Collisions: The Origins of the War in Ukraine and the New Global Instability

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WoodrowWilsonCenter

WoodrowWilsonCenter

23 күн бұрын

Kennan Institute Advisory Council Chair Michael Kimmage will discuss his new book on the war in Ukraine, Collisions: The Origins of the War in Ukraine and the New Global Instability. The book chronicles the long march to the 2022 full-scale invasion, starting in 2008 and covering developments in Ukraine, Europe, Russia and the United States. Kimmage will explore the origins of this war and will place this momentous and terrible event in historical context.

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@donaldflett1504
@donaldflett1504 15 күн бұрын
I am a 76 year old American and a life long Democrat. At minute 14:25 the Budapest Memorandum was mentioned but just in passing and I just don't understand why more emphasis is not put on this. Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons in exchange for a security pledge from the US. Ukraine had the third or fourth largest nuclear arsenal in the world at the time; in my opinion, this was a REALLY big deal. Let's just think about that for a minute. It is like China voluntarily giving up nuclear weapons today and not attacking any of its neighbors for a minimum of 30 years. This kind of act makes the world SIGNIFICANTLY safer. In my opinion, when Russia invaded Crimea and the Donbas in 2014, the US had a sacred duty to come immediately to Ukraine's aid militarily and otherwise to push the Russians out. Obama, Trump, Biden and the American people have not honored that sacred military and diplomatic pledge. We Americans are morally required to go all in now in Ukraine, including especially soldiers as well as the needed equipment, supplies, etc. to push Russia out, provide a buffer or demilitarized zone and rebuild Ukraine
@jameskellogg83
@jameskellogg83 14 күн бұрын
You are correct.
@mikes989
@mikes989 14 күн бұрын
Nowhere in the "memorandum", that was only that, an "intention letter", says anithing about assurances of any kind. And the most interest in get those weapons out off tber were usa and uk, so those nuke wont had end somewhwre they didnt like, cause they knew the uncontrolled times ahead of the country and the incoming corrupti9n level. Also, those weapons were under control of the russian SR , they have yhe control, codes, etc. The same was what happened to the Tu22M bombers that remained in the country
@lt.hurwitz270
@lt.hurwitz270 14 күн бұрын
I’m a lifelong Dem as well and I agree with you.
@chip2373
@chip2373 13 күн бұрын
Interesting comment. Putin actually announced his intentions in 2003. Add George W. to your list of presidents that screwed up. The presidents you mentioned have been some of the worst in our nation's history. It appears 2024, unless there is a miracle, will be another step down in American competence and leadership regardless of who wins. One thing we have to take into context is that the growing democracy and less corrupt government we see today in Kiev, was not true many years ago. Our MO of pouring cash into corrupt governments such as Cuba, Vietnam, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, the PLO, does not have a good track record. Also, was not Russia a guarantor of Ukraine's security? There is plenty of blame for the situation in Ukraine. Perhaps had we not spent so much time, blood, and treasure in failed efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq, we might have been better positioned mentally and financially to insert ourselves into Ukraine. You can probably rightfully so lay the current Ukraine debacle at the feet of of George W. Bush, his brilliant secretary of defense Donald Rumsfeld, and heartless VP Dick Cheney.
@sparkyfromel
@sparkyfromel 13 күн бұрын
You misconstrue what an international treaty is , the wording and subject are not what matter signing an agreement demonstrate a positive attitude with the others signatories if one of the signatories feel such positive attitude doesn't apply anymore the treaty is discarded as a sad memory of what could have been this a well established practice of all countries including the US government P.S..... the guy is good , lot of deep understanding
@atlanticist4763
@atlanticist4763 12 күн бұрын
The host is an absolute fool. His smirk as he finished his question regarding Russian delusion about defeating Ukraine was a particularly ironic moment. Very funny when Kimmage basically answered, "what delusion ? Putin is winning."
@michaelreed5684
@michaelreed5684 15 күн бұрын
If you start off with the premise that Ukraine is winning the whole discussion is pointless. Ukraine has lost 20% of its territory but Winning ! If any country that loses that much land they are my friend by definition not winning
