THINGS TO NOTE ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION. 1. Men who are intimated by successful women are men who are beneath those women socially & in status. 2. How come it's only women over 30 years old who always say they intimidate men? I have never heard of women in their 20s say the same thing. 3. Men prefer younger women who they can lead. It's like that's verse that says, train a child in the ways of the lord. So that when they grow up, they won't depart from them. In short, you cant teach an old dog new tricks. 4. What women call "empowerment" is simply having a job & paying all your bills. But you're an adult. These are things you should do for yourself without expecting to be cheered. Because we chose to hustle, we also chose to take the responsibilities that come with it. It's called being an adult. 5. Real empowerment is seen when you can do things you weren't allowed to do. But women have been working for the last 60 years. So how have they not been empowered financially? 6. Modern women place value in being able to sustain themselves. But who was supposed to do that from the beginning? 7. Some of these women were raised by single mothers. How would they know how to build a relationship if they've never seen a functioning one from home? They clearly don't know anything about being a wife or a girlfriend to someone because they never saw their mothers be that. & that's not their fault. But to repeat that cycle is. 7. Women over 30 have generally been through a lot. Being emotional beings, it takes a toll on them. & pair bonding becomes difficult. So they drown themselves in work. 8. I am yet to see a woman say that the man she's attracted to or interested in, is intimidated by her. If he is & you want him, what does that say about your choices in men? Furthermore, women know that the only men who matter are those ones they want or those who are above them in every way, shape or form. 9. I am all for women growing in life. But your innate desire is to have a family of your own. You can be super successful in life, but without that, you're not considered a woman yet. That's just how life is. I mean, you cant be an hopeless romantic & still claim to want career over family. 10. If truly women have evolved to being modern, why should men continue being traditional? & what exactly is a modem woman? Because I haven't seen any woman take a man out on a date, pay his bills, propose to him, build him up, be comfortable with him being a stay at home dad & all. Female empowerment, this modern version of it, is an idea created to deny the woman her real feminine essence. Just the same way neglecting the man is a narrative created to destroy the real essense of a man.

Lydia's skin is skinning 🔥.She comes across as very authentic

I honestly hate the way Anifa is sarcastically laughing. Respect Lydia's opinion because to me and many others she's making a lot of sense. Next time she should stile up.

The lady with the dreads is making it seem like she is so much aware than other women. Lady, the self awareness comes with time and experience. I like how Lydia is very open with her mistakes and her path to healing.

Hanifa is so out of touch with reality 😢, i didn't like how she was attacking Lydia, The things Lyd was saying are so real, it's what is happening in the society & women have changed,some don't want children & marriage & that's okay. Good job Lyd for speaking your truth, keeping your composure and tackling this with maturity and grace❤❤❤

Everyone needs a Lydia in their life! Shes real, honest and uses her own experiences and life lessons not theory. I love that shes also introspective and unlearning, learning and relearning unapologetically

The lady in yellow blouse is the MVP, she's real and entertaining, you should definitely bring her back.

Lydia is the gal here❤ So real. Men, this Lydia is the real wife material 🎉

Lydia all the way....she is so real...the show is all about her....until the other ladies can just afford to laugh..i love her courage and her convincing power..❤

Hanifa is treating this like a courtroom, and it's not. She should appreciate that people have different opinions and experiences, without trying to counter or object to everything. The other two are very reasonable and pleasant to watch.

And it is not that Lydia is advocating for nyash/money culture, she just saying what is happening in the real world.

anifa is just waiting for Lydia to speak ndio auto makosa, the fact that Lydia never get's defensive shows she's self aware and on the right track

Great conversation. I felt Anifa was attacking every statement Lydia was making. Lydia is a real vibe and spoke what is on the ground. Anifa should listen more and not respond by making reference to other people's experiences. This is not a debate but a conversation

Lydia is raw and candid 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Rose is more of an introvert ❤❤❤ Anifa is a good opposer (for lack of a better word)🎉🎉🎉 The overall thing is, we should be aware and intentional.

