Why Can't I DIVE with my DIVE WATCH?

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Wonders of Watchdom

Wonders of Watchdom

Ай бұрын

100 meters water resistance isn't enough. What makes a dive watch a diver? TimeKeeper, Ultimate Watch Videos
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@gideonk123
@gideonk123 Ай бұрын
For everyone leaving a good dive watch on the shore (or in the drawer) and taking only the dive computer: have mercy on the watch! If you listen carefully you’ll hear your dive watch crying, accompanied with muttering: “but I’ve been trained to dive right from my mechanical birth, why isn’t s/he taking me?!?” 😢 Seriously now, a good dive watch can simply be used as backup to the computer, allowing you “at a glance” to see when to start ascending, assuming you adjust the “triangle” to the planned bottom-time, rather than to the start of the dive.
@user-ky9dd9oj7r
@user-ky9dd9oj7r Ай бұрын
mechanics suck
@suikakujun
@suikakujun Ай бұрын
I agree witrh you! Computer on one wrist, watch on the other.
@gideonk123
@gideonk123 Ай бұрын
@@user-ky9dd9oj7r Some famous lines of dive watches are quartz, for example the Citizen Promaster Dive based on Eco-Drive is solar powered quartz (solar, so no battery change for a long long time)
@looseunit1615
@looseunit1615 Ай бұрын
Dive watches just look better than a dive computer.
@timothyuy2052
@timothyuy2052 Ай бұрын
I've got terrible luck with dive comps, suunto zoop and mares puck failed on me mid dive (suunto started reading 10m deeper than actual depth, and the puck gave me the boot error screen) So I always have my turtle on my wrist as backup - redundancies are important! as well as knowing your dive plan in case your hardware decides to brick on you
@Kburn1985
@Kburn1985 29 күн бұрын
Met a guy with a rolex submariner in komodo about a decade back. At the safety stop, he was messing with buoyancy and he got the watch caught in his BCD and it subsequently floated down. He tried going after it, but DM caught him and checked his psi, it was low enough that he had to hang on to him and stop him from diving down to grab it. They got into a punch up on the boat. That was our 3rd dive, and there were no spare tanks to make a rescue search. Went back out the next day to search for it at first light, but no luck. Guy was inconsolable, plus was banned from any further dives due to him attacking the DM. Don't dive with your luxury dive watches friends.
@syeikhsyamil6761
@syeikhsyamil6761 28 күн бұрын
I guess those tugging test that is part of iso serve actual purpose, which rolex think is below them
@folksurvival
@folksurvival 27 күн бұрын
Maybe he learned to take a Casio Duro next time.
@knutjunker2019
@knutjunker2019 Ай бұрын
I'm not a diver, but I wear my Citizen Promasters (auto and Eco-Drive) almost every day, for gardening, swimming, everything, because I don't feel like worrying about my watch. It does everything and is reliable. That's what I expect from my divers.
@knutjunker2019
@knutjunker2019 Ай бұрын
… and my g-Shocks too :-)
@m39fan
@m39fan Ай бұрын
You're good to go! My wife and I regularly dive (we're certified) with the Eco-Drive versions and they do well!
@servantofallah9425
@servantofallah9425 10 күн бұрын
Orient star diver. Check its lume. ​@@m39fan
@mountainhobo
@mountainhobo Ай бұрын
9:54 "Do not pour running water directly from the faucet" - Every time after swimming in salt water in my Casio AE1500WH I thoroughly rinse it under tap water to remove salt water. Been running perfectly for years now.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Ай бұрын
That was a warning from the Seiko 5 manual with a push-pull crown. Your Casio doesn’t have one.
@mountainhobo
@mountainhobo Ай бұрын
@@WondersofWatchdom Thanks for the clarification.
@kobusvanrensburg4092
@kobusvanrensburg4092 Ай бұрын
I started working as a commercial diver in early '99. I've only ever used a watch as a backup, and as a actual piece of equipment I've always chosen ISO rated watches - I did buy a Sub, a Sinn, a Rado Captain Cook, a Squale etc - however my working watches were (I rarely dive for work now) always ISO rated. My 2c - avoid the hype. Citizen and Seiko's ISO rated divers are more than you will ever need.
@harkonen1000000
@harkonen1000000 Ай бұрын
Just a note that Sinn follows German DIN standards which are equivalent to ISO rating for divers.
@psdelport8893
@psdelport8893 Ай бұрын
Do you recommend quartz or mechanical?
@kobusvanrensburg4092
@kobusvanrensburg4092 Ай бұрын
@@psdelport8893 Quartz for work, Auto for play.
@kms08711
@kms08711 Ай бұрын
​@@psdelport8893absolutely quartz lol 😂
@spyketan72
@spyketan72 Ай бұрын
Comm divers don’t wear watches during dives. Time keeping is the dive supervisor’s responsibility
@44Magpie
@44Magpie Ай бұрын
99% of people who purchase dive watches are not certified divers and will take them off when they wash their hands. That being said, no one today who is a certified diver depends solely upon a dive watch and very few people even wear them diving.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Ай бұрын
I remember when Timex said that while their Ironman Watch purchasers may enjoy biking, swimming or cycling, almost none of them have done a triathlon. Nonetheless, people appreciate a tough, durable watch. And many divers have stated that they still wear their dive watches as a backup.