@deriznohappehquite
@deriznohappehquite 13 күн бұрын
Russian bot presence is strong in these comments.
@Elizabeth-pg1rq
@Elizabeth-pg1rq Күн бұрын
Maybe you could mention guarantees USA and many other countries gave to Ukraine in exchange for nuclear weapons? It's not important??
@terrymoore861
@terrymoore861 13 күн бұрын
For the real reason search and watch 'US senator says Ukraine is 'gold mine' with $12 trillion of minerals West 'can't afford to lose'
@vonries
@vonries 15 күн бұрын
For me it's all about the children. Never forget all of the Russians who abused children and their families in Ukraine. From the mass graves (in Izium) to the stolen children. Now if Ukrainian parents don't become Russian citizens and go to flight against their brothers and cousins Russia will take their newborn children at birth. Speaking of Izium. What did those 414 people see? The Russians thought it was better to murder them and bury them all in a mass grave instead of letting them testify. Whatever they saw must have been truly horrific. At minimum I'm guessing rape and torture. If Russia want's to sign😅 a treaty they must first prove they will stand by one. If Russia wants to negotiate, start with your original written agreement. Pull back all of their troops back behind their original boarder and then you can start negotiations. If they don't show they will honor the original agreement how can you expect them to honor any further agreements. It's our war to lose. Russia can NOT win. Unless we choose to not support Ukraine of course. It is on us in the global West to pick the world we want to live in. Choose wisely. Thanks. Glory to Ukraine. God Bless Ukraine and her people. 🇺🇦🇺🇸
@mikes989
@mikes989 14 күн бұрын
Izium were civilian killed in the crossfire. You think the russian had made a video report for the TV about the cementery, marked the graves with names and crosses if not? As well as in the north of kiev. Wonder why most dead were by artillery, included flechette amunittion, while the russian were there? were they firing themselves?
@MrArfelio
@MrArfelio 12 күн бұрын
@@mikes989 ти піздиш русский дружок
@wolfbirk8295
@wolfbirk8295 12 күн бұрын
I think its nonsense ...,?
@pe.be.6975
@pe.be.6975 12 күн бұрын
Imo there is a 4th axis which is the US dollar.
@artelagro
@artelagro 10 күн бұрын
I expected this 'conversation' to be a wee bittie biased. Sorry, no book sale here.
@martinalladin8981
@martinalladin8981 8 күн бұрын
With respect sir your timeline is a little off the two states that entered NATO accession the entire process happened under the Biden Administration Trump was gone in 2020 they began accession talks in 2022 36:50 36:50
@atlanticist4763
@atlanticist4763 12 күн бұрын
"They don't seem to interconnect all that much". LOL - here's an academic who has as much interest in Hunter Biden and his bizarre role on the Board of Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company as the average Washington Post journalist.
@dimitrimorakhovski5287
@dimitrimorakhovski5287 19 күн бұрын
It's a rare occasion when questions are better than answers. Writing a book dismissing the role of NATO enlargement in this conflict is not a question of a particular view. It's just one of major reasons why the war started. The possibility of reparations is ridiculous as well. It means russian capitulation. It's just not going to happen. There many small misunderstandings as well.
@andyreznick
@andyreznick 13 күн бұрын
Respectfully disagree. Russia never had any intention of living up to the Budapest or Minsk agreements without control over the Ukrainian government. NATO enlargement is a convenient scapegoat for the ambitions of an empire to dominate its neighbors. Russia basically just throws excuses for imperial expansion against the wall until it finds one that sticks. It is changing international borders through military force, breaking the UN Charter, which is the issue they work hard to get us to forget.
@jpiccone1
@jpiccone1 5 күн бұрын
No it's not. It's a justification, but not a reason. NATO hasn't meaningfully expanses in 20 years. The war is entirely because Putin failed to install puppet regime in 2014. It's ridiculous to blame the invasion of a country on the expansion of a defensive alliance that had already roundly rejected Ukraine as a member.
@atlanticist4763
@atlanticist4763 12 күн бұрын
If you think this is a senseless war to Russia, I now know you are a terrible historian and you have therefore written a terrible book.
@jpiccone1
@jpiccone1 5 күн бұрын
Why is every phrase uttered by the host a question? It's intensely annoying.
@philnewton3096
@philnewton3096 5 күн бұрын
Rusify ?.USify ?.delusify.?😅
@user-ln9yc8sd7x
@user-ln9yc8sd7x 18 күн бұрын