There is always a pressure at your 30's when you are not married and no kids, but people tend to pretend that it's ok, but it's not OK, come and ask me, I got married at 35 and I know how it is.

LYDIA AND ROSE ARE SO REAL AND LOGICAL ❤

Getting a good man is our Father's assignment. He matches you for His purpose. When a man knows your Father He will definitely discern who you are. The most beautiful thing l have experienced in this world is when a man knows you are his wife. It doesn't hold much if you are a King's daughter, a super woman or a shy girl he will do anything to have you. Nothing shall intimidate him. Another powerful tool for women over 30 is to work on yourself being the right partner instead of looking for Mr right. Go for therapy, deal with your wounds, strip off your warped ideologies, work on your relationship with God and warm up for a man whom the lord has prepared for you. Stop chasing men & acting desperate. Many miss good opportunities because of unpreparedness, toxicity, unrealistic expectations/standards & wasting time knowingly with users. Being over 30 is actually a strength because you are mature & focused. Dont allow street talk define you- let your purpose speak for you.

Lydia is so real, that's the situation on the ground where you find yourself ok without marriage.

The way Lydia threw delulu out the window and laid things down transparently for what they are??? Omg!!! Such a smart and real babe that one!!!

I like how Lydia thinks! She may have made some mistakes in her past, but a smart person learns from experiences! Kindly talk of women who want to be child-free, different panel but include Lydia. Thanks

I got married at 25yrs now almost mid thirties still here and happy❤❤❤... Marriage is a two way and the two must in a place where they understand how to handle each other.. Communicate better in all aspects of the Union

I had a bad day but Lydia cheered me up❤😂. Rose is so composed. Hanifa seems to have something against Lydia and it shouldn't be the case. I felt uncomfortable how she attacks Lydia yet she is expressing reality.

Lydia is the full vibe! So real and relatable. Great show Lynn, thank you.

Love love love Lydia's willingness to be honest and vulnerable. Anifa speaks from the sunny side of life, and we understand....Rose has such beautiful melanin skin and eyes eish. Lovely group. Host them again please!.... and give Lydia her own show this instant😊

At 30's you are brilliant and ready to make better financial decisions & not ready to take BS🙂😁👏Bravo Ladies

Lydiah is so mature, never once allowed herself to be put down and was so honest with her experiences

Lynn next Friday, bring a panel of men in the same age bracket tusikie from them as well. Add a pastor there as well..

I think men are misunderstood. We are attracted to feminine energy in a relationship. Just as women aren’t attracted to feminine men, men aren’t attracted to masculine energy in women. Its NOT about feeling intimidated. Also, Kenyan men and women have become dangerously uncultured.

I just love Lydia and her way of viewing things,at 30s it's time to fix the mistakes you made at 20s.having a career as a woman is very important.dont follow what the society is doing,,just do you.

Lydia is amazing....she is showing us her wounds as she shows us her growth ...very relatable! The with dreads comes out lacking conversational skills. She could have communicated her story or experience and people who relate to her could have learnt. Overall good conversation.

Lydia has really made my day. This lady is so real.

Allow people to have their lived experiences and stop being self-righteous @ miss advocate. No one knows everything, if we did you all would not be on that couch. We figure it out as we go along and sometimes, we get it right and other times we get it awfully wrong. . . and can even repeat these negative experiences to our detriment. That's just life and how we learn. Be humble!!!

The advocate came off as judgy, in my opinion she talked to Lydia in a condescending manner, i was soo triggered honestly

As a woman, let people live the way that works for them. If going 50 50 works then good, if being a house wife where the man is providing 100% then its still fine. As long as there's no disrespect or violence. Kos i believe every marriage or relationship is a manual of its own.

Lydia has conquered her wisdom

I love Lydia a lot, she is so truthful, humorous and relatable to what’s on the ground.