@anthonykent00
@anthonykent00 Ай бұрын
I wear my gshock on every dive. Not a dive watch, but I wear it.
@Yorkshiremadmick
@Yorkshiremadmick Ай бұрын
I rarely take my watch off, shower in it, wash the dishes. Swim in it. Wash the cars. This applies to my Rolex, Seiko’s and Tudors. If they can’t hack it they ain’t worth having.
@zephyr2002
@zephyr2002 Ай бұрын
I don't wanna get soap in my nice watches, but I would swim with them. I guess it's all about the style.
@kookvision9295
@kookvision9295 Ай бұрын
​@@Yorkshiremadmick good news a 10 euro Casio can handle all of this
@rolandlickert2904
@rolandlickert2904 Ай бұрын
I was a Dive instructor with over 1200 dives in my free time. I use a Seiko and Citizen Dive Watch without any problems. In my time in the 80ths they had only pro-dive watches later, they became mainstream.
@mytuberforyou
@mytuberforyou Ай бұрын
Goes back to at least the 60's for Seiko. Not sure about Citizen. The first Citizen I bought for diving was the one with air integration that they discontinued, it had a sender that screwed into the first stage (and broke twice, that's another story)
@ragetobe
@ragetobe Ай бұрын
Thank you! I’m a diving instructor for many many years and I tell people you can’t dive with a certain watch and they argue about WR. I do use a dive watch as my second device and have had some fail on me. I learned the hard way that 200 WR means nothing. In my early life I was a saturation diver, as I moved away from that job due to having a family I turned to being an instructor of recreational diving, I like the simplicity of using a watch to dive with but you have to have the right watch. I wear a sub, but there are plenty of nice watches out there that qualify as a diving watch, just do your research. P.s. some watches do not have “divers 300m” on them but are still divers watch’s such as the sub.
@prantikchakraborty8052
@prantikchakraborty8052 Ай бұрын
Sub? Rolex Submariner?
@Mark-sd7fc
@Mark-sd7fc Ай бұрын
Any time anyone sees a Rolex they wonder if it’s real LOL
@ragetobe
@ragetobe Ай бұрын
@@Mark-sd7fc You are wrong, only small-minded people think that most people couldn't give a shit.
@EmeraldHill-vo1cs
@EmeraldHill-vo1cs Ай бұрын
@@prantikchakraborty8052 No the vostock submarine. :}
@tompantle3884
@tompantle3884 Ай бұрын
My first dive watch was a $45 Casio Duro(the "Marlin") and I wore it on over 800 dives. Mostly as a backup to the computer, or simply force of habit. I still have it but it's long since been retired. It has withstood a horrendous beating and it shows. I have an Omega Seamaster as well, but it's far too pretty(and expensive) to subject to that kind of torture. My current active diver is a Citizen Promaster but it's getting older every year and I'll soon be looking for a replacement for it. p.s. at 3:45 that's a GMT bezel, which is bi-directional, and serves a completely different function.
@Saelestria-jd3uq
@Saelestria-jd3uq 25 күн бұрын
Took my Casio Duro for a swim during a visit to a swimming pool. The Duro is a thing of beauty. I'm wearing it right now as I type this.
@valengreymoon5623
@valengreymoon5623 Ай бұрын
I have a few ISO watches, but when I hit the water, I will use either a Citizen ProMaster EcoDrive ($180), or a Casio Duro ($50). There's no way I'd risk taking a multi-thousand dollar watch into an environment where anything can happen, and a breakage or a loss, could be a huge hit to the wallet.
@e28forever30
@e28forever30 Ай бұрын
You are aware that the Promaster is ISO rated?
@vedrangoreta5955
@vedrangoreta5955 Ай бұрын
You can take citizen challenge NY0129 that is ISO and its cheap
@kempana9414
@kempana9414 Ай бұрын
I took my casio duro for a dive in Guam with no issues. I would never take my Breitling Superocean to do the same thing.
@valengreymoon5623
@valengreymoon5623 Ай бұрын
Absolutely a smart move.
@valengreymoon5623
@valengreymoon5623 Ай бұрын
Absolutely a smart move. Though I have to wonder how many of those insanely-priced Swiss dive watches are actually ISO compliant.
@Lancer104
@Lancer104 28 күн бұрын
I am using $70 Vostok Amphibia for snorkeling from the year 2016. Couldn't care for the "certification" less. It is perfect diver watch.
@raymondlenaghan3320
@raymondlenaghan3320 Ай бұрын
Thanks for that thorough explanation. I’d no idea so much involved.
@jasongennero2080
@jasongennero2080 Ай бұрын
What’s funny odd that the Vostok he showed is probably the most water resistant and best for salt water scuba diving yet it’s the most affordable.lol
@EmeraldHill-vo1cs
@EmeraldHill-vo1cs Ай бұрын
Ive got the cheaper komandirskie and it can go just about anywhere,cept diving of course.
