbow Brighton test would have been easier if both tests were to find the same results .. that’s what I was expecting to see from the video. It’s used to see how hypermobile someone’s joints are/assess someone for hypermobility disorders like Ehlers Danilo’s Syndrome or other types of hypermobility spectrum disorder
@faranocks
@faranocks 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: I have an extremely excessive carrying angle, and it isn't due to my height or sex. My right arm/shoulder was immobilized due to surgery a few times when I was extremely young (several months to several years old). As a result I have around 5-15 degrees of movement more in every aspect with my left arm than I have with my right arm. As a result, even though I'm 5'10" (about average height) the carrying angle of my right arm is around 10 degrees larger than my left arm. Some differences in mobility: I can touch my left ear with my left arm reaching behind my back, and keeping my face forwards, and I can only touch the back of my neck with my right arm. When I extend my left elbow it locks at 180 degrees, my right arm locks closer to 175. I can touch my belly button with my left hand from behind, but I'm 3 inches off with my right hand. If I reach my left arm down my spine, it is close to parallel with it, but it is around 35 degrees off with my right arm.
@thecrowsnest6963
@thecrowsnest6963 Жыл бұрын
Probably hyper mobility, Ehlers Danlos, or Marfan’s. A geneticist can tell you.
@TheMarly11
@TheMarly11 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy about this video. I do have these elbows and never really understood why. Keep going with your videos I very much enjoy them ☺️
@witchypeoniflorallungs3044
@witchypeoniflorallungs3044 2 жыл бұрын
Not watched the video just yet but clicked bc my elbows are like this which is always icky awesome (lil protractor noodles~) but I’m also doubled jointed in multiple places, in physically painful ways. (For those who don’t know, it’s mainly ligaments based and if you’re a tool like me, you can dislocate and lock into a faulty position often c: Utter bother to have to sift through pain to carefully put things back, not cause serious lasting damage, then build up strength again. Truly CBA!)
@kyleeconrad
@kyleeconrad 2 жыл бұрын
A deep voice and brawny big men definitely dont always go hand in hand. Anybody who's been Rickrolled knows this.
@pawelkusmierek109
@pawelkusmierek109 2 жыл бұрын
I am wondering if the actual reason has more to do with the knees than with what arms and elbows do or don't do. For mechanical reasons of leg mobility, wider hips (more common in females)_may be associated with femurs positioned at an angle towards the midline, so that the lower legs remain close to each other instead of being spread apart at the same distance as the hip joints. This necessitates that the knee forms an angle between roughly vertical tibia and more oblique femur. The occurrence of a similar angle at the elbow would be only a side effect of the same genes controlling the development and post-puberty growth of the upper and lower extremity.
@WEYffles
@WEYffles 2 жыл бұрын
That explains everything about the thigh gap, thank you
@RosesAndIvy
@RosesAndIvy 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing! It may not actually have a reason
@ptah4611
@ptah4611 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same thought.
@shimmeringchimps3842
@shimmeringchimps3842 Жыл бұрын
That's called the valgus angle.
@_phoenix2.076
@_phoenix2.076 2 жыл бұрын
One of these days I'll try to walk in fully supinated position around our house because I'm bored. 😂
@kipper1668
@kipper1668 2 жыл бұрын
I love justin's presentation style,
@cheesethekoala8756
@cheesethekoala8756 2 жыл бұрын
That’s so strange, I’ve always known I have hyperextension in my elbow, and I’ve gone around throughout my life wondering if my friends had it too, and we’d compare, and I’ve always noticed equal parts male and females had hyperextension in their elbows
@matheusdasilvagmoreira3657
@matheusdasilvagmoreira3657 Жыл бұрын
Im a man and my elbows also have hyperextension
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