Lydia is the real deal, quite calm and in touch with reality, very mature. I really did not like how Anifa was attacking her, and trying to show how she is better/wiser than her. Anifa is quite shallow and delusional in my opinion. All in all Lydia any day, everyday.

Hanifah, you’re not in court you keep objecting Lydia’s view. Give your view without having to try hard to put oppose her the entire time. You act triggered, her points are so valid and it’s the situation on the ground.

I think people are overreacting with this whole dating/marriage issue. Marriage is all about timing. When the right time comes, both the man and the woman will meet and get married. Marriage is beautiful. Both men and women are beautiful. Let's not tarnish marriage or make it a very complex matter. You can meet with a stranger today, and get married shortly after.

Lydia wanjiru my all time favourite tiktoker..big up

Lynn and the Girls, great conversation ❤ I am a born again Christian. I got married at 31 years. I am 53. I agree with Anifa,the Lawyer. one should not move in with anyone, man or woman, before the marriage covenant. Take time to know yourself as Anifa said. Know exactly what you are looking for in a marriage partner. And yes,as the Lydia said, let your prospective partner know what your deal- breakers are , ie ,what you can't stomach, eg infidelity and domestic violence. And for marriage to make sense, the manual is the Bible, coz the manufacturer of something always knows Best how it should work...So God started marriage and He tells us how to relate in that marriage..if both husband and wife obey God, the marriage is sweet. Marriage is a beautiful thing...but it's a journey..between marriage and being single for life, I would recommend marriage, any time ,unless one has a calling from God to be celibate ❤

Lydia my girl is saying the truth she has been through alot Lynn host her alone and give her your platform to pour herself out, infact amewahi niachia her house in Nakuru and moved in with a maasai guy only after a month i sent her fare kurudi😂😂😂😂she can attest to this.but am happy to see her grown like this.wish you happiness Lydia.

Lydia is articulating issues as they are on the ground 🎉🎉🎉🎉 awesome story

Lydia Wanjiru is so real..❤ May God help and remove the confusion in single ladies life esp those in their 30s

Lydia has a good head above her shoulders. She is truly in touch with reality...Anifa has text book theory..and thats okay, but life isnt Black and white. There are plenty of grey areas and especially with relationships. Relationships/ Marriages are so personal.. there's no one size fits all. Great conversation.

The lady sitting next to Lynn is so beautiful ❤

As a single man in his 30s ,,,,,am financially well.....but ladies if you dont learn to submit whether you have money or not......... we will die all single

Just as Hanifa is saying,you can tell whether a r/ship will work as early as 1week when you are aware of yourself

Lydia you're so authentic and your vulnerability is so admirable

Lydia seems to be the youngest in the bunch so her measure of thinking has crossed eras and therefore it’s different. Should she get married I.e. if she chooses to, that man has to be intelligent, open minded and progressive. I like her personally. And all the ladies by extension. 🙏🏾

The lady on yellow top is such a vibe and real this one is for keeps

Anifah is not defending the other gender but what she is keen on is having the right foundation from the beginning which is ofcourse built on a consensus .Lydia is also so authentic she just comes out raw.😂. Personally l think they both have a role to play in this conversation.

Strong women don't have attitudes they have standards

My dear anyone in 30's watching this, please especially women, put in ur mind that in this age u should focus on having a family, success and everything u want musidanganywe

@lynn , let me tell you something waah, at 23 i had 3 children, no job with an abusive partner all in the name of family, mind you my sister at that age she had a career , lands, car and renting her own apartment doing good. she eventually got married and very happy. mimi marriage broke and am picking the pieces now at 39 to build my career and finances,, womeeeeeen, grow you the marriage life will come. Someone asked me if my sister and I are from the same mother coz they could tell a big difference..