@mytuberforyou
@mytuberforyou Ай бұрын
@@EmeraldHill-vo1cs I have one, threw it on the timegrapher and it was running 0s/d, at least in two positions, problem is the bracelet is total crap. Put it on a NATO with heavy spring bars and it'll treat you right, but not me I hate acrylic glass.
@morpheus3190
@morpheus3190 Ай бұрын
Seriously, I had a Vostok Amphibia. It would fog up in the shower. lol. Sent it back for another one it also fogged up a lot. Even when going from Air conditioned house to outdoors.
@esrvdb88
@esrvdb88 29 күн бұрын
Don’t wear any watch in the shower, that will kill any well sealed watch eventually if not immediately.
@urrra
@urrra 19 күн бұрын
I have a Vostok Komandirskie which I used daily for 1.5 years can say it's reliable and well built but the glass is not scartch resistant as I would expect.
@bidipbo
@bidipbo Ай бұрын
The timing bezel feature isn't for timing the dive - although it can. It is for timing the duration - at depth - for the purpose of informing the diver to resurface before the necessity to decompress. Hence the reason Doxa, for example, provides the additional track of numerals on their bezels. That is one of the most common misperceptions of the rotating bezel's purpose.
@williamthomas6106
@williamthomas6106 Ай бұрын
Exactly. The bezel is to show when your dive expires, and time your subsequent ascent. When the dive bezel was first invented, dive times were strictly regulated by decompression tables. So before you started a dive, you knew exactly how long the dive was going to be before you even hit the water. When you descended you set your Bezel to 60-Divetime. (Example: For a 40 minute dive, you line up the minute hand to 60-40=20.) When your minute hand hits the 0 marker, that's when your bottom time is up. This is why the lume pip and big triangle is at the zero. When your minute hand lines up with the zero mark, you begin your controlled ascent and decompression/safety stops. That's why the first 10 to 15 minutes of some bezels are marked every minute where the rest of the watch isn't. You're not worried about elapsed dive time, you want to know when to start your ascent, and you want to control how many feet per minute, and how long your safety/decompression stop should be.
@mytuberforyou
@mytuberforyou Ай бұрын
Well, that depends on how you use the watch, but yes, RBT (remaining bottom time- the phrase you were describing) is the most common inital use of the watch. And then timing hangs, or timing deco stops, and in some cases timing intervals when running stage bottles. And it's amazing how many watch manufacturers and youtube "watch experts" don't know this.
@B00F13
@B00F13 Ай бұрын
When in doubt, a G-Shock is your best friend.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Ай бұрын
Actually Casio is wishy-washy about that. They say that as “a general rule, all G-SHOCK watches can be safely used for swimming, snorkelling, and other water activities at a depth of up to 200 meters.” But then they say, “It's important to note that G-SHOCK watches are not designed for deep-sea diving and should not be used for activities such as scuba diving or free diving. The Master of G FROGMAN is a specialized diving watch designed specifically for scuba diving, and it is the most water-resistant model in the G-Shock line-up, ISO diver standard certified for water resistance up to 200-meter, including button operability underwater, making it the perfect companion for any diver.” So you can dive with any G-shock, and it’s probably fine, but they aren’t taking responsibility if you do.
@Yorkshiremadmick
@Yorkshiremadmick Ай бұрын
@@WondersofWatchdom It’s for that reason I don’t own a g shock but rather a variety of more than capable Seiko and a Vostok g shock killers as batteries and electronics not required.
@mf6532
@mf6532 Ай бұрын
Yes, actually used by Navy SEAL's.
@cmdrflint9115
@cmdrflint9115 Ай бұрын
Gshock are barely rainproof these days
@lansiman
@lansiman Ай бұрын
@@cmdrflint9115i'm wore my g shock to swim 3 time a week and also to fishing in saltwater, i never had water damage on any of my gshock, in fact my first gshock from 20 years ago still alive today with battery change
@phillipbailey70
@phillipbailey70 Ай бұрын
Fascinating - thank you (and I now have yet another way to try to organise my collection!!)
@Leo-Crespi
@Leo-Crespi Ай бұрын
Very useful information and well explained. Thank you, your videos never disappoint.
@masudaharris6435
@masudaharris6435 Ай бұрын
Thank you for clarifying. I haven't gone into the ocean since watching Jaws but it's good to know. My watches are mollycoddled like a Beverly Hills Pomeranian-- they are kept in their boxes and handled with kid gloves. A mallet doesn't go within 50 miles of them.
@jeebusmcfries8114
@jeebusmcfries8114 Ай бұрын
thanks, you've rekindled my love for my Citizen Promaster auto.
@davidjaffa123
@davidjaffa123 Ай бұрын
Divers haven't used watches for 20 years. They use a dive computer. Why isn't anyone talking about this?