Did you forget those infamous 14 points? Or see them as obsolete? Then why do the current US admin is so nasty in following that suit? Isn't it the time to grasp those real and still important origins of back then and now and present?
@laurie9557
@laurie9557 11 күн бұрын
Please avoid the passive voice. Obama chose not to honor the Budapest Memorandem. (I now regret having voted for him.)
@joshuapaul2022
@joshuapaul2022 19 күн бұрын
At this point unconditional surrender is the only practical solution for Ukraine. Hitler's Germany also refused to admit defeat until Hitler killed himself, then Keitel signed unconditional surrender.
@user-ln9yc8sd7x
@user-ln9yc8sd7x 18 күн бұрын
that's correct, huilo (also known as putin) is still alive ((
@mikes989
@mikes989 14 күн бұрын
The safe conduit transmited by the former Israeli Prime Minister to Zele back in 2022 expired some weeks ago...
@user-ln9yc8sd7x
@user-ln9yc8sd7x 13 күн бұрын
@@InvictusVirtus333 they just suck...all the three day...oh wait there are actually years...)))
@user-ln9yc8sd7x
@user-ln9yc8sd7x 13 күн бұрын
@@InvictusVirtus333 write more it's right as it goes))
@momchilyordanov8190
@momchilyordanov8190 19 күн бұрын
They talk a lot about 'starting point'. I believe it is not a point. It is a condition of the mind. The problem is, that the Russian society as a whole has that backward and toxic notion - on one hand they are not some regular people, but a special nation, different from any other, that must live in a great country, because this is their destiny. And on the other hand, that the greatness of your country is achieved by dominating and subduing by force your neighbor or perceived adversary. When this is the world view of significant percentage of the population, it's only a matter of time for a Putin type to appear. Especially having in mind, that many Russian people still believe, that concentrating power in the hands of an all-dominant powerful figure is a viable way to govern a country.
@richiesd1
@richiesd1 19 күн бұрын
All countries have hegemonic ambitions and the desire for their sphere of influence, if they have the ability to so so.
@niklasnorberg5071
@niklasnorberg5071 19 күн бұрын
Sounds more like you are discribing USA, wasn't it them who desided that the whole Western hemisphare was their zone of interest.😂😂 And since then they moved on to the entire world.
@himiehonor1196
@himiehonor1196 17 күн бұрын
Following your logic means Russia is trying to become the USA. Exceptional and special status in the world, if you disagree, buy yourself a mirror 👍🏽
@Sunday314
@Sunday314 17 күн бұрын
@@niklasnorberg5071 👍I completely agree!
@mikes989
@mikes989 14 күн бұрын
Im sorry, but you just made a photography of USA
@belconnen1
@belconnen1 3 күн бұрын
What a nonsense
@kalipotmeng
@kalipotmeng 4 күн бұрын
This discussion has no fact, is plainly a Putin bashing session . No value. LoL
@richiesd1
@richiesd1 20 күн бұрын
Boring western biased POV. John Mearsheimer’s analysis is much more direct and truthful.
@DwynAgGaire
@DwynAgGaire 20 күн бұрын
I disagree and am less inclined these days to jump on any attractive looking bandwagon. Everyones narrative is going to be different. The trick to a more productive future is having leaders that are willing to sit down and come to terms on a shared reality given these differences. Watch a lot of this type of think tank/security forum/policy making content and you start to see that these are all by and large good people trying to chart a course through uncertainty. The good ones are open to discourse and are less fanatical with respect to ideology.
@richiesd1
@richiesd1 20 күн бұрын
@@DwynAgGaire good people causing wars is tragic. It would have been better to negotiate with Russia prior to the start of the war. The West was convinced that we could quickly beat Russia and once and for all, knock Russia off the ranks of the great powers. Tragic.
@richiesd1
@richiesd1 20 күн бұрын
⁠@@DwynAgGaire. Tragic good intentions. The west thought we could, once and for all, beat Russia and knock them out of the ranks of the great powers. So now, we have the tragic situation in Ukraine. The smart people at the think thanks could not design an alternative?
@DwynAgGaire
@DwynAgGaire 20 күн бұрын
@@richiesd1 It appears that the US executive has been lead by the nose by a sect of the policy making intelligentsia aka the neocons, who have a very limited view of reality.
@eugene_dudnyk
@eugene_dudnyk 20 күн бұрын
Mearsheimer sells you putin’s blackmailing, it can hardly be called “analysis”.
@gerryboric6777
@gerryboric6777 16 күн бұрын
Yankee Doodle always loses
@Kavala76
@Kavala76 12 күн бұрын
I managed 9 minutes before I gave up. Disappointingly unenlightening and a total waste of time.
@alexanderthegreat7916yy
@alexanderthegreat7916yy 9 күн бұрын
Bunch of crap
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