Lydia you are so authentic. You need your own show. I love your honesty

Anifa❤️❤️❤️❤️i love how she thinks....how she answers....how she is so self aware...how she makes you feel you are responsible for your own decisions and actions❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😂😂lovely

Lydia is telling the truth, the nyash and money society narrative is very true , everything has changed unlike back in the days, things have evolved .

Interestingly once someone has made peace with staying single is when they are actually ready for marriage. Lydia you are on the correct path

Hanifa is disrupting Lyd life is dynamic and people have different experiences.Dont force people to believe your opinion. Candid conversations are great when we dont attack each other and we are open.

Each lady does offer unique energies✨ Lydia does represent progressive growth and she captures how things are on the ground. She is aware of her past mistakes and has clearly learnt her lessons👌. I feel Anifa is coming off a bit strong because she probably understands herself and achieved 'self-awareness' earlier on and insists on crucial points which people need to hear, I can feel her advocacy energy💪. Rose is so composed and mature, more of a listener and when she talks she gives solid points!💯 I am wondering what is this vocabulary of "real" man or woman?...Anyways, it's great to hear these lovely ladies and looking forward to the men panel!

Lydia 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 you've killed the show. You are true reflection of the situation on the ground. Watu hawapendi ukweli but you've nailed it

On this one I choose peace , the rain started hitting us when we said let's empower the girl child , let's see her rise , what did we do ? When we thought we were doing the most amazing thing we forgot the boychild , we left one big gap that will take years to bridge ....The boy child isn't weak ...The boy child has been forgotten and we need to refocus to remind our men they too can rise up . That is how we can have a balanced peaceful family...note : there's nothing wrong with an empowered woman it's a plus to any man ....but arrogance and disrespect is a problem in majority of set-up... where the boy child is slowly fading away .

Lydiah got me rolling on the floor😂 She is the type of"bitter truth"❤😂

This lawyer is a no , she isn’t open minded and accommodative of other people’s experiences- we learn everyday… what has she gone through?

I admire these ladies for knowing what they want…There are a lot of unhappily married people…It’s better to single and happy than married and sad..

I had my dauhghter at 21 she is now 15 and I am 36, what I have e to say is people have no business dating below the age of 25. And people just need to do what works for them, there is no manual.

Anifa is my star ⭐. She's espousing this thing that everyone would prefer sweeping under the carpet, 'THE FOUNDATION'. If the foundational fabric is wrong from the go nothing else matters, it'll all come tumbling down!!

I am turning 30 and bby let me tell you, finding a man that can deal with me is getting harder by the day. I guess being older has made me understand myself better and I know exactly what I need in a partner. If marriage doesn't happen for me at the end of the day, I am okay with that because I know that I genuinely tried.

I really love Lydia, she's very geniune.I will really love to see her again ...

Lydia was on point and very relatable. Haniva uko world gani aki coz that's not ours.

Lydia, Lydia, Lydia...you will kill me with laughter and this gal is upfront and her opinions are so practical.

Lydia Lydia Lydia should be interviewed alone,she’s real/authentic and a whole vibe !!!!

Anifa is speaking the truth, when you are self-aware you know what will work, and what will not. It is important to be selfaware.

Lydia is real ,Anifa acts perfect and judgmental

Hanifa is a lemon. Pray she matures and rewatches this video cringing as everyone else is 😢

The disconnect of dating in your 30s I feel it comes from having an imbalance. We are trying to heal or rather grow financially, emotionally, mentally, physically, and spiritually. The imbalance comes when we date people who are not at the same level as we are or are not trying to heal themselves in all these spectrums.

Women who hit the wall having come to terms with reality will definitely start selling 'intimidation card'

Those ladies laughing while Lydia said she's okay if she doesnt get married was awful. Go Go Lydia 🎉🎉

Lydia Wanjiru is just the best 💓💓 Afungue youtube channel

Sorry to say but Anifa seems to be a poor conversationist, she needs to learn how to appreciate others' point of view because it matters too even if she doesn't agree with them, that's why LNN has all 3 of the women there. No one knows every thing. Lydia is telling her story but she won't let her speak because 'everything she says is wrong' No!!! Wrong attitude.