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Ай бұрын
We are. I mentioned it in my last video about the Seiko Turtle dive watch, and several people have mentioned it in the comments before you. Yet, people have also said they still like diving with a watch, either as a backup or for shallow dives or recreational. Or they just like having a durable watch.
@cmdrflint9115
@cmdrflint9115 Ай бұрын
I’ve been diving since the mid 90s, and whether it’s just for nostalgia reasons or use as an actual backup, I always have my Doxa (mechanical dive watch) with me in addition to a modern dive computer.
@DW94576
@DW94576 Ай бұрын
@@cmdrflint9115same
@folksurvival
@folksurvival 27 күн бұрын
"Why isn't anyone talking about this?" What do you mean? People are talking about it all the time. People talk about it so often that it has become boring.
@truthserum9157
@truthserum9157 Ай бұрын
Why do i have a diver, i get asked this from time to time specially because we’re 1000 miles from any ocean, i tell them I use it for timing my burritos in the microwave, checking on the parking meter and occasionally sneaking into my neighbors swimming pool when they’re not home and I forget to remove my divers watch.
@GermanoHeitor
@GermanoHeitor 15 күн бұрын
You’re the best watch channel! Thank you for the explanation.
@IlyaSolodky
@IlyaSolodky Ай бұрын
Extremely informative video! Well done! Than you
@jouwenlee7829
@jouwenlee7829 Ай бұрын
Appreciate taking the effort to explain them. Being a lazy KZfaq subscriber that I am, may ask for your clarification (You can also ignore mine for being lazy to look for it elsewhere 😆) 1. I came across message that not all watches need to be tested individually to be certified? Only randomly or some portion of the production unit will be tested? 2. When the watch is certified and it stated 200m water resistance, it means it must pass 300m static water pressure test, which is 50% more than the WR declaration on the watch? Thank you!
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Ай бұрын
Good questions! Every watch is fully tested. According to ISO, it’s always 125% of the stated rating. So, a 200M water resistance watch will be tested to 250M. They give that specific example. Another part of the pressure test I didn’t mention is that during the test, the crown or buttons are pressed sideways with a force of 5 newtons to ensure they don’t bend, break off or leak.
@JudoP_slinging
@JudoP_slinging Ай бұрын
I believe for 'water resistant' rating a only sample of watches are tested, I've searched for more information on this (sample size etc. but can't find it). For ISO6425 (the 'diver's' rating) every single watch is tested. You can read the specs and testing yourself.
@dissident_mantis7
@dissident_mantis7 Ай бұрын
I dive with all of my watches pretty frequently and most are not ISO certified. My Sinn U50, Omega Seamaster 300 and CWC are all more than capable, despite not meeting some of the requirements. Funny enough I have had a ISO diver bracelet fail during a dive and it was a Seiko Tuna. Thankfully I was at the bottom anyway and felt it as soon as it detached from my wrist.
@brianfuller757
@brianfuller757 Ай бұрын
Thank you for a great video.
@gopherproxy
@gopherproxy Ай бұрын
Very informative 👌! Thanks!
@DanielNoblett1111
@DanielNoblett1111 Ай бұрын
great video that fully explains what makes a divers watch a diver. My everyday watch is the Orient Triton/Neptune Divers shown near the end of the video, it takes a lot of punishment and just doesn't show it, a true tool watch.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Ай бұрын
Beautiful watch. Nice choice!
@TobyH.
@TobyH. 15 күн бұрын
My cheapo Invicta ProDiver ($59.95 when I bought it years ago on Amazon) is a great dive watch :D I'm not afraid to take it in the water, that's for sure.
@PaulCantSleep
@PaulCantSleep Ай бұрын
always love your videos, the effort you put into your content is incredibly impressive and inspiring
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Ай бұрын
Thank you! I try to be more detailed than the other guys.
@RyAnLeeKW
@RyAnLeeKW Ай бұрын
Welcome back boss!
@dmks2146
@dmks2146 Ай бұрын
Fine sand and waves will turn a lot of dive watches into coffee grinders for a week. I learned that the hard way.
@ralphferrara5152
@ralphferrara5152 Ай бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks
@lowersaxon
@lowersaxon Ай бұрын
Thanks for the instructive video. Although I was aware of nearly everything you said, I enjoyed the vid nevertheless.
@andretmadrid
@andretmadrid Ай бұрын
Excellent class! 🌟
@Macm73
@Macm73 Ай бұрын
Seiko turtle had got to be one of the greatest bang for your buck watches ever. Looks great and does exactly what it says on the tin.
@DavidLee-yu7yz
@DavidLee-yu7yz Ай бұрын
I love my Samurai but I agree both these models are Good, the Turtle is always £25 cheaper for a comparable model Sammy and I must bit the bullet one day and get the Turtle model, to see how it wears and the cushion case would age more gracefully I would have thought with it's provenance and dings along the way.
@rjg02005
@rjg02005 Ай бұрын
Very informative video! I love my King Turtle (though the cyclops on my model is unnecessary). Will have to test it in a hot tub in the near future.