Lydia is very honest and we appreciate , me too am on my journey to self awareness and am not apologetic to saying no to directionless relationships

The lady in dreads kept criticising everything as if she doesn't live in this kenya. Plus lydia is 30 she knows what she's doing aaah

From the comments, most ppl do not find Anifa authentic but actually she is and I side with her fully, women need to hold themselves accountable, let's admitthat we have a role toplay in the situations we find ourselves in, I felt so much self pity in the other two ladies, we don't need to work so hard to get it right, kKudos Anifa

I love how REAL Lydia is. She has real life examples which happen everyday. Somehow and Somewhat her and Anifa are not totally agreeing on some few things. But we move on regardless 🤣 An Empowered Woman Is Strong both In and Out.

Lydia is authentic and so funny I love her.

If you read the Bible on who a wife is and what love is and what submission is ,and if we get to kñow each persons role in the family we will live together in family

Just work on your feminine power. A lot of women today don't know how to be and act feminine. They have too much masculine energy. A man can easily sense a masculine energy and we don't prefer it. You can have money, successful career or leadership position and still act in your feminine power. You should make sure when a person comes across you what he sees first is your womanhood and not your career, money, power or a man in a woman's body. Feminity attracts men and it's that how nature functions for a female to attract a potential mate. If you see you rarely attract men work on your feminine power. The problem is not men, it's you!!! Start working on the way you dress (you attract certain people by the way you dress and don't confuse it with empowerment you will be confused more, men are visual), you language tone, your sense of humour and values. And women over 30 tend to be very masculine.

Kudos to Lydia For she has shared with personal experience and one is able to learn from her

Please bring the panel back especially Lydia 😂she's the real one.

Lydia wanjuru all the way ❤

There is a difference between an empowered woman and a broken woman...An empowered woman has experienced marriage and love and learnt from it and sees something positive to do with love and relationships while the broken woman is that one that has never found anything good from her relationships and marriage and she's in alot of pain trying to interfere with peoples happiness and they will always say the worst things about men..🤡... Don't forget we also have good men who listen and shout to no one😊

As a single 35 year old successful professional women, I would like to hear the male version of these conversations please. I am down to earth and because I am the boss at work, I am accused as being ‘too empowered’.

And Ma'am, if family is not a focus for you, please don't get married and don't give birth. Once you give birth priorities start changing (Reality of life)

The lady in dress has some good points and some delulu vibes and holier than though vibes. Kuna vile her energy is ot giving honestly. personally cant be friends with her type. she is entitled to her opinion though

There is a way a man is supposed to bring his masculine side and a woman brings her feminine side for both to compliment each other to have completeness. Both sides are equally important. Women should never think that their feminin contribution is weak, no it's not. In fact if they try to bring out a masculine side then the whole thing will fall apart.

This was a good conversation, Lydia is a whole vibe. I can't wait for the next Pannell with men and them

Great and timely conversation. However it was not necessary for the advocate to attack Lydia, she was speaking her truth, that is her story.. this is the reason some people shy away from sharing their story. I'm a psychologist, It's important to remember and know that we all have different life experiences, don't be so judgmental we all make mistakes. Nobody is perfect, we live and we learn. Now on marriage, i have been married for 18 years, got married in my early twenties, marriage works if the two people in each work as a team, nurture their friendship and commit to stay together no matter the circumstances. Self awareness is very key in this life, but we respect that we all have a different purpose in life, marriage and kids are not what define you as a person

When it comes to friendship, they’re friends who are there for a season, some for a reason and others who are rooted… distinguish them and don’t confuse them.

@lynn i agree with these ladies. My hubby is my number one support system. He pushes me to heights i didnt know i can go to. He believes in me in ways i cant even imagine....