@scootermann83
@scootermann83 Ай бұрын
"...over 100 meters or more..." that's a great clarification lmao 🤣
@LeeePowers
@LeeePowers Ай бұрын
Casi Frogman has an interesting way around the timing bezel. A dive mode where both hands go to12,and the minutes elapsed past 12 is your dive time,with a subdial changing into your clock. Pretty neat.
@Olddirtytiger
@Olddirtytiger Ай бұрын
Good video my man 🙌 I'll use one of my Citizen Promasters if i ever leave the house 😋
@kellingtonlink956
@kellingtonlink956 Ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks.
@kellingtonlink956
@kellingtonlink956 Ай бұрын
A Sinn U50 is on my wish/lottery win list. … I do a serious amount of dishes!
@NaNByZero
@NaNByZero Ай бұрын
Good video! I am not a diver but I like my Citizen diver watch (ISO certified). I also have a Vostok Amphibia. Not perfect but cool. 🕐⚙️🍸🙃
@wizwoz1962
@wizwoz1962 Ай бұрын
Very informative video different from the norm
@sathishrao7926
@sathishrao7926 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this great information ! I bought a Duro for all the craze around it (and I’m a Casio fanboy) and I’m not planning to use it for diving anyway 😄
@DavidLee-yu7yz
@DavidLee-yu7yz Ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with a Duro but unfortunately I am sensitive to the battery and my arm aches, other than that when I did wear it I had real watch people acknowledge it when in company
@cle_roknn3742
@cle_roknn3742 Ай бұрын
Using a GMT bezel when explaining a dive time bezel.🤦‍♂️ I’m being overly critical, overall this was a very good explanation.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Ай бұрын
Someone else mentioned that. I’m confident that my viewers can figure out 5 minute intervals, even on a GMT bezel, but you’re correct - a regular bezel would have been more straightforward. Glad that you enjoyed the video!
@poeterritory
@poeterritory Ай бұрын
Thanks for your... deep dive... on this topic.
@b.santos8804
@b.santos8804 Ай бұрын
Thanks, Caruso! 😎
@TerminusVox
@TerminusVox Ай бұрын
Nice summary of the standards and the markings that differentiate those standards! Your explanation of the reason for the one-way rotating bezel was seemingly a little contradictory and I think it could be stated more clearly. All products are a compromise between features and cost. I understand that the Chinese watches I favor are not true "diver's" watches because it is much more likely that my budget will be limited than I will have money to blow on dive trips and true Diver's Watches.
@overbuiltlimited
@overbuiltlimited Ай бұрын
In the ninties I worked as a member of a NSW team. Funnily enough, we were issued a Timex Ironman for diving (and everything else). I think they were $45. I drooled over Subs, but the digital features of the Ironman were actually better for our use case.
@dand2334
@dand2334 Ай бұрын
Enjoy your travels, the pool in your open clip looks familiar…Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit Hotel Bangkok. Very nice!
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Ай бұрын
Exactly right! Great hotel, loved it.
@mytuberforyou
@mytuberforyou Ай бұрын
4:00 that's not a dive bezel, it's a GMT. And it's worth pointing out ND limits for sport divers is just over 50M. And thermal shock test isn't relevant if you are diving in the caribbean- nor will a corrosion test be a big deal, open circuit dives are generally limited to around 90 minutes max and then your watch is going in the rinse tank- you can get a lot of dives in before the equivant of 80 hours, and I have never had anything corrode except the springs in spring bars. I have been sport diving with most of the dive watches I own- from a Chris Ward Makaira Pro to a Tissot - BTW that Vostok is a super compressor case, it can handle something like 800M, there is a hydro test of one under insane pressure here on KZfaq somewhere. Unless you are diving for COMEX, certification means very little. About the only watches you show that I wouldnt dive with are the Casio (buttons will push in, LCD can blank out) and the Invicta (quality concerns). People that wear around Submariners but have never even been diving in a resort course or anything deeper than a swimming pool are way overpaying for what they need in terms of capability.
@X85283
@X85283 Ай бұрын
Thermal shock is absolutely relevant. They aren't testing at those temps because they think you will be diving in very cold water necessarily, but there is still a huge temperature swing between even "warm" ocean water and "I set my watch on my chair in the sun for a few hours" kind of thing.
@danewood2309
@danewood2309 Ай бұрын
Im sorry , but you are wrong .The first fully waterproof watch with a screw down back and bezel fitted with gaskets and a screw down crown with a gasket seal was commissioned by and designed for the Royal Navy for use on submarines in 1915 , it was made by the Swiss watch company Tavannes ,and was sold through Brook & Son Jewellers of Edinburgh , it was a black faced watch with a seconds dial at the '6' position and was called the 'Submarine".
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Ай бұрын
That’s why I said first dive watch that was tested like modern testing methods (and was commercially available). I didn’t want to get into the whole “who did it first” debate. Many insist that was Waltham, by the way.
@yakumotatsuro4886
@yakumotatsuro4886 Ай бұрын
I've bought a Seiko PADI and used it while scuba diving many times
@u-8743
@u-8743 Ай бұрын
Vostok is awesome. I saw some channel that tested actual water resistance and it went to something ridiculous like 800 meters before it popped. To think it is "just" Soviet tech and costs like 70 bucks is quite a thought. Love mine.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Ай бұрын
Totally agree. It’s been used for submarine rescue, and gone to space. I made a video about the unique engineering.
@JdhMac
@JdhMac Ай бұрын
How does my Orient Mako 2 stack up? (I don’t even swim often.)
@vg9073
@vg9073 Ай бұрын
Swum in the sea daily to temps of 3C for 3 years with a casio f91. Unbelievably, it still works perfectly. Cost £10. Good watch if your budget is lower and it looks retro cool if you like that.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Ай бұрын
The fact that it’s inexpensive, and the design has been unchanged for so long, makes it even better IMHO.
@tikishark1
@tikishark1 Ай бұрын
I once brought my Invicta watch near a picture of a glass of water. It flooded immediately 😂
@youtubename3838
@youtubename3838 29 күн бұрын
Everyone always says my use of a DeepSea is overkill for what I do with it (Spearfishing, Jetskiing, Surfing, Cliffdiving) because i’m so close to the surface. Then i remind them of the rapid pressure changes involved with those sports. I feel like wearing something less capable is just asking for trouble.
@Strideo1
@Strideo1 Ай бұрын
Nice video. 😎
@sbsb4995
@sbsb4995 Ай бұрын
Great video
@Zotrax1946
@Zotrax1946 Ай бұрын
I work in water, so cheers for that topic 👌🏻👍🏻
@minorityofone1510
@minorityofone1510 Ай бұрын
Am a diver who dives with 2 computers but i also wear one of my dive watches and also take an analog depth guage as backups
@ImAlsoMerobiba
@ImAlsoMerobiba 21 күн бұрын
10:08 this is a common misconception. There is no ISO certification for 6425. ISO does not provide certification for any of their standards. ISO certification can be provided by independent certification body, but no one certifies 6425. We can only assume companies are compliant if they're marking their watches as "driver's". If anyone is skeptical, just email the manufacturer and ask them for a copy of their ISO 6425 accreditation. I've done this years ago and not a single company had any.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom 21 күн бұрын
“The watch is ISO 6425 certified” refers to the fact that the watch passed the International Organization for Standardization tests, completed by a laboratory. The certification is issued by a testing lab. The manufacturer will never be able to provide a copy of their ISO 6425 certification because the factory doesn’t pass a diving test! There are ISO certifications that factories can obtain for reliable manufacturing techniques and processes, such as ISO 9001.
@Ferien7
@Ferien7 29 күн бұрын
4:05 - 4:12 You’ve got it backwards. If bumped or moved, you would read a shorter dive time, not a longer one, prompting you to surface sooner for safety purposes
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom 29 күн бұрын
The bezel can only be bumped to the left (counterclockwise). The result of that is a longer elapsed time showing.
@jonlloyd7772
@jonlloyd7772 Ай бұрын
Great video. Not sure why you were using a watch with a 24 hour bezel to illustrate how an elapsed time bezel works though. I have not dived for a few years, but i used to wear a Seiko Turtle quite similar to that one (gilt hands, indices and bezel markings).
@nikiforoschlivas3703
@nikiforoschlivas3703 Ай бұрын
Can I take my kamasu watch snorkelling wothout risking rust? I have put the watch in salt water before but i made sure as soon as I got back home, to soak the watch in bottled water in order to dissolved any salts left on the watch. I had no vissible issue with rush but i know the watch is not ISO certified. Can you give me some info regarding using the watch or not for snorkelling?
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Ай бұрын
I can confirm that Orient uses marine grade stainless steel. When I was researching my Ray II video, I asked them.
@nikiforoschlivas3703
@nikiforoschlivas3703 Ай бұрын
@@WondersofWatchdom Good know. I will continue using the watch when I'll go snorkeling this summer. You had me worried there for a moment. Great stuff btw.
@jishimoari
@jishimoari Ай бұрын
I have Casio W168 and it is the perfect watch for me. Swimming and snorkling for few hours or anything like that was never a problem.
@kms08711
@kms08711 Ай бұрын
It's because it's a casio lol If casio says 30m wr it means 100m wr literally under water I can't say the same thing for other brands
@MrDucatiti
@MrDucatiti Ай бұрын
Modern GMT Master II considered a dive watch, or certified? I assume the sub is?
@MuhammadImran93
@MuhammadImran93 Ай бұрын
I like and own dive watch bcuz the versatility it possesses; formal, casual, sport, etc.
@catchbay
@catchbay Ай бұрын
Hobby divers no longer use traditional diving watches. I have never ever seen anyone using those but me ... For some reason I still have mine on my wrist (a cheap Citizen automatic watch) and I turn the bezel to show the time I jumped into the water. The watch has been on my wrist over 100 feet. I don't think we'll ever go 100 meters deep. Actually, I use the watch more to measure parking time... Sometimes I have tried to calculate the used diving time with the help of a watch, but when diving you have to take several things into account, so a diving watch is useless and only brings problems. The dive computer shows everything essential on one screen, and when you look at it, you immediately see what is important.
@craig2100
@craig2100 Ай бұрын
Same here...so tired of the hype. Divers use dive computers.but these are still fun to wear.
@gideonk123
@gideonk123 Ай бұрын
Since you already own a dive watch, surely there’s no harm in using it as a backup to the computer during the dive. By the way, you can set the “triangle” to the *end* of the planned bottom-time (rather than the beginning of the dive), to allow you very quick “at a glance” indication that you must begin to ascend.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Ай бұрын
On my last video (Seiko Turtle review) I mentioned that most divers use dive computers instead of watches these days, so I didn’t repeat it this video. But of course you’re correct. Nonetheless, I love having super-tough mechanical watches. Glad to hear you still use yours during your dives! Several others have said the same.
@gideonk123
@gideonk123 Ай бұрын
@@WondersofWatchdom I’ll watch your Seiko Turtle video later. Cool
@terryboyle
@terryboyle Ай бұрын
thank you
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Ай бұрын
You're welcome
@squarestanley
@squarestanley Ай бұрын
I’m confused as to why you would show a GMT bezel when talking about the details of a dive bezel.
@VENATOR9
@VENATOR9 Ай бұрын
You hinted china watches are from lower grade stainless steel and corrode in salt water. Does that mean Invicta corrodes? I can't find any info on them
@StereotypedMe_
@StereotypedMe_ Ай бұрын
I use my Nixon collection to do swimming, adventures & surfing.. they are superb for it.. and use my other “branded” watches just for normal activity 😅😂
@murraymclean9072
@murraymclean9072 28 күн бұрын
Worn at citizen eco dive for years. Before that citizen promaster..never had a drama..never been past 12/15 metres.
@fredericktennant9151
@fredericktennant9151 Ай бұрын
Brilliant video I don't dive but I love dive watches as for Chinees knock off I picked up the Cronos simply because its a Deep Sea Knock off and it was on the Hydraulic press channel going down to its maximum without issue. A lot of people shame these watches as cheap knock offs but their build quality on the better brands will shame some of these so called quality Swiss makes.
@DavidLee-yu7yz
@DavidLee-yu7yz Ай бұрын
The Cronos watches are the top of the tree for quality and proper watch brand and cannot be compared to the cheaper chinese poor quality dross, Addie dive are good for the price I have been told by friends too and I would not go as far as better than swiss brands but pretty close too, for the said Swiss brands, at least in the case of Cronos and the top end.
@edwardpetersii6276
@edwardpetersii6276 Ай бұрын
One thing you forgot to mention is that Omega uses Metas and now, so does Tudor! Therefore, along with its own testing methods, this is a ‘second’ certification, certifying the watches reliability, durability, waterproofness and ‘accuracy’ during these testing methods. I can assure you that Omega’s ‘twice’ tested certifications are ‘more’ than what ISO requires. I had to point that out because you said that Omega and Rolex are so well made, it’s well known and they don’t bother with ISO testing. It’s misleading to people watching this video who may not know! Rolex and Omega go ‘way’ beyond ISO testing. Diving is in their heritage, they take great pride in their divers watches and these watches are their bread-and-butter! Also, as you pointed out, Omega was the ‘first’ commercially available ‘dive’ watch that could be used for saturation diving and maintain the watches functionalities accurately and durably! That was 1929. Most Rolex enthusiasts are mistaken that Rolex invented the dive watch! Hans Wilsdorf, founder of Rolex, purchased ‘oyster’ technology from two inventors in I believe, 1926. It was the first waterproof watch but was only worn around an English swimmers neck as she swam the English Channel. It was not ‘submerged!’ In 1929 as I mentioned, Omega ‘invented’ the ‘first’ ‘fully’ submersible saturation watch! Period! As you pointed out, there is ‘water-resistant’ and ‘saturation’ watches! There is a difference and people should know! Your video was very good and informative. I just wanted to add this.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Ай бұрын
Excellent point, thank you for mentioning it. I briefly covered METAS testing in my Omega Seamaster video but not to the same level of detail.
@farts184
@farts184 Ай бұрын
Metas follows ISO standard 2281 for water resistance, not 6425. Do NOT dive with a non-ISO 6425 watch. Ideally, for the safest experience, use a dive computer, but an ISO 2281 watch is absolutely NOT guaranteed to function at the rated depth.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Ай бұрын
Nonsense. METAS is its own testing system. Each Omega water resistance test includes testing the watch at 125% of stated depth, being taken out of the water and heated to 40C, and then a drop of cold water put on the glass to test for condensation. They’re absolutely dive-worthy.
@syeikhsyamil6761
@syeikhsyamil6761 28 күн бұрын
My iso dive watch will come with me on diving trips, but it will stay in my hotels drawer 😂 I only ever wore dive computer on my dives which has suffered a lot of dings and scratches, precisely the reason im not wearing my beloved dive watches.
@abateditheleme9702
@abateditheleme9702 Ай бұрын
Sometimes I dive in the sea even with an Hamilton Khaki field I've since I was a child, it always managed to reach 15 meters with no problem. To say nothing about eterna 200m cosc or stuff like that. You can dive, you must, If you do not, please by different watches :)
@luchadorito
@luchadorito Ай бұрын
I have sort of given up on getting a Seiko Turtle because I struggle to justify the price even though I do need some of the toughness for my job which has some lung diving and a lot of manual work. I even found a nice Vostok Amphibia I could settle for. But damn the Turtle is a good looking watch….
@KRW628
@KRW628 Ай бұрын
All of my watches have "DIVERS 200m" on them. Not only do I not dive, but I really don't like them getting wet when it rains.
@e28forever30
@e28forever30 Ай бұрын
Have a little faith.
@user-zq9hc9ro1y
@user-zq9hc9ro1y Ай бұрын
Best watchtuber out there
@DavidLee-yu7yz
@DavidLee-yu7yz Ай бұрын
This guy good but there are better channels, this is not too denigrate this guy but a very brought statement there.
@jrgdrumsandwatches
@jrgdrumsandwatches Ай бұрын
I go with Certina for affordable ISO6425 certified divers. Great history, rock solid build quality, anti-magnetic movements, can't go wrong with them. 🐢✌️
@kaiwilliams141
@kaiwilliams141 Ай бұрын
Big point here as stated in the video is you can take whatever you want diving. Only a certfied Diver's watch should be 100% expected to survive (as long as all gaskets and seals are up to date). All others aren't guaranteed by the company and they don't want a lawsuit saying their watch broke while diving so they just don't recommend it.
@CannibalChuck
@CannibalChuck Ай бұрын
I still love my Vostok watches. Campy cheep fun and virtually bomb proof.
@ELMARIACHI13
@ELMARIACHI13 Ай бұрын
Just wanted to know is the Rolex Deep Sea Challenge diver’s watch rated 12,800ft(3900m) WR that James Cameron used during his Mariana Trench dive a true diver’s watch?
@user-ky9dd9oj7r
@user-ky9dd9oj7r 23 күн бұрын
Good point. I would also like to finally see someone try it out. Mariana Trench, all the way to the bottom please.
@technogong
@technogong Ай бұрын
I want loom so I can read the time when I wake up in the night. I want a rotating bezel to time my chips in the oven... I dont want to go diving!!!
@e28forever30
@e28forever30 Ай бұрын
lume
@goergetech
@goergetech Ай бұрын
10:42 have a vostock, it took water had to repair it twice
@ELMARIACHI13
@ELMARIACHI13 Ай бұрын
Does this count for the Apple Watch Ultra 2? Watch works perfectly underwater,despite the 100M WR rating.
@WondersofWatchdom
@WondersofWatchdom Ай бұрын
From Apple support website: “Apple Watch Ultra should be used only by trained divers for recreational dives of 130 feet (40 meters) or less.” Most people don’t dive deeper than that anyway.
@Potatowarrior89
@Potatowarrior89 Ай бұрын
Watch : I am not a dive watch but I identified as one 😂
@Tholopotami
@Tholopotami Ай бұрын
I dove with my omega seamaster down to 120feet, no issues ;-)
@rb89509
@rb89509 Ай бұрын
You'll never catch me diving the Challenger Deep without my Invicta Subaqua Noma V!
@richardtwyning
@richardtwyning Ай бұрын
WR100 doesn't necessarily mean it will withstand 100 meters as not all WR watches are tested. They test a certain percentage in a batch. "Diver's" means EVERY watch has been tested individually
@Chermeay
@Chermeay Ай бұрын
Great video as always
@danielfrancis3660
@danielfrancis3660 Ай бұрын
In 2024 if you do any serious diving then you would use a dive computer. If you feel you need a backup then use another dive computer. Dive watches I would suggest are based on designs from the 50s 60s and 70s and are rarely used for actual diving if at all. Dive watch certification is not a legal requirement!
@user-wj3ei4yr3x
@user-wj3ei4yr3x 25 күн бұрын
A lot of drivers watches are only Diver style but you can still swim with them on because they have passed the water Resistance test and you we will be mostly on the surface of the swimming pool the diver style watch I have probably wouldn't pass most of the official tests as it is a £20 casino and the only people who need a certified dive watch are navy seals and professional divers and recreational divers but for most people a Diver style is fine if they are into that sort of look
@Mark-sd7fc
@Mark-sd7fc Ай бұрын
I own 15 or so dive watches, or as I call them, vacation walk on the beach jump in the swimming pool watches
@M3LTUP
@M3LTUP Ай бұрын
The Orient Ray ii is 200m. It is not certified ISO but it is only $150. So you take your chance.
@jamesjohnson7905
@jamesjohnson7905 Ай бұрын
My iso certified helm miyako serves me well
@simonthomas5113
@simonthomas5113 Ай бұрын
I'm not sure if every single certified watch is tested like this, or whether they just test a single example from the watch's model